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1909. Motion Pictures - Censorship (D-09-35) 

This folder contains correspondence and other documents relating to the 
activities of the Board of Censorship of Programs of Motion Picture Shows and 
its successor, the National Board of Censorship of Motion Pictures. Established 
in 1909 in response to a resolution passed by the Association of Motion Picture 
Exhibitors of New York, the Board of Censorship issued rulings that were 
considered mandatory for all Association members. The National Board was 
established later that year under the auspices of a civic organization known as 
the People's Institute. Included are letters concerning the organization of 
censorship activities, deteriorating relations between the National Board and 
the motion picture manufacturers, and efforts to promote the use of motion 
pictures in the public schools. There are also numerous reports to the Motion 
Picture Patents Co. that "pass," "condemn," or require modifications in 
individual films. A sample of these reports has been selected. Among the 
correspondents are John Collier, secretary of the Board of Censorship; Walter 
Storey, censorship secretary of the National Board; Charles Sprague Smith, 
managing director of the People's Institute; Frank L. Dyer, president of the 
Motion Picture Patent Co. and vice president of the Edison Manufacturing Co.: 
George F. Scull, secretary of the Motion Picture Patent Co. and assistant to the 
vice president of the Edison Manufacturing Co.; Carl H. Wilson, general 
manager of the Edison Manufacturing Co.; and Horace G. Plimpton, manager 
of negative production in the Kinetograph Department. 

Approximately 50 percent of the documents have been selected. The 
items not selected consist primarily of additional reports by the censorship 
boards and related correspondence. 

The Board of Censorship 

Temporary Offices: 318 East 15th Street ; 

ph ods NEW YORK CITY, N, Y, | G 4 

Phone 2411 Stuyvesant 

Rev. Geo, William Knox, Chairman John Collier, Chairman 
The Public Education Association, Mrs, Joseph M, Price The Ethical-Social League, Rev. George William Knox Albert Shields Mn, Josephine Redding 
The Public Schools, Gustave Straubemiller and The Society forthe Prevention of Crime, Thos. L, McClintock ge tae are ae 
Miss Evangeline C, Whitney The Neighborhood Worker's Association, Joseph F. Driscoll 
The People’s Institute, Charles Sprague Smith Howard M. Bradstreet Dr. OL Lamburger 7 
Tho Federation of Churches, Rev. Walter Laidlaw The League for Political Education, Robert E. Ely Representing the Awsociation of Motion 
The Woman's Municipal 4 Miss M. Serena Townsend Members at Large: Mr, Josephine Redding, John Collier Picture Exhibitors of New York State 
N. Joseph Slicklen, Secretary N. Joseph Slicklen, wl 

March 15th, 1909, 

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You are doubtless familiar through published accounts 

-RE “2 -D. 
MAR }8 1909 


Gentlemen: - 

with the fact that a Board of Censorship has been established, 
This letterhead gives the composition of that Board, What 
authority, if any, the Board of Censorship has; how it will 
operate; and how it will benefit the moving picture business; 
ean be told in a few words, 

The Board of Censorship was created by civic bodies 
in response to a resolution passed by the Association of Motion 
Picture Exhibitors of New York, There is a Governing Board 
officially representing these civic bodies and the public 
schools, and a Committee on Censorship appointed by the Governing 
Board, ALL members of both Committees serve without pay, 
but the salary of the Secretary, the rent of offices, etc., is 
paid by the Association of Motion Picture Exhibitors, 

The Association of Exhibitors has passed a by-law 
making the verdict of the Censorship Committee mandatory on all 
members of that Association, Failure to abide by the censor~ 
ship will entail expulsion from the Association Exhibitors, 

But the censorship does not rest on the shoulders of the 

Exhibitors' Association, but on the shoulders of public opinion, 
It is the absolute purpose of the Censorship Board to eliminate 
obscene pictures and pictures of crime—for~crime's sake from 
the New York moving picture shows, and to get this result it 
will use all the force of public opinion, of law, and of City 
Authority. But we feel entire confidence that manufacturers 
and renters, as well as all exhibitors, will make the cause 

of the Censorship their own, because unless the business gained 
public standing it will suffer a ruinous collapse in the near 

It goes without saying that the censorship will be 
liberal, and it is a fact that the proportion of pictures which 
are objectionable is small, But it is the occasional offensive 
picture which falls into the hands of the police, arouses the 
protest of vigilance societies, is advertised in the news- 
Papers, and brings the whole moving picture business in dis- 
repute, This picture must be caught up before it is shown on 
the public screen, The way to get this result is to inspect 
the pictures before they leave the hands of the manufacturers, 
(014 pictures which are on the shelves of the renters will, 
of mwurse, be inspected at the renters') The Censorship Board 
will deal not only with motion pictures but with illustrated 
songs and the vaudeville interludes seen in many shows, It 
will further operate to improve the pbuilding conditions, 
sanitary conditions, etc,, of the shows, and will make known 
to the whole public and to the ‘lawmakers that real improvement. 
‘is in progress, The Censorship Board will entirely disregard 
any and all business rivalries that may exist in the moving 
picture field, It hereby invites all manufacturers to co- 
operate and to share the benefits of the censorship, A 

White List of manufacturers, renters, and exhibitors will be 


advertised widely, and any firm on the White List will be free 
to capitalize that fact, No black list will be published as 
this is illegal, But the standards adopted by the Censorship 
Board in consultation with manufacturers, renters, and ex~ 
hibitors will be enforced in an aggressive manner throughout 
New York, 

It is expected that arrangements will be completed 
by the end of the week of March 14th, Before that time, a 
representive of the Censorship Board will visit personally 

each manufacturer, 

Very truly “yours, 
Bex a bExtdiey 

Chairman, Executive Committee 
On Censorship, 

It is perhaps unnecessaryto state the advantages ,both 

general and direct,that will result from the censorship, The 
first advantage will be to lift the moving, picture business in 
the estimation of the general public;this will mean an invreased 
patronage to moving picture shows,in every neighborhood, In the 
Same way the censorship will put an end to the hue and cry 
against moving pictures in New York,will substitute 
PSnOr AM RNS TMG regulation for wholesale persecution,will 
operate to secure reasonable laws in place of the unreasonable 
laws which now operate to choke the husiness, 

the individual manifacturer,renter and showman does not 
need to be shown how he can mnke use of the fact that his 
output is approved by the Beard of Gensorship. Lnere is 
a positive side to the work now being sundertaken; this lies in 
the fact that the time is at hand for introducing moving pice 
ture apparatus into the public schools,ane¢ the Board of 
Censorship will interest itself in bringing tnis about, There 
could ne no corresponding disadvantages unless the censorship 

were narrow and unreasonable ,and such a censorship would not 
last for n month, 




Mr. @Qyer: 
I have received from Mr, Plimpton six copies of report 

of Board of Gensors, for pictures shown March 30th, original of 

which I requested the Motion Picture Patents 6a to forward to 

Mr. Plimpton. Kindly advise me as to the different people to whom 

you think these copies should te given. I attach one copy for 

your information. I think perhaps other copies should be given 

to Messrs. Scull, Weber, McChesney and Farrell, they being the 

ones who usually see and criticise the new subjects received from 

our Negative Production Dept. 

4/6/09, C.H 
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\ \ A 1M \ »% March 30, .1909, 

4 : é as ee exces 

His, Daight UeDenald, Oy” e 

The Motion Pieture Patent QGe, S 
City, —_— 

Dear Mr, iUcdDonalds 


Following is our report on tha pictures seen tosdays 

The following pictures werd aporoved outright: 

fhe Life Nruam of Napoleone Hmvress Tosuphine, 
Napolescn, The Man of Destiny, 

A Aude Hostess, 

Sohncdaer's Anti-Neoiss Crusade, 

Phe Road to the Meant, 

Trying $0 get Arrested, 

“2. sap to the Wenderliand of Amorics, 
Any Port in a Storm, 

The FPatherts Mirat Malf-<Holiduyy 
Unaporactuted Gentlus, 

A Gup of Tom mid She, 

She Master of Siaele Hock, 
Peretantls Loni, 

The Loot htuLodsy, 

Yersangetorais, (Tho Geults Hera), 
The Schoolboyta 

The Kis of Judas, 

Nescoy Gud in Snow, 

A Oontemptibia Thert, 

Clareneky and His Cizerette, 

Ponto Rung Awiay With the Milk Gus, 

fhe following picturves the comuittue objects to in whole 

Theadere Yeurna To Be A Yough, Pathe, This picture 


or in purt: 

iso condemned 

in tote, It is orime all the way theeugh, and such humor as there is 

grows simply cut of the crine, 

The Orange Growers, This picture is somewhat debatable as a 

wyole, but wa do not object as a whele but secommand two 






@. Mac Donald, 

Th the introduction of the picture whee tho Villain ine 
sulés the gizl, Cut out the actual Physics. struggle betasesn 
them, it io too grouply suggentiva, This means sacrificing abouts 
Vive feet of fikm, 

That past of the pieture beginning at the monent the gird 
is deagged up to the house and released, Sho is then approached 
by tho villain ond repilasa hin; whervupen he orders hex denegod 
up the stirs inte the room at the sucond story, and follows 
oa Gloaing the door and ututioning a sentined outside, The 
Sugeent duneethu dumcnetrationes at faDG seems here to bu obe 
deetionable and MARGE ssa, Pliminate thin stein of filmes 
&beut 40 Leateeund the picture yung Hight ehead., Later the gard 
de aeen amexge L'rem the upsteden room, during the excitement cP 
whe attenptud reucus, ous the HUdienca may assume that sha waa 

( Merely imprisoned thuru, Slaninating as we BuggEat, you xrerudar 
the picture compaya tively innocucus, only comparatively, hove 
ever, the imotiveepovar of the f4lm ip criminal pansion, and the 
vouch handling of the whith girl by nugrogs wil. be otvensivea ta 
some, But wo do not protest agadnat the film as a Whole, rox 

cognizing that inptevemant mint be gradual, I shouid gay that 
ws Will be pxrogransively in favor of getting away £rom thig 
Kind of anbjeat handlad in this manner, 

Very truly yours, 

_ April 23rd, 19 09 .. 
3 } Pl 

Motion Picture Patents Company, 
80 Fifth Ave. 
New York City,’ 



Four Pathe pictures: ware to~day submitted to the Censorship 
Committee for re-consideration:. "Cartouch, "Bruised Meart," "Child ts 
Love," and "Derniere Conquete," 

All of these pictures except the last are colored pictures, 
and we were informed that copies, printed in France, had been ordered 
priox to our censoring these pictures, and that to cut them out com- 
pletely would cause considerable loss, 


We reconsidered the pictures, with the following results: 

"Cartouche" was passed favorably in the form seen to-day. 

This was not because the Committee had changed its opinion since first 

seeing the picture; but the cutting had been judiciously done and had 
obviously rendered the picture much less objectionable, while on the 
artistic side it had always been admitted to be admirable , Yet the 
Board of Censorship Committee runs the risk of criticism that it will 
be hard to answer in approving this picture, and this is true of some 
of those mentioned below , 

"A Child's Love" This picture has already been cut to the 
extent of a fow feet, and this meets the requirements of the committee 
in case in addition the picture be cut for two or three feet more,‘ at 
the scene of the stage: in such manner as to make the scene briefer, 
Cut at the point where the dancer turns her back to the audience and 
then again faces the audience and hints at a display of legs . 

"Bruised Heart" The Gomnittee had previously suggested the ~ 

elimination. of the scene of the attempted suicide, The picture wags 

resubmitted because the Manufacturers felt that the suicide scene was 
not of a sort dangerously suggestive, and because the entire bic ture 

had not been condemned, yet to cut out this seene was virtually to 
destroy the entire picture , 

The Committee very hesitatingly gives its assent to this 
picture , It deals withefidelity and with suicide, together, and 
both are themes severely ‘etiticisod by those very sections of the 
public which the motion picture interests are trying to win over to 
a favorable attitude, If the Committee is called to account fox pass= 
ing this picture favorably it will hardly be able to defend itself 
convincingly , 

Yet, as argued the theme is rather unreal and the cruder 
moral. requirements are met by it. ‘“Nfhese considerations would not 
alone convince the committee, but as the film is a film d ‘art, andas 
copies are already ordered, tne committee passes it favorably . In 
the future it 41s likely that this subject, treated in this way, will 

be condemned , 


"Derniere Conqguete," This pictwre had not been previously 
bassed on by the Committee ag a whole, The Comnitése will pass it 
favorably if the following changes are made , 

Cut out the scene at the telephone (where the woman makes an 
assignation with the burglar , This applies both to the woman at the 
telephone and the burghar at the other end . 

Cut out the scene where the woman waves to the lover with 
the lamp and cut out that portion of the scene in the woman 's parlor 
where she occupies a place on the burglar ‘s lap, None of these 
. Scenes, save the last are vulgar in themselves, but the theme is one 
of assignation and the object of the Committoe is to BXXMXHREEX minimize 
this element and to allow the sonethat humorous (and harmless ) scene of 
burglary which follows (! !) 

Yours yery truly, 
John Collier, 

Secretary, Foard of Censorship. 





Biograph: Mr . -Marvin wae Driscoll. 
Vy, Hamer. i ; 
Mrs Redding. 

Mr . Collier. 
Mw, Shiels. 
Mr, O'Shea. 
O7 FILY SHOW! APRIL 25rd, 19 09. 

The following pictw'es were passed favorably: 

Biograph: : 
One Busy Hour,’ 
A Baby's Shoe, 

Edison: : 

Tuss and Feathers, ‘ 
The Doctored Dinner Pail, 
Pony Express: . ' 

A Somnambulistic Hero, 

Lubin: . 
Inventions of an Idiot, 
Why the Hail Was Tate. 

Chinatown Slavery: 
Adventures of a Keg. 
Pad Lands . ‘ 
Nephisto and the Maiden. 

Th Low, L ~es wer ed: 
e following pictures were condemed t.., 

A number of Pathe pictures wero submitted for co-consideration, 
Report on these pictures is given on accompanying page . 

The Fdiosn picture "Iunatics in Power " was not decidd 
on, though twice witnessed. The Committee would like to see this pic& 
ure on Monday . 


Lv pedeats os fe fein ee 


eine, ‘ hy willis. Hy, Collier. 

u P, P, ais ir, Slicklen, irs. Redding . 

Ny . O'Shea. 

OW FILM srow! APRIL 2Vth, 19 09 , 
The Motion Picture Patents Company, 

Vew York City. 


The following pictures were approved in toto: 

Tubin: : 
Pugzle Mad, : 
The House of ‘Terror, 
The Falling Arrow. 
Boys Will be Boys. 

Good for Byil, 

Essanay: : 
A Mexican's Gratitude, 

Vitagraph: : 
For Her Country's Sake . 
The Infernal Machine,’ 
The Yalse Accusation, 
Dime Novel Dan . 

The following pictures were condemndd in toto or passed in 
an altered form, . 

Edison. : 

Lunatics in Power, this picture impréssed the Commit- 
tee as in rather bad taste throughout, dealing as it does with the 

most tragic of infirmities, But it is fercical and the plot is humor~ 
ous, and the Committee approves the picture except for one scene, Tihs 
is the scene, "The Lunatics at Breakfast." This is the only scene tht 
that is realistic , It has no relation to the plot and cannot be defen- 

ded as mere farce comedy, There is a difference between ridiculing the 
insane (as in the breakfast scene) and putting the same into a ridicu- 
pous position by means of the insane (as in the rest of the picturs.) 

Two Pathe pictures were re-submitted, having been cut: 
The Gambler's Honor, - This pictiw’e was condemned MHaEH- 
MUXNHE in toto at the first inspection. It represents a gambler and a 
vulgar wife who takes revenge by drinking herself into utter drunkedness 
in a public cafe. The pictuxe has been cut from that moment where the 
wife, seated at the table next her husband 's in a cafe, has four or five 


absinthes put before her; that is, the process of getting drunk is not 
Bhown ,. The picture remains pointless and without any good qualities, 
but the worst has been eliminated, and the Committee is informed by 
Pathe YTreres that some loss would bo caused by the total condemnation 
of the picture, the Committee is mwitl for it to pass through. 

Nobody Wants the Basket , 
This pi::eture was vreviously condenned in toto, and is again. 
gegnaennged in toto, It is a thing of evil odor, moral as well as physi~ 
cal, throughout, and the American audiences ought to be saved from it, 
Not only the vulgar treatments of the avil-smelling incident of the 
basket, but the obvious character of the voman (a prostitute ) and of 
the man ( a rake) renders the oicture unfit for the American public. 

Yours very truly, 
John Collier , 


Secretary, The Board of Censorship , 



ee April 30th, 1909. 

The Motion Picture Patents Company, 

Gentleman ‘ 
Following is report on pictwres seen at your office to-day: 
Passed with approval: 

Vitagraph: : ( ; ) 
yaking, et seq. (Tobacco Dream 

Tete eals. ; : 

“Solomon's Judgment. : 

Jephita's Daughter, Note:-It is asked that this film be 
held in suspense for a day pending further formal notice and its treat= 
nent is unimpeachable, but discussion was raised as to the Biblical ac~ 
curacy of the story as here presented, It seems that this is a deli-~ 

cate point with the Oxthodot Jews. (The question involves the finol of 
the picture=the sacrifice . 

Edison: : 
The Child's Prayer. 

The Curfew Bell, 

The Sandman : 

‘Sieze A Pin(He sees a Pin} 

The Old Hall Clock. 
Biograph: ; 
Elopement of Auntie. 
The Jilt. -: : 


Kleine: (Urban-Eclipse.) - 
The Peddlar's Reward, 

Pathe: : 

Pierrot Fuddler, 

‘Petits Pifferoirs, (Little Street Singers ) 

Kalem: ‘ 

Te Girl Spy. 


Tt is asked that the following picture be re-submitted to the Committee 

on Monday, May 3, : 
The Edison picture, "Lunatics in Power" was witnessed again. 
The picture had been cut at the wrong place, and the part struck out was 
perfectly acceptable to the Conmittee, whihe the breakfast scene of the 
insane, to which the Committee had raised objections, had been left in. 
The Committee discussed this picture at length, as it raised 
certain test questions , It was finally agreed that the attempt to ap= 
prove the picture ag a whole after the single scene above alluded to had 
been struck out, was not reasonable; the breakfast scene of the lunatica 
was little if any worse or in worse taste than the rest of the picture .°: 
Either the pictwre should be condemned as a whole or accepted as a whole 
Being in doubt as to the principles involved in this question, 
the Committee decided to pass the entire picture, in its original form, 
favorably, They ask, however, that at the forthcoming meeting of the 
Governing Board, the picture be shown in order that it may be discussed 

and the Censorship Committee be instructed as to what methods of crit- 
icism to apply in the future to similar pictures , 

Shest #2 THE BOARD OF CENSORSHIP REPORT, April 30th, '09 

g Therefore: The picture is approved; but the Committee does 
not vegard itself ag thereby establishing a presedent, or wish so to be 

Further note:- ; 
The Committee desires to congratulate the several manu 

facturers on the excellent average of the pictwrea submitted to-day . 
Special oomnent along this line ought to be passed as to the pictures of: 
each of the Manufacturers seen ; Esnecially HXtLGSanTEK notable, as 

it seemed, was the "Ressurection " of the Biograph Company, the 

Biblical pictures (treated in an adaquate and dignified manner ) of tive 
Vitagraph Company, the "Old Jfall Glock # of TJatbin, Hdigon 's 

"Child 's Prayer," and others , 

We vould informally suggest the "Forgotten "of Kleine be 

given if possibbb the sub-title of "Enoch Arden, " whose story 1t tells 
in a beautiful manner , 

Yours truly, 
John Collier, 

Secretary, Board of Censorship .» 

The Board of Censorship 


96 FIFTH AVENUE, Cor. {5th Street 
Phone 3843 Chelsea 

Rev. Geo. William Knox, Chairman John Collier, Chairman 
The City Vigilance League, Mathew Battie The Public Education Association, Mrs. Joseph M, Price Mn, Josephine Redding Albert Shiels 
The Exhical-Social League, Rev. George William Knox The Public Schools, Gustave Straubenmiller and —_—__ 
The Federation of Churches, Rev. Walter Laidlaw Miss Evangeline E, Whitney Joseph’ F. Driscoll 
The League for Political Education, Robert E. Ely The Society forthe Prevention of Crime, Thos, L. McClintock Oscar I, Lamberger 
The Neighborhood Worker's Association, The Woman's Municipal League, Miss M. Serena Townsend Representing the Association of Motion 
Howard M. Bradstreet. Members at Large: Picture Exhibitors of New York State 
The People’s Institute, Charles Sprague Smith Mn, Josephine Redding, John Collier, Albert Shiels —_-———_—_ 

N, Joseph Slicklen, Secretary Thos. L. McClintock, Treasurer N, Joseph Slicklen, Secretary. 


May 6,1909, 
Mr, Frank W. Dyer, 
President ,The Motion Pictures Patents Cosy 
City. E 

Dear Mr. Dyer? 
As I mentioned to you the other day,a movement in Philadelphia 

has resulted in the quiet organization of all the public bodies in that 
City with the original object of establishing a local censorship of moving 
pictures. I went to Philadelphia some days ago and pointed out the 
defects of their plan;urged that they become an auxiliary to a national 
censorshipj;and induced them to stand still and await develonments, 

Today I have received formal notification from the Phtladelphia 
committee that they approve the plan as I outlined it, The Chairman of 
the committee has asked me for a full statement of the reasons why only 
a national censorship can get results and why the business interests will 
cooperate with a national censorship, 

I entlose my reply to this request (copy.) This is confiden= 
tial for the present, The letter is somewhat lengthy but I should 
appreciate your reading it carefully because the matter ig of first im-~ 
poetmion, | 

If the way seems clear we ought to go ahead at ohte. 

Very truly yoursy 


foe Coes, ayen 

[Ara S Hs 
mel Conse akg 

May 6,T909, 

“y, Ro-vert =, Adams, 

the ae) Branch eines: 

Pear Mr, Adeanss 

Your lettor came this morning;I om glad that the loric ov the 
sljuction strijes you in Philadelphia os it strikes as in Now York, 

Si ce I saw you on seburde ȴY last, there nave been sienivicent 
developments in the direction of a national censorship of pictures, ‘The 
Inter ational Projecting and Producliwy; Compony,ho are the most important 
factor in the "Independent" cause,have expressed their thoroughreoing 
interest in the plon,their désire to submit all thoir output for the ene 

tire country,and their willingne:s to contribute to the iinaacial 
support of a national movement. No contributions can however be accept- 
ed from any manufacturer until all asrse to contributo,and to contribute 
in an unconditional mamor;vor the censorship must be kept wholly tree 
from obligations, 

To one Looking at the situation Tor the first time,it may 
seom strange that the "trade" has so cordially submitted to cens sorship, 
A word of oxplanation may be of volue,. 

The moving picture is a deliberate and serious form of the 
theatre and is capable of becoming popular with oll classes, rich. end peor, 
To r aline its Muli commorcial possibilitics,it mst occupy a responsible 


2 Mr, Adams, 
position tow rd the publioasmust be senbltive to whatever is most vnivere 

gal end pormanent in public taste, ifillions are ‘elne invested in the 
business,and being no longer a get-rich-auick proposition but a pusiness 
Which must secure its position for future years,the moving picture trade 
has awake:ed to tho vorce of public opinion, 

The conditio:;: are rather peculiar, Sundsnentally,it must 
be remembered tht moving pictures are produced in a wholesale manner, 
no% only vor all America but for the vhole world, they are produced 
sere and dn varioun foreign countries,so tht of necessity the producer 
, io far-romoved from his public, Yet in a common-sensed way ,he 
desires to be as closely in touch with his public as he eanjand this 
peculiarly in view of the sierce comctition thet re in the 
moving picture ficld} competition between producing m -ufacturmag 

8ut the moving picture output has been sensational in the 
past;probably not more sensational than th: regular theatre,but the sen= 
Sationvulism has heen more abrupt and evident and the public is rosigned 
to the regular theatre, Therefore public opinion has taken on 
an antagonistic bias,in part justified, toward moving pictures, The 

dingy local conditions under which theo pictures have been generally 

shows has contributed to this prejudice, - In addition a 
peculiar fact must be taken into accout: ‘tho regular theatres, 

controlling advertising and therefore publiclty,have come to Look on 
tee movine picture show as their cremy,oecause its competition has 

hurt them seriously, The same is sald to be true is a measure with 
the saloon interests, Albogether,the justifiable public prajudice, 
Plus special and secret interests vhich are inimical to the moving : 
picture,hase resulted in a loss of great sums to the bgginess, and 

in restrictive laws and in graft of all kinds, How is all this to ba 
_ overcome? . t 

First and last, be a censorship, And if the trade does not 


Se Mr, Adams, 
jend a hand,censordhip will come anyhow, for the public ig determined to 

regulate the showsj;and the latter tind of censorship will be destructive 
rather then constructive and will vary in its standards with each locale 
ity, and will become an endless nuisance to the manufacturers of pdobhugs, 
Tucidentally,it will not suxtico to protect the public, for 
tyvo reasons: the supply of pictures is national, they nass from pluce 
to place, they orrive today and are exhibited in. twenty theatres tomorrow, 
“ven ccaseless vigilanee h a local censorship »oard will not suntice 
to keep the crude or evil picture out, And the kind of haphasara 
censprship which is alone possible locallyywill <all to exert the 
reaction on the output o# pictures--the stinulus toward better and better 
pictures--shich is after alll the most veluable part ov a successful cone 
sorship.s , 
Now compare this with the ow York ecnsorship,not. merely as 
planned but as already operating, This Board works in close touch 
with the Anerican namfacturers ane the agents of the Furopean 
concer.:3, It 1s wholly indope dent of commercial dnfluence, yet 
maintedins cordial relations with tha controlling interests of tne 
picture business, As a result,the things that are once pointed out 
as objectionable do not renopearj;and the temptd ton which is ever-nrosent 
with the producer of moving pictures,to fall back on sensationalism for 
his e'fects,is counteracted. In seven weeks,the time for which the 
New York censorship has been oporating,there has been an improvement in 
tone and a heightening of artistic qualities in American-made pictures 
which is the subject of comment everywhere, 
To sum up: this 1s the present situation: The Motion 
Pictures Pat ents Cos,vwhich furnishes about 60 per cent of the shows in 
fémerica,is already applying nationally the verdicts of the New York 
board, The most important faction of tha Independents will Aahortiy do 


4, Mr. Adams. 
the same, Ths minor Tndependents will o@ at onee “orced in Bolf-pronervas 
tion to make the local censorship national, This is in one way a trium= 
phant resultjin another way it is merely the logicnl result of the applie 
cation of a iusine:s principle to the problem of censorship. 
Heanvhile,ythe Censorship Board has gane ahead with the 
orvonisation o f th a ghee OL Consmraiag ~hich can only be local, as it 
deals with locol conditions: the censorphin of vaudeville cto, in the 
Frograms O° Lhe shows,the re;ulation of the physical conditions of th- 
placegsyo: the general conduct of tha places, We have no spe cified 
legal rights in this cirection,but we have public opinion which is more 
errectunl;ve can put an end to virtually onything that is really object= 
lonable in any moving picture show, This power 1s enhanced by the fact 
that the censership originated from tho initiative of the local Associas 
tion of exhibitors, who still provide tha <inaneial support of the 
entire work;they are prepared to expel from membership in their 

organization anyone who resists the cens@ ship at any point, 

Therefore: It appears to us that the censorship of 
motion picture shows mut be worked out as follows: a Btional Board 

Which concerns itself solely with tational Consorship; Local boards, 
vhich are represented on the national board and which tako care of | 
conditions peculiarly local ond enforce locally the ‘indings of the 
national board, Thus there would bo in New York (the strategical 
point) the Nd ional Board and a local auxiliary of this, The local 
auxiliary will gradually and naturally take on varied functions ,end be 
come a committee for the regulation of omusemouts in general, 
Sinally,for one or two details: . Tho pr sent composition of 
the Soard of ‘ensorship avpears on this letter-head, Philadelphia, 
in organizing, would presumably choose as its representative one of the 
mombers of the Governing 5 aard of Executive Committce,and this aenber 

would ipse facto become a member of the censor thg committee which grapples 



with the actual probhim of consorship. If Philadelphia( or 

any other City) preferred ao ite representative someone not now on the 
Board of Censorship, such representative could he place? on the Board, It 
would ohnviously be better that all Tocal Board should agree on the same 
representdé ive;such a person for instance as Dr, Devine of the C.0.5e, 
Mr, Eagar Winthrope,Prosident of the soard of Héucation,Pavl  cellog, 

editor of tho "Survey," or someone already on the Covoerning Soarde 
’ C 

I believe this covers the main péahts of inquiry . I enclose 

several copies of the Folder of the Censorship Board,which may be used 

to adventage, 

Very truly yours, 

poen~ G Lhrar 

Sccretary,Board of Censorshipe 

Eolas 320 

rape ae 


spe 6 Orange, N. J., May 7, 1909, 

Mr, John Coliiér, Secretary; : 

Board of Consors fy 4 
96 Fsth-hve., New York. 
My dear Lf. Collier: ; 

I thank you for yours of the 6th inst., en- 

closing copy of your Letter to Mr, Adams, which I have read with 

a great deal of interest. 

Ide not think there can be any question but that a single 
well organized Board of Censors is far better than a great nee 
of small irresponsible Hoards acattered throughout the country. 
and subject to Local prejudices and influences. It would be 
GirflouLi to imasine the effect on the business if our films were 
to be subjected to the censorship of committees in all of the 
cities in which they are exhibited, Amore perfect scheme for 
the crippling of the industry could hardly be devised. There- 
fore, your proposition of a single National Censorship Board 
strikes me as being the only solution of the problem , admitting 
there must be a censorship, which TI think everyone having the best 
interests of the business at heart must admit. Of course, the 
greatest care must be exercised in the seleation of the Board, not 
to have it too uni;ibldy, and to have its motives and personnel abso- 
ilutely beyond the possibility of a suspicion, The people must 
have the same respect and confidence that they have for the 
courts, and when the Censorship Board appreciates its responsibil- 

ities I have no doubt ag.che, Lis .gasbireofainness. We must all 

forest 320. 

John Collier. ; (2) 5/7/09. 

know that it would be humanly impossible for the censors not to 
make mistakes, but we must always feel, as we naw feel, that they 
are honest mistakes. No doubt many manufacturers whoes films 
are criticised may think that particular decisions affe eting them 
should not have been made, yet they will finally come to accept 
them in the same spirit that they now accept adverse decisions 

of our courts, , 

Personally I wish you success along the lines you have 

thought out ., and I will be very clad whenever posslble to give 

you any assistance in my power. 

Yours very truly, 

FLD/TWY President, 









a> O, Exinonn 


10 FirtH Avenue, New Yorn. 



avoness vounncev1o “Ll Rast Alst Street 

eosaine setedauarceus AiG Pgh ee Mei Yorke May 28th, 1909. 

Mr. Frank L. Dyer, Vice~Pres. 

MAY 24 1909 


Edison Manufacturing Co., 
Orange, N. d. 
Dear Sir:- 
I enclose a letter just received.from Mr. 
Collier of The Board of Censorship, in which I 
thought you would be interested. 
Dawley was very mich chagrined when I told 
him about the sign "Keep Off The Grass." Hovever, 
I find that no prints have yet been made beyond the 
first one of this picture, and I have arranged to have 
the sign altered in the negative so that it will not 
show. It is curious that no one noticed this when we 
saw the picture in Orange. 
Yours very truly, 
Edison Manufacturing Co., 

Kinetograph Dept, 

Musil a a 
va ; vical ; if; Lr 

Manager “Negative Production. 


“ The Board of Censorship 


. 96 FIFTH AVENUE, Cor. 15th Street 
Phone 3843 Chelsea 


‘ Rey. Gea’ William Knox, Chairman hn Collier, Chai 
The City Vigilance League, Mathew Battie The Public Education Association, Mrs, Joseph M, Price Mn. eects Redding » Albeit Shiels 
The Ethical-Social League, Rev. George William Knox The Public Schools, Gustave Straubenmiiller and _— 
The Federation of Churches, Rev. Walter Laidlaw Miss Evangeline E. Whitney Joseph F. Driscoll 
The League for Political Education, Robert E, Ely The Society forthe Prevention of Crime, Thos. L. McClintock Oscar I, Lamberger 
The Neighborhood Worker's Association, The Woman's Municipal League, Miss M. Serena Townsend Representing the Association of Motion 
aie Howard M, Bradstreet Members at Large : Picture Exhibitors of New York State 
The People’s Institute, Charles Sprague Smith Mn. Josephine Redding, John Collier, Albert Shiels — 
N. Joseph Slicklen, Secretary Thos. L. McClintock, Treasurer N. Joseph Slicklen, Secretary, 
” . if . +. ‘ 
May 26,1909, EC 7 TI 
Mr, Plimpton, ; MAY 28 -3uS 

The Edison Co.,City. 
Dear Mr. Plimpton: ANS 
T must congratulate you on The zegend of stévvine Keeps" There 
isn't any doubt that this picture will be,perhaps not so sensationally 

popular as many pictures, hut more genuinely interesting than any save 

a few, It is the kind of picture which will bring the people 
But congratulations are easy. I had to laugh at one point. 

There,on the medieval lawn,with knights and ladies,minstrels and harpsy 

@ prominent "Keep Off The Grass!" sign. Coulan't this be 

elimainat ed? 
Very truly yours, 

PS. Another sugges ion which I hesitate to make ,but I believe you 
will welcome it: The conditions under which pictures are shown 

at the Patents Co. are wellenigh ideal,yet I had to get right under the 
screen to obtain a satisfactory view of the people's countenances, They 
are too small on the screen to be personalities. You'll note 
ice,with an ensemble scene of French or Italian makeythat there may be 

a crowd of people on the stageyyet a few, the central characters,are in the 
foreground and are satisfactorily visible; you can watch their facial 

RE ee Se a IOS : a ~ - : Reems 



pie hee oe of the crowd is to become the focus of attention, 


he too comes forward, 

This is true even of the regular stage; and has 

to be doubly true in picture pantomime,vhere the eye has to do the ear's 


work too, 


SO pee a 

But you have touched on the kind of vein which ought to be 

very truly yours, 4 

ns W0,70F  - . i 

“LUNATICS. IN POWER?” (C). Released by 
Edison, May 12 (one reel), 
The board of censors, it seems, has passed this | 
‘picture, the public. will surely ‘reject it. I-do-not 
want to use so strong a, word as disgusting, but | 
no other will do justice to the situation. To ridicule 
in moving pictures those unfortunates ‘who have | 
lost their reason, is nothing creditable nor will-a: 
normal-minded person ever see any fun in such pro- F 
ceedings. To exploit the misfortunes of our fellows . 
for any purpose whatever is a thing not to be 
tolerated. No exhibitor who has any regard for the | 
taste or intelligence of his audience will allow such 
a reel to be put through his machine, The photog- 
raphy for the most part is decidedly bad. 


CENTRAL U8D8 Gaumony & Unban-Ecuipsn Finnin 
7 : ’ For UNiren Staten 




Fern C2 aN Reta Ee 

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c GiGi, 
ur. FL oL. Dyer, 

_ c/o dison Mfg. Co. 
Orange, MN. J. 


JUN 4 1909 

Ly deur Mr. Dyer: 

When I was in Hew’ York recently ir. Collier 
of the Board of Censorship asked me to work up a series of 
prograus for him to be used in conection with a public 
School movement next Fall. His plan was to have our rental 
office at New York rent these films to such theatres as the 
educational interests might engege for this purpose, inviting 
school children to attend, 

Such programs should be as comprehensive as 
possible, and American manufacturers should be well repre- 
sented, I intend to make up to begin about ten programs of 
four to six reels each, making a broad application of the 
term "Educational", so as to include industrials, scenic, 

eeograrhical, ete. & 

a Would you kindly sond,me a list of such 
titles as you ean furnish which would*come under this 
nie i : heading, referring either to filws in, Stock or to available 
Gy eee negatives? 

’ Ido not sce eny material profit in this 
proposition for ourselves, as our rental would have to buy 
these fils, and would find no other use for them, but I 
believe that the plan is important, because of its tendency 
tio elevate the business, and to interest a number of people 
who may be at present indifferent or opposed to moving 

Your co-oreration will be very welcome. 

Very trfey yours 
CE /Mr. ; ae 

Vorm $19 


im = Meer” 

. June 15, 1909. 
' lir, George Kleine, 
. 52 State St., 
Chicas, TLl. 
“My dear Nr. Meine: 
Your favor of the lat inst. was duly received, 
and I give you the following List of available negatives with announces 

ments from which satisfactory prints for your purpose could be seoured: 

5739 Bnigrants Landing, Bllis Island 140' Geographical 
5565 Prize Geese, Newman's Poultry Yarm 60! Agrioultural 
5350 Ducks Bathing, Alientown Duck Varm “503 n 

6148 Blowlng Bottles 200* Industrial 
6271 Shearing Sheep, Humula Farm . 95! Acricultural 
6274 Hauling Sugar Gane, Kohola Plant, H.I. - 125¢t " 

6281 Scenes on Sugur Plantation, H. T. 570! 7 

6302 Trip Trhough Yellowstone Park,U.S.A. 736' Geographical 
6303 American Talis fr Goat Island, Niagara 55! " 

6304 Horseshoe Valls fr American Side 60h 
6306 Horseshoe Falls fr Canadian Side 40' " 
6307 American Palis fr Canadian Side viel tt 
6309 Whirlpool Rapids, Niegora Vallis 60? a 
6310 Cave of the Winds u * 1e5t u 
6318 Pano. of Culebra Cut ‘ 135! i 
6322 Old Market Place, Panama 120! " 
6353 Midnight Ride of Paul Revere 915! Historical 
(6358 The Blue and the Grey, or Days of *61 O85‘ Military 
6362 Pioneers Crossing the Plains in '49 990! Historical : 
6364 Boston Tea Party, The a 1000° " 
6372. Aeroplane Plights of Henry Farman . B00! Scientific 
6380 Pooahontas 1050! Historical 
6397 Colonial Virginia 9765! " 
6404 Cocoa Industry, Trinidad, B.W.I. 880! Industrial 
6470 Buying Manhattan ' 360! Historical 
6463 Brothers in Arms — O76! Wilitary 

VU Unfortmately, we ‘have no positives of these prints in stock, 

Form $39 

George Kl>ine. By 

. b. 
but since your object would no doubt go a long way towards popularizing 

moving pictures, I will be very glad to join with the other manufactur- 

ers in any proposition they might think should be made to you regarding 
this particular matter. : 

Yours very truly, . i. 

LD /IW Vice-President. 

ee Sas : oe ; ; whaetead 2 ees 

JUN 151909 

June 15, 1909. 
Mr. F. L. Dyer & Files:- 

Have gone over with Mr. Porter the recent list of Educa- 
tional films which I submitted to you, and the following are those 
that Mr. Porter thinks are suitable forthe purpose and all of which 
have announcements: 

#5739 migrants Landing, Ellis Island 140' Geographical 
5365 Prize Geese,Newman's Poultry Farm 60' Agricultural 
5380 Ducks Bathing,Allentown Duck Farm 50! " 

6148 Blowing Bottles 100' Industrial 
6271 Shearing Sheep, Humula Farm 95' Agricultural 
6274 Hauling Sugar Cane,Kohola Plant. ,H.I. 125! " 

6281 Scenes on Sugar Plantation, H.I- 370! eet : 
6302 Trip thro Yellowstone Park, U.S.A. 7355' Geographical 
6303 American Falls fr Goat Isid,Niagara 55t Wy 

6304 Horseshoe Falls fr American Side - 60! " 

6306 u " fr Canadian uw 40! u 

6307 American " fr ui " 70! rate 

- 6309 Whirlpool Rapids, Niagara Falls 60! Mt 
6310 Cave of the Winds, iy a 185! at 
6318 Pano. of Culebro Cut 135! My 
6322 Old Market Place, Panama 120° y 
6355 Midnight Ride of Paul Revere 915 Historical 
6358 Blue & The Grey, or Days of '61 1085' Military 
6362 Pioneers Crossing the Plains in '49 990! ‘Historical 
6364 Boston Tea Party, The 1000! u 
6372 Aeroplane Flights of Henry Farman 200' Scientific 
6380 Pocahontas - 1050' Historical | 
6397 Colonial Virginia 975! ¥ 
6404 Cocoa Industry, Trinidad, B.W.I. 880' Industrial 
6470 Buying Manhattan 360' Historical 

6463 Brothers in Arms 975' Nilitary 

- Regarding subject #6148, "BLOWING BOTTLES", it is possible 
we could get something better than this in the way of a special nega- - 
tive which we supplied for the Toledo Glass Co. some three years 
ago, showing the bottle blowing industry. It is quite evident that 
they did not make much use of this subject and we have the negative 
on hand at the factory, and if you think well of the idea, we could 
open up negotiations for obtaining the right to use this negative. 

Referring to the Niagara Falls films, we have very few 
that are in good condition as you will note from the above list. 
Mr. Porter suggests that aman could be sent up to Niagara Falls 
district and take a number of short film subjects illustrating this 
section, and the entire set could be made in about one. week;. and he 
also thinks that passes could be obtained from The New York Central 

Railroad, which would also materially reduce the expenses. we 

ee . Yours very. truly, a 
yy ete “f a a : ae We - oo 

term 008 Oleg 

% of 

Rt eS a ay a enn “Hr 
ae ON FILM sHoval TUNE 26th; 1909. [Rec ea 
Paw SH . 
Aye JUN 24 1909 
Motion Pi fines Patents Company, FRANK i. OveR, 
. City. rem. 
Gentlemen: = 
Pictures were seen at your office today with the following re- 
The following were approved: 
Biograph: : Edison: 
The Country Doctor. : Casey's Jumping toothache.’ 
Caught by the Coupon Craze. 
descaling Mulligan's Waterloo, 
Mr. Simpson's dhieust ions Egyptian Mystery. 
Winning a Princess. The Missionary aid the Maid. 

No Appetite for inners 
Saved from the Flames. 
The following were approved without Sindee: 
A Trip to Jupiter. 
The Man with the Dolls. 
Buffalo Racing at Maderia. 
The Vendetta. . 
Napoleon--three reels. 
Deux Bons Anis. 
Roman de Jeune Fille Pauvres 
Matche Enrage. 
Sanatorium pour Maigrir. 

The following Pathe pictures seen yesterday for the first time, 
are condemned in part; 

Drame des Charmettes. This picture is gruesome+-shocking as a’ 
whole. The Committee will approve it if the following changes are made; 

Cut out HEMKMX entire scene of actual poisoning (allow the 
woman to issue from the house and receive the phison from the hypnotist — 
and to re-enter the house; eliminate from this point until after the ¢ 
dead body is removed from the room, and after the scene where the heros 
tist attempts to make love to the woman over her husband's body. ‘This ' 
virtually means cut out from entry of woman to house with poison, to 
courtehouse scene. Cut out the suicide at the end of the picture. 
Kindly reesubmit picture. : 

M Le Maire est a la Campaigne. The Committee suggests that in 
the scene in the Mayor's office, where the many couples are together, 
about two feet be eliminated: at that point where the gendarme kisses 
one of the brides. : 

Visit to Riskra. Kindly reesubmit this picture. The hesitancy 
of the Committee has relation to the dance at _the end of this picture, 
put verdict is reserved. ; 

In addition to the pictures named above seen for the first time, 
three Pathe pictures were shown for reconsideration. These pictures 
hewe been condemned in whole or in part some weeks ago, but the Committee 
was asked to make eR aL wanene possible in a of the fact that many 


had actually been imported to this country. 

After reeconsideration the Committee reports as follows: 
; Pompey's Dream. One scene had been condemned: The scene in 
Heaven of St. Peter and the wine cellar. This scene the Committee had 

felt might be taken as blasphemous by parts of the public, but when 
seen yesterday it appeared to be carried along by the fareical spirit 
of the whole picture and to be inoffensive, The picture is anprov ed in 


Getting even with Everybody, The Comittee suggests that the 
following changes be made and the picture be re=submitted for further - 
consideration. When servantewoman leads her lover out of parlor toward 
her bedroom, to convey that the bedroom is simply another, 

Strike out the progress of the husband in pajamas, up the 
statts; his attitude at the outside of the servants door: allprior to 
his entrance to the servants room. 

It is likely that the picture, in this form, will be passede« 
with some regret, but the Committee desires to see it again. 

Caught in His Own Trap. This picture is difficult to treat be- 
cause the central incident has a setting of a kinddesigned to suggest 
only one thing, and this not presehtable to the audience. 

Kindly note the following change in the picture. Eliminate en= 
tirely the entzance of the wife and her paramour to the bedroom, and 
their scene in the bedroom. It would be better further to eliminate like+ 
wise the scene imnedtately preceeding this, when the wife discovers her 

husband as he lays the trap. 
Kindly submit this picture again after changes have been made. 

Very truly yours, - 


M6 fmm Ct oben 4 yo 

JUN 241909 

June 24,1909, 

Mr. Dyer:« 

The attached manuscript from Nr. Bradlet is an 
attack on the present Censorship Board, especially in any at- 
tempt to make it a national one. I believe his views are 
entirely erroneous and biased by his own desire to get into 
the game. Certainly he badly confuses the idea of censoring 
films from a moral standpoint and criticising them from a 
standpoint of art or from a standpoint of what the public 
in general desires. 

Gertainly the suggestion that oll film should be 
submitted for a general criticism to such of the Censor- 
ship Board that he Proposes, in which the Independent and 
Licensed Manufacturers should sit together in judgment on 
each other's films, is visious and unworkable. I would sug- 
gest that he be advised that we do not approve of his views 
but I do not believe it will do any good to go into any 
extended discussion of the matter with him, and certainly 
no harm can be done if he elects to publish the manuscript, 
since I think it carries its own condemnation. 

GF. 8, 

GFS/ARK . R) ay 


SO. f2— Censors he yo 

New York, June 21st. 1909, 

pu: AM, Bay Mids 

159 36th SIN. y 7) 

Mr. Frank L, Dyer, 
Orange, N. a. 

© JUN 221909 
FRANK a ibe 

Dear Sir:- 

Please find enclosed a manuscript which T have prepared in an 
attempt to block the game of Mr. Collier of the N, Y, Board of Censor« 
ship, of forming a National Board, 

I sincerly believe in a National Board but not under the present 
hanagsuent of the Ne. Y. Poard of Censorship, 

Please return me the Manuscript at your earliest convenience and 
let me know if you approve my views and in this case, if you would ene 
courage me to go ahead with the work, 

If you think advisable to have the manuscript sent to the Motion 
Picture Patents Co. you can do so. 

Very, respectfully, 

Pt, Cbeadlle p- 

P.S. In this manuscript you will find that I advise the Board of Cen~ 
Sorship to also point to the manufacturers such errors as I have point- 
ed in soe of your productions, If at any time you should decide to 
have an inspector to examine your pictures, I would like to have the 

ge Pd 
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pie. Me. Oradlet 
50 W. 36th ST. MY. 


Gentlenen st 

In ny report of 9 pages, on the N.Y,Board of Censorship, I 
show: ' 
Lie--That the too busy namufacturers heve no time to ingpect their pro» | 
ductions or to go to moving picture shows, i 

2te--That the producers are so wrapped in their work, that they do not 
8ee their own blunders, no more than a mother cannet sec the diffomities 
inwher new born, to her it is the best, 

Stee=That the mamifacturers as well us the trade papers, lose sight of 
the question: "Who is giving the nickels?! Not the rich classes, we 
have no moving picture shows on the fashionable avemies for the rich, 

4t~——They lose sight that if we heave to depend on the working classes 
for the nickels, said working classes do not know enough of Europe or of 
old Roman History or of ancient authors, to enjoy and understand the BO 
culled tHihgh Art Films', 

5:-—=Qur working classes want somo pood subjects, some good acting but 
they want something thet they can understand, something that can hold 
them in suspense from beginning to end, something that can either make 
them laugh or cry, : 

6t---Our trade papers do not consider these points and although knowing 
that most of the spectators yawn on their seats at such SHigh Art Films! 
as the Duke of Guise, they praise the manufacturers for the sake of the 
dollurs they can get in advertisements, ‘the public and the exhibitors 
are entirely shadowed by the $ $ $ sign in advertisements, 

TiwewIf the mamfacturers want to devote their energies to tHigh Art 
Films! let them provide special houses feb the rich folks, whe can ap= 
preciate the high art and who understand the historic subjetts, Berson 
ally I enjoy such "High Art Films? put I am not selfish, I think of 
the other ‘ellows, 

BreueIt would be the duty of the trade papers to guide the manufacturers 
and not to mislead them, in constantly praising (for the sake of an adv) 
Highly Artistic productions, not understood by these giving the nickels, 

9t-—=-If the trade papers are in business to make money, the manufacturers. 
renters and exhibitors ure not in business for mere love, they want to 
lmow what the public wants, they do not want to bemiled by a lot-of: 
interested compliments, 7 


:10---The trade papers are short sighted. If they would frankly advise 
the mamifacturers and take the interests of the exhibitors, they would 
give & new boom to the business, while this policy of "High Art Films? 
will mean a complete ruin, Folks who can enjoy and understand high art 
work, do not patronize the moving picture shows and these tho patronize 
our Sf and 10¢ shows are not posted enough to understand the work, 

Otte Pet etre) 

As I am on the side of the Licensed Manufacturers, I give you the 
first option on the following plans but if you refuse me your support, 
then I will have to see the independent side, Let us bear in mind that 
the good work will win, The public wants good clean pictures, acted and 
staged with great care but pictures that they can understand, as the 
moment they cannot follow the plot, they lose 211 interest, 

iY PLANS t= 

If each Licensed Mamifacturer, under the Motion Picture Patents Co, 
pays: me a-sulary of $20 per month, which would be $180 for the 9 licens. 
ead manafscturers per month (salary paid by the H.P.P,.Go) I will agree to: 

Liana will devote my time to the intsrests of sald manufacturers, 

Byee~Each day I will visit different shows,,to study the audiences and 
sec ull the new Licensed films os they are released, 

Btaumtl will write my criticisms as follows: 

On¢d the subject, the acting, staging, etc. impression on public, 

Each criticism on a special sheet. 4 duplicates One to go to the 
M.P.P.Co. 48 @ record---O0na to fo & the mamfacturers of the film as a 
record---0ne to go to the producore of the film to show them their ers 
rors--~-Qne to go to me as my porsonal record, 

Suid criticisms not for publication, 

Atwe=I will agree to spend part of ny time on the road, Bo as to study 
the wants of the public of other States, These trips at my own expense 
(except if I am culled on a special long trip by a manufacturer) 

I do not claim to be™the only one" but I have the good will, the 
ambition to see success, the desire to save and elevate the Industry. By 
my different examples, I show that I criticize without passion but with — 
some common sense and some logic. Evidentiy on the orad I will see some 
independent films and if they deserve any mention, I will send a report 
to the M.P.P.Co. 


#159 West 36th. Street, New York. Gino. My Bradlet, 



a) ' 
Gar) dye ge 

| Such oceacions as Lincoln's Hirthday, Yushinutan 's irthday, 
Deck. fon Duy, Flag Day, 4th, of July, etc. the Olurch Vorztors and 
Schoo. Soard Members, caspasing our New Yorke Hoard of Gansorthip, nee 
tong ani petriotic sposchss, 1a which they never foil to show the treat 
nflnence that mothers had on the lives of our graut nen, who meade of 
this Repablie one of the preeteat nations, 

Te is true that #21 tho rieny whe as Woshington, Lincoln, Garfield, 
Le Kinley, ate. loved and rernectod their puranta, ara tho nen who ro 
epect theiy fauilies, their omployers, ¢helr follow citligens, their 
emustrey garni tasir Flag, wen who hove the sense of daty, wen of road 

On another hound, the men who do not raspsct their parents, cannot 
vecract thely fiasllias, lose thelr employers end fellow citizens and 
heya no use for thoir flap, except to use is eo an aivertising sien, You 
fo nos ting the dseds of these men recorded in the books of our National 
History, s¢ cach desds aro the ones filling our prisons, 

wha ooubers of our Jew Yor Board of Censorship, sesin to have a 
double yolicy, hoy paso and socapt moving pletures seaching the reverse 
of what they ara prouching in their patriotic speeches, end this under 
the creuse of Biron moral lesoong, eet 

One of the ueeepted filac, shows uc en umneturel von, The old man: : 
tarns Rie property, including « suv will, over to 6 son, Vhis ron teulcen - 

Churge of the estate and beeaase the futher ie net willing to pive.up 

evary Ceziby the uncatural cen baaty hin, throws hin on the floor and. 007 oe 

robi hin. When the old father ie deprivad of his saw nitl, of his estute, 
of his homes, of his sevings, ete, the son enlis in the poorheuse wuron, 
to take the old man sway, 

YT fad to sec wuy strong moral Lesson in this 112m tut I see eo very 
devlorable leseen und if our youns genoration 1s taught to i121 trent ond 
Yob their purents, Washington, Lincoln, drant, Garfield, ote. will huve 
neo cuccessors to continue the National tistory of this Glorious Repablic, 

Tt is tine thet or i. Y. Board of Oonsership chonld be ealled down 
on u mnuabay of filus, whith should have not parsed the Boards 

I? you are interested dn a movenont to establich eo itveral, fair 
fdnded and honest Board, to take the interests of the manufacturer and 
of the exhivitor as well as of the yabiie, I will he pleased te call on 
you, if you cun give mé un interview and shey. you several papers on the 

fan inforsied thut the present 4. ¥, Bourd of Censorship is trying 
to infuse soue new blood in theiy organization, by making it wo National 
Bourd. Let be Locul, National, International, no Bourd can sucesed 42 
the ienbers are not cool, sober, fair and liberal winded men. Z do not 
ballieve that wo chowld chow & burglar at his professional tricks, yet I 
do not sea why the film The Lovely Villa? should be rajected by Chicago, 
In other words, the members of « Board of Censorship shold ba -ANGOLLS 
gont srough, to know whan the sight of a night shirt is: indecont ‘or not 
und not raject a pictare because a night chirt is shown on thea eersen, 
F159 We 36th. Stroct, N.Y. Ino, M. Bradhet 




In my efforts to have our N. Y. Board of Censorship, either 
placed under a more judicious management or reorganized, I have pointed 
two fates, 
lst :----- We cannot have established rules, to say what should and what 
should not be exhibited, as everything is good or bad, according the way 
it is shown, A murder, 4 burglary. a beheading, a hanging, a whipping 
post, etc. are not to be suppressed if such scenes are to illustrate . 
some subjects and not shown with a morbid desire or for the sake of 
creating some sensational thrills, , 

In my opinion, bar room scenes, in which men are having a jolly 
old time, are far more dangerous than a scene, showing a burglar at his 
work, Men know that no matter how a burglar can be #mccessful in several 
of his attempts, he generally lands in a prison cell, If a man can be 
tempted to commit a robbery, by witnessing on the screen the work of a 
burglar, this temptation disappears at the fear of a prison cell, The 
bar room scene is more dangerous, because it is a-real temptation to | 
find out what fun there is in liquor. There is no punishment in sight, 
It is true that many men go to jail, by committing crimes while uner the 
influence of liquor, but the spectator relies on his force of character, 
to stop drinking before he reaches the dangerous limit. 

In my opinion, a recent film is more dangerous than a burglary, 

This film comes from Chicago but the Chicago,.Board, who is looking 
only for masked burglars, did not see the burglary in this film, When a 
burglar is caught, he is not sentenced on the value of the plunder. No, 
If he has already been sentenced as a burglar and is caught operating, 
even before he can get any plunder, he receives a heavy sentence, which 
in New York means "lifet, In the fibm in question, the Doctor's wife 
burglarizes the medicine closet---she does not: get mich=--Cocaine---but 
cocaine to her means more than diamonds to burglars---she is cayght--- 
yet she makes a. second unsuccessful attempt, then she robs the desk for 
a prescription, ‘his film should be suppressed as the uncontrolled de- 
sire of the woman for the drug, proves that there is something worth 
having in Cocaine and this film can tempt many weak minded persons to 
find out what is this delicious sensatlion---and try a very, very small 
dose--~-and--- etc 

. This is why I urge a Board composed of cool, sober, intelligent, 
fkar minded men, men with some experience in life, not narrow minded 
youngmen from Sunday. school, who see in Cocaine a strong moral lesson, 
A moral lesson is desirable in each picture but we can show a good moral 
lesson. Look at this admirable film of Gaumont: "The Good Hearted Poli- 
ceman'’ is there not a strong moral lesson in it? The policemansmis a 
father, he knows what is the love of parents---what a noble act when he 
changes the dollar. These are moral lessons that do some good, that in- 
press, that elevate humanity, Se aah al Stet ar Me 

My second point is on the selection of the subjects, In' this T° do 
not blame the manufacturers because they are not properly guided by the 
trade papers. 



Tf T was an editor, I would say; "Gentlemen:~ We are perhaps more 
cultured than the patrons of moving pictures but as we all need the 
nickels of \the masses, let us put aside our personal wishes, to cater 
to the wanta of these who give us the: nickels, let’ us please them and 
not force on them, our personal views, We can admire some old historic 
and Roman plays, bat/ we mist bear in mind that our millionaires are not 
Bo democratic) as Mr y Anatole France ofM Mr. Clemenceau, ‘Who do not hesit- 
ate to sit with the/ common peaple to see moving pictures, - ‘Until we have 
special houses. for ithe rich cultured classes, we cannot. expect them to . 
patronize our 5¢ and 10g shows, The proof that the rich classes. rae not 
the ones supporting the exhibitors, renters and manufacturers, is fully 
demonstrated by. the fact that we do not find a single moving picture _ 
show on the upper Broadway or the fushionable avenues, crowded with. 
theatres, hotels, restaurants, cafes, etc. Let us think of the men and 
women, working ali day and who at night visit a show for a rest and a ne 
recreation. They‘want something to work their different senses, they : 

want to either laugh or cry, they want something to arouse their feelings 

they want something that they can understand from beginning to end with 
out the help of a lecturer, They do not want "High Art Films* that they 
carnot understand, they do not want complexe situations, requiring top 

mich hard brain work to make out, they do not want long sub titles, long 

difficult names that they cannot memorize, They want some good and olever 

acting but do not, care for "High Art Films" if high art means films that 
they cannot understand, We must also bear in mind that if the subjects 
as §Mary Stuarti-n—lLouisXvIt~---"Bonaparte & Josephine'™~--"'uke of Guisel 
~--etc, are familiur ot us, they are greek and latin to most of the 
On June 22nd. I visited Keith's, the programme was as follows: 

A LOST INVITATION~ ~ = = + - - = = Edison _ 



THE DUKE'S JESTER- « «= - = = ~ = = Vitagraph 
: On account of special scenery, of special costumes and actors, The 
Duke's Jester mst have been the most expensive production, with A Lost 
Invitation as a good second in the expense line, Even the Troublesome 
Lamp post, with all its damages must have been more expensive than the 
Good Hearted Policeman, yet the policeman was the hit of the evening. 

_ This simple touching and well ‘told story, went to every heart and while 

spectators for months to come, the Lost Invitation, Duke's Jester and 
the Troublesome Lamp post \will be forgotten in a few days, I feel con» 
fident that many men and women left the theatre to go ond tell to their 
neighbors of this good hea ted policeman, while they will have nothing 
to say on the other productiions. I do not say that the Duke's Jester is 
not a good film. No. It is a production giving mich credit to the mam- 
facturers, but a film too cimplexe for the average publics... ocr rs 
The trade papers areanelar sighted, They do not guide the manu 
facturers, they shape sony f editorials to the tune of the dollars they 

the noble act of the eee will remain in the memory of many of the 


can get in advertisements, An editor does not care for the public or the 
exhibitors, but he wants the advertisements of the manufacturers, He. 
will see a film of Art, something complexe, with a lot of subtitles and 
long names to memorize, he will see the spectators yawning on their seats 
and dissatisféeéd, yet for the sake of getting a good advertisement from 
the manufacturer, he will run to his sanctum, to write a fine criticism, 
to praise the production and mislead the manufacturer in the wrong cour~ 
se. If the editor was not short sighted, he would call the attention of 
the manufacturer to these points and take more the side of the public, 
If oat manufacturers continue this policy of showing us historic pice 
tures that the public does not understand, under the excuse of films of 
Art, they will ruin themselves, as the tired public will patronize .the 
shows and the richess classes will still remain absent, 

Another mistake on the part of the manufacturers is to believe that 
they cannot show good acting except in "Tragedy", I cannot call Pathe's 
latest production "The Grandfather" a tragey nor "Tye Foundling® of the 
Vitagraph Co. a tragedy, yet these two films of very recent dates ure 
perfect, : dno, MQ Bradlet, — 


fi Al, Bradlee I, fF —— Cen rorsé ye 

139 W. 36th ST, N.Y. 

: > O New York, June 25th, 1909, 

Edison Manufacturing COs, 
Orange, N. J. 


I enclose a few more notes on my question of Cnesorship and 
also @ proposition submitted to the Licensed Manufacturers, 

I wish you would consider this proposition and see if it would not 
benefit the manufacturers, 

This proposition is not to last for ever, as in six months, we 
should have enough records to know what is wanted and by the Same time 
the producers would gain enough experience to avoid the mistakes of to 

Ido not blame the manufacturers nor the producers, the trouble is 
due to the rush for quick work. 

It is understood that I would also make it an object to question 
the exhibitors and their ushers, to get their opinions, 

I do not condemn High Art Films: "La Tosca".~--"Lowis XVI"...'Duke 
of Guise™---"OQliver Twist'~-~stc. as personally I like such work, I enjoy 
every part of it but I have found by experience that the patrons of our 
5f and 10¢ shows are not posted on history to enjoy these films but on 
the contrary, they praise "The Foundling"-~-.~"Hunted to the End™=..1 The 
Grandfather™---"Good Hearted Policeman'--~etc, 

A iy delat cloenat 

' JUN 26 1909 


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My main object was that as Mr, Collier is trying to infuse some 
‘hew blood in his Board, by making it & National one, I wanted the maw 
nufacturers to take hold of the opportunity to have competent appointed 
for the new Board of Censorship, 

Personally I have no grudge against Mr, Collier but in my opinion, 
he is not competent to hold such a responsible position. He seesm to be 
too simple and too innocent to understand the passions of man, AS a ree 
ligious simple man, he is shocked at the sight of a night shirt, because 
it is a night shirt, he cannot see when a night shirt is admissible in 
a picture or when it is indecent, Mr. Collier has also some queer ways, 
He wrote an official letter to the independent manufacturers of the two 
films condemned in my letter, praising them for the high work. The said 
manufacturers were so pleased, that they asked me to send them skegtches 
with a lot of actions and great sensational thrills, I do not do this 
work, Had Mr, Collier any right to send such a letter and by 80 doing 
encourage a new independent manufacturer to demoralize the Industry with 
such pictures? According to your letter, you seem to approve hin, 

When I objected and when Collier found that my remarks WERE FOUNDED 
he offered to Chalmers, the excuse that he had to accept because all 
the copies were printed and consequently, it would have been a great 
loss to the manufacturers. This excuse was good many months agao but for 
at least 3 months, the manufacturers know that they have to show their 
first copy or run the chances of losing all their copies, if the film 

excuse was not valid in this case, In fact I had notified 
Mr. Collier of the danger of these films before the first copy was made, 
and when the first copy was shown, I notified him at once, I know on 
another hand that the manufacturers fearing the board of 66nsorship, 
made al1 their copies on the quiet and supplied their customers before 
they called on Collier, 

I have done what the manufacturers do not, I visit daily 2 and 3 
shows. I remain as long as I can, I change of seats. Not for the love 
of moving pictures as I am tired of them, but to study the audiences, 

The business is not as good as could be and will go down because 
the manufacturers do not see or hear the public, The public does not 
care about your fighte on patents rights, licenses, etc, all waht they 
want is good and clean work. 

The Biograph is doing some fine work, they are now the mmerican 
leaders but in their great ambition, they forget themselves and bring 
out some unnatural scenes, as:-~-the killing of a sweet child in a bar 
room fight----the unnatural parents not able to recognize their own son 
after a mere absence of 5 years---absurd-<-= , 

The other day you came out with some good work in a sense but spoils = 

ed it with a blunder, Your managers and your producers dwelt entirely 
on this question of the tramp. You spent a lot of money in scenery, in 
costumes, in actors, etc and for what? To hear a woman in the audience . 

‘at Keith's say: "What a foolish Judge~---stupid--.fake--=" Did youlook 

at the film? As you are an attorney at law, you should know that a ‘Judge 

anced hiins Sats ed 



must have have some common Sense, When the judge returns and cannot pay 

“his fare, why does he allow himself to be arrested and taken to the 

Station house? As in front of his residence/we see standing two officers, 
officers on their beatg, they must know of the judge and of his resi- 
dence and if the Judge was toa remove his wig, in Has presence, he would 
spare himself the disgrace of being dragged to the station house, fs to 
the cabman it is still worse. The cabman is not a passing cab, it has 
been. ordered by the Tudge as it is standing in front of the residence, 
When the Judge, disguised as a tramp, enters ‘the cab, the cabman knows 
well that it is not a tramp but the Judge himself and the cabman shows 
50 plainly this belief that when he deposits the Judge at the house of 
the ball, ne drives away without asking aSkieg his fare, why should he 
ask for the fare, he knows that the Judme is good for it, Why then show 
the cabman so excited st the house and order the arrest of the. Judge? 
Is it not sad that dater spending so much money on a filn, for 
Spsicul scenery, special costumes, etc, to hear some persons in the au. 
dience, suy that is is stupid? This is why I iadvised a competent Board 
of Censorship. If when Collier examined this picture, he had used any 
judgement, he would have vointed this blunder and by correcting one 
Scene and suppressing the scene of the station house, you would have 
seved your production, : 
The only excuse I can see in this picture is that you did not wish 
to give the lie to a certain English trade paper: by showing in your film 
not a worthless lawyer but a worthless Juage. This paper said in April or 
May that the members of the iM. P. P. Go. were a lynch of worthless laws 
yers. (I camiot swear to the trus words but in the articles were the 
words, M.P.P.Co, Mr. Macdonald, lawyers, bunch, worthless, etc, you bete i 
ter try to read the articles to Judge by yourself )i A 
Eo claim that our audiences are not so highly educated as to fully 
understand Louis XVI, the Duke of Guise, etc. yet our spectators have i 
enough common sense to discover these blunders, ~~ ; 
The Licensed Manufacturers rely on the fact that they have a11 what 
they can do. It is true, Many exhibitors stick to the licensed manu= 
factureis because the independents cannot promise, a regular out put of | 
18 reels per week, Is this going to last? The licensed manufacturers \ 
should not sleep on their laurels, as a number of new companies are t 
workig very hard, not working the cheap stuff of the Centaur, Film Import | 
Kolle, etc but are working on some very good pictures that will soon 4 
leave a number of the licensed manufacturers in the shdde, I do not keep 

my eyes in my pockets. I ses a good deal and I can say that by next fall t 

the independents will be in shape to offer a larger output of better | 

work than the licensed manufacturers unless the licensed ‘ones work hard 

to meet this coming competition, GOOD WORK WILL WIN, . : 
Although I am greatiy pleased to know that I can go and enjoy mys j 

self in the country, that the M.P.F.Co does not need my services and HN6 } 

perfectly satisfied with the existing conditions, I am sorry to see the 

‘Licensed manufacturers going so joyfully to their ‘ruin, My heart was 

with them but as they do not need me, I retire, — 

dno. M. Bradlet, 

June 28,1909. 

Me, John If. Bradlet, 
159 West 36th Btreet, 
New York, H.Y. 
Dear Sir:- 

Yours of the 21st inst.with enclosed manuscript, 
and also yours of the 25th inst., have been duly received, 
While many of the points which you make have some weight, I 
believe that the Licensed Manufacturers generally are satis- 
fied with the constitution and work of the present Cen sorship 
Board and the limits of criticism which thoy! Board: has marked 
out for itself. The work has been carried on for so short a 
time that it would be very unfair now to attempt to either 
oriticine them or propose changes in their methods, for it is 
not at all clear that their standard of criticism in regard to 
the morality of moving pictures will’ not de; accepted pretty 
generally by the public. You may be aware ‘that som suateians 
such as England, for instance, have attempted , eo cotati toh 
a dramatic censorship, and in such countries this cehisirehip 
is never exercised without calling forth ao wievioae criticism 

and it appears to me that this criticism is inevitable, since 

f7, £2, eat enna Pr 

#2 Me. John MN. Bradlet. June 28, 1909. 

no two persons will ever agree as to the proper standard of 
morality which should guide such censors. 
I return herewith the manuscript which you sent me. 
Your proposition to act as a critic for the films 
produced by this Company is one which I om not disposed at 
the present time to consider. 

Yours very truly, 

GFS/ARK . ; Vice-President. 

: (9. fe —e C ey Serer Gail 
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pie Me Braet New York, June 29th, 1909. 

“ag 36th ST. Ne Yo 
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JUN 30 104 

Mr. Frank L. Dyer, 

Orange, Ne Je \ YR 
Dear Sir:- 

Your letter is @ great relief to me, I am not selfish, I 
merely wanted to help the Industry, I wasted much of my time and of my 
money, with no renuweration, 

As long as the Licensed Manufacturers are satisfied with the pres- 
ent state of affairs, I retire from the field, with the greatest pleas- 
use and wish them good luck, I have done my best and I sincerly hope 
that in the near future, the manufacturers will not regret of having 
paid so little attention to my warnings. As I say, your letter is a grea t 
relief, as on Saturday I will be able to do, what I feared I would not be 
able to do, to go to the country for a long vacation with nothing on 
my mind to worry myself. 

I remain Dear Sir, 

Very respectfully, 

720, GQ, Chracller-, 
P. S. I add a few closing notes, 

Sk, iar ae on Finck. poageer. 27 God. 426 he. Orccbf 
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i, : 

96 TIFT AVENUE, COR. 15th, ST., | 

New York City. Neale ; 
\“" Natty ana, 1909, 
Xotion Picture Patents Coamany, NY 
60 Fifth Avenue, ‘Y 
New York City. 

The following pictures see at your office to-day are 
approved by the Board of Censorship in toto: 

Prince and the Pauper, 
4A Coward, : uM 
Taking His Photogranh, " ea 
Love's Sacrifice, " ar 
Mother Goose, " 
Room Matos, Lubin, 
A Great Wrong Righted, " 
A Soldier of the U. Ss. Army. Kalen. 
The Wizards Walking Stiok, Eclipse, 
The Pleasant Prince, Selig. - 
The Coin Collector, Gaunont, 

Raised in the Country, 
Visions of Mother, 
A Bad Case. : 
The Renunciation. 
Jealousy and the Haid, 
Sweet and Twenty. 
Mrs, Jones! Lover, or 
Io want my hat. 
No Rest for the Weary. 
Calinofait du Sport, 
Life Saving. 
Mies Hagele, 
Concert de Theodore, 
Incendté.re : 
Divertissement Chinois, 
Min with no Title 
Sking Tournament. : 
The Cobbler and the Caliph 
The Birth and Adventures of 
a Fountain Pen, 
The Magic Pen, 







The following pictures the Board would like to view again: 

Comedieu derriere la Toile 
Your Legged Piokpocket, 

eicewete (sit HUAN IEM TRENT EMATRON WEN waren acre 


Rat D'hotel. Pathe. ° 
Conchita the Spanish Belle, Eclipse. 

In the following pictures we would ask that the portion 
where the burglar in searching for clothes in a wardrobe, holds up to 
view a pair of woman's drawers, be eliminated. Also a portion later on 
in the picture he lifts his skirts and shows the drawers. ‘Both these 
cuts together would probably amount to only a few feet of film, 

The Sideboard Tolding Bed. Lubin, 

The following Pathe film the Board asks that the kiss at the end of 
the picture be eliminated. To an American audience this kiss would make 
all that had gone before too suggestive. Merely cut off the last few 
feet. : 

Aime part Sa Bonne, Pathe. 

The Board now approves the following film from which: we had asked 
to have some portions eliminated. 

Caught in His Own means 

Very truly yours, 
Per Valter Storey, 

also on the manufacturers. We therefore ask that this scene be eliminated | 

ON FILM SHOWN JULY 12th, 1909. 

Motion Picture Patents Company, ak wee 
80 Tifth Ave., ; aa va 
City. ae 
Gent lemen;= 

The following pictures seen at your office today are approved 
by the Board of Censorship:= 

A Strange Meeting Bio graph 
The Romance of a Stranded Actress Issanay 

The Sentinel on Duty Gaunont 

The Morning After " 

A Long Reach " 

The Hidden Treasure Eelipse 
Pleasing the Baby " 

A Pot of Gold Lubin 
Four Legged Pickpoket Pathe 
Comediene derrier la Foile " 
Across the Island of Ceylon i 

A School of New Guinea " 
La Victime " 
The Trappers tt 
The Prodigal Son a 



In the Gaumont film "Laurele" it is the opinion of the Board 
that the introduction of the scene depicting Christ poing crowned along 
with the scene: of the dancing girls, would raise a great deal of adverse 
opinion from most classes of people, ‘reacting not only on the Board, but \ 

: \ 

The Pathe film "Rat d'hotel, " which the Committee has carefully 
inspected hree times, is condemed entirely, The film hinges on the 
successful verpetration of the crime of burglary accomplished by chloro-= 
forming the ~tetin, The apparent ease in committing this crime adds to 
its dangerous suggestiveness of similar acts on the part of any onlooker. 
The Board feels that this picture woutddincite to crime and therefore can- 
not gpprove ite , 

Very truly yours, 

Gen'1 Secretary. 

96 Fifth Avenue, 

New Yori: City. 7 
July 24th, 1909 

The Motion Picture Patents Co., ‘ 
. 80 Fifth Avenue, City. ‘ 

Gent lemen:= 

The following pictures seen at your office to-day are passed 
by the Board of Censorship:e 

ke. Buttinald Lubig¢. 

Sporting Blood 

Lefore the Hast Selig 
Stripping the Forest Eclipse 
The Truant Vitagraph 
Bugle Call " 

The Squire's Will n 

the Better Way Biograph 
His Wife's Visitor " 

A Child of the Forest Edison 
To Last Confession Gaumont 

Out of Work Kalen 
Traced by a Kodak " 

"Tis Now the Very Witching Hour of Night Edi son 
ry Lord in Livery " 
Ethel's Luncheon - " 
Menaventures dtun Pantalon Patho. 
La Léttre au bon Dkeu 8 
Dusolfardie et Bee de Cag " 
How.Jack Helped his Little Sister wt 
How Balloons are Made ” 
Le dot d'Hermine " 
Elevage de Taureaux " 
Nm ge Ta Soupe u 

: Vaux Heritiler " 
Le Revanche de Bob tt 
Les covulisses de Guignol " 
L& Barba de Theedore " 
ie Jouer " 
Le PolicLer " 
ia Cultereen Hongrie a 

The Pathe Tilm "Une Nuit Parisienne," the Board £PAGSe: 
There is no dramatic interest in the pioutre whatever, it ee sara 
representation of men and woman getting drunk on champaigne. This film 
impressed ths: Board, as Pathe Mims always do, a8 a faithful and realistic 
picture of one of the mny ideas of life but to an American audience the 
sight of uwonemreeling drunk is disgusting. The publication of this film 
we believe would work great harm to the reputation of the Moving Picture 


: After the second inspection the Board passes the Pathe Wlm, 
"Le Jouer," subject te the following changesP= By elimination and appre» 
priate sub-titlea change the scene of th: attempted suicide by inkaling 

gas into one of fainting from starvation, 
“Suicide is always dangerous in ite suggestiveness to people of 

weak minds md especially so when the method employed is as easy to imitate. 

as in this case, 

The Urban. Eclipse Film, "The Turning Point," we would 2°” 
like to have reesubmitted. i Si 

TEES Seay yours JOHN COLLIER,’ ai 

[JULY 1909] 

96 Tifth Avenue, Cor. 15th St., 
Hew York City. A 
The Motion Picture Patents Co., iy \ 

80 Bifth Ave. 

Gentlenants ; 
The Committee on Censoring of the Board of Can sorship 
desires to submit for consideration to the film manufacturers, the follow- 
ing opinions bearing on the attitude of the Board toward criminal acts 
depicted in Moving Pictures, 

Criminal acts which are too violent or gruesome, or which 
are in no way essential to the working out of the story, are to be dopre- 
cated. Scenes which directly suggest the conmitting of orimes, @.f.3 the 
manner of pioking a lock or of holding up a person on a highway, are 
equally objectionable; finally, the Board desires to express disapproval 
of scenes which represent the mixing of potions of poisons for the pure 

pose of committing murder, 

Very truly yours, 
(Signed) John Collior, 
General Seocrotary, 

New York Sept. 3rd 09 


rad ie 
i \ 4 
Motion Picture Patents Co., |S eee 
80 Pifth Ave., ANY an 5 
City. “8 


The following pictures seen to-day in your offiees are 
passed by the Board of Censorship: : 


the Edison Film, "THE ORDEAL," is one that the Board took great 
pleasure in passing. . It was not only interesting from the exhibi- 
tor's view point, but impressed the Board as an artistie and dis« 
tinguiphed production. As an example of American skill in Moving 
Picture ‘manugacture, it will no doubt stand high. 

Very truly yours, 

Gmeral Seeretarye 

Message received at the 
opening of the Institute's 
Twelfth Season, Novem- 
ber Sth, 1908 : 

“LT send to ‘The People's In- 
stitute my cordial greetings and 
my best wishes for a successful 
year, 1am deeply interested 
in the work of the Institute and 
Thope the range of its benefi- 
cial influence will constantly 

Ciarnas E. Huains. 




Lyatan Annott 

Frank L, Bannotr 

Anrrep J, Bounton 

R. R. Bowker 

Eowtn M. Burxiey 
Nicttoras Murray Butter 

oun S. Crosny 
oun FI. Finney 
Ronert W. pe Foaxst 
Franken Hi, Gropinas 
R. W. Guper 

Samurt Gowers 

Tuomas C. Hatt 

Yr. “rank “. Dyer, 
Yresident,The lotion Picture Patents Co., 


Dear Vr. Dyer: 

I learn thst vou have 

have a talk with you as soon 



Wirutane M. Ivins 
Annizg 2. Jennines 
Georce Wittram Knox 
oun Brooxs Leavitt 
aucs LOE 

Wintsam TY, MAxwenn 
Francis ), CLAY MORAN 
Roneat C. Ocpen 
Henry Pantpps 
Leonora O'REILLY 
Georcr Foster Peanony 
Janes I, Reynouns 

acon A, Riis 
acon Hl. Scurry 
Samurt Sciursan 
Eowtn R.A. Serioman 
Isaac Newton ‘SELicMAN 
Anna Gartrn Srencer 
Lincoun STRRrENS 
Anson Puetrs Stoxes 
. G. Purtrs Stoxrs 
Linwan D, Wap 
Paut M, Warnurc 
Mornay Witnirams 

as it is convenient, 

Howaab Mansvirty, 
Vv. Everit Macy, 

Treasurer, 68 Broad St, 

Cranes Srracue Stiri, 

Managing Director. 

Cuanzes I, Barker 
utius Ilenry Cowen 
» Aspinwatn Llopce 
oun S, 
Grorce W. Kirciwev 
Francis R. Masters 
Evwaro D, Pace 
Tuomas R. Sticer 
Treo, M. Stet 
Set Srracus Terry 

Micnarn M, Bae Jr., 


- SEP 161909 


Sr ae 

uch steady 

progress has deen made hy the censorship during the surimer: the 


situation,local and national,which the censorship was designed to meet, 
has altered and on the whole favorehbly: and there are plan. for the 
jiinmediate future which will interest you and which I am qnxiows vo lay 
before you, IT can call at pract’cally any time you may sug- 


Very truly yours, 

gta Corbes, 
General Secretary, 
Board of Censorship. 

The Motion Picture Patents Co., 

Gent lemen 

passed by 


New York, 

80 INfth Ave., City. 

the Board of Consorehip:e 

The Judges Ward 

The Hand Organ Han 

Te Scales of Justice 

Stricken Blind 

Wife or Child 

Breach of Promise 

Their Social Education 

The Farmer's Rreasure 

Areoplane at Keins 

A Duel in Mid Air. 

The Lie; A Story of the Franco Prussian 
The Drunkard's sate : 

The Brothers 

Stag Ilunting in Japan 

An Aleerion Stuc 

In Ancient Greece 

Tie Harvellove Garland 

Woman's Life in India 

A Mica Mine 

Drudic Remains in Brittany 

A Tempestuous Adventure 

Acrobatic Exercises by the Colibri 

The Painter's Sweetheart 

The Grand Review before the Duke of 


The following pictures seen ar your office to=day 

Sept. 17th, 1909, 


Lubin ° ; 
Kealem = * 
Vitagraph : tego 
Selig a 


Eel in se 

hd ison 
Pa, tire 
Pathe ° 



While the Board passed the Kalem picture, "The Hand Organ Hen," 3% 25 

regretted that a subject such as kidnapping was used. 

Public. feeling 

against this kind of crime is still strong in various parts of the 
country and it does not seem to the Board ot be a goad policy to 
publish a picture, however is hendled, having for a sipjeot a 
these that is so cpen to etiticiam. 

The use of satire as material for comedy oxmplitied in the Edison 
film, "Their Socual Bdveation," is a new note in Moving Pictures and 
seems to the Board well worth following up. "The Lie," also by Edison 
impressed the Board as one of that Company's finest productions. 

or x 

Very truly yours, 


i cw 

Censorship Seoratary. 

October 16th, 1909, 

Motion Picture Patents Co,, 
80 Wifth Ava., 

The fol lowing pictures pictures socn at your office are 

passed by the Board of Censorship: 






In the Edison Film, "A ROSE OF THE TENDERLOIN," the Board would ask 
that the scene showing the suicidr of the woman be shortened. The 
scene as it wus presonted emphasizes the act too much making it une 

necessarily gruasone, 
Very truly yours, 

Conevrship Secretary. 


Lyman Aunorr 

Fenix Apner 

Cuanres FY Axep 
Axrrep J. Bourton 
James P. Boyre 
Witiian: Apams Brown 
Rourrr W. Brurre 
Joserit R, BucHANAN 
S. Parkes Capatan- 
Awnprew Canneqie 
Joun Batrs Crark 

R, Funton Curtina 
Epwaro T. Devine 
Samuen I, Donnetry 
Anprew W. Epson 
Roserr W. ve Forest 
Franxuin H, Gippincs 
Ricirarp Watson Gttper 
Samugn Gomrers 
Eran R, L. Gouzp 
Percy S, Grant 
Davin H. Greer 
Tnomas C. Harn 
Hamiron Hort 
Witnrase M. Ivins 
Gerorce W. Kircitwey 
V. Everitt Macy 
Mowarp Mansrigup 
Marcus M. Marks 
Winnias, H. MAXWELL 
Ronerr S, MacAntirur 
Grorcg McAnrny 

II, Perema Menpes 

R. Henex Newton 
Frank Mason Nontir 
Leonora O'RetLty 
Epwarp D. Pace 
Joun P, Peters 

Jaues B, Reynotos 
Wittram R, Rienmarns 
Jacon A. Ruts 
FRANKiaIn HH, Sarcent 
Jacon H, Scurrr 
Samtuen. ScwunMan 
Enwin R. A. Senioman 
Isaac N, SeviaMan 
Acorrt Siraw 

Josern SInversan 
Mary, K. Srxnovitcr 
Tuoaas R. Strcer 
Georce J. Satrti 
Enwaro L. Stevens 
Anson Purirs Stoxes 
Oscar S. Straus 
Rozert Warcitorn 
Encernton L. Winturor, Jn. 
Stepuzn S. Wise 




National Board of Censorship 


6 FIFTH AVENUE, Cor. 15th Street 


Atneat Sitrers, Chairman 
Wittian J. O'Sura 

A Wittiam Knox, Chairman 

Chartly Organization Soctety—W. Frank Prnsoss Mictragn M. Davis, Jn. 

Children’s Aid Society—C. A, Prossen Josern i, Daiscouy fins. Auatsra Puescore 
City Vigilance League—Mattuew Beattte Wa. M. McKenzie Mas. Joserumz Reppina 

Ethical-Social League—Gerorce Wituras Knox 
Federation of Churches— Watrer Laiptaw 

League for fvlitical Education—Rongrt E. ELy 
Neighborhood Workers’ Association—Howard Brapstrert 

Micirazt M, Davis, Jr., Chairman 

Mus, Auausta Prescott 
Mrs. Joszrumme Reopina 

“ Howarp Brapstreet 
Public Education Association—Mars. Mintam Sutro Prior Ravpat Fouxs 

Society for the Prevention of Crime—T, L. McCurn tock Titomas L, McCrrnrock Avoert Sres 
Woman's Municipal League—Miss M, Serena Townsenn OFFICERS 
Members at Large: Fre Counter, General Secretary 
Preperrck N. Cooke, Je, Executive Secretary 
{oun qoutes R be Guantes Hamace Berti WaLten Storey, Censorship Secretary 
RS, Joseruine Renot: USTAVE STR. 
Auuext Stets Miss EVANGELINE E, Waitngy "Phone, 3843 Chelsea 

Oct. 25th, 1909 
Mr. Frani€ Dyer, Pres. 
Motion Picture Patents Co. 

80 Pifth Ave., City. 
Dear Mr. Eyert= 

After our conversation in Orange, some 
weeks ago, I went ahead and began negotiations with the 
Board of Education with a view to pushing rapidly ahead 
the use of motion pictures in schools. We have now gotten 
several important concessions from the Board of Edwation.- 
Dr. Maxwell authorizes us to make a thorough denonstration 
of moving pictures in the evening recreation centers, and 
assureg us that if the experiment makes evident the value 
of moving pictures, they will be adopted throughout the 
recreation systems of the public schools. Possibly, a more 
important opening is the following: We asked the Board of 
Education for an opportunity to make a demonstration be- 
fore its members, officially, in the official room of the 
Board of Education. To this demonstration, the school 
authorities of the surrounding Cities would be invited, the 

object being to make clear the pedagogical and scientific 

National Hoard of Censorship 

96 FIFTH AVENUE, Cor. 15th Street 


Lyman Annott 
Fenix ADLER 
Cuances FL AKep 
Atrrep J, Boutton 
James P, Boye 
Winttas ApaMs Brown 
Rosert W, Brvere 
Josrrit Ry BUCHANAN 
S. Parkes Capman 
Joun Bates Crark 
R. ¥ucton Cutting 
Epwarn T. Devine 
Samue. 1, Donnetry 
Anorew W, Epson 
Ronert W. pe Forrst 
Franxuin 11, Gippincs 
Ricnary Watson Gitper 
Saver Gosrers 

Etaoin R, L, Goutp 
Percy S, Grant 

Davin Ht, Greer 

Thomas C. Haru 
Hamitron Horr 
Winttas M, Ivins 
Grorce W. Kircitwey 
V. Everrt Macy 

Mowarp MaNnsPinep 
Marcus M. Marks 
Kionkat S. MacArtnur 
Groncs McAneny 

IL, Perutra Mznoes 

R. Hesse Newton 
FRANK Mason Nontit 
Leonora O'Reiny 
Epwaro D,. Pace 
Joun DP. Peters 

James B, Reynotns 
Wittiam R, Riciarps 
Jacon A. Riis 
Franxuin Tl, Sancent 
Jacon Hl, Scxtrer 
Samurn. ScuutmMan 
Eowin R, A. Sentoaan 
Isaac N, SentaMan 
Atugrt Suaw 

Josertur Sruverstan 
Mary K. Sriguovircit 
Tromas R, Sricer 
Geonce J. Socrtis 
Enwarn L, Stevens 
Anson Puetrs Stokes 
Oscar S, Straus 
Roperr Warciorn 
Eocerton L, Wintiror, Jn. 
Steeuen S, Wisx 

Rev. Dr, Geo. Wintram Knox, Chairman 

Charity Organisation Soctety—W, FRaxk Punsons 
Children’s Aid Society—C, A, Prosser 

City Vigilance Leagne—Matritew Beattin 
Ethical-Social League—Grorce Wiruiam Knox 
Federation of Churches—- Warten LarLaw 

League for Political Education—Rosert E. Evy 
Neighborhood Workers’ Association—iHowarp BrapstReet 

Aunert Sitters, Chairman 

Micnact. M. Davis, Ji. Winuram J. O'Sitea 

osers FF. Daisconn Mns, Aucusta Prescott 
Mitton Gosporrer GC. A, Prossen 
Wa. Mo MecKenare Mrs, Joseruine Reovine 

Micitaee M, Davis, Je, Chairman 

Howaro Drapstreet Mus, AuGusta Prescott 

Public Education Association—Mrs. Minas Suto Price Ratrir Fours Mrs. Joseriuns Revoina 
Society for the Prevention of Crime—t, L, McCuintocr Tromas L, McCurnroce Avoert SHigis 
Woman's Municipal League—Miss M, Serena Townsend OFFICERS 

Members at Large: qoun Cottine, General Secretary 

‘rpoerick N. Cooxe, Jr., Bxrecutive Secretary 

oun COLuEn CHARLES SPRAGUE SMITIE Watrer Storey, Censorship Secretary 
Mas. Joseviting Reppina = Gustave STRAUBENMULLER ‘i 
Atuert SiteLs Miss Evancenrne E, Witttney Phone, 3843 Chelsea 


value of moving pictures, and likewise to ex:lain the busi- 
ness side of the proposal to introduce moving pictures into 
the regular school curriculum. To-day, I have a letter 
from Supt. liaxwell saying the permission has been granted 
and that it is only necessary for us to fix the datee We 
have likewise increased the official representation of 

the schcols on The Censorship Board, and Dr. Maxwell hine 
self has agreed to become a member of the Censoring Committ- 
eee In order to make possible the attendance on Censorship 
meetings of the men "higher up" in the education system, we 
begin this week to hold one censorship meeting in the 
evening (Thursday evening, this taking thé place of the 
regular Friday session.) 

I spoke to Mr, Marvin on all these points, and 
he suggested that I submit all the propositions to the | 
Patents Co. in writing. This I did, and I suppose they are 
now being considered by the members of the Patents Co. We 
are anxious to strike while "the iron is hot." There are a 
number of other impar tant developments in the line of the 

adoption of moving pictures by educational nd philans. 

National Board of Censorship 

96 FIFTH AVENUE, Cor. 15th Street 


Ivaan Annott 

Fenrx Apter 

Citartes V’, Axeo 
Atrrep J, Bourton 
James P, Bove 
Wiitram Apams Brown 
Romer W, Bruere 

So Dankes Capatan 
Anprew Carnecie 
Jousx Rates Crark 

R, Funton Cutting 
Epwaxp ‘T. Devine 
Samuet I. Donnetty 
Ayprew W., Enson 
Ronert W. ne Forest 
Franknin H, Gippincs 
Ricitarp Watson GrLver 
SamugL Gomrers 
Excin R, L, Goutp 
Percy S, Grant 
Davin H. Greew 
Tuomas C, Hate 
Hamaitton Hott 
Wituanm M. Ivins 
Georce W. Kircnwey 
V, Evertt Macy 
Marcus M. Marks 
Konerr S. MacAagtitur 
Grorce McAneny 

M1. Pereira MeEnpeEs 
R. Heser Newron 
Lroxoxa O' Retry 
Epwaro D. Pace 
Joun P. Peters 

Janes B, Revnotos 
Wintram: R. Ricitarns 
Jacon A, Ris 
Frankiin TH. Saxcent 
Jacon HH, Scurry 
Enwin R.A. Sentaaan 
Isaac N. Srusanan 
Acnert Suaw 

Josura SinverMan 
Mary K. Simknovitcn 
‘Tomas R. Strcer 
Grorce J. Satrtir 
Evwaro L, Stevens 
Anson Purrurs Stokes 
Oscar S. Straus 
Ronert Watcitorn 

Evcerton L. Wrturor, Jr. 

Sternen S. Wisx 

pesetoterl Ir) 


Rev. Dn. Geo. Winttas Knox, Chairman 

Charity Organization Soctely—W. Fuask Prasons 
Children’s Aid Society—C. A. Prosser 

City Vigilance League—Mattugw Beattis 
Ethicat-Social League—Grorce Wituras Knox 
Federation of Churches— Water Lartaw 

AcoerT Sirrers, Chairman 

Micnazt M, Davis, Jn, Witnram J. O'Sites 
oserh F. Drisconn Mrs, Avousta Puuscorr 
Minton Gosporrer G, A. Prosser 

Wa M. MeKenztr Mas. Joserumns Reopina 

Micwaew M, Davis, Ju., Chairman 

League for Holttrcal Education—Rouent E, Exy 
Neighborhood Workers’ Association—Uowaay Bravstreer Howaarn Branstreer 
Public Education Association—Mas, MiniaM SuTro Prcr Ratpu Fouks Mrs. Josrrumyg Reopina 
Society for the Prevention of Crime—'v. L. McCurntock Tuomas L. McCutntock Aupert Sqis.s 

Woman's Municipal League—Miss M. Senuna Townsenn OFFICERS 

Mrs, Augusta Prescott 

Joun Cortina, General Secretary 

Members at Large: 
(reventck N, Cooke, Jr., Exceutive Secretary 

OuN COLLIER CHARLES SPRAGUE SMitit Wattea Storey, Censorship Secretary 
Mrs, Josyening Revorva = Gustave STRAUBEN MULLER ; 
Anpert Sute.s Miss Evancrtink E, Witney Phone, 3843 Chelsea 


thropic bodies, but I will not take space to write it in 
here. It would probably be best if I could see you and 
have a clear half hour to talk the matter over, or could 
go before a meeting of the constituent menbers of the 
Patents Co. As I said before, it is a broad question of 
policy on the part. of the manufacturers, involving an 
answer to the questiovn whether they thoroughly desire the 
adoption of moving pictures by the public school systems 
of the country. 

You will be interested to know ,#hax in connection 
with theCensorship proper, + hat the National Censorship 
among independent manufacturers is now virtually complete. 
This hag come about through the shifting of most of the 
European agencies from the International Co. to the Film 
Import Co. We have been for some time censoring nationally 
for the Film Import Co., but continue to censor only 
locally for th e International Co. Unless some important 
change comes in the drift of the moving picture business, 

the Censorship will be complete for all manufacturers in, 

a few weekse : 
yery truly yours, g ts: wif cao 



Lystan Asnott 

Fenix Apter 

Crartes F. Axgp 
Axrrep J, Boutron 
James P. Bore 
Winriam Apaus Brown 
Ronert W. Brurse 
Josxrit R, BucHaNaN 

S. Parkes Capman 
Anprew CaRNeciz 
Joun Bates Crark 

R, Furton Cutting 
Epwarp T. Devine 
Samuen B. Donnetry 
Anprew W. Epson 
Ronerr W. ne Forest 
Franktty H. Gippines 
Ricatarp Watson Gripen 
Samugi Gompers 
Exratn R. L, Gourp 
Peacy S.. Grant 
Davin H, Green 
Tomas C. Harn 
Hasinton Horr 
Wituram: M, Ivins 
Geornce W. Kincuwey 
VY. Evertr Macy 
Howarp MANSFigLp 
Maxcus M, Marxs 
Rongar S. MacAntuur 
Guorce McAneny 

Hi. Pereira Menogs 

R. Hener Newton 
FRANK Mason Nort 
Leonora O'Reiriy 
Epwarp D. Pacg 
Joun P, Petzas 

James B. Reynotos 
Wirirawe R, Ricitarps 
Jacon A. Rts 
Franxuin H. Saxcent 
Jacon H, Scurry 
Samuet Sciunman 
Eowrn R, A. Serioatan 
Isaac N, Setsantan 
Avoert Saw 

Josern Sriversaw 
Mary K, Siatxuovitcr 
Tuomas R, Sricer 
Grorcs J, Ssatit 
Epwarp L, Srevens 
Anson Pitetrs Stoxes 
Oscag S. Straus 
Ronrar Warcrorn 
Encerton L, Winturor, Jr. 
Strepuzn S. Wise 



National Board of Censorship 4 


96 FIFTH AVENUE, Cor. 15th Street 

Avoert Sirters, Chairman 

Witiiam, J. O'Surea 

Mrs, Avausta Parscorr 

Tinton Gosporrex G. A. Prosser 

Wa. M. McKenzte Mas. Josgeminx Reppina 

Micnage M, Davis, Ja., Chairman 


Rev. Dr. Go, Wittiam Knox, Chairman 

Micnag, M, Davis, Jn. 

Charity Organization Soctely—W. Frank PrRsoxs oserh FF. Driscour 

Children’s Aid Society—C. A, Prosser 

City Vigilance League—Mattuew Beartix 

Ethical-Sociat League—Groxce Wiutram Kxox 
Federation of Churches— Wattex Larwiaw 

League for Political Education—Roszat E, Evy 
Neighborhood Workers’ Association—Howarp BRavstar2t 
Public Education Association—Mas, Mita SUTRO PRICE 
Society for the Prevention of Crime—T, L. McCtintocx 
Woman's Municipal League—Miss M, Serena Townsenp 

Mra, Aucusta Prescott 
Mrs. Joszemine Roping 


Joun Corurer, General Secretary | 
Frepertcx N. Cooxz, Jr., Executive Secretary 
Watter Sronzy, Censorship Secretary 

"Phone, 3843 Chelsea 

Howarp_ Drapstaeet 
Rare Forks 
Tuomas L. McCurrocx 

Members at Large: 

fxs, Josepuing Reporna Gustave STRAUSENMULLER 
Atoext Sitters Miss Evancering E, WHITNEY 

October 27, 1909. 

Mr. Frank 7. Dyer, 
The Edison Mfg. Co. 
75 Lakeside ave. ] 
Orange, WN. J. f 

OCT 281999 
FRANK L, bre) 

Through Mr.: Marvin and the representatives of the 
various licensed companies, I have arranged for an evening 
session of the Board of Censorship, on Thursday evening of 
each week at the Patents Co. office. This was done in or- 
der to afford an opportunity for various members of the 
Board of Education to be present, as it was not deemed ad- 
viseble nor was it very practible for them to give up any 
of their official working hours during the day. 

Dear Sirie 


As Dr. Maxwell, head of the School System of this 
City will be present together with Mr. J. C. Astredo, Chair- 
man of the San Francisco Board of Censorship and Mr. J. M. 
Casey, head of the License Bureau of Boston, we would be : 
very glad if you could find it convenient to be present and 
meet these gentlemen: ’ 

Very truly yours, 

General Secretary. 

‘ | 
| ee 

assets a 
an fare gts, 
oy, Orange, N.J., October 28, 1909, 


Mr, John Collier, 
National Board of Censorship, 
96 Fifth Ave., K.¥.C. 

Dear Sirie 

Mir. Dyer has received yours of the 26th inst. 
ond after gzving the matter coreful consideration, directs 
me to say that in his opinion the Licensed Hanufactur ers 
would probably be unwilling to advise the use of motion 
pictures in the recreation centers of the City, since 
he believes that this would simply amount to the giving 
of free shows to the detriment of the regularly establish- 
ed. moving picture theatres. lir. Dyer sees no objection 
however, to the use of pictures in the public schools as 
part of the regular curriculum, in which case, of course, 
only pictures of an educational nature would be used. 

You understand that these dpinions are purely 
personal with ur. Dyer and that he has not approached any 
of the other Manufacturers in regard to it, but he feels 
that his opinion will be shared by the others. 

Yours very truly, 

GFS/ ARK. Seoretary. 


Cyaan Annotr 

Fenix ApLer 

Cutantes Fy AXED 
Ararpo J. Boutron 
James P, Bovir 
WILLIAM ADads Brown 
Ronert W. Brveez 
3, Parkes CapMan 
Anprew Carnecte 
joun Bates CLark 

R, Funton Curtine 
Eowaro T. Devine 
Samuet B, Donnecry 
Anprew W, Epson 
Rovent W, ne Forest 
frankiin H, Grppinas 


SauueL, Gootrers 
Evcrn R, L, Gourp 
Percy S, Grant 
Davin If, Greer 
Tuomas C, Haru 
Hawutton Hort 
Wittraw M, Ivins 
Grorce W. Kincuwer 
V. Evertt Macy 
Howarp Mansrtetp 
Marcus M. Marks 
Wititas, TL, MAXWELL 
Ronzat S. MacArtiun 
Grorce McAneny 

U1. Pernima Menves 
R, Heozr Newton 
FRank 3fAs0n Nortit 
Leonora O'REILLY 
Eowarn D. Pace 
Joun P, Peters 
Janes B, Reynotps 
Wana R. Ricirarps 
Jacos A. Ruts 
Frankiin H, Sarcent 
Jacor Uf, Scuser 
Samuzn Scmunaan 
Eowin R, A. Seitantan 
Isaac N, Setioaan 
Aupzat Straw 

Josnen Sruvensan 
Mary K. Sixnoviren 
Tuomas R, Surcer 
Grorce J. Sart 
Eowarp L. Stevens 
Anson Purtrs Stokes 
Oscar S, Straus 
Roserr Watciorw 

Epcerton L, Wintitrop, Jn. 

Starnmn S. Wisk 


fF; f —Cemrner th ys 

National Board of Censorship 


96 FIFTH AVENUE, Cor. 15th Street 

Rev. Du. Geo, Witnram Kyox, Chairman 

Charity Organization Svctefy-W, Frask Pensoxs 
Children's Aid Socicty—C. A. Paosser 

City Vigilance League—Mattnew Weartie 

Ethical-Social League—Grorce Wittias Kyox 
Federation of Churches— Water LAIDLAW 

League for Political Education—Rovent E. Evy 
Neighborhood Workers’ Association—Howarn BRavstREet 

Avoert Sutets, Chairman 

Micaen M, Davis, Jn. Wiutan J. O'Suzs 
osern I. Detscor. Mas, Avcusta Parescort 
Micton Gosponrer C. A. Prossen 

Wat. M. MoKenzin Mus, Joserning Revowwe 

Micuaen M. Davis, Jr., Chairman 


, bis Howarp Dravstreet Mrs. : 
Public Education Association—Mars, Mintam SuTno PRick Rane Forks Mas, Jomtien! Renn 
Society for the Prevention of Crime~T, L. McCuintocn Tuomas L. McCuintock AvoerT Siters 

5 «od 
Woman's Municipal League—Miss M. Serena Townseno OFFICERS 
Members at Large: $ Jorn noun, General, Secgetary 
; Freperick N. Cooke, Jr., Executive Secreta: 

oun CoLueRr CHARLES Spracur Sst Watrer Stoney, Censorship Secretary ay 
fxs. Joseruine Repping Gustave STRAUBENMULLER 
Atvert Sites Miss Evancenine E, WHitnry "Phone, 3843 Chelsea 

November 1, 1909. 

Mr. Frank W. Dyer, 
Edison Mfg. Co., patios, 

73 Lakeside Ave., pen oN 
Orange, N. J. ecoes eres a : 
NOV 21905 
Dear Sir:= \ Pe ey BG 

Bem ae eee cee Siete Saeee 

Answering your recent letter in regards to the 
use of moving pictures in recreation centers. ‘ 

We understand the position you take in this matter 
and agree with you. However, as the enclosed copy of our . 
letter to Mr. Kleine will explain, we are going ahead with the 
idea of having pictures introduced directly in the school pro= 
grams. You will note that our work toward the introduction 
of moving pictures as a means of education will not be confin- 
ed to simply the New ‘ork authorities. We intend to have a 
demonstration in the rooms of the Board of Education to which 
will be invited leading educators from the surrounding cities 
and we also intend to send this selected group of films to 
other cities under our auspices. 

Very truly..yours, 

ee . General Secretary. 

EGH. 4 


Novenber lst, 1909. 

tir. George Kleine 
52 State Street, ; 
“. Chicago, IL1.. 

Dear Sir:- 

: ‘After considerable cork on our part we have at 
last secured the interest in noving pleturee of Dr. “illiam 
H. Waxwell, Sunt, of publi nchools in this City. ‘“e have 
arranged with him to pive so demonstration program before the 
Board of Hducation &93 S00n &B We Gan secure the proper films. 
the pietures which wa ish to gather together for this demon~ 
stration will also be used in & munber of other exhibitions 
in this City before othr bodies of influential persons ins 
terested in ednoational work. Later we plan to send the 
films to other alties such ag Vhiladelphia and 3oston. 

‘In carrying out this plan it is necessary to have 
from ten to a dozen of the Urban films deeling with scientific. 

biological and industrial subjects. 

erts to send us a number of samples of such educational films 

to this country for demonstration purposes, would 1t be posse 
ible ae us to have an exhibition of them in about six weeks 

You will very readily see that ve have ak last 
Secured an exceptional opportunity Lor the opening up of an 
additional market for moving pictures aside from the foot of . 
the granter dignity that this business will aequire 

om be~ | 


w= Pee 
Mr. George “Yleine. : 
ing esssociated with educational work of the country. 

Very truly yours, 

General Secretary. 


EG: F, ani aa sa 

f\ 4 , * ghee 
/ . 
‘| V November 3,1909, 

Mr. Dyer:~ 

Manufacturers' Meeting: You may wish to 
raise some question as to whether the Manufacturers 
approve of the Censorship Board's attempt to force 

_the use of moving pictures in schools and recreation 


G. FS. 


Motion Picture Patents Co,, 9 s¥"s— 
80 Fifth Ave., Mrtnaiee 
New York City. VTE 190g | 
Gentlemen:- TN Pe ast ae Sade 

The following pictures seen at your office yesterday, Nov. 
4th, are passed by the National Board of Censorship: 

Rynsters Ruse Gaumont 
Harloquin's Nightmare Gaumont 
Tighting Suffragettes : Eelipse 
From Workhouse to Mansion Urban 
A Miglaid Baby Essanay 
School Celebratidn in Newark Edison 
What the Cards Foretold Edison 
The Keeper of the Light Edison 
La Dame au Camillias Pathe 
Camen Pathe 
Jim Blackwood Hockey Pathe 

Jean Val Jean, the End of a Long Life Pathe 

The following pictures are passed subject to alteration: 

Tragedy de Belgravia Pathe 
Children of the Sea : Lubin 
When Women Win Lubin 
Personal Conduct of Henry Essanay 

The following pictures to be reconsidered: 

Tragic Idyl Pathe 
‘ ‘The following picture is condemned: 

"“Smuggler's Game” Selig 

The Edison Film, "The Keeper of the Light" impressed the 
Board as one of the most dignified productions of that Company. The 
Sea soenes were especially fine in thelr dramatic feeling and inter- 

The Camiliias and Carmen films of Pathe are worthy of all 
praise. Theactress taking the part of Camille was exceptionally 
good. The Pathe film "Tragedy de Belgravia" is a most dramatic pro- 
duction. The Board would ask thatthe part of the scene where the 
officer shoots into the prostrate body of the queen be shortened. 
Simply reduce the number of shots. The other Pathe film "Tragic Idyl" 
needs clearer sub=-titles te make it evident that the man has simply 
rejected the woman's love, as nowone is rather confused as to the 
actual drift of the story or else a very mordid motive is inferped 
for her suicide, 

In the Lubin fdlm, "Children of the Sea" the Board asks 
that the follewing sub-titles be inserted after the scene represente- 
can ea appearance of the vision and the consequent repulse of the 

re e widew, trueto her husband's memory, refuses to marry and 
flees heart-broken awaye 



We think that you will agree with us that this sub-title will more 
clearly explainyour meaning of the Buoceeding scenes which as we 
understand are intended to portray the idea that the woman, while 
deeppy in love with the soldier 1s still faithful to her husband's 
memory and the agony of mind in which this circumstanve places her, 
compels her to flee from the presence of her Buitor, farcing her to 
end her life. The other Lubin picture "When Women Win", the Board 
would ask that the folloxing changes be made. Cut out the latter patt . 
part of the courtroom scene from the point just before every one is 
ordered from the room with the exception of the two prisoners. This 
would eliminate the very undesirable Buggestiveness ofthe remainder 
of the scene + that of the conduct of the judge with the prisoners. 
7,80 cut out either the entire scene relating to the doctor or else 
all that portion from the scene representing the doctor arriving at 
the door, The part that follows, suggesting that the man has ‘given 
birth to a child is utterly disgusting. By transporting the courte 
room Scene so that it becomes the last Scene, you will have an inter- 
esting ending to the filn, 

The Selig Mim "Snuggler's Game" is condemnadenti in its 
Present form. As has been shown by previous decisions aes Board 
this body has no objection to the proper use of :crimeigjn a moving 
picture, The point against this picture is thatthere is no big 
motive back of it in the inoidents and acting to redeem the murder- 
ers, drugging, and general brutality of seme of the scenes? This 
picture is based solely on the exploits of a criminal, the love story 
in it occupying a very insignificient part. As a dramatic production 
it lacks quality, and if for mb“other reason, we believe it would be 
extremely imwise for the manufacturers to put this picture out. I+¢ 
would simply mean the }owering of the standard set by previous pro-+ 
auctions, That picture of this sort are demanded by the trade is 
probably very true, but the same effect of action could no doubt be 
secured in a more dramatic and leas thelodramatic manner, 

The Board is loathe to condem this picture, believing that the 
manufacturers are sincerely trying toproduce onjectionable pictures 
and therefore the Board would be very glad to consider any suggested 
alterations in this film which would: eliminate the undesirable featme 
ures that it now possesses. ; , 

The Essanay Film "Personal Conduct of Henry" while a clever come 
edy would no doubt be improved by the elimination of the very ob- 
vious and unnecessary display of <IHEEXXH certain lingerie upon the 
clothes-line in the back yard scene, Cut out thatpart of the scene 
up to the point just before the last garment is withdrawn from the 
line. In doing this you will eliminate a slightly vulgar suggestion 
from an otherwise fery laughable comedy. ; 

Very truly yours, 
Censorship Secretary. 



Lystan Aunotr 

Feurx ApLeR 

Cragces F, AKeo 
Axyrep J, Bounton 
James P, Boyte 
Witziase Apams Brown 
Ronert W, Bauere 
Joserin R. BUCHANAN 

S. Tarxes CapMan 
Joun Dates Crark 

R. Funron Currina 
Evwarp T. Devine 
Sanven. B. Donnetry 
Anprew W, Epson 
Ronert W. ve Forest 
Frawxirin II, Grpprxcs 
Riciarp Watson Give 
SamugL Gomrens 
Exatn R, L, Gout 
Peacy S, Grant 
Davip I, Greee 
Tomas C, Hatt 
Hawutton Hort 
Wits M, Ivins 
Geonce W. Kincuwey 
V, Everitt Macy 
Howarp Mansrienp 
Marcus M. Marks 
Wintiam H, MAXWELL 
Kooear S. MacAnrtuur 
Grorce McAneny 

IY, Penesza Menpss 

R, Hener Newton 

FRANK Mason Nortit 

Leonora O’Rettry 
Epwarp D, Pace 
Joun P. Peters 

James B, Reynotps 
Wiruraat R, Ricitarps 
Jacon A, Rais 
Frankiin H, Sancent 
Jacon H, Scmuirr 
Samven Scwuman 
Epwin R. A. Seniaatan 
Isaac N, Sauron 
Avoerr Suaw 

Joserit Sitvexman 
Mary K. Sinnnoviten 
Tuomas R. Strcer 
Groner J. Satrtit 
Enwano L, Stevens 
Anson Pitntrs Stoxys 
Oscar S, Straus 
Ronzar Wartcrors 

Encerton L. Wintnaor, Jr. 

Steruzn S, Wise 



~2_ National Board of Censorship 

96 FIFTH AVENUE, Cor, [5th Street 


Rev. Dr. Gro, Witntam Knox, Chairman 

Charity Organisation Soctety—W. Fuask Yersoxa 
Children's Aid Society—C, A, Prosser 

City Vigilance League—Matrnew Beattie 

Ethical-Social League—Grorce Writraw Kyox 
Federation of Churches— Watter Laiwtaw 

League for /vlitical Education—Roszrt E. Eryx 
Neighborhood Workers’ Association—Howaro Brapstreet 
Public Education Association—Mxs. Mintan Suto Prior 
Society for the Prevention of Crime—T. L. McCutntocr 
Woman's Municipal League—Miss M. Serena Townsend 

Members at Large: 
Joun Counter Spraqur SMiTH 
Mas. Joseruine Reppina G 5 

Auzert Si1ers N 

Edison Mfg. 


tss Evancening E, WHITNry 


73 Lakeside Ave.,: 

Dear Sirs:~ 

Oran Ne. Je 
range, Ja 

The Board wishes to bring to the attention of 


Auszat Suzexs, 

Micttage M, Davis, Jn, 
foserh I, Darsconn 
Mitton Gosporrer 
Wa M. McKenzie 



G. A. Prosser 
Mrs, Joszeuinz Reopine 

Micuaet M, Davis, Ja., Chairman 

Ratrit Forxs 
Tuomas L. McCutxrock 

Mrs, Aucusta Prescott 
Mas. Joserutve Reopina 
Avpert Sitvers 


Joun Cottier, General Secretary 
Faapertck N. Cooke, Jr., Executive Secretary 
Waxter Storey, Censorship Secretary 

‘Phone, 3843 Chelsea 

- SJovember 11, 1909. 

AD Mie. 
nrase JY OSes 
Mas W'S Paescore i. 



the monufacturers the advisability of having some mark placed 

upon all films passed by this Board, in order to insure the 
more ready acceptance of such films in cities where there is 

more or less local supervision. 

When the Censorship was first instituted some 

films were made up with a mark showing the approval of the 

Censorship Board. 

This was to be attached as a leader to 

each picture, but the use of it was discontinued as there 
seemed to be no protection against an irresponsible person 

from detaching this film and reataching it to any partioular 
picture that he wished, thereby bringing great discredit up- 
on the judgement of the Board. 

In view of the fact that at 

the present time it seems desirable to have some mark upon 

the pictures passed, the following plan is proposed for the 

consideration of the manufacturers. 

A gummed label of very thin, tough paper to be 

printed, stating the fact that the film had been passed by 
the Board of Censorship, and, if desired, containing the name 

of the manufacturer. 

This would be attached to the film on 
the first title picture and then perforated with either some 

device such as a star or the initials of the manufacturer 

or importers 


projecting machine. 

By the device of having this label attached to 

The label being on very thin paper would 
not interfere with the free running of the film through the 

the film containing the title, and in addition being ocancell- 
ea by the perforations, it would be impossible to use the 

nes Dosen 

iabel on any other film. Of course the use of the label 
would be optional with the manufacturer. What we wish to 

', Kmow is if there is any objection to authorizing the use of 

ws /EGH - 

such labels for those who care to use them. 
Very truly yours, 

hla Maloy, 
Censorship Secretary. 

1G, fo 


CASS Arya 



/ November 12,..1909, 

oo oufpey: 

On the 8th instant, I reoevived your letter of the 
6th instant, and regret that this is my first opportunity to 

I objected to the letter that the Board of Censorship 
wrote to the Luenmmle Company, as a manufacturer, and not as an 
officer of tho Motion Pleture Patents Company. 

It uppeary to me that the Motion Picture Patents 
Company is not in any way interested in my action in not 
submitting the flims of the Biopraph Company to the Board of 
Consors, except in so far as my action interferes with its 
desire to encourage the censoring of films and the improvement 
of subjects to the greatest oxtent. 

As you do not appear to be able to say what the 
course of tho Board will be in the future, further discussion 
veems %o be unnecessary, In the meantime, fdimy of the 
Biograph Company will not be submitted to the Beard to be 
censored, and the userp of our films will receive due notice 
of the fact. 



MR. JOHN COLLIGR, General Secretary, 
Nationul Board of Censorship, 


/4,f., — Cer sors ee 


Nov. 15,1909, 


Mr. J. J. Kennedy, 
ofo Biograph Company, 
11 Bast 14th street, 

New York, N.Y. 
Dear Mr. Kennedy: 

ir. Charles Sprague Smith, the Director 
of the Peoples! Institute, which is responuible for the 
Censorship Committee, has requested an interview in reforence 
to the prevent and future relotions between the Licensed Mane 
ufacturers und the Censorship Committee. Mr, Smith will be 
at the Patents Gaupangta office on Tucsday, November 16th, 
at 4 o'clock, and I believe it advisable that ap many of the 
Licensed tHlanufacturers an is possible be there to discuss 
the situation with him. I alno think it advisable to have 
a meeting of as many of the Manufacturers as possible short» 
ly after 3 o'clock on that day to discuss the situation before 
we meet Mr. Smith. If you cannot be present or send w repre- 
sentative, I would suggest that you express your views in 
writing us to what attitude should be taken by the Manufacture : 

ers to the Censorship Committee, and whether we should cut off 

#2 ir. J. J. Kermedy. 

all relations with this Committee or merely have them confined 

their activities to either passing or rejecting certain pic 

tures without comment. 

Yours very truly, 


14, fF — Consws Ap 



S | November 15, 1909, 

FRANK L. DYER, ESQ., Vice President, 

Edison Manufacturing Company, ih 
NOV te ug 

Fivivn Loe 



Dear Mr. Dyer: 

Your letter of the 13th instant, relative to the 
licensed manufacturers meeting Mr. Smith of the Peoples! 
Institute tomorrow afternoon, has been received and has had 
careful consideration. 

It is our opinion that the censoring of film 
subjects is very desirable and very probably necessary under 
existing conditions. 

Tt is also our opinion that a number of those who 
have taken leading parts in the censoring of film in 
connection with the Peoples! Institute, have not fully 
realized the importance and seriousness of the duties that 
they undertook to perform. 

The producing and marketing of film is an industry 
of too great importance, both commercially and in its relation 
to the public welfare, to be subject to those who, after being 
afforded every facility to accomplish the good work that they 
set out to do, now assume an attitude of controlling or 
dominating the business. 

Under existing conditions, we do not think it 


advisable to be represented at the manufacturers' meeting 
tomorrow or to meet Mr. Smith. 

It is not within our province to teli the Board 
of Censorship how to censor films, as censoring is its work, 
and we will not submit any of our films to be censored unless 
the activities of the censors are confined within proper 



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President. > - 

Wiis eee RES gel ee, 


Nov. 17, 1909. 

Charles Sprague Gmith, Esq., ‘ 

318 Hast 15th Street, 

New York, N.Y. 
Hy dear Gir:- 
donriening the understanding arrived at 

in the conference held yesterday between several of the 
Hanufacturers of Licensed Motion Pictures, and yourself, 
and speaking for all of the Licensed Manufacturers operat- 
ing under a license from the Motion Picture Patents Come 
pany, except the Blograph Company, these Manufacturers 
will undoubtedly be willing to continue submitting, their 
films ta a Board of Censors acting under the supervision 
of the Peoples’ Institute, provided the Peoples! Institute \ 
will insure that hereafter the work of the Censorship 
Committee shall be confined wholly to either rejecting a 
picture or suggesting changes in it whion they believe 
advisable, without any conments whatever that can be used 
as advertising, and preferably without any conment whatever 
on any picture, except such as are adverse to the picture, 

It should al'so be further understood that neither this 

#2 Churles Sprague Smith, Esq. 

Censorship Committee nor any of its mombers shall give 
out statements or interviews or publish articles whioh 
will give the public the impression that the Censorship 
Committee isn influenoing or directing the MNonufacturers 

in any way in regard to the kind of pictures, or method 

of treatment thereo?, which are being made by them, The 

Manufacturers should also be assured that the Committee 
will be made up of persons, each one of whom shall take 
his work seriously and not consider the film inspection 
meetings of the Committee as a kind of entertainment 
provided for them at which light and frivolous remarks 
concerning the pictures are in order. This last, I 
understand, is not true of all of the present members 
of the Committee, 

if you are willing to agree that the work of 
the Committee shall be confined to the }ines indicated 
above, I will bo pleased to send copies of your letter 
to that effect to the various Manufacturers, and I am 
eure that the former relations with the Consorship 
Committee will be resumed by the Licensed Nanufacturers. 

Yours very truly, 



\ : VFL? ~ Cet Save boy 




y g, November 19, 1909. 


Ky. Prank De Dyer, . (Pines re 
, i o 

Vice president Edison Mfy. Company, | “NBY 

. 4 v 
Orange, I. J. SO 

Uy dear Mr. Dyer:~ 

I have sent. you a formal communication in answer to 
your letter of Wednesday, und I want to add a personal line. 

It seems to me that it will be of importance for both 
parties to the agreement to have occ:.sional meetings when we 
can talk over matters and forestall any possible misunderstand 
ing. Will it not be agreeablefor you, or for some one in 
full authority, to lunch with me once a fortnight, or once a 
month, at the Century Club, or I can go over and lunch with 
you, and at such times we can talk over matters of mutual con- 










av / meine 

ir, Frank L. Dyer, 

joven ex 19, 1909. 

Vice President EHdison Mfg. Company, Orange, Ne J. 
Dear Sir:- , 

our discussion on Tuesday covered two points, and 
these are brought forward again in your communication of the 
L7th. Upon these we reached agreement. 

First, that the work of "the censorship committee 
shall he confined wholiy to either rejecting a picture or 
suggesting changes in it which they believe aavdwarne and 
without any commmts whatever that can be used as advertising, 
preferably without any conments whatever on any picture except 

such as are adverse to the picture" To this I fully assent. 

The second point touched the question of the attitude 

of the censorship comnittee, or some of its members, which was 
criticised as in some instances not serious enough. 

It became plain through our conversation that the 
chief members of the censorship group were not open to this 
criticism and whatever justification therefor had existed 
was one due rather to thouchtlessness than to any intention 
to regard lightly the importance of the work, or the interest 

of the manufacturers, and a suggestion to members of the con- 

mittee, which will be given, that objection in certain quare 

ters hes been made, will suffice to obviate any basis for 

criticism in the future. 






re de De 

With regard to the third point, which was not 
brought up at our discussion, that no rember of the censorship 
committee inert Give out a statement which should convey "the 

impression that censorship is influencing or directing the man- 
ufacturers in any vay in regard to the kind of pictures or 
method of treatment thereof, which are being made by them". 
Here, I think we should come a clear mutual understanding. 
, It is obvious upon the side of the manufacturers 

that the censorship comnittee must not be placed before the 
public in the attitude of directing in any sense the work of 

the patents! Company, and this is entirely agreed to. On 

the other hand, it must be equally clear that for the advantage 
of the Patents Company, as of the censorship itself, it is 
essential that the censorship shall have full authority to pub- 
lish abroed that it is passing upon the films manufactured by 
the company, approving or rejecting. . 

Through such publicity, the creation of local cen- 
sorships is forestalled, and censorships, already etablished, 
are brought to recognise and accept the verdict of the central 
body established here, and co-operating with the manufacturers. 

I believe, thus, that we are entirely of accord in 
regard to the points raised. 

I wish to further stress the importance of close 

co-operation in the near future, as I did at our interview. 

. J 
Pe Tre nn. . Oe . 

The larger work lies ahead; the informing of the higher cir. 
cles in education, the church, and elsewhere of the possibil- 
ities of the motion picture in the field of instruction and 
uplift, thus opening new and important spheres of activity and 
output for the filn. Also the further important point 

that in the field of legislation cO~operation, in order to 
forestall hostile, and promote favorable state and civic ors 
dinances, is important. 

A final word in regard to the Biograph Company. The 
Patents Company is-ineclusive of @ number of companies, includ. 
ing the Phograph. In censoring for the Patents Company, as 
such, the scope nvust be all inclusive. If the Biograph be 
not included, then the censorship stands not for the Patents 
Company, but for the several manufacturers, who accept and 
aprrove of it. 

I shall be glad to have a full understanding with 
the Biograph Company so that we may know whether from now on 
we are t® cengor for the patents Company, or only for all the 
uanufacturers thereunder, excluding the Biograph. 


Hov. 23,1909, 

lir. Charles Sprague Smith, 
: o/‘o Leoples Institute, 
$18 Vast 15th Street, 
Siew York, a.Y. 

ky dear Sire 

Your communication of the 19th inst. has 
been received, and I have Torwarded copies cf it to the 
several Licensed Manufacturers with tine suggestion that 
if your statement meets their views of the case, they 
should so inform me, so that I can communicate that fact 
to you, and ot the same time they can resume sending 
in their films to be censored. 

I believe that your letter covers all the points 
raised by us, though 1 think you should be informed that 
the consoring is done not for the Patents Company as such, 
but for the individual manufacturers. The Patents Company 
is not in ony way interested in the manutinoture of film 
by its licensees and has merely provided a room in which 
the censoring of film can be dom for the convenienae of 
such licensees. ‘The censoring of pictures is an individue 

al matter with each manufacturer. It will be necessary, 

#2 Mr. Chas. Sprague Smith. 

therefore, for you to take the matter up separately 
with the Biograph Company, if that Company does not 
submit ite pictures te the Censorship Committee. 

Yours very truly, 

GES/ ARK. Vice-President, 

Nov. 23,1909, 

ir. Charles Sprague Smith, 
c/o Peoples Institute, 
218 Nast 15th Street, 
New York, N.Y. 
ly dear §irs- 

Your suggestion in reference to meeting 
you occasionally to discuss matters is a very good one, 
and I shall be very glad either to take luneh with you 
myself, or have some influential minufecturer do BO, 
so that we can keep in touch with each other, 

Yours very truly, 

GFS/ARK. Vice-President. 



Vv. EVERIT MACY, Tacacurncr 

Nov. 24th, 1909. 

Mr. Frank L, Dyer, 
Vice-Fres,. Bai son MPg. Co., 
Orange, BN. Je 
Dear Sir:- 

Your communication of the 24rd at hand. I shall -be 
glad to hava xvord from upon the receipt of report from the various 
manufacturers at sn early date so that the interruption to the 
work of censoring muy be as brief as possible. 

In regard to the sxplanation touching the Patents Co., 
the situation will be presented in a clearer fashion hereafter 
tin: any statements made by the censoring committee. Hitherto, 
it hes been stated that the committee was censoring for the Tatents 
Co; a more accurate statement is that it is censoring for the 
several manufacturers who together constitute the Patents Co, 
rather than for the Patents Co. as such, : 

I shall deley communication with the Biograph Co. 
until after I have received word from you touching the replies 
from the other companies. If you have communicated with the 
Biograph Co simultaneously with the other companies, kindly let 
me know, . 

Believe me to be, 

/ Faithfully yours, 

KALEM COMPANY, co) as "25" aun 

Manufacturers of Western Union Code 


Licensed under all patents of the Motion Picture Patents Company 
235-239 West 23d STREET 

Eastman Kodak Building 

Telephone, 223 Chebea 

NEW YORK, Nov 24, 1909. 

Mr. George F. Scull, 
Orange, N. J. 
Dear Sir:- 
We have yours of the 33rd together with carbon conics of 
Mr. Dyer's recent correspondence with Charles Sprague Smith for 
which please accept thanks. Ye are of the opinion that the censor- 

ship should be resumed along the lines laid down by Mr. Dyer and 

agrecd to by Mr. Smith. 

Yours very truly, 
‘Kalem Co. 

By ee ee oe 


ne oar 3 
Lubin Manufacturing Compas 

PHILADELPHIA,pa,, November 

Twenty fourth 

Ta hak. 

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te Fy SOULE, 

The Edison Mfg. Co., 
Orange, N. d. 

Ae see 

My dear Mr. Dyer: 
We voice your opinion that the Censorship 

Board conducted along the line that you have suggested, 

would be ok., and think it would be a benefit to the 

trade in general. 

Very truly vours, 



November 27, 1909. 

Edison Manufacturing Company, 


Dear Mr. Scull: 

Your letter of the 23rd instant, accompanied by 
copies of letters between Mr. Dyer and Mr. Smith of the Peoples! 
Institute, was duly received. ‘ 

The Biograph Company has its own dispute with the 
so-called Board of Censors, and it intends to settle this 
dispute itself and in its own way. 

It will therefore not unite with the other 
manufacturers in accepting the services of the Censors as 
outlined in the correspondence that accompanied your letter. 

I thank you for the information that you sent me. 

Sincerely yours, 

Nov. 30,1909, 

My. Charles Sprague Smith, 
o/o The Peoples Institute, 
318 East 15th Street, 
My dear Sirt- 

Mr. Dyer duly received your two letters of 
the 24th inst. The matter of the Censorship will be taken 
up at a meeting of the Manufacturers which will be held on 
Thursday next, and Mr. Dyer will communicate to you the 
result thereof. 

The Blograph Company have been informed of 
the correspondence between lr. Dyer and yourself, but they 

hove expressed a feeling that they wish to settle the dis 

Bc amet ge l. 

pute between the Censorship Committee é Hons iselves direoct- 

ly, and it may be well for you to take up the matter person- 
ally with Mr. Kennedy, thePresident of that Company. 
Yours very truly, 

GFS /ARK. . Assistant to Vice-President. 




PREDERICK C. PATTERSON, SecreTany A) n) wae Lenhart nee bt ens 
. : Dec. 1st, 1909. 
Mr. Frank Dyer, 
Edison Mfg. Co., 
Orange, IN. d. 

My dear Mr. Dyer, 

As the one responsible for the reorganization 
of the Censorship committee, and as the one who has brought 
into association with it, a goodly number of the prominent 
men of this town, I feel it essential that I showR know 
speedily what decision the various constituent members of the 
Patent Company have reached, sas the days are passing und films 
are being ‘issued without censorshir. Furthermore, as I have stated 
in my last letter, we are employing secretaries and stenographers, 
and the financial agreement made six months ago has not been 
fulfilled in so far as the month just eading is concerned. I em 
not mentioning what is to be expected from now on. After our 
last interview, I understood that everything had been cleared up, 
that the financial arrangement would offer no aifficulty and thet 
the Censorship department would proceed with no interruption, 

Such has not been the case, and I am compelled by my 

responsibility towards my associates to find out where we stand 

so as to take the action necessary in the premises. 

Yours sincerely, 


Mr, Charles Sprague Smith, 
318 Rast 15th treet, 
New York, N.Y. 

Dec. 3,1909. 

My dear Sir:e- 

Uy. Dyer directs me to say that ata 
meeting held yesterday of the Manufacturers licensed 
by the Motion Picture Patents Company, it was generally 
agreed that the adjustment of the differences between 
the Censorship Board and the Licensed Manufacturers 
wes satiefuotory so far as it had gone, but that the 
Manufacturers believed it desirable that you should 
adjust the srievances of the Biograph Company before 
the Licensed Manufacturers resumed their relations 
with the Board. 

Yours very truly, 

GPR/ARK Assistant to Vice-President. 

1 erm t Pini gee One cree tT ere tom 



December 4, 1909. 


Iv. Frank I. Dyer, 

Vice-President and General Counsel 
Edison Manufacturing Co., 
Orange, MN. J. 
Hy dear Mr. Dyer: 
I have the communication of yesterday from your 

According to an earlier letter, I understood that the Patents 
Company,as such, had not entered into relations with the Board of 
Censorship, but that the constituent members, each as an individual, 
hed done so. It now appears that the constituent members, save the 
Biograph, are waiting upon the action of the latter before determining 
their own line of conduct. I can understand that ea sense of comrade-~ 
ship and association should bring this about, but on the other hand, 
you will recognize that men and women, occupying the positions of 
public trust held by those on our general and executive committees, 
are altogether unready to stand longer in the uncertain position 
before the public which they now occupy. Their good nane goes with the 
voucher they have given for all the films manufactured by the Patents 
Company, and for more than a fortnight no films, or only those of the 
Pathe Co., have been inspected. 

I cannot hold up action on their part longer, in the sense of 
general notification being given to the country and to the local censor. 

ships who are now accepting our verdict, that the members of the 

Patents Company are no Longer submitting their films to us. I enclose 
copy of a letter sent to kr. Je de Kennedy. 

Ud. d Sincerely yours, é ‘ 
ae SERB chon byl essere Boe poop Ie 



(Copy. ) December 4, 1909, 

Dear Sir: 
I enclose copy of a letter just received from the assistant 
of Mr. Dyer. 

I have tried to get you on the ‘phone, but without eveil. 
take it for granted you are aware of all the correspondence that hag 
Passed between the Patents Company and myself? and also as to the oral 
discussion. 1 am going to ask you to get me on the "phone at the 
earliest possible nonent. , 

The members of our general and executive committees hold 
positions of trust and eminence in thig community. Among the memberg : 
of the Board of Censorship are the Superintendent of the Public Schools, . 
Dr. Maxwell, two of hig assistants named by hin and others like Mrg, 
Reading, active in journaliom, You will readily understand that these -! 
men ani women are unwilling that there should be longer uncertainty 
asp to the course of procedure, Their 600d name is going with the ‘y 
films manufactured and distributed by the various members of the a 
Patents Company and this is now taking place without sueh films having 7 
been passed upon, I cannot hold back. their action any longer. i. 
Indeed, they would have becn ready to act ere this, if I had not: 
advised, urgently, delay, in order that a Work. s0 beneficial to, the 
public,and to the manufacturers also, should not be interrupted. 

I enclose copy of a letter sent to ‘lr. Dyer, 

Sincerely yours, : bi 
(Signed) Charleg Sprague Smith. 4 
Tour. tT Kennedy - 
c/o Notion bioture Patents Co., &: 
80 Pifth Avenue, New York City, . i 
I must have a definite answer by Wednesday. (Sd) Charles Sprague Smith: 
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7) Dec. 9, 1909. 
Mr. Frank L. Dyer, 
Edison M'f'g. Co., 
Orange, N. J.. { 

Dear sir: \ 

I went over matters of mutual interest with 
Mr. Kennedy the day before yesterday, and we reached a 
full agreement. . 

. I hope the carrying out of o ur understanding 
in the shape of our renewing the Censorship work and con- 
tinuing om the old basis will ve effected immediately, as 
naturally, my comnittees are impatient with their present 
equivocal standing before the public. 

I have suggested to Mr. Kennedy, that if necessary, 
we meet on Saturday afternoon or on Monday morning, to 
clear up anything that still remains.I mean the represent- 
atives of the manufacturers and myself. 

Faithfully yours, 

fact rman Wek, 


Mr. Charles Sprague Smith, 
The People's Institute, 
$18 BH. 15th St., New York. 

December 10, 1909, 

My dear Sir: 

Yours of the 7th inst. haa been received, and I am glad 
to hear that you and Mr. Kennedy have reached a full agreement. 
I am therefore wd ting the varinas manufacturers tonight, advising 
them that the censorship will be’ renewed, and I imagine the next 
meeting WILL be held. on Thursday, the 16th inst. 

So far as concerns the renewel of the. arrangement for wa defi~ 
nite period, I find that there is a disposition on the part of some 
of the manufacturers to oppose this arrangement, and. I therefore 
believe it would be better to let the matter run on from nouth to 
month, giving either side the option of discontinuing it on two 
weeks notice. I think we both feel that a formal contract is hard- 
ly necessary, because bf any substantial number of the manufac turers 
wished to withdraw from the arrangement they could do SO. To 
insist that the various manufacturers should enter into a formal 
agreement in writing to continue the censorship for a definite 
period would, I am afraid, precipitate a great deal of discussion 

which I think should be avoided. 

Yours very truly, 

FLD/IWY ss '' ° President. 








December 11, 1909. 

Mr. Frank IL. Dyer, \ ie : 
a4 tft, : us ; 
Hdison M'ftg. Co., ee w“ 
Orm ge, N. J.. y 

My dear Mr. Dyer: 

It is essential that I meet,at onee, with 
men who are empowered to act for the different man- 
ufacturers, and reach a definite settlement. 

Our Covmittees are becoming impatient. 
The monthly payment for last month, November, due, 
according to our mutual agreement on the first of 
the month, is still in default, and a financial un- 
derstanding for the future, of some kind, must be 
reached. : : 

As I had made no otner arrangements to 
secure funds,-relying upon te fulfillment of the 
agreement ,-and the treasury is empty, I have order- 
ed vacated the rooms occupied by the Censorship, 
transferred the office here, and am holding things 
in suspense. 

Kindly commnicate with me over the -'phore , 
as I am calling a meeting of the Governing Commit- 
tee for an carly date this week, and,unyuestionably, 
they will insist upon a speedy decision that shall 
enable them to know where they stand, financially, . 
as well as right them before the community in the 
matter of Censorship. 

As to further agreements, I don't care to-. 
make tem at long distance, nor of such a nature tha t 
they can be broken from one day to another. We 
need to talk them out and then either write them 
out, or put. them in such shape that the honor of both 
parties is bound, 

I think you will agree With me .in all this. 


Bae Jone 

1909. Motion Pictures - Experimental (D-09-36) 

This folder contains correspondence and other documents relating to the 
technical development of films, cameras, and projectors. Included are items 
pertaining to the experimental work on color photography contracted to Charles 
L. Brasseur, the testing of film stock developed by the Eastman Kodak Co. and 
the Lumiére Co., and the evaluation of improvements submitted to the Edison 
Manufacturing Co. by outsiders, including the Pathe Co., John H. Crosier, 
Hubert Meredith-Jones, and Charles M. Mapes. Among the correspondents are 
Frank L. Dyer, vice president of the Edison Manufacturing Co.; George F. Scull, 
assistant to the vice president; and Horace G. Plimpton, manager of negative 
production in the Kinetograph Department. 

Approximately 50 percent of the documents have been selected. The 
items not selected include correspondence regarding improvements that the 
Edison Manufacturing Co. declined to pursue, as well as items that duplicate 
information in selected material. 

1909. MP FD 

ke Jan. 3, 1909, 

Mr. Charles 1. Brasseur, 

116 Urenmont Avenue, 

Grange, Ned. 
My dear Sir:- 
This will introduce to you ir. Willard 

Green, un expert photographer in the employ of Hr. Edison. 
I have had a talk with Mr. Green in reference to the diff. 
ieulties in color photography, and it struck me that posse 
ibly some of the difficulties which ir. Green sees in such 
processes generally may be involved in your own scheme, 
and 1 wish that you would explain to Mr. Green, for ay 
benefit, your process, and particularly how you intend to 
overcome the difficulties which Mr. Green informs me are 
inherent in most color photography schemes. in other 
words, I wish that you would frankly answer any questions 
which Mr. Green may ask you about your process, so that I 
can be in « position to determine whether or not we oan 

see sufficient hope in it to continue with your experiments. 

Yours very truly,’ 

GPS/ARK. Vice-President. 



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Frank L. Dyer, Esq, 3 

Jan. 15, 1909. 

Orangs, N. Je 
My dear Mr. Dyer:-= 
It will be necessary to decide, within a very short 
time, who is going to undertake to make up the photographic 
emulsion for my color samples. The reasons for this I will try 
to make clear. . 

As you probably know, all photosraphic emulsions are not 
fit for color sensitizing: one emulsion will work well with one 
sensitizer . while another will fog with the sauce ‘sensitiger . 
and as different sensitizers do not affect the different colors 
in the same way, it follows that the colors employed on the 
negative screen vary somewhat with the sensitiser enployede 
For instance, supposing that to correctly reproduce colors,you 
need at C of the spectrum a density of say 2, aid at Da density 
of say 3, and that you find that the sensitizer employed in the 
emulsion is so sensitive at D, that the silver density will be 
5 instead of 3, it will be necessary to modify the color so as 
to reduce the absorption at this partioular point. What is 
true for that color is so for theentire spectrum. Moreover, 
an increase of the sensitiveness of the emulsion does not neces- 
sarily mean the same proportional increase of sensitiveness for 
all the colors. Of course, I employ compensating screens in my 

lens, by méans of which I can make corrections quite sufficient 


Pp. Le. D #2. 

for the changes which occur in a given emulsion, and also, to 
équalize the changes in the quality of the light, but it is well 
to start out with some standard. 

Personally, I had intended asking Cramer of St. Louis to 
do this sand have been experimenting with his plates. He is a 
very scientific man » has had large experience, and is not in the 
trust, but of course, if you prefer asking the Eastman Co., then, 
I presume the Seed Co. of St. Louis, will be the one to do it, as 
they alone of the Trust Compsnies, turn out zood wlor plates. 

Of all things, I want to guard against a repetition of my experience 
in France. There,I was prowised emulsions and delayed and delay- 
ed wonth after month while thoy were experimenting on their own 

As to the necessity of getting at this soon, you inust 
understand that I cut up only stained films, as a color can be 
readily measured when a large surface is employed, but this cannot 
be done with -anything Like the same accuracy when the dyeing is 
done after ths material has been cut up. In fact to determine 
the colors and the sensitiveness of the emulsion, the test had 
better be made with films of one color. These colors are now 
ready; all have been tested for their light resistance to the are 
light in actual working conditions; none have been kept which 
have shown the least change when passed through the lantern 1000 
times, each exposure being 1/16 second. It may interest you to 

know that only a little more than 50% of the colors submitted (272) 



Fn. D 
have stood this test. 

As to other matters; the machine has been entirely re- 
built and will be delivered to us on Monday. We had to do this 
aS apparently the only cause of the preaxing of tie thread and there 
fore the entangleuent of the machine was due to a slight eccentric 
ity in the cutters, which moant that one pert of tna film would 
be cut and pulled a minute faction or an inch ahead of the other. 
Apsolutsly, of vourse, this is inevitable; a certain play of the 

parts must we allowed, else the cutters cannot be mounted, but we 


ave had tre shafts ground to the 1/10000 inch; the cutters and 
every part have been made over with Like accuracy. Moreover, 

® <rinding attachment has pean nace by which 211 cutters will be 
ground sinulteneously after ocing mounted on the shaft. The next 
thing is to attach a paraffinines machine, so us to make a solid 
sheet of threads, as the latter come from the machine, and then 

cut uo these sheets transversely. We have beon studying this up 

and will take it up further as soon as the machine is in. 

As to the new lantern, the purvose of which is to obtain 
&® larger anount of light without increasing the amount of current 
consumed, this is well underway; the lamp is ready and TI have 
been promised the lenses this woek. TI hope there will be but 
Little delay here. 

As to the contact prints I have praised you, you will 

nave these in the next few days. My original arrangement was 

ratherprimitive and it was difficult to obtain great accuracy. TI 


r.L. D. #4 
have a newons finished today; new and very luminous screens have 
been made and while it is difficult to adjust olors when ths 
only examination you can make is on grains of very small diameters 
still, I au satisfied that the result will amply meet your expac~ 

Kindly let me know your opinion in regard to the above 
and oplige 

Yours very truly, 

Form $49 


- 1904 

Jan, 20, 1909. ° 

Charlas I, Brasseur, Taq. , 
. , Orange, HV. ce 
My dear Mr, Brasseur: 

Thank you very much for your interesting 
report of Jan. L5th. Exactly what'is it that you wish to have 
Cramer of St. Louis do for you? Is he to mike the complete film 
or simply buv the celluloid atrips and. apply the emulsion to? 

“T wish before doting amthing finally in this mat ter you would let 

me know in #& general vay what the Cost. wi11 be, 


Yours very truly, 

Fun /Tww on Vice-President, 

LABORATORY OF oo es am a 4 1%o9 "n P. _ 

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( ih ae Feb. 1, 1909, 

Frank L. Dyer, Esq. ; 


Orange, N. J. ‘ a a ae see on 

WE Pee not ered 
bibs Tha casey i 

Dear Mr. Dyer:- 

I liave read with interest the article you sent me 
ontitled "Animated Pictures in Colors," As far as I can see 
it relates to the same process about which I wrote you on August 
the 10th of last year. I take this occasion to return the 
letter of that date as well as the patent describing a similar 
process by Messrs Lee & Turner. 

the method, whatever it is, calls for at least double 
the longth of film used in my own, as there are thirty-two pic- 
tures taken ver second and moreover it calls for an addition 
to the projection apparatus. the one very interesting point 
as far as I an concerned, ‘is that the reds were photographed in 
an exceedingly short period of time, less than one-half of? the 
time which I will have at my disposal, 

As to the two-color phase of ‘this question, I fear that 
to coment on such garbled reports as newspaper men are capable 
of maicing , would be an injustice to Mr. Smith. All I imow of the 
two-color process is, that some years ago I saw some two-color 
lantern slides made, if my memory serves me rignot, by a Mr.Smith 
of Zurich, I do not lnow whether this is the same party or not, 
but the examples shown were pure charlatanisn,. A landscape was 
reproduced by means of a yellow and a blue print, the yellow and 
blue making; the green trees, and the blue , the sky and the refleo- 

tions in the water. The whites were, of course, white. That 




PoL.D. #2. 

is not natural color-photogranphy. In this case the red seems:. 
to have been reproduced, which would indicate that another color 
has been used. the statenent attributed to lr. Sinith that 
"three was not necessarily a magic number" is true in one sense 
of the word. the experiments of Young, of Helitidliz, of Maxwell, 
of Abney and the practical application of these experiments to 

color-photography by Mr. Ives and myself have shovm three: sensation 


‘te theory to ve a hard physiolopical fact. But if Hr. Smith's 

statement, that you can make white by projecting two colors im- 
plies that you can make all colors by a mixture of two colors ‘ 
then, that is decidedly magic. It is of course possible to 
make white with two colors, for instance, a purple and a green 
make white; a red and cyan blue make white; a:yellév 2nd a blue 
make white, but in all these cases use is made of one primary 
color and one binary, i.e. a purple. and a green really means 

a red plus blue, making ‘purple and a green which accounts for the 
three primary colors. It might~be, and this is only a conjec- 
ture on my part, that Mr. Smith photographs through two filters, 
the reddish orange and the green and depends on an excessively 
short exposure without any filter to obtain the blue. As you 
know, every ordinary photograph is only a record of the blue and 
violet rays. Even ih that case it would be necessary to make the 
projection through the two red and green filters and the third 

photograph which had been taken without a filter would have to be 



P.L.D. 73. 

projected through a blue filter, T believe this conjecture of 
mine is not very far wrong. As soonlas I can find time, I will 
Look up the technical papers to see if I cannot get more pre- 
cise information and will commminicate to you whatever I find of 

I regret I cannot give you infornsation more to the point 
and remain 

Yours very truly, 

Ske Vllident 





Orange, N. Js august 10, 1908. 
AREY Yor, 190 
dear Mr. Dyer:- 

My attention has been called to some newspaper articles 
relating to the swith process of color-photography as applied to 
moving pictures, If I understand it correctly , the photographs 
are made through alternate discs of red, green and blue sorsens; 
the color record of each color photograph consisting of three suc- 
cessive black and white photographs on a continuous film. It 
follows that,theoretically, the color film would be three times as 
long as thet which I am now working on, that is, instead of a 400 
ft. film, a 1200 ft. film would be required. Practically, I do 
not think that the increase of length would be as great as this, 
as there is a psychological factor which it is impossible to de- 
tormine except by experiment, The projection of the picture is 
made in a special machine having revolving discs alternately red, é 
green and blue and through which the colorless photographs are 4 

Now, as far back as 1901,I published in the Journal of 
Photography of Great Britian, the fact that all the colors of the 
spectrum could reproduced by successively presenting to the eye 
different proportions of red, green and blue in order to obtain 
all the colors of the spectrum, and it may interest you to know 

thta, since I have been here, I have made up a spectrum on film by 


that method intending to show it to you when you called on me as 
Mr Wilson had announced, What Iam driving at is this, that I 

can without "poaching on Mr. Smith's preserves" make up a film 

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New York, ; 190 

Qperheam's fla 4} 

dn which the alternate pictures would be backed by a red, green 
and blue film as shownon the accompanying sketch and which would 
have the advantage of its beiny possible to use it on the present 
macnine without any change whatsoever in the machine. Instead of 
being a colorless picture, as Mr. Smith's is, the pictures will 
be alternately red, green and blue and there would ve no revolving 
disc to complicate the mechanism of the machine. In fact, many 
variations of this idea can be readily imagined. The picture can 
be made in broad alternate stripes of red, green and blue, the ohne 
necessary factor being, that,on three successive pictures the red, 
green and blue stripes shall be directly one over the other. 

I'believe a patent could be secured for this,in view of 
my former work,without mach trouble. I do not believe that it is 
by any means worth the process I am now working on. The latter 
has the advantage that the film is of the same length as the black 
and white, and that the red exposure is the same as that of the 
entire picture, While on Mr. Smith's the red exposure is much 
Less, necessitating therefore very fine weather in which to do it, 

Kindly consider the matter and when you have time I will 
call on you, or what would please me very much better have you 
call on me and have you see the laboratory, 

I remain, 

Yours a truly, 

Che C Woes. 






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February 15, 1909. 

Mr. Dyer: 

Referring to the eholoned letter from Mr. Brasseur relat- 
ing to colored moving pictures, Mr. Brasseur states that the process 
in the article entitled "Animated Pictures in Colors" apparently 
relates to the same process about which he wrote you last August. 
That process was the one in which the phenomenon of persistence of 
vision was made use of to mingle the three primary colors together 
to produce the effect of the natural colors, i filed an application 
for Mr. Edison on this subject August 13, 1908, in which i referred 
to the possibility of using the modification proposed by Mr. Brasseur 
namely, to color the films themselves in some way, instead of using 
a colored shutter. . 

There i8 apparently nothing in this broadly, but if a 
number of people are considering the process as commercially feasible 
for moving pictures, it would be well to take out patents on any 
specific improvements or specific devices connected with the process 

that Mr. Brasseur or any one else might think of, 



LABORATORY OF \9 O gy Mm : P: a Tees r 

116°TREMONT AVENUE mn ae) 
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Feb. 23, 1909., 

fet ee | 

Frank L. Dyer, Esq., . bee ls | 
Orange, HN. J, 00 Te ae 
liy dear lir. Dyer:~ < 
PP tte? 

I an sending you Rerewith a contact positive which TI 
think will interest you. I have endeavored to unite some of the 
difficulties of color reproduction and am: fled to say, have, 

I believe, been very successful. I will call your attention, 
first, to the gradations of black and White, white, grey and black 
in the plaid dress; the two extreme colors of the spectrum, red 
and blue; the very delicate coloring of the face, hand and hair. 
The inequality of the silver deposit towards the middle of the 
plate Give a rather weak Ground, but this is not due to the nega- 
tive. As soon as I receive new plates I will make over the 

the negative and the Positive thet I herewith send you 
have not been retouched in any way whatsoever. I will make up 
in a few days sozo subjects presenting other difficulties and then 
I think that you will probebly be - sufficiently satisfied to war- 
rant ny discontinuing this particular kind of demonstration until 
my own films are ready. 

We have today sent the machine in to New York to have the 
gears put on. which are necessary to run it by power, & prelimin~ 
ary step to efable me to do the grinding. The machine is now, we 

believe, in its definite form. As goon as it has been returned We 


FLD. #2. 
will ‘have it worked continuously for a week or ten days, and, if 
that proves satisfactory we will be in position to begin cross-cut 
ting. There have been many difficulties encountered in obtaining 
satisfactory metal. A Swedish mill waich hed gent me some very 
peautiful stecl has just cabled me that they will not undertake 
to grind it dowm thinner thai. the material I now use. A French 
mill has gent me polished tempered steel of half the thiclmess, 
but it was not absolutely sinooth. This was probably due to defects 
of the machinery employed. I have instructed them to cable me 
whether they could overcome this or not. If they do not, I will 
have to take the bull by the horns and do the final rolling and 
grinding of the material at the laboratory. What has been done 
outside hes cost a great deal and is never as satisfactorily finish- 
ed as it ought to be. The tempering done by Browm & Sharp has been 
very satisfactory, put they decline to do the polishing. TI am 
sorry to have to trouble you with such details, but unless you 
are acquainted with them it is hard to realize the amount of tine 
an patience necessary to overaome what appear to be, minor difficul 
ties. I have not yet gone to St. Louls, and will not do so until 
after the final trial of the machine. 

tT remain, 

Yours very truly, 


[MARCH 22, 1909] 

rere See 

7 L- Memo, No. 502, 
Messra. Wilson, Weber and 

You are appointed a committee to thoroughhy 
investigate the present situation of Mr, Brasseyr's work and to 
recommend whether the work should be dropped or be continued for 
a further period of a year. 

I would like to have this report at the earliest possible 
moment, so that a decision can be made without delay. 

It seems to be reasonably clear that, theoretically, Mr. 
Brasseur's plan is correct, but you had better satisfy yourselves 
on this point by seeing, if possible, the actual printing and 
developing of a colored positive. 

My own opinion is that the problem to be solved is purely 
a@ mechanical one, namely, whether an enormous number of mioro- 
scopic celluloid globules can be made, tinted and applied to a 
celluloid strip, with sufficient economy to make the process 
practical. ‘Possibly you might satisfy yourselves that the pro- 
cess of making these globules that Mr. Brasseur is working on 
may be changed so as to be practical. 

Mr. Scull is to report, in addition, briefly on the patent 
situation, so that we may know that if we go ahead our protection 
will be sufficient; and also, if Mr. Brasseur should leave, whether 
we could go ahead ourselves on the same lines. 

Your report should take into account also that probably within 
the next year the celluloid film will be a thing of the past and 
the non~imflammable film aubstituted. You want to satisfy your- 
selves that the process oan be carried out with the non«flanmable 
film. , 

TLD/IWW ¥. L. De 


Yorn $49 

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April 6, 1909, 

liv, Horace ¢. Plimpton, 
Manager Nerative Pvoduetion, 
Brovaz Studio, New York, 
Toway have told vou tat the TInuuiere Co. submiticad Lo 
us Tov trial some positive and nervative Pilm, whids I baliave was 

turned over to Mr, iloore, To owhaeh teu vowle Sheek this up and heve 
: I 

it, tested. fhe identity of the film ghonld not bo alsclosed, 
if possible, to waryone, because T do not vant. the Hastman people 

to know that we ere experimenting with obhey files. 

Iam advised that this film is threo times faster (both 
negative and positive) than the Bantman film, so that the ecaacra 
Operator should be advised accordingly. v 

_ Have a test made with the Lumiere negative and advise m ag 
coon as the exposure has taken place, because the Luniere people 
with to have one Of their men attend to the developing. 

Tt might be a good plan to use thig Lumiere in the second, camra 
so that the sono picture can be taken.on both the Bastman and. 
Lumiere films and a comparison of thy two thereby ‘made. Do not . 
rui the risk of using the Inmiore film alone. 

Iam anxious to have this teat of the Lundere filly made 

Form $39 a ere 

Horace (t, Plimpton... 2 5 

wie 4/6/09.- 

imnediately, because we are having so much trouble with the 

Bastman negative, and some relief wicht be seawed by trying the 

Lumiere negative. 

Yours very truly, 

ERD /LWw Vice-Prenident, 





10 FirrH Avenue, New YorK 

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wy gon 1 els Park 

Meet ie ed Hie ME Mol. oa 

April 27th, 109. 

Mr, Frank L, Dyer, Vice President, é RE: ; 

APR 28 1yU9 

; Edison Manufacturing Co., Orange WU. J, 
Dear Sir:- ; 
Lumiere Filmi~ In reference to the Lumiere Tilm,..two tests have been 
made of it. The first one as I previously wrote you, was taken in alst, 
St., duplicating a scene in one of our pictures. The second one was 
at the request of the Lumiere representative, taken out doors. I am told 
that the ieee negative shows certain defects, which are described 
as looking like air bubbles. It was suggested by the Lumiere people, 
that we make further experiments, put I thought best to let you know 

as to what had been done thus far. 

Very truly yours, 
Edison Mfg. Co. 

sai ee ‘tment, 
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April 27,1909. 

My. Dyerie« 

in re. your memorandum lio. 502: ‘here are 
two points in Nr. Brasseur's work which appear to be of 
prime importance. ‘The first is the printing of a posi-~ 
tive from a negative. Ur. Brasseur's method is to use 
a mixture of lights of the three primary colors in the 
proper proportions. by his method he is able to obtain 
a positive print of a Lumiere negative on a Lumiere 
plate. This method of printing appears to be novel 
and more simple than any of which I am aware. lir. Brase 
seur assured Ir. Smith and myself this morning that he 
has a pending application oovering this method in the 
U.S. Patent Office, the claims of which have been re- 
jected on the ground that his method of printing was 
sohgeokedus thing to do. I believe, in the absence of 
any references, that the Office will not be able to 
maintain its position. There may be, however, other 
objections, but since tr. Brasseur has not given us a 
copy of this application (which, however, he has prom- 
ised to do at once), I cannot say how much protection 
he can ¢@ t. ; 

The second important principle is in the make 
ing of a color screen of the same material as the sup- 
port therefor, the color sereen being made integral 
with the support by direct union with it, without the 
use of any adhesives. itr. Brasseur has allowed claims 
covering this point already. = 

If Mr. Brasseur succeeds in producing colored 
photographs by the methods which he is now using, he 
would be able to prevent any one from making colored 
screens on any form of film, whether fire-proof or other- 
wise, in which the globules are rolled directly into the 
support. If he succeeds in getting any claims covering 
his apparently novel printing method, it would appear 
that he would be protected in the use of a very simple 
printing process, though, of course, it is possible that 
other means of printing can be devised. If we should 
decide to go ahend ourselves indepehi ently of lr. 
Brasseur, we would be obliged to at least avoid these 
two important points, which, on the face of things, 
appears rather difficult. 


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. } : ECEIVE heres \ 
Frank L. Dyer, Esq., a ENG 111909; 
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Vice-President & Gen'l. Counsel, © "El 

Edison Manufacturing Co., 
Orange, N. J. 
My dear Sir: 

Mr. Crosier and myself, will be at your of#:c 
fice on Wednesday morning of this week between ten 
and twelve o'clock, to take up with you practically 
and fully the new Crosier Safet, Machine, and the 

new Crosier Dissolving Shutter. 

Yours very truly, 

CHARLES L. BRASSEUR- _ m™. ;? = Tai. 
116 TREMONT AVENUE 19 oO 9 . 
ORANGE, N. J, : 

May 14, 1909. 

MAY 151909 



Frank L. Dyer, “Esq. ; 

Orange, Ii. J. 



P t0E 

liy dear lir. Dyer:- 
Would it be convenient for you to obtain, a few feet 
of the new Eastman non-infla:zmeable Silm,with or without the 
ermlsion. In ny attempts to increase the durability of colors 
Iowa3 .led to try what. the effect of denitrating the fin would 
have on the life of the color, and I find the result so encouraring 
that I would like, if possizle, to make comparative experiments 
with this new ill, 

duhauaking you in advance, I remain, 

Yours very truly, 



May 14, 1909. 

Mr. Soull:~ 

I hand you herewith copy of the Scientific 
American of May 15th, containing two articles on color 
Photography for motion pictures. Let me have a report 
as to your opinion of these articles. 




May 19,1909. 
Mr. Dyerse 

Your memo. No. 636. Nothing of interest in 
either of these articles. The first is merely a small 
camera, by which three small photographs x* taken through 
aitrerent filters are obtained on one Plate, so that it 
can afterwards be projected in a Lantern to be produced 
in color on a screen, . 

The second 28 an account of Urban experiments 
with the use of pictures projected alternately through 
aifferent colored soreens, the improvements being the 
use of two screens instead of three, in order to cut 
down the total number of pictures and the necessarily 
increased speed of taking. The effects obtained are 
not good, 



IO te 

wv ~ 

Ur, Scull: = 5/26/09, 

Reme:ber that you are to go out to Chicago this week, and I 
suggest, therefore, that you send out to Mr. Daniels a portion 
of the fireproof film in order that he can coat it, so that when 
you go out you can make tests of its fireproof qualities, or in 
other words, determine whether the celluloid coating will make it. 


Hay 26,1909. 

WeD. Daniels, Msq., 
Wational Vaterprocfing Company, 
2115 West Adams Strect, 
Chicago, Ill. 

Dear Girte 

vy assistant, Mr. Scull, will arrive in Chicago 
on the Pennsylvania Limited, on Friday morning, to look 
into the matter of the waterproofing process and the pa- 
tent applications, according to our agreement. We will 
probably be at your office sometime between 9 and 10 
o'clock in the morning, and of course 1 should like to. 
his investigation facilitated, so that he can return as 
goon ag possible. 

1 am sending by this mail a section of filn, 

part of which is on the new Rastman non-infygenmad Le stock, 
: Bal 

and I should Tike to have you cont this immediately on its 
receipt, so that it can be tested while lr. Scull is in 
Chicago, to determine whethen' or not the coating Ma ad= 
here® properly and also whether or not the film is rendered 
inflammable by the coating. 

Yours very truly, 

GYS/ARK. Vice-President. 

Mr. Holden: 6f./o9. 

I hand you herewith specifications and blue prints of 
application of B. I. Murdock relating to a projecting machine 
somewhat along the lines of our scheme. Look them over carefully 
and advise me whether you think the idea is worth further investi- 


Ene- at 

June 3, 1909 

Mr. Dyer: 

Replying to your memorandum No. 715. T have read 
over the specification of IM. Murdock in connection with the 
blue prints. The specification refers to additional figures, 
nanely, Figures 4 and 5, which are not shown in the blue prints, 
but I think I understand all that this inventor has in mind. 

The drawings are diagrammatic. The mechanical dif- 
ficulties of constructing a machine operating upon the princi- 
ples disclosed would be very great. 

The leading idea of the inventor seems to be to 
eliminate flickering by having a picture constantly wpon the 
screen, using mirrors to progressively illuminate one part of 
the film and simultaneously and progressively obscure another 
part of the film. In this particular sense the invention re-~ 
sembles that which we made several years ago, but it differs 
from this in that the pictures are not exhibited in the correct 
and proper order for producing the illusion of motion, as said 
motion actually took place, but the pictures are exhibited in 
an order like this: 5-4; 6-5; 7-6; 8-7; 9-8, etc, 

In the device of Figures 1 to 3, there is a direct 
illumination of the film from the source of light and the rays 
pass directly into the upper objective from the film. There 
would, therefore, be an image of the usual brightness upon 
the screen from the upper objective. The rays which pass 
through the lower objective, have, however, been reflected four 
times and the image on the screen from this objective would 

therefore be much less bright than from the first objective. 


The lower objective is for the purpose of producing an image 
while the film is traveling, the upper objective being for pro- 
ducing an image when the film is at rest. Possibly the images 
from the lower objective would be on the screen for shorter in- 
tervals than the brighter images, and hence owing to this and 
their comparative dimmess the fact of their being out of se- 
quence might not be so very noticéSe but I do not think so. 

The arrangement is such that when the film is travel- 
ing, the distance of the focal plane of the film from the ob-= 
jective ,measured along the path of light, diminishes, therefore 
it is necessary to move the objective Simultaneously with the 
film, This would seem to be a serious disadvantage and prob~ 
ably a fatal one as the travel of the objective would have to be 
such as not only to keep the fiim“in one focal plane, but the. 
screen in the other. This might be done for a screen ata 
given distance, but how would it work with a screen at a dif- 
ferent distance, for instance, twice as far from the objec- 
tive? The use of two objectives is also very objectionable, 

From the specification, however, I take it that in 
Figure 4, only one objective is used, and this could be done 
by placing the mirrors as shown in pencil in Figure 1. With 
this form of device, however, it would still be necessary to 
move the objective during the travel of the film to compensate 
for the variation in distance of the focal plane of the filn. 

In conclusion I would say that I do not consider the 
invention worth further investigation for the reason that the 
mechanical difficulties in getting up an operative machine would 


be much greater than in the case of our invention, ami even 
if an operative machine were obtained, it would not project 
the pictures in their proper sequence for reproducing the 
motions which actually occurred. It seems to me that the 
moving parts would jump back and forth ina very ludicrous 
manner if the pictures of the film were exhibited in the order 
suggested by this inventor. 

In other words, it seems to be Subject not only to 
all the disadvantages which might be present in our apparatus, 
but to additional disadvantages and difficulties, am if these 
could be successfully overcome the result would be merely the 
exhibition of pictures out of their proper sequence, which I 
should think would be anything but a natural reproduction of 

the scene which was photographed. 

DH/AMTL Fyttlars Ma Chew 

June 4,1909 

J. Walter Douglass, Esq., 

“610 North Anerican Building, 

Philadelphia, Pa. 
Yy dear Biri 

At li. Dyer's direction i have given 

considerpble attention to gthe device of Mr. Crosier, 
whi cli has been submitted to this Company, and have re- 
ported to Hr. Dyer. iy. Dyer directs me to say that we 

have found thut Kay, Crosier's device is very ingenius 

“and effective, but from a commercial standpoint it is 

one which this Company does not care to undertake to 
merket., It appears that there is probably more refine- 

ment in the device than the average moving picture theatre 

.or even a considerable number of them, would be willing 

to bother with or way for, and moreover, in a relatively 

short time the non-inflammable film will replace the 
inflammable. kind, and in such an event many of the fea- 
tures of the device will become practically useless. iin 
addition to the furegoing. it may be noted that at the 
present. time there is a campaign of education on to ine 
duce proprietors of moving picture shows to operate in 

a room sufficiently lighted to enable the reading of 

#2 J. Walter Douglass, Esq. 

large print. This is perfectly feasible and is being 
done in many theatres, and of course, when all theatres 
are thus equipped, the necessity for throwing on the 
house lights when the machine stops will be largely ob- 

Mr. Dyer wishes me to thank you for having 
submitted the device to him for hig inspection. 

Yours very truly, 

CFS/ARK . Assistant to Vice-President. 


i pa ie eee 

BRISBANE 4th June. 1909 
. eed ase) 
Lore LWESO% Seppe an Case€ , 

peo afte Prede + nlraBeuced or 
Dear Mr, Edison, : tt Oo. C erik = 
ssibly ee r oe ae & Llettez some 
é eu S8--a., 

You pma; 

fourteen or Liffeen aN ago “from a, tu Prapent ereg te Guy's Hospi 

ites Atom LAD 
ing oly vise i “4 one may noving siotures 
Ch41a. aa NG A 
Eat oh, Pind’s your Kinetosoope machines 

(penny in the slo were attracting much wane pas Gis 
London. ae Oo Lad Her mtr oo 

elke Laser 2. 
The idea occudsed to me , (4 U @ clinical lecture at Guy's 

Hospital on tar >» a8 & means of Di gabein®) thot if the moving 

oar = Teehwrent urbe dh 
Gee Oy one a ab e Kine: oscopée- 

en. eee Pe aae @undeay or 
could be thrown dn & screen, as jin the ase of a Lante 

: Clenz Tt. a oe ary Ive ankle, co. ena Cu, 
picture, sO many unites of persons would be ey oes, to; view it 

Q@outeat” ee. ha ah Ge er Be Pee Orne 
at the on Pane e I (if you will lpardon,a Catpee ae the ego-~ 
ate Ge, Une oA we 
tistical Wirst person) wrotte ae ok on +t ere and eet 
pee ee ta! oS 
out the inning ‘aivan f) a rrengement ery “be over ge 
wevlle rg, 
old method of oxtibiting the picture. a. 
To my letter your manager at Orange kindly Pere 

that no apparatus had up to that date been devised whereby the 

London, sae! 

on to a ei) 

picture- a 


moving picture could be thrown upon a screen, but that “experi~ 
ments would be made in that direction and if successful I 
should be again communicated with. I may say that I never 
heard from you again , but some considerable time afterwards the 
"Cinematograph" was exhibited at the’ Empire Theatre in London. 

I take the liberty of mentiongiq the above merely as an excuse 

for a suggestion, which I feel sure, Sir, you will pardon my . 

ritig, to f phe, Stfaot thes he "Gtuenotogrerh”, 

“Biogreph} or es . 

pe he Se ee 

potentialities as an Educator in our Schools and Colleges - 
educational, technical ond medical. 

“Moving pictures" as a source of amusement can be found in 

every city and town throughout Australie, but are practically 
unknown as an established method of education, 

I understand that quite recently the fields of Science, Medicine, 
Bacteriology, ote., have been explored for ‘subjects, and some 
very inatrustive and interesting Films secured as a consequences 
Should you know where such Films could be purchased may I ask 
the great favour of being furnished with the address of the 

maker 2 
Faithfully Yours, . 
LL om 
qT OP, 

Commissioner of Public Health for Queensland. 

Thos. Ae Edison. Hsq., 
Lakeside Avenue. 

Orv 9€, New Jersey. UeSede 








Vora 519 


June 5, 1909, 

BG. DT. Murdock, HSqey 
: tribune Building, 
New York City... 

My dear Mr, Murdock: 
, Your favor of the 2nd inst. was duly received 
in reference to your application for a method and machine for pro-~ 
ducing moving pictures.  T referred the matter to my assoblate, 
iff, Holden, who has given considerable thought to the problem of 
redoing flicker, and‘he has made quite a full report, in whi ch, | 
after discussing various objections that he sees. in your sohmie, 
he says: . . _ = ; 

"In conclusion I would say that I do not consider. the’ 4nven~ 
tion worth further investigation, for the season that the nechani~ 
cal getting up an operative machine Will. be very 

great, and even if an operative machine were obtained, it would 
not project pictures in their proper sequence for reproducing the 

motions which actually occur. It seema to mo that the moving 

parts would jump back and forth in a very ludicrous manner if the 
pilotures of the film were exhibited in the order suggested by the 
inventor, ! ; : - nee 

I therefore beg to return the application papers herewith: 

and thank. you very much for bringing the matter. to my attention. 

Yours very truly, 

BLD /Tww . Oo " Vhoe~President. 
Eno~ * i &, : 


) JUN Nagg9 
FRANK L. Br &, 


June 17th, 1909. 

Mr, He G@. Plimpton: 

After making several tests of the new Eastman 
negative and positive film, we found the speed, quality and action 
during the course of operation is about the same as our present film, 
The texture of the stock is much harder and not so flexible and do 
not think it will stand the. wear:ard tear as our old, but this can 
only be determined by time. We also at the same time made conpara= 
tive tests of the Lumiere negative and positive, the negative proved 
to be equally as good in every reqpect, as the Eastman. The positive 

is not so clear and brilliant as the positive we are now using, 

(Signed) E. S. Porter. 



Nr. Weber: 



In a conversation yesterday with Mr. Waters of the 
Kinetograph Co., he stated that considerable trouble was exe 
perienced with films, on account of poor joints made by outside 

people, principally by picture machine o 

a film came apart, would rejoin it by simply Slapping on a 
little cement and holding the two ends together with their 

fingers, instead of using a film joiner, wetaee : 
He also pointed out that the cost of. the film joiner which 
great many people would not buy it, 
a cheaper joiner, ‘something to List 

we list was so high that a 
whereas if we could set out 


perators, who, in case. 

at $2.50 or $3.00, he thought one could b@ sold. to almost every 

exhibitor in the country. 

Won't you please look into this 
inexpensive joiner cannot be devised. 


fers kexkieax 
Copy to Mr. Dyey% 



a ae 

C.-H. We 


and see if a simple and 

SEP 15 1909 



ORANGE, N. 3, 

Sept. 14, 1909, 

Frank L. Dyer, Isq. 
Dear Sir:= 

As I told you in my last interview with you, just 
before you sailed, one of the difficulties to be overcome was the 
cementing together of the celluloid pieces when use is made of 
flowed filn as distinguished from cut film. The completion of i 
the cutting machines made the immediate solution of this problem 
one of vital importance. 

In the trade cementing is of daily occurrence, but the 

sheets so cemented are cut of green or fresh stock in'a veneering 
machine. Not having one of these, I had to look around for ways 

to overcome the difficulty, and after being; non-plussed for some 

weeks, am glad to say that I have finally found a solution of the 

What happens, apparently, when using flowed film is, 
thet with the slow drying of the film, the more volatile elements 
such as camphor, etc. evaporate and leave a hard, non-plastic sur~ 
face and it follows that when, as in my case, wou use a film 1/800" 
thick, this film is practically. made up of two non-plastic surfaces 
which it is impossible to cement to other like surfaces. 

Having hit upon the cause, the remedy was obvious, and I 
have now succeeded in cementing three sheets together and obtaining 
therefrom triple threads, i.e. threads of three colors. I still 
Bave to study the dosing a little more and to find the amount of 

heat and pressure which will just weld them together without mixing 

I have had extra sensitive gauges put on the boiler, 



on the press and on the cutting machine, and have put on steam 
traps where necessary, all for the purpose of deternining with 
great precision the best working conditions, 

As to the thread cutting machine, we have received the 
imported steel. Lo my regret, it is not up to expectations as to 
thickness, but on lir. Wilson's advice have accepted it rather than 
wait three months more for a thinner lot. ‘the manufacturers have 
been very decent about the matter and have asked me to name my ovm 
price for what I could use, which matter is now the subject of cor- 
respondence, I have enoujh thin steel to mount two inches of discs 
at 800 per inch, and this will be done as soon as the rolled Gernan 
silver is received. this could not be ordered before we knew ex- 
actly what the thickness of the steel was, but it will be ready in 
@ very few days. . 

The cross-cutting machine was delivered a month ago. 
New gears, of a different ratio have had to be put in to enable it 
to cut 1/1000". I have had a steam box fitted to it so as to be 
able to use it for veneer cutting or for cross cutting the threads. 
It will cut a section about one inch square, about the size of a 
moving picture, and I hope to be able to cut blocks made up of com- 
pressed tri-color threads without any trouble. A new brake is 
still to be fitted,as the original one gave a certain amount of 
back lash, which, on such a thickness, 1/1000", was a cause of af, 

preciable irregularity. The makers claim to be able to do. away 

with this altogether, 


P.O. D8. 

As to the photographis emulsion which I had intended 
having done in St. Louis, I have concluded to do it myself and 
have fitted up a dark room for it. It will save considerable 
uoney to do thisand ‘while-Tmay not be able to met extremely sensi- 
tive emulsion, it will be easy, by comparing, mine with that now in 
the market to allow for this difference. 

The light concentrating lens has been received and works 
admirably. It will enable me to print color films quite as quickly 
as black and white are now printed. I have not yet been able to . 
agree with my lens grinder as to a formula. for a supplementary 
lens to enable me to use it for projection purposes. I am anxious 
to do this if it be at all possible to make the corrections within 
the allowable limits of error, as it give an absolutely even il- 
lunination of the field, put I need a little more time and quiet to 
compute the curves. 

Taken all in all, I think that all the different ele- 
ments have been pretty well worked out. have to assemble 
them, which ought not to take long, a matter of very few weeks. 

I think that in a couple of weeks it will be worth while coming 
over, out I should glad in the meantime to show you at your con- 
venience some of my triple threads under a microscope. 

Yours very truly, 

Ghile  tlasices, 

Ti ° 

' SEP 161999, | 


tat sellers Of bors. ey ee 
RAZ 4 oa VA LEC. Bejbort. Ll21, 2a 
Vide PO Del 211 L071 Ce 

OB Cie 

Octower 7th, 1909, 

Mr, Hdisont- 

Regarding the attached cirouler 6f the 
Naturel Color Kinenatograph Company, Ltd., I beg to 
advise you that the scheme consists in taking pictures 
through successive color soreens which are rotated 
in front of the objective, and reproduction is effected 
in the same way. This means that the films are two or 
three times as long as at present. You triad the same 
scheme some time wngo. It is olearly impracticable, be- 
cause it would mean that colored films vould cost from 
two to tizree times av inuch us at present. While even 
with so expensive on arrangement as making stenelig like 
Like, the edded cost is less thon 30%. Furthermore, the 
results are very poor. I saw one of the picturos in 
London, and it was not to be compared with the Pathe 



Adresse Télégr: EDIPHON~ PARIS MARQUE » 

COE LiceeR 


Q Edison. = 


ORANGE,E,U.A, Mg Tangae Ew LFLOILO,: ey 




Entrée des Marchandises 
42, Rue de Paradis , 42 
Commercial idison GG. Z L November 13th 1909 19 
Frank L. DYHR, Hsq., 5 

Edison Manufacturing do. 

ORANGE (N.J.) ma 

Dear Mr. Dyer, " wr, 
Mr. Desbriére has just perfected a new picture taking appa- 
ratus which is in many points supposed to be superior to the exist— 
ing cameras. 

A prospectus is in preparati:m, but not yet printed. The ..° 

only printed matter available are the enclosed two sheets of illus— 
trations. APs also enclosed typewritten descriptions in F¥ench. 

I have no doubt that this information will be of interest to you. 

Very truly yours, 

The National Phonograph do. Ltd. 

: ae panda need ie 

General Manager. 









Sreveté France & Etranger 

Cet appareil construit sur des prineipes nouveaux différe 
entiérement de tous ceux existant, tant en son mécanisme, qu’en 
sa forme. 

Cet appareil est d’un volume réduit, ee qui est un tras 
grand avantage, puisqu'il n’est guere plus gros qu’un appareil 
déteetive 9x12 et environ 4 fois moins volumineux que le 
plus petit des appareils exiatants : Ses dimensions sont: 
hauteur 19 e/m, longueur 26 e/m, largeur 14 e/m. 

De ce fait, son poids se trouve réduit dans les mémes 
proportions et il ne pése en ordre de marche que 5 kilogs, malgré 
que son mécaniame soit excessivement résistant. 

Ce qui a permis de faire cet appareil aussi peu volumineux ; 
e’est la disposition ingénieuse de ses 2 boites magasin, qui, 
au lieu d’étre placées, soit 1’une au-dessus de l’autre, soit 
a l’exterieur de l'appareil, soit fixées ecdte a cdte A Vintérieur 
de l’appareil, en ménageant entre elles un espace juste néces- 
Saire pour y loger tout le méeanisme. L’axe de la manivelle 
passe au travers des deux boites magasin (par le centre) sur 
eet arbre sont calées les deux frietions d’enroulement de la 
bande, qui elles-mémes passent dans les moyeux de cea deux 
boftes. Les boites magasin sont en alluminium et de forme ronde, 
ne tenant ainsi que la place strictement nécessaire at de poids 
tres léger, La boite magasin est évidée au centre ainsi que son 
eouverele pour permettre le logement du moyeu de bois sur lequel 

ast enroulée et s’enroule la pellicule. 


Le tirage de la pellieule est faite par des eriffes 
commandé par un bouton excentrique donnant un mouvement d’avan- 
cement ne détériorant nullement la pellicule que] qu’en soit 
le pas. 

La disposition des griffes, permet d’obtenir des images 
dont la séparation se place & volonté dans toutes les posi- 
tions du centre du trou a entre deux trous. La pellieule est 
débitée par deux rouleaux débiteurs, plaeés un en haut a gauche 
l’autre fr bas a droite, 

Tous les organes du mécanisme sont manceuvrés de l’exté- 
rieur, tous les appareils de contréle et d’indication de marche 
sont eneastrés dans le bois ainsi rien ne dépasse, ce qui 
permet de transporter trés facilement l'appareil sans géne 
d’aueune sorte, et sans craindre d’abimer aucun organe extérieur. 

C’est appareil est muni des derniers perfectionnements et 
il répond & toua les besoins de la cinématographie actuelle 
quel que soit le genre de vue que l’on prenne (actualité, voyage 
thédtre, scénes & trucs). 

],’appareil comporte : visible et accessible de l’extérieur 
et entierement dissimulé: 

Sur l’avant l’objeetif (dont nous reparlerons plus loin) 
et un indicateur d’obturation lequel permet de régler 1l’ouver- 
ture de l’obturateur, sans rien ouvrir ou toucher A la boite 
de l’appareil, il suffit pour eela de tourner un bouton (dans 
le sens convenable ) portant deux plateaux gradués qui indiquent 
l’ouverture exaecte et un blane correspondant a l’angle d’ouver- 
ture donne 1’obturateur. 

Par ce proeédé ont peut trés facilement ouvrir ]’obturateur 
en grand ou le fermer complétement, chose qui nécessitait dans 
tous les appareils existants, l’ouverture de la bofte ee qui 
était toujours une manceuvre trés onéreuse et une perte de 

tempa appréciable. 


En-dessus de l’objectif et en-dessous se trouvent placés 
deux boutons servant a l’ouverture de la bofte (dont nous 
donnerons les détails tout a l’heure). Sur la face gauche de 
J’appareil (vu de l’objeectif) se trouve le plateau & queue 
d’hironde dane lequel coulisse la manivelle qui, par ce procédé 
se régle en longueur suivant la volonté de l’opérateur et cela 

Sur la face droite se trouve encastré le viseur, comportant 
des caches réglables suivant les divers objectifs. 

Sur la face arriére se trouve placé de haut en bas, un 
métreur, muni de 2 aiguilles 1’une indiquant le nombre d’ images, 
l’autre le nombre de métres (ou de feet), les deux aiguilles 
se ramenent 4 zéro A l'aide d’un seul bouton. 

Un tube de mise au point passant entre les deux boites 

Un poinegon de reperage perforant un trou en-dessous de 
l'image photographiée. 

Un niveau de précision. 

Un bouton de changement de marche qui permet sans rien 
changer sur la nanivelle de faire donner a celle-ci, soit 
8 images par tout soit une seule et cela en tirant simplement 
ce bouton. 

Un indieateur de vitesse, indiquant exactement la vitesse 
a laquelle marche l’appareil,. 

Cet indicateur de vitesse est aectionné par un régulateur 
formant volant qui régularise d’une fagon parfaite la vitesse 
de l'appareil. 

L’appareil peut indifféremment dévider la bande, soit en 
avant, soit en arriére, sans pour cela avoir a changer quoi que 
ee soit, il suffit de tourner la manivelle, soit & gauche, soit 
a droite, la pelliecule s’enroulant automatiquement dans les 

deux sens. 


L’objectif contrairement a4 la plupart des appareils se 
trouve fixé directement aprés la partie métallique de l’appareil 
au moyen de 4 colonnes. L'objectif et l’obturateur sont montés 
tous deux sur la méme plaque qui peut a l’aide d’un seul 
bouton (bouton de dessus de l’objectif, sur la partie avant) 
pivoter pour permettre de placer librement la pellicule et de 
la remettre ensuite instantanéement et rigoureusement a la méme 

I] est possible de monter sur cet appareil tous les objec- 
tifs existants depuis le foyer 35 jusqu’au plus grand sang 

Les objectifs sont montés a monture hélicoidale et munis 
d’une pare a soleil se plaquant contre ta boite selon le désir 
de 1’opérateur. 

La boite est en noyer verni au tampon, eollé ‘en 5 épaig- 
seurs par un procédé spécial permettant a celle-ci de supporter 
la chaleur, le froid et l’humidité sans déformation d’aucune 

Catte boite contrairement a tous les appareils existants 
ne sert que de couverture au mécanisme, aucune piece sauf lag 
deux boutons d’ouverture de cette boite ne sont fixés dessus, 
ee qui permet méme par déformation de la boite, de ne rien 
fausser dans l’appareil proprement dit. 

La courroie pour tenir cet appareil a la main, placée 
sur le dessus, ainsi que l’écrou pour la fixation sur le Pied, 
sont fixés 4 l’intérieur et sur la partie métallique de 
l’appareil, ne faisant ainsi nullement corps avee la boite,. 

Toutes les piécea encastrées dans la boite (objectif, 
niveau, métreur, indicateur de vitesse, ete... ete...) fond 

joint & l’aide d’un joint ad hoe avee eelle-ci. 


L’ouverture de la boite s’opére pour placer la pellicule, 
en tournant d’un quart de tour, le bouton placé au-dessus 
de l’objectif dans la face avant. En tournant, ce bouton 
ouvre quatre verrous placés 4 l’intérieur des colonnes et fixant 
trés rigidement celles-ci entre elles. De catte fagon la plaque 
de l'’objectif se trouve détachée du mécanisme et permet alors 
seulement de faire pivoter autour de la charniére placee au- 
dessus de la boite, toute la partie avant, qui entraine dans 
son mouvement de rotation, l’objectif et l’obturateur, déedgeent 
ainsi toute ih partie centrale (canal et volet) permettant de 
placer facilement la pelliecule. 

En ouvrant la partie avant, celle-ci dégage automati- 
quement les deux parties latérales pour le libre passage des 
boites magasin. 

Pour remettre l’objectif en place et refermer la boite 
il auffit de rabaisser la partie avant dans Sa premiére 
position et de tourner le méme bouton d@’un quart de tour en sens 
contraire. L’objectif se replacant mathématiquement a la méme 
place, et la commande de 1’obturateur s’enchassant de méme, 
le verrou extérieur en tournant referme les 4 verrous, qui 
rendent le tout parfaitement rigide, 

Si l’opérateur désire vérifier la marche de son appareil, 
lorsque l’obturateur et l’objectif sont placés dessus i] n’a 
qu’aé tourner le bouton inférieur d’un 1/2 tour. En tournant, ce 
bouton, dégage la partie avant, mais seulement la partie en 
bois, qui de méme que tout a l'heure pivote autour de 8a 
charniére supérieure et ouvre les deux portes latérales, 
laissant ainsi tout le mécanisme entiérement visible et 
jaissant l’objeetif et l’obturateur dana leurs positions de 
travail. Pour refermer il suffit de faire ]'opération 



Pour mettre en place la pellicule on tourne le bouton 
supérieur pour ouvrir la partie avant avec l’objectif. 

On place, la boite magasin contenant le film vierge, 
sur le c6té gauche de 1l’appareil et cela en la poussant 
simplement sans la fixer. On passe sur le rouleau supérieur le 
bout sortant de la boite, en lui faisant enauite décrire une 
boucle. Apres avoir ouvert le volet, on la passe dans le 
canal qui est un parallélogramme et l'on referme le volet. 
Ensuite l’on fait décrire une bouecle a la pellieule de méme 
que celle supérieure et on la passe sur le rouleau denté 
inférieur; aprés avoir introduit la 2@me boite magasin 4 sa 
place sauf le couverecle, on rentre la pelliecule a l'’intérieur 
par le eété et on referme le couverele. La pellicule étant 
mise en place, il ne reste plus qu’a fermer le devant, comme 
e’est indiqué plus haut. Toutes ces opérations étant faites 
il n’y a plus qu’a filmer. 

Ce qui permet 4 cet appareil une marche réguliére trés 
douce, c’est le fini de sa construction. 

Tous les engrenages sont a4 denture hélicoxydale taillée 

Tous les axes, tous les coussinets, sont en acier fondu, 
trempé et reetifié 

La denture des engrenages est trempée, rendant ainsi 
l’usure relativement nulle, et de ce fait tout déreglage impos- 

Les platines de l’appareil aont en maillchort toutes les 
autres piéces en acier dur. 

Sa fabrication est tres soignée, sa mise au point des 
plus rigoureuses. 

Toutes les piéeesa de l'appareil sont interchangeables 

eelles-ci étant eonstruites en séries, avee un matériel spécial 

et des machines-outils de haute precision, ce qui 


permet de 

pouvoir livrer ces appareile avee un fini irréprochable et 4 

des prix défiant toute concurrence, pour les services 


ciables rendus par ces appareils con¢us pour tous les besoins 

de la cinématographie. 

En plus cet appareil, par sa construction, et la concep- 

tion de son mécanisme donne une fixité et une netteté absolues, 

L’appareil pour la commodité de son transport se met 

dans un sac en jolie maroquinerie noir permettant de le porter 

soit a la main, 

“soit a l’épaule, ou sur le dos. 

En un mot, cet appareil est l'appareil idéal pour les 


les explorateura et 1’amateur (connaissant 

déja la cinématographie) et leur permettra de faire ee qu’il 

était impossible de faire avee les appareils existants vu son 

faible volume et son faible poids le faisant prendre 

appareil de photographie ordinaire, 

En résumé 

ses principales caractéristiques qui en 

appareil supérieur sont: 

Son volume restreint, 

Son faible poids, 

Sa marche 

douce et silencieuse, 

Sa rigidité, 

Sa manipulation excessivement simple, 

Sa construction soignée, 

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Mr. Jameson: 3 11/18/o9. 
Regarding the Lumiere film referred to in the attached 

memorandum, I wish you would make a wear test of a section of this 

film by running it through a machine to see how it. compares with the 

Eastman film. Also have a small section of the Lumiere film 




November ,17th. 1909. 

Mr. Byer ;~ 
In reference to the attached letter,regarding lumiere non- 

inflammble film,I have made the test as per instructions. 
‘Any time you care to see this film,we have it in good shape 

to show youe 


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LYONS (France) 81-33 EAST 27TH STREET LONDON (Enatane) 
NEw YORK, 1909. 

Mr. Dyer, -: 

c/o The Edison Oo., 
Orange, N. J. 

My dear Mr. Dyer:- 

I have sent you by express prepaid a roll 
of Lumiere non~inflammable filme. I enclose you herewith a 
copy of instructions as to handling same. I trust that you 
will give them a good trial, and that you will find them satis- 

Yours very truly, 

ge | 




This is done by exactly the same method as for the or- 
dinary Infhammable Pilm, but it is preferable that the perforation 

be done from the emulsion side. 

These films being thicker than the ordinary films, it is 
necessary that great care be observed while printing so that per- 

fect contact with the negative film may be had. 


The developing is done on a frame or roller with the 
formula mentioned below, washing and rinsing as for ordinary films. 
After fixing, wash in several changos of water, and observe that 
the time in each washing bath should not exceed 15 or 20 aiwdtes. 
After these washings, submit the film to a 5% Glycerine Bath for 
ten minutes. The total time for developing, fixing, washing and 

, glycerining should not exceed a half hour. . 

So that the films will present a pleasing aspect, and to 
avoid shrinkage, it is necessary that the drying process be a very 
slow one. It is necessary to let the film dry in the ordinary 
temperature of the room without setting the air in motion, so that 
the drying will last at least twelve hours. By observing this pre~- 
caution, you will obtain a film without contraction or shrinkage. 

After complete desication of the film, separate the collo-~ 
dion support from the inflammable film by winding the latter on a 4 

reel, and gently peeling from the collodion Support. The slightest 



resistence experienced in this process of separation proves that 
the desicatian is not complete. . 

fo each extremity of the strip of film glue a piece 
of paper so that the film can be duly attached to the projecting 

Keep the film in tin boxes hermetically Bealed, so that 

they may not be influenced by atmospheric variations. 


Water : 1000 ¢.c. 
Metol 5 gr. 
Hydroquinone gr 

. § 3 
Sulphite of Soda(Anhyd.) 50 gr. 
Carbonate of Potash(Anhyd) 30 ar. 
Bromide of Potash 1 gr. 


Stock Solution 30 C. CG. 
Water 70 #C. C6. 

Form 539, 


Dec. 6, 1909, 

Mr. J. @. Brulatour, 
SLT. 27th St., 
New York City. 
My dear Mr. Brulatour: 

. In accordance with your request of November 
2th We had a print made of the Lumiere non-~inflammable film and it 
was tested, but we found its wearing qualities were very poor; in 
fact, the sprocket holes tore out so quickly that unless this film 
is materially strengthened I do not see the slightest hope for its 

successful use in the moving picture field. 

Yours very truly, 

PLD/TWW Vice-President. 


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‘The Greatest Advance in the History of Kinematography” 


Urban-Smith Patents 

As Exhibited by Command Before Their Majesties 

The King and Queen of England 

and now forming the principal features at the 


Royal Society of Arts, London 

Sir Henry Trueman Wood said: “A very valuable addi- | 
tion to the list of photographic inventions. ... The audi- i 
ence must feel they were highly privileged to be present 
on the very first occasion that such marvelous results of { 
patient industry and remarkable talent had been set be- 
fore the public. .. .” H 




“An important forward movement was recorded at the Palace in the art of the kinematograph. 
to The date is likely to become historical; certainly the perfecting of a process which has for a con- 
siderable number of years engaged the attention of everyone interested in the development of bioscopic 
pictures, is an event of very real importance. . . . As yesterday afternoon's performance proved, the 
Tesults are of the most beautiful and amazingly realistic description. 

“Nothing could have been more exquisite, nothing more exact in fidelity to nature, nothing more 
striking than these. Scene followed scene, each glowing with light, colour and animation, A field of yellow 
corn, bathed in the softened light of a summer evening, with youthful gleaners in picturesque costume fol- 
lowing the reaping machines, stood out as a little masterpiece, while a flock of sheep penned up in a meadow 
gave so faithful an impression of the original that one felt that one had only to stretch out the hand in order 
to touch them. All these testified by their extraordinary realism, and by the brilliancy of their tints, to 
the success of the new process. which may confidently be relied on to attract and fascinate the 
public by the beauty and novelty of its presentment.” 

TIMES, rondon. 

“Here it may be emphasized that the process is a true colour photography. . . . The repro- 
ductions are extraordinarily successful—as, for example, the sheen on a horse’s back or on the varnished 
body of a boat, or the grey of a donkey's coat, grey being a notoriously difficult hue to deal with in colour 
photography . enabled the audience to realise to what an extent the addition of colour enhances 
the effectiveness of animated photographs.” 

DAILY MAIL, London. 
“Surprised and delighted an audience invited to witness them. 
exhibited showed the tests to which the process had been put. ot 
‘Some exquisite pictures evoked loud applause. Various scenes photographed as recently 
as Sunday last on the French Riviera showed some wonderful colour effects, so beautifully tinted that one 
was not surprised to hear it claimed for this new Kinematography that it will revolutionise motion picture 

MORNING POST, yondon. 

“And it seemed wonderful. . The house was crowded. A great variety of scenes 

was shown. . . . In the twinkling of an eye it was secn that colour photography was an accomplished 
fact, and one settled down to wonder no more, but to enjoy the results.” 


“Guests were numerous enough to fill the Palace from floor to ceiling, and their enthusiastic ap- 

lause was accorded to an achievement which is more remarkable than anything which has been shown 
here «. « the results are amazingly successful, 

“It remains only to say that moving figures, breaking waves, motor boats, sailing boats (in one of 

which was seen the moving light on the keel as the boat hecled over) were all beautifully shown in vivid 
and approximately real colours.” 


.._, Messrs. Charles Urban and Albert Smith placed before a deeply interested audience a veritable 
pictorial feast, consisting of a score of views—flowers and figures, sea and coast, marching troops and car- 
nival scenes at Nice and Cannes. The natural colours of the breaking waves, of the landscapes and animal 
life, of boat-races and humorous situations, of people, single and in ‘groups, were marvelously vivid and of 
unquestionable veracity. . . . Each picture won applause. .. . A ve beautiful presentment, 
called ‘Sweet Flowers’ was shown in its natural hues and tints, and a more assertive specimen of animated 
colour photography could not be imagined. 

; “It need hardly be added that everything projected on the screen is in colour, even to the narrow 
line on a boat or a necktie, and that the tone which dominates most of the Pictures has a distinct tendency 
to warmth and luminosity. oer 7 


“To capture Nature in all her beautiful colours, and to be able to Present her to an audience by 
means of the joscope is a feat which has been at last successfully accomplished, and.the many who at- 
tended the Palace Theatre yesterday were unstinted in their admiration ani praise of the new Kinemacolor 
pictures shown by the Urban-Smith process. oo 

“By the new style every detail and every colour shade is perfectly presented. For instance, the 
murch of a regiment was accurately portrayed; the uniforms and accoutrements were most realistic. An- 
other picture showed the waves breaking on the shore, with all the natural tints and colours; seascapes, 
panoramas of land and sca were just like the real thing. The children’s battle of flowers at Nice on Sun- 

od pe was one of the best shown; whilst the water carnival at Villefranche gave some remarkable colour 

The variety of pictures 

“A decided and advanced step was registered by this patent, and one which will revolutionise bio- 
scope entertainments,” . oie i : 

REFEREE, London. 
“It is enough for me to say that Urban and Smith have apparently achieved the impossible. The 
results are indeed marvellous, hatever the scene, there was good old Nature true to her colours all the 

time. A wonderful show indeed.” 


“It is queer to find Nature confessing to a machine the truth of the painter's intuition. In general, 
the chief effect of the new colour process was to give Kinematograph pictures for the first time a stereoscopic 
effect. Water, too, which is always woolly, even in the best of the old style of film, comes out really liquid 
and translucent.” : 

OBSERVER, London. 

“A novel scientific invention which has revolutionised the art of the life-motion photographer, and 
must immeasurably increase the enjoyment of his work by its admirers. Seen at once to be a huge 
practical success,"" 


“There were brought before the eyes of the audience, fresh from London's damp streets on a bitter 
winter's day, the West Bier at Brighton, bathed in pleasant summer sunshine, with its crowd of brightly 
dressed promenaders; the Brighton beach, with its animation and bustle; gay carnival scenes under the 
unbroken blue sky of Nice and Cannes; the rich beauty of the Riviera coast; trim sailing yachts, with dipping 
white sails and busy crews, cutting through green water; angry waves dashing themselves in white fury 
over great rocks; the reapers active among the yellow corn, and many other scenes imbued with the glow 
and animation of life in many places. . The pictures are beautifully smooth, and there is a total 
absence of glare.” 

TRUTH, London. 

“T fancy that the new pictures at the Palace Theatre will create something in the way of a revolution 
in Bioscope entertainments. We have long heard about inventions which would enable these living pic- 
tures to be seen in their natural colours, but here is the real thing — very marvellous. I am not 
going to attempt to describe how it is done, but the effects are charming. . . . In every case you have 
sunlight and colour, combined with a steadiness which is not always present in Kinematograph shows. I 
fancy Kinemacolor will prove a very deadly rival to all other forms of living photographs. 


“The veritable hues of Nature are reproduced with astonishing accuracy, and with a delicacy and 
crispness which no amount of hand-tinting by the elementary process of brush colouring could have ac- 

VANITY FAIR, London. - A oe! 

“The pictures are astonishingly beautiful, and are sure to prove a powerful attraction. 


“Magnificent in their brilliance, steadiness and apparent general truth tocolour, . . . All were 
brilliantly sharp and full of good detail and colour right into the shadows. 

GLASGOW RECORD, ¢cotland. 

“An abundant success, and a remarkable advance on the artificial tinting method. . . . The 
effects constitute quite a revolution against all theories concerning photogs hy in colours, ‘ 
waving Stuart tartan plaid was shown so convincingly as to call forth a burst of cheering, . . . Somesea 
scenes with spray effects around the rocks were remarkable, and, in a sailing boat scene, the glint of sun- 
shine on the yellow varnish of the boat gave one a most satisfying feeling of realism. . . . Showed con- 
clusively what a tremendous advance this is on anything hitherto known or dreamt of in the mind of the 


“As the audience at the Royal Society of Arts saw for themselves, the two-colour method proved 
itself capable of giving a range of colours equal to that of a three-colour process. . . . Most convincing 
and beautiful demonstrations.” 

NATURE, London. 
: “The results were excellent. . . . Surprisingly successful.” 

, “Extraordinary results. Colour kinematographs are an accomplished fact.” 
STATESMAN, Calcutta, 

“Something in the nature of a revelation. . A notable advance. . . . All tones and 
shade gradations are observed, and there is‘an entire lack of crudeness about the pictures. 

“Absolute mechanical and artistic perfection.” 


. i ‘ . ‘ rT ib- 

“From an educational point of view, particularly for the teaching of Nature study and similar su 
jects, the movin: representation of bird, animal and insect life in natural colours, Hinentacoles a! mark 
as distinct an advance as that which marked the advent of the ordinary moving picture itse os 

“The striking results obtained should promise a speedy commercial introduction of the system.’ 
“All the colours of Nature, from the boldest to the tenderest.” 



“Perfectly successful. . . . The films displayed complete fidelity to natural colour, even the 
reds coming out true to nature.” 

“Reproduced the colours of nature with extraordinary fidelity.” 

“Crowned with success. . . ~ Pronounced perfect and marvellous. . . . Aroused great 
enthusiasm, both in London and Paris, . . . Wonderful effects." 


“A wonderful demonstration. . . . The scenes exhibited were superb in their expression of 
tints and tones, demonstrating the fact that the process has mastered the most complex and difficult prob- 
lems of colour photography. ~. . . A marvellous exhibition. 

“The varying tints were beautifully brought out,” 

“One was forced to the conclusion that the ais of black-and-white kinematograph records are 
numbered, The pictures were quite surprisingly excelfent." 


“The King's gracious comment Avas that the pictures were ‘very good indeed.’ At the conclusion 
of the show His Majesty warmly complimented the Kkinematograph colour experts on the excellence of the 
results attained by the new process,” 


“The exhibition convinced me that when the public have become accustomed to seeing their animated 
pictures in natural colours, they will never be able to g0 back again to the photographs that are colourless,” 

T. P’s WEEKLY, London. 
“At once convincing and beautiful." 

.__,, "The demonstration given yesterday with complete success is of the greatest interest for the immense 
majority of the public. . . . “The process will entirely revolutionise the kinematograph industry.” 

L'ARGUS, Paris. 

“We have to congratulate Mr. Smith on the masterly manner in which he has overcome so complex a 
problem. . . . He has entered on the path of success, and. he has our best wishes for a brilliant result.” 


“In yesterday's exhibition we had the Opportunity of convincing ourselves of the natural living 
efficiency of this undertaking.” 


“Tasteful and carefully chosen subjects. . , _: _An enormous progress in the development of 
colour photography. . . .° Glorious colouring, particularly successful in the sea pieces and the rep- 
resentation of our Carnival Procession, Received with tremendous applause.” 


: “Kinemacolor, as if by magic, throws the most delightful pictures upon the screen. Light and 
shade are beautifully presented, as well as the most delicate tints of colour.’ 


“Most beautifull colour and_ brilliant technique. . . . First class colour shading. . . 
Colours developed themselves blamelessly.” 

DIE LIGHTBILD-BUINE (Technical Trade Journal), Berlin. 

“The continuous character of the pictures which arises from the development of both individual 
films, and the complete absence of the Fooling movement which is to attributed to the blending; lends to 
these pictures an absolutely true vividness ani gives a presentment of quite unique beauty. One does 
not feel that one is only secing a photographic presentment of an event; but as a matter of fact, one is an 
actual witness,”” 


“The invention shows an enormous stride in the progress of photography in natural colours.’ 
: “It was fascinating to see the play of light and shade in the beautifully chosen pictures. Exceed- 
ingly successful and true to nature.” 

“It was the play of light which made the colours live, and gave their worth to every shade. A 
living crimson.” 

The marvellous results recently exhibited in Europe will be introduced in America for the first time a 


TER TR Ama 28a a me — A re am “ ae 

Form 539, ; 
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Dec. 10, 1909. 

Mx, Charles Urban, 
Madison Square Garden, 
Hew York City. 
Dear lr. Urban: 

Mr. Edison has veferred to me your letter of the 8th 
dinct., in reference to the demonstration which takes place tomorrow 
evening aut the Wadison Square Garden Concert Hall. He regrets that 
he will not be uble to be present, but I shall have someone from our 
comoany on hand to witness tue exhibition, 

Iowiuh you very much success, and ary 

Yours very truly, 

PLD /TWW Vice-President. 



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Ge 12/13/09. 

I hand you herewith sample of moving picture film, unpor- 


Mr. Jemeson: 

forated, which has been submitted to us, and I wish you would have 
this perforated, run through a printing machine and report to mo 
as to its photographic quality. After I get your report I will 

have iir. Gull mke a test for wear. 

FLD/LWW : P.-L. De 

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Lyons, Montplaisir, 18 Dec. 09 

Fdison Mfg. Co., 
orange, N.d. 


Our representative in New York, Mr. Brulatour 
has advised us of the content of yours of the 6th fant, at which 
we are very much surprised, ‘as we possess reports from Cinemato-= 
graphic houses of importance, who have passed through their 
apparatus our inflammable films more than 600 times without the 

least tearing. 

Please accept etc. an 
; ''Planchon. 

Managing Director, 

Film service. Ss tL re ree 
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At errant anther ods 

Dec. 28,1969 

Thomas Graf, Esqa., 
c/o Notional Phonograph Company, Ltd., 
Willesden Junction, London, Hngland. 

iy dear Sir:- 

Nr. Dyer duly received yours of the 13th 
ult. in reference to the Desbeiare camera. Hr. Dyer di- 
rects me to say that at the present time we are using 
cameras only for our'regular work, and avnae the chief 
daventuce of Mr. Desbriere's camera ayparently lies in 

its compactness, there is apparently no particular ad- 

vantage in its use.. Mr. Dyer believes, however, that 

rere On tee eee 

the time may come when we oan market such a camera in ; 
this country, and he wishes to know whether an applicatinn : 4 
for a putent on the camera has been filed in the United 
States, and if not, on what dates were applications for 

patents filed abroad. This latter information is to de- 

country. If it is patentable, ur. Dyer proposes that a 
small sum, eay one thousand francs - be, offered Mr. Deseo 

briere for the United States patents, and an agreement to 

termine whether or not the camera is patentable in this | 
; ; : a ; 
o_bay_a royalty if the cameras are placed_on the_market.. i 

#2 ThomasGraf , Esq. 

ie. Dyer wishes that you would furnish him the foregoing 
information and at the same time see whether Mr. Desbriere 
is likely to accept such a proposition as is outlined. 

Yours very truly, 

GFS/ARK. Assistant to Vice-President. 


1909. Motion Pictures - Kinetophone (D-09-37) 

This folder contains correspondence and other documents relating to the 
technical and commercial development of talking pictures. Included are items 
pertaining to the experimental work contracted to Daniel Higham for a 
combined phonograph-projector. Other documents relate to Edison's concern 
about an appropriate name for Higham's "talking picture machine" (eventually 
called the "kinetophone") and to the evaluation of improvements submitted by 
outsiders. Among the correspondents are Frank L. Dyer, vice president of the 
Edison Manufacturing Co.; George F. Scull, assistant to the vice president; and 
employee Isaac W. Walker. 

Approximately 70 percent of the documents have been selected. The 
items not selected include correspondence regarding improvements that the 
Edison Manufacturing Co. declined to pursue, as well as items that duplicate 
information in selected material. 




Mir. W. IL. Eokert: 1/29/09. 

The contract of Teb. 17, 1908, between the Edison Mfg. 
Co. and Daniel Higham provides that from the date of the first 
shop order put through for his apparatus his salary shall be 
increased from $50.00 to $100.00 per week. Mr. Higham called ny 
attention to the fact that a shop order has been put through for 
12 machines, and this being so he is entitled to the inorease in his 
salary. Please arrange to have this put through, the increase 
taking place from the date of the shop order, 


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as applied to tne Highana machine. admit tyat the nasal | is a vegtiuy 

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poor one, and £ am glad ane have cally 2d us down. Two names 

are necessary, one Tor the new bh frogsfion a wa whe other ney 
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compined apparatus. The name welNadstcuggled with we 

phonograoh, and I was very mucin in favor of some term 
ggest loudness, busy on "Calliope" or "Thor", but I was out-voted. 
We will try it again. Qf course, for the combineé purpose aw mate 
“Like "Camerophone" or "Chronophone", both of which are on the market, 
would be proper. Sevanasionel and "Vivephone", which you suggest, 
strike re us being vers eons but perhaps we can find better ones. 

a2? Regarding the wearing of Amberol records, I have not seen any 

comolzints PRGOM LY a 0Ue gave specific instructions that when any 

complaints were nede to hava the records complained of returned 

in order that we gould examine them. Nothing has been said 
recently avout changing the sapphire, and of ccurse nothing will be 
done until we are absolutely sure and until you are Vully aavised. 
In one very recent case a man in Ovange complainec bitterly of the 

wearing of Ambevol records, but we found upon investigation that he 

T. A. Bdison. (2) 3/6/09. 

was simply a crank who Would probably not be satisfied with anything 
at any rate, in that case he was entirely weong. 
Yours very wily, 


iA ei ge AO 



449 we | MEMORANDUM 

The name "Exhibition" selected by the Committee for 
the new loud-speaking phonograph, which is to be used primarily for 
talking pictures, has been objected to by Mc. Edison as undesirable 
and colorless. I wish each member of the Committee would submit 
to me a list of at least 10 and not more than 20 names which would 
be proper for a loud-speaking phonograph and let us see if we cannot 
get something that will meet Mir. Bdison's approval. 7 

So far as the name for the combined apparatus is concerned, 

we can Wait a little while, put it will be well for the members of 

the Conmittee to jot down suggestions for names that occur to theme 



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The name of a Greek musician who built Thebes by the sound of 
his lyre which charmed the stones into their places, 


A Greek musician who charmed the dolpins with his lute, 

A minstrel poet, 

Muse of epic poetry. <A series of steam whistles played by 
means of a keyboard. A steam organ. Beautiful voiced, 


Personification of musical harmony. 


A woman who is the center of attraction because of her 
beauty, accomplishments, etc, 

PK Boebea 


ad April 17, 1909. 

Mr of t+ 

7 In re. your memo. No. 533: In Mr+ Higham's 
ppPirect is the following clause:- 

"It is, however, understood and agreed 
that if the said "Higham makes any invention re- 
lating ts phonographs which the National Phono- 

y graph mpany shall regularly adopt and put out 
ak Cc ection with its machines, then in such 
Pee said Higham shall receive a salary of 

a per week hereunder during the continuance 

i¥s which may be made from the sale of combined 

Ad uf RE ‘this agreement, irrespective of the net pro- 


oving picture and talking machines," 

If the suggestion of Mr. Higham amounts to an in- tj 
vention, he would be entitled to this increase of salary. ¥ 

Geo. F. Soll. v ay 

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eal May 4, 1909. 

Mr. Dyer:- 

In re. your memo. 568: Allowed claims in 
the Higham application cover broadly the idea of a feed 
screw mounted in a @emovable carriage and a fixed feed 
nut. The prior art discloses a fixed feed screw and a 
nut mounted on the movable carriage. The margin of 
patentability in this reversal is probably small, but 
the Patent Office has not cited any reference against 
the allowed claims. Mr. Weber's device can be made to 
avoid the Higham claims by making it like the prior 
art, though this would have to be done carefully to 
avoid claims in the patent to Briggs, et al, No. 576,081, 
dated January 26, 1897. These claims do not cover 
broadly the idea of a splined shaft and movable carriage, 
put do cover the same combination with the addition of 
a lever adapted when rocked to disengage the nut and at 
the same time raise the diaphragm needle, this lever 
being one of the features in the device of Mr. Weber. 
Mr. Weber now has a device with a rocking horn, which 
avoids the traveling mandrel, and he seems to think that 
this will be preferable to the traveling mandrel, ese 
pecially in view of the Higham contract. 

Since Higham has fulfilled one of the condi- 
tions of his contract, i.e., the construction of a de- 
vice for talking pictures on which a shop-order has been 
placed, he will hereafter be entitled to a salary of 
at least $3,000. a year, no matter what the profits of 
the Manufacturing Company are, and he will receive no 
more than $5,000. a year, no matter what these profits 
are. Consequently, an increase of $2,000. per annum 
is all that is involved in the question of the use of 
his device by the National Phonograph Company. 



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ir. Loe ye" ve & “ 5/8/09. 
Reena the attached memorandum, keep the matter in 

mind, and when ltr. Weber has definitely decided on the design 

of the movable mandrel machine, but before he issues a definite 

shop order to go ahead with them, let me know and I wid. take up 

¥ a 
the matter with him and see just how we stand. w oe oy 
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a 568 a 
Mr. Scull: 4/22/09. 

The contract with Mr. Higham provides that if the 
National Phonograph Co. shall regularly adopt and put out machines 
embodying his inventions Higham shail receive a salary of $100 .00 
per week during the continuance of the agreement. The fact that 
the Edison Manufacturing Co. may use phonographs embodying Higham's 
invention does not in my mind bear on this question, and under 
the agreement his aalary will depend upon the amount of business 
done by the Edison Manufacturing Co. If, however, the National 
Phonograph Cc. uses these inventions, the case is different and 

the salary is to be $100.00 per week, regardless of the amount of 

business done by the Edison Manufacturing Co. I wish, therefore, 

that you would look into the movable mandrel machine which Mr. 
Weber has in his office and consider it in connection with the 
claims allowed on the Higham application and advise me whether 
changes can be mde that will avoid these claims or whether the 
claims are so broad that they can probably not be avoided without 
sacrifice. If the latter is the case, then we might later on 
consider, before adopting this device by the National Co., whether 
we should not use a stationary mandrel after all. 
FLD/TWW _ iF. L. D. 



Alaska-Qukon-Parific Exposition 


Opens June Ist. - Closes October 16th. 
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Phonograph That Records | 
Into Continuous Film 

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Dr. F.C, Goodale: of Tacoma 
Uses Celluloid Film for Re- 
producing. Sound — Seeks 

. to Revolutionjze’ Business, 


NE 19, 1909. 

PHONOGRAPITL that tn capable of 
reproducing an entire opera’ or 
drama—one that will, if fitted 

with a film roll Jong enough, play for 
more than. four hours, is the invention 
of Dr.: F.: C. Goodale, a Tacoma 
physician, who two yours ago’ gavo up 
the practice of medleine ,to study the 
reproduction of sound In’ an effort to 
improve upon the present method of 
cylinder and dtse records that will re- 
produce but a few moments, 

Dr. Goodale’y fnvontion 1s exceeding- 
ly, almple in construction, and may be 
operated by efther electrical’ power. or 
spring motor. The cellulold film, which 
ig the ordinary film used in moving plc- 
tures,‘ and try be purehnsed for 85 
cents par thousand feet, prases from nr 
reel at tho back of the machine, under 
a sapphire point connected with the 
diaphram at the small end of tha horn, 
ang onto a reel nt the front of tho ma- 
ehine, © Ses : 

The manufactura of 2 motallic 
@aphragm  sufficlently delicate to re- 

roduco the sound waves from a cellue 
old fim has proven the — stumbling 
block in the path of every Inventor thus 
far, An ordinary talking machine has 
a diaphragm that $s perfectly fiat and 
in’ the centor of thla and in direct, con- 
nection with It Is a noedle, Tho Gond- 
ale machina fa different. Its dlaphriggm 
igs convex on both sides. It nlso has 
multiple Iovorage instead of direct, as 
in other machines. Thr¢e miniature 
levers Join ench other, ohe end helny 
attached to the thick center of the 
dlaphra: and tho other to the. miniature 
doorknob-shaped sapphire, which corras- 

onds to the neodle in other machines: 

his combination ts tho feature of tho 
new invention, With this combination Dr. 
Goodale belleves he hrs solved the mys- 
tery and made possible the uso of 
celluloid: film for tho perfect reproduc- 
tion of ‘sound, 

Groat Possibilitics in Now Film. 
“On a roll of film.100 fect long and an 
inch in width 1 have successfully mado 
sixty records,” sald Dr, Goodale today, 
in describing — tho machine. “Each 
record plays about fifteon minutos. This 
explanation may, convey some idea: of 
the possibilities with n film’ 1,000 or 
more fect In length, The cost of the 
film {s.a-nierg Item. A machine, or 
rotary ‘cutter, for cutting the ‘film Into 
any desired width, may bo” purchased 
for about $8.° Tho .total cost. of tho 
phonograph when {t-1s placed on the 
marke wilk not. be over $25,, ,. ° 
“As an-:ald to the. business man ‘its 
worth :.cannot. bo ostimated.’. . Machines, 
that wilistake up no more space than 
the ordinary paper. weight, ard that 
mny be used for correspondence with 
the use.of a film flve-sixteenths of an 
inch in width, and but a few feet In 
length, and that may be mailed for 1 
cent, will prove of much yalue to the 
busy Recording one's con-- 
versation is ‘simplicity ‘itself. A‘ thin-4 
dinphragin inthe maciiing viabrates when 
struck by the waves produced by sound, 
These vibrations operate’ a very small 
unge-ike Knife, that. reality a 
iny and nicaly-fasliloned tool, made of 
n Httie sapphire jewel. The -snpphire 
funge ‘cuts the impressions deep or 
shallow, xx desired, .on- the -cettulold 
film passing beneath: it. ! ; <a 
“In reproducing a small lover permits 
of eight degrees of wound without 
lensening the | speed. of the machine, 
while by turning still‘another lever the 
record mnay:be. given fast-or slow,. nH 
deslred. A amall diat hand permits one 
to reproduce any record on tho film, or 
may be set so ng to automntically re- 
peat the samo one fg many tines as 
desired. | , Fas ah 
Perfects Moving Picture Outfits, : 
“This'means ‘the attainment of all that: 
js desirable In talking - machines: us 
operated. simultaneously - with » moving 
pleturea-as 1s now belng.done in Europe, 
and the larger: cltles .of: this. country. 
At the present ‘time: two muchines aro 
used in doing this. With my invention,. 
by the use of an attuchmont,-. the -phono- 
graph may-be plactd at ‘the sido of: tho: 
moving picture,-machine:: Tha‘. plioto- 
graphs maybe taken’ upon the: talling’ 
machine record’ at tho fname time that 
the songs and speeches arg: recorded 

ee ag 

-on. the: same- film. “Both. may then bo 

reproduced simultancously.” , 

for the ;manufacture= y,machines. 
‘The inventor ts 46° year: ds and fn. 
native of Iowa, but” camé™ West*alghs: 

i ears Ee He Neves with his daughter, 

fiag Pearl Goodale, at. 963+ South - Bj 

r. Usegjale last: week. procured four-, 
teen pate i he" invention’ and* tn 
now endeavorin® ‘auf capitallats 
Street, Tacoma. de 

* ———_ : 
< Cees TS ew OY ENE ATED Yea. Gream:Cone pt: 


809 , 
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ur. Dolbeer! 6/28/09. 

Tohave carefully considered the attached Letter from 
i, Davega oud the proposed talking mzchine inverited by Dr. F.C. 
Gocdale of Tacoma, bul T do not think the suggestion is one in 
which “ec would be at all interested, since lS. AyLsworth telle ma 
that difficulties would be encountered in making a record on 

celluloid flim that would be practically insurmowitabie. 

EuD/rwyt Be te De 


Form 280 


Y\ P, ~ dala - eee | 


Mr. We. Y. Wheeler, 
Superintendent Surcau of Inventions, 
ALaska-“ukon-Pacific tiposition, 

Seattle, Wash. 

“iv, dison nas cexerred to me your Lettay of the 
2460 dnst., ith enclosed vewapaper- clipping desceripiig a new 
phonograph invented by Min. FF. OO, Goodale. Luis matter hud been 
Previously Vrougit to ow ebiention, and artes cavorul considerae 

tion 1% was concluded that Ghe device is of no interest to us. 

Yours ysry truly, 

Srp /TWw President, 


Members Exeoutive Committee: . 

The following are the names. which have been suggested 
fér the Talking Picture Machine, ‘Please indicate your first, second 
and third.choice and return to me so that I can tabulate them __ 

Dramaphone Photophone 
Kinetophone Projectograph 
Vivophone ini te 









Mation=Picture Phono 

Kinetophonograph asl 

Graphosoope , 


August 12, 1909, I. W. Walker, 



First Choice 
Kinet ophone 



Vivophone 1 
Dramaphone L 

Second Choice 

Kine tophone 



Photophone a 

Phonokine tograph 1 



Third Choice 
Kinet ophone 


Phonos cope 1 ’ 
Kinet ophonograph 1 


Kine tophone 6 
Phonoscope 3 
Photophone 3 ’ 



¢ ‘third choice and vretura to me to be ) tabulated: 


a a 

_ Mees Bxseut ive aise 

he Heal “i aphehiss, ef. Pihesn ain jb 

vs The following names have been suggested for the Higham 
Haa.pp eeaking Phonograph, "Please indicate your firet, second an 


Edison ia: 



August 12, 1909, 


Sonido Oryptophone 
Vox-Magna Oryptaphone 
Perfection Choralophone:: 
Wonder ... Charister... 
Gl . Selon .. 
Faithful Cabinetta 
Beauty 4 
Delightfu2 wy. sstio 
Unique .. — Climax. 
Chorus: Synfon 
Society Advance 
eal oe 
Supe ‘ogress 
Invino ible Popular 
prepped ee ee 
Anpl iphone 
Opera. ... 
or: . 
war. — 
Bard ... 
Bellg. .. 
ea ehon i 
Uranophone.. . 
Cabinet Grand 
I. W. Walker, 

ree eee 

Menbers Exeoutive Committee. 2% 
The following names have been suggested forbthe tornless 
Phonograph, Please indicate your seabed, “second and third 
ohoice and return to me to be tabulated? 

Opera. Uslodto 
Q Edisona 
Uaglo Edisaia 
Myst Amphion 
Famous Orphens 
Attractive Duloetone 
Select - Nestor. 
Progress Magnus 
Aoourate Stogan 
Concise Stentor 
Special Jupiter 
Complete Aome 
Popular Buraka 
Yohorn Winner 
Superba Ss eeny 
. Q 
Majestic Fon 
: Bapoco,. 
Symfon e- Lux 
Advance Star 
Salon . Overall 
Cabinetta Leader. 
Nonpare ii Sanspareil 
Iroquois. Arion. a 
Aubassador Bard. 
Sonido. .. Harmonia 
Vox. Berle - 
Perfection Regent 
Perfect .. 
ny Crown 
bei Orphean 
Faithful Dulogtophone 
Beauty Urano @. 
Delightful Cabinet.Grand 
ique Crytophone. 
Merr iment Choralophane 
Soprano Chorister.. 
Favorite gael eon. 
_ Boalety 
dara eg 
Symphon ic_ 
Monarch - - . 
Symphonic I, W. Walker 

biciied 12, to02, 






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PATENT Causes. \ 

| va MAIN 2146, A. B,C. Cour . 
NU Fa WASHINGTON, D. c. September 15, 1909. 

Frank L. Dyer, Esq., 


put it 908 G STREET N.W. 

Orange, Ne J. 
Dear Mr. Dyer:- 

I have come across an application ,filed 
in 1880, now pending in the Patent Office, which con- 
tains fundamental idens and basic claims in arts which 
I think may make it of material value to one or more 
of your companies. Spencer B. Prentiss, whom I have 
known for years, is attorney in the case and has brought 
it to me for advice and with a view to submitting it 
for sale. 

The invention consists in recording and re~ 
producing sound and othor phenomena by means of Light 
(and other radiant energy), and a ribbon-like ‘translucent 
photographic film. This film is wound on reels and 
moved at the proper speed to receive the impressions, 
which latter are made by light controlled by a shutter 
carried by a diaphragm which vibrates in accordance 
with the sound to be Tecorded. Reproduction of the sound 
is effected by projecting light through the translucent 
photographic recora upon a sensitive receiving device, 
such as a selenium cell, included in circuit with a 

telephone receiver. 

Frank L. Dyer, Esq., --2 
Vary broai claims stand allowed on the 
apparatus and combination of elements, and also on the 

record strip. Clain 50 reads as follows:- 

"650. A record of pulsations in sound con- 
Bisting of a stip or band photographically 
affected in accordance with said pulsations 
and capable of reproducing the sound." 

Many elaborations and modifications of the 
broad idea are described upon which divisional appli- 
cations could doubtless be prepared. 

You will, at once, see the bearing of this 
case on the phonograph and movirg picture arts ard the 
possibility that dominating claims might be obtained 
which could be used offensively and defensively. The 
early filing date, 1880, makes the finding of pertinent 
references practically impossible. 

If you would Like to look into the matter and 
will appoint a time for an interview to hear the appli- 
cation read, Mr. Prentiss will go to New York for that 
purpose, or I will bring the application over to you. 
Two hours would,probably, be required to dispose of the 


Frank L. Dyer, Esq., -~3. 

The application has been submitted to me 
with the understanding that if it is not purchased no 
disclosure will be nade to any other person and no 
act done to injure ‘or prejudice the apvlication. 

I know. of no one so competent as yourself 
to pass upon the probable value of the appli cation. 

Yours very truly, 




Sept. 16,1909. 

Melville Church, Esq., 
908 - G Street, 
Washington, D.C. 
Ey dear Mr. Church:- 

Yours of the 15th inst. has been 
received in reference to the application of Mr. Prentiss, 
if the application is limited to the recording of sounds 
or similar phenomena by means of light, it would be of 
interest to us, but if the claims are broad enough, in 

your opinion, to cover moving pictures, it might be very 

interesting, although we must not forget that broadly 

_. Speaking, the moving picture idea was suggesting many years 

before 1880. At the same time, there would certainly be 
no harm in my looking into the application providing Mr. 
Prentiss has not some impossible idea as to its value, 
and I would suggest that you bring it over. There are 
always enough things here to be discussed with you as to 
make it worth your while to come on whenever you can. 
Almost any day next week would convenient to me except 
Tuesday and Thursday, when, as you know, I am in New York. 

Yours very truly, 



4. B. GHUACH, 


PATENT Causes. 


908 G STREET N.W. 

Came ApDacas “CHUncH.? 
A.B. C, Conk Vero, 

Lona Distance TetePHone 
MAIN 2t46, 

WASHINGTON, 9.c. September 17, 1909 
Seek , ey 
ae” boost i 

Sep PS lus ‘ 
Kia ci DET ) 

Frank L. Dyer, Esq., 
Edison Laboratory, ’ f 
Orange, N. J. \ 

Dear Mr. Dyer:- ke 

Yours of the 16th instant received.” 
I will come over to New York Sunday night and be at 
your office in Orange on Monday morning. Will bring 
the application controlled by Kr. Prentiss with me and 
you can then decide whether there is anything in it 
worth while. I make this early appointment in order 
that it may not conflict with later ones. I hope it 
will be agreeable to you. 

Truly yours, 

liiMe Chon ka 
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ral ae af Ny 
MW kad 
re” op 
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i va 

lO 2 Peat inte 


.~ October 13, 1909. 

Mr. Dyer i-= 

In accordance with your instructions, I took 
up the matter of making the model of the Baldwin sound 
amplifier, shown in the accompanying patent, with Mr. 
Pierman. The latter said that he was very busy on some 
work for l&, Edison end suggested that Wolke Was capable 
of doing the job, and as Pierman expressed it, would 
be free from any prejudice. fr, Wolke, however, is 
doing some work. for Hr; Edison also, and I thousht it 
would be advisable tor you to take up the matter with 
Mr, Hdison te have him euthorize Wolke to do the job. 


Form 539, 


Nov. 22, 1909, 

Mr. Norace G. Plimptcn, 

Sronx. Studio, 

Dear Sie: 

copuLtion in order shat he oan now start in 


if any, 

Will be 


Se, Wighai is anxious to obtain «. camera in Tivsteeless 

pictures. Pleaso advise me how vou i 

ox Cameras and whether you cag spore ens at the present 

ALSO ascertain faery oy. Oliver nnd advice we how muny CEN VAL, 

ase now Yelng Mnishedoun im the faetemy and when they 


Yours very truly, 






Roman OL Edison : 10 FirTH Avenue, New Yorn CABLE AODRESS 



we, (J 
er aa Mar Gor , Nove 15, 1909. 

Mr. Frank L. Dyer, Vice-President, 

NOV 1G gus 
PRIN ie hf 


Edison Manufacturing Co., 
Ovange, N. JZ. 
Dear Sir:- care 

Referring to your letter of the 12th about cameras, 
the way the matter stands at present is as follows:- 

We have eight cameras of which five are in use by our 
regular Camera Operators, and one in the possession of Mr. Chester. 
This leaves two cameras to provide for the camera to be used to re« 
place the one turned in each week by the Camera Operator, and one 
other in case of any breakdown, necessitating repairs at Orange. 

If we should take one of the above cameras for Mr. Higham, you 
will see that it will only leave one camera beyond the amount in 
daily use, and we should hardly be on the safe side. 

I understand that the camera Mr. Porter took West is now 
in Mr. Weber's hands some small parts being missing. Mr. Oliver 
is to see Mr. Webex to-morrow, and if this camera can be put into 
shape immediately, we can then be able to give Mr. Higham one, 
without any loss to the regular business. I will advise you about 
this to-morrow or Wednesday. 

~ Q2- 

In addition to the above, there are four more cameras 
being built, one of which I understand is expected to be ready in 
about five weoks, and the others, I presume in two ox three months. 

Referring to your letter of the 12th in regard to lengths 
of special pictures, this will have attention. 

Yours very truly, 
Edison Manufacturing cot, 
Kinetograph Dept. , 

Sivas tesflec 

RB/BB Mer. , aed: Production. 

Form 539. 
Sr peut 
fae ee 
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; is 
« ed 

Nov. 16, 1909. 

Mr. Horace G. Plimpton, 

Bronx Studio. 3 
Deur Sir: 

Replying to yours of the 15th inst., let me know ag soon 
as the Porter cemora ig fixed up in order that one of the other 
cameras cun be turned over to ir, Higham. I have urged Nr, Weber 
to-day to push the congtruction of the four additional cameras 

aa rapidly as possible. 

Yours very truly, 

FLD/IVY Vice-President, 

: Sota me eee 

Memo. ee (a JF) 
See Mr. Plimpton tonight and tell him that ir. Higham is now 
ready te take pictures. These pictures will be taken at the 21st 
St. Studie and Mr, Higham will be given the use of the Studio 
a8 much as he wants, provided he Gives ifr. Plimpton two or three 
days notice beforehand, Also have Nv. Haddock co-operate with Mr, 
Migham in picking out desirabic Yecords to ba illustrated by 
means of pictures. Ur. Haddock con ve of great held to Hr. Higham 
in connection cllh the making, of the pictures, Me. Wighan will 
Algo have the use of Mr. Haddockts Canera Man when the pictures are 
being taken; in othr words, until Me. Highun makes a sufficient 
nuriber of pictures for stock, he wlll have tha right of way at the 
cist St. Studie. 

ie, Highan proposes to start in at flst St. on Friday morning 
if convenient to ifr, Plimpton; if not, if. Pli::pton will telephone 

Mr. Hisham tomorrow. 

1//s. FOL. D. 

1909. Patents (D-09-39) 

This folder contains correspondence and other documents relating to 
foreign and domestic patent applications, patent litigation, and other patent 
matters. Among the items for 1909 are letters concerning patent legislation in 
the United States and Great Britain, patent jurisdiction in the Panama Canal 
Zone, and the possible commercial exploitation of two Edison patents. Most of 
the letters are to or from Frank L. Dyer, president and general counsel! of the 
National Phonograph Co. 

Approximately 40 percent of the documents have been selected. The 
items not selected include routine letters of inquiry; receipts; Edison patents 
enclosed with selected correspondence; routine letters concerning taxes; 
accounts with attorneys; and items that duplicate information in selected 

Related documents can be found in D-09-32 (Legal Department). 

¥eb. 10, 1909. 

Charles >, Bruch, @sa., 
Postal Telegraph-Cable Co., 

253 Broadway, New Yovic. af 
My desr Sirs ‘ 

ir. Linon has suggested thet I shonld bring to your 
attention the enoloned patent, No. 909,877, dated Jenuary 19, 1909. 
He would like te have you read this patent over and advisu me 
whether or not you think the invention 4s one in which the Postel 
Telegraph Co. would be interested. He states that hig soovinente 
with the invention have turned out very satistactorily ond he 
regards the schene os entirely comercial, Should you deaire extra 

copies of this patent I will be glad to let you have them, 

Yours very truly, 

PLD/LW . General Counsel. 


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Postal Celegraph-Cable Company 
Exerutitie Offices 


THIRD VICE PRESIDENT Netu Darl: February llth, 1909 

Teneral Counsel, 

Thomas A Edison, i 


a : Ata. DYER, 

Orense, Nie. 
Dear Sir: 

Your frvor of the 10th instant, enclosing a copy of 
=r. Edison's patent 10.909,877, of vanuary 19th, 1909, has been 
received and referred to our Electrical Engineer, with the re- 
quest that he examine it and report as to “hether or not the 
device is likely to be adaptable to, and of use in, our service. 
Upon receirt of this report, T will communicate with you fur- 


Themcing ir.EGison end vourself for bringing the mat- 
ver to our attention, I am, 

Yours truly, 





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Feb, 23, 1909, 
Joseph R. Bdson, sqe, 
Washington Life & Trust Building, 
Washington, D. G: 
My dear Mr. BEdgon:: 9.8 ; 
I. thank you very much for your letter of the 17th 
Tnat +) enclosing ‘the proposed Patent Court of Appeals bill. It 
seems tomo that this is-a most exoclicnt suggestion and one that 
,¢annot help from doing much ood. 
I know iit, Edison's ideau, as I have often discussed this mat- 
tev vith-him,, ond the suggestion mects with his emphatio and hearty 
‘approval. You Imow, of course, that in past years, he has oriti-~ 

icised our patent system in various ways, largely because of the 

discouraging delays and difficulties which are, encountered in 

-having oases finally disposed of, and I believe the new Court would 
inn large measure remove these objections. = 2. | 
; Thanking you for your very -kind. porsonal.words, I an, 

ae ive 

Yours very truly, 

J ‘ 

‘president. er 



March 6, 1909, 

Frank 1.. Tyer, Faq.,Presiaent, etc., 

MAR & 1909 


New Jersey. 

My deac Mr. Dyer:- 
I thank ycu for ycurs ef the 23ra ult. Altncugn the 
Committee on tne Judiciary made a favorable report on cur Patent Ceurt 
ef Appeals bill, following a sinilar cepert of the Senmittee on7 Patents, 
owing tc the shert sessicn and the amcunt of werk . before the Hour@y 
we were unable to secure the passage of the Bill at this session, We 
feel cenfident of favcrakle action - ‘by - Congresscat its next general 
eession. May I, as a representative of the Committee or Patents, etQ., 
expect some assistance from Mr. Fdison in support of this saia Bill, 
especially in the Senate. I will be glad te senda you, or Prof, Faison 
any literature at my commana which woulda tena to further secure his 

cenoperation in support;of: the Bill. il.. 

Very truly ycurs, 

flap VC, tobe 


Mr. Holden: 3/9/09. 

I hand you herewith lettor of Feb. 23rd, fron Harris & 

Mills, which has disturbed me a good deal. I hnve always understood 
that under the new British Patents Act working in Great Britain 
was compulsory anly when a demand existed in that country fer the 
patented article, and when that demend was supplied by importation 
into Great Britain from a foreign comtry--in other words, while 

the battery was btill in a more or less formative state, we would 
be fairly safe so long as we did not supply British customers 
from America or Germany. Harris & Mills seem to feel that this is 
not so and that we ought to commence manufacturing in Great Britain 
imiediately. If they are right, I am efraid the advice I have 
given ir, Bdlson may not be correct. I wish you would look into 
this matter immediately bo far as possible and alvise me. You 
will find that I have had some correspondence with Mr. Marks on this 
subject, and possibly his lett-rs may be helpful. 



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April 8, 1909 

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\ ite. Dyer: 

: I have gone over the decisions sent by Harris & 
Wills, regarding the working of British patents under the new 
lav. I do not Pind any case in which it appears that there 
had been no importation whatever of the patented ariicles into 
Great Britain, and in which the application for revocation 
waS opposed on this ground. 

I should not, however, consider it a valid defence, 
or in dase there had been minufacture outside Great Britain, 
pecause the British law provides for revocation in case the 
patented article is manufactired exolusively or mainly oute- 
side the United Kingdom. 

If the artiole is manufactured at aiid outside of 
Great Britain, then it is covered by the "exclusively" pro- 
vision, whether it is imported into Great Britain or not. 
Some patentees have endeavored to save their patents 
by showing that the article was manufactured in Great Britain n 
as well as abroad, but where the number of articles imported 
excecded the number of articles made in Great Britain, the 
Controller has held that the article was manufactured mainly 
outside of Great Britain and he therefore revoked the patent. 

It seems that the only way to avoid revocation is 
not only to manufacture in Great Britain but to make more of 
the articles there, that is, a greater number of the articles 


there than are4imported into Great Britain, - ‘ ree 



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In an application foe revocation granted in Pebruary 
last, the argument was made for the patentecs that thore had 
been no manufacture any where of the patented article, but 
this argument was based upon a fanciful interpretation of the 
words "patented articles", the patentec claiming these yvords 
to mean an article for which protection is claimed by the 
patentee, and that if the patentee does not Labol the articles 
as being made under the patent, he is not claiming a protcc~ 
tion under the patent and is not using the patent, This . 
view is not taken by the Gontroller who held that what is 
& patented artiole depends upon the specification and o12 ims 
of the patent, which seems to be the true view. In this 
case it appeared that the patented device was made in Great 
Britain only to a small oxtent and there were large importa- 
tions, and there Meee also a great many infringing lanps made 
in Great Britain. The Controller held that even if 69 per 
cent of the lamps that were sold in Great Britain were theres: 
manufactured and the remainder imported, this would not go to 
show that the patented &rticle was not manufactured minly 
abroad, because it would leave altogether out of account ; 
the number of lamps which are made abroad and not imported ine 
to Great Britain. I do not see how the court could sustain 
any such proposition as this, pecause this principle the 
Supplying of all the British demands with goods of British 
manufacture would not save the patent in case such demand was - 
smaller in comparison with the demand in foreign countries 


supplied by manufacture in such countries. 

However, from reading the decision in this and 

_other cases, I am of the opinion that the only way to save 

British patents which are being worked at all in foreign 
countries, is to supply the entire British market, or at 
least more than 50/3 of it, with articles manufactured in 

Great Britain, and that such manufacture means the making of 

' the several parts there as distinguished from the importing 

of the parts and the assembling of them in Great Britain. 


Postal Celegraph-CableGompany 
Executif Offices 


GHARLED FP ORU CW a a: Neu Dork 


oS eee 

ay 6th, 1909, 

uy, Frank L.Dyer, 

MAY 71909 

General Counsel, 
Edison Laboretory, 

Orange, Hed. 

Dear Sir: i 

Referring to your letters of February 10th and April 7th: 
ly delay in replying has been due to absence on account of illness, 

On my return to the office a day or two since, I fing a 
report from our Electrical Engineers to the effect that, in their 
opinion, the improvement likely to result from the application of 
rectifiers to our quedruplexes would hardly be sufficient to war- 
rant their adoption, 

However, if you desire us to give them a practical trial, 

and will send us the necessary apparatus for that purpose, we will 
be glad to male the trial, and advise you as to the result. 

Yours truly, 

Seb OwhKD 

Vice President, 


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Mr, Holden: 6/28/09. 

T cail your attention to the attaches reissued patent to 
Miller, Wo. 12,963, dated lay 25, 1909,“ Running over the alain 

hastily gives me the impression thay’the Victor Company have 

broadened the original patent tuA tromendous extent. Iowish you 
would make #3 Goon as passiblge’a proliminary report on the claims 
of this patent, and later on I will have you make a final report, 

because T am af 

requested Bacon 
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Mr. Dyer Smith: 4s 1/8/09. 

You will find t i about 23 years ago, as I remember, 
Mr. Edison ohtained two or ‘ceed patents relating to the mamfacture 
of plate glass by squirti the liquid glass through a die, and 
these patents were assigndd to a number of individuals. After 
you have found these patents, bring them to the attention of Mr. 
Harry FP. Miller and sce\¥f he can locate any contracts relating 
to their use. Mr. Edison tells m that this process is now 
being extensively employed in Ohio and he thinks there was a 
contract ponder which he was to be paid royalties. I want to 
look into the mtter and see if there is anything coming to him. 



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Mr. Dyer Smith: 12/20/09. 

There is some possibility that the Government may put in 

an infringing Giant Roll. Crusher in the Canal Zone. Look up the 

patent question and see if it is necessary for us to register our 

patents in the Canal Zone in order to give protection, 

FLD/TWY B. OL. fap’ 


Dec. 20, 1909 

Mr. Dyer: 

In answer to your memorandum 1085 referring to the 
possibility of the Government putting in an infringing Giant 
Roll Crusher in the Canal Zone, I would say that the patent, 
trade mark and copyright laws of the United States were extended 
to and made effective within the Canal Zone to the extent that 
any patent or copyright issued under the laws of the United 
States, or any trade mark duly registered in the Patent Office 
Shall vest in the person to whom it is issued or in whose name 
registered, his assigns and licensees, subject to the pro- 
tection of the Circvit and Supreme Courts of the Canal Zone, 
the same exclusive right of property therein that such person 
would possess in the United States. This was done by execu- 
tive order by authority of the President and signed by Secretary 
Taft to become effective April ae. 1907. Apparently, we have 
as much protection against the Government under our patents in 
the Canal Zone as we have anywhere in the United States. It 
seems to me, however, that this is not a great deal of pro- 
tection. If they infringe or threaten to infringe, we might 
Perhaps enjoin some of the officers of the Government from 
infringing further, but I do not think we could ever get any 

accounting or any relief except an order preventing the Govern~ 


ment from using the apparatus. The only way we can make 
anything Sit of the Government's desire to use the rolls in the 
Zone, if they do a0 desire, would seem to be to meet them 
partway and make some arrangement which the Government would 


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Nov. 19th, 1909. 

Mr. Selwyn Aucker, 

Edgerton, Ohio. 
Dear Sir:- 

We have received yours of Nov. 15th, and shall i 
be pleased to receive your instructions together with the 
first fee of $10. at your earliest convenience. 

IL. you do not hear from the party-to. hon. you.-- ee 
wrote relative to us, please let us know at. once, ‘giving us 
his name if you have no objections to doing 50+ There is 

of course a chance that some of these ‘inventors have move d ; 

or that they would not have time to. answer inquiries reléting 
to us, and should you fail to get @ reply ig your letter, we 
would suggest that you write to. others. We believe that Mr» 
A a Willey, . of Versailles, Tlie, can: give you. an. ‘opinion’: 
“as to our ability, ¢ and ‘also Mr. H. H. Dickson, of f Orlando, 
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We note your statement “that. you, contemplate writing _ 

to Mr ‘Thomas A. Edison for verification of: the sta toment - 
that ho. toosivea $36, 000. for. his first. invention. Please af 

bear. in nia, “however, thet we do not ‘vouch for the state 

ment. thet Mr. Eadpon. Teceived’ $36, 000. for his. invention. 

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1909. Phonograph - General (D-09-40) 

This folder contains correspondence and other documents relating to the 
technical and commercial development of phonographs. Among the 
documents for 1909 are items pertaining to the process of making cylinder 
records and to plans for developing diamond reproducing points and disc 
phonographs. Also included are letters suggesting new applications or 
improvements for the phonograph, to which Edison responded with marginal 
comments. Among the correspondents are Edison; Harry F. Miller, his personal 
secretary; Frank L. Dyer, president of the National Phonograph Co.; George F. 
Scull, assistant to the president; Carl F. Wilson, general manager; and Alphons 
Westee, secretary and treasurer. 

Approximately 90 percent of the documents have been selected. The 
items not selected include letters of transmittal and acknowledgment and items 
that duplicate information in selected material. 

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Wr. Westee: 1/8/09, 

I hand you herewith trial balances of the English, 
French and German Companies for the months of September and Octo-~ 
ber, 1908, just received from bir. Graf, Please let me have a 
brief report as to what these shew so that I can submit the same 
to Hr. Edison and give him an idea of what the Foreign Companies 

were doing during those morths. 

FLD/TWW Po De De. 



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Worcester, Massachusetts. 

Jan. 12, 1909, 
Desr Sir,- 

enclosed correspondence will explain it 

Can you suggest anything to help me 
in this matter? 

Kindly return the correspondence I have 
enclosed with this latter, and oblige 

Yours very truly, 

asph SMBtong 

Mr. Thos. A. Edison, 

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vr. Harry 7, Miller: DIL 1/18/09. 

I hand you herewith Letter from ir. Aylsvorth 

asking for an additionul advance on the amount to be padded hin for 
his patents when the Ambarol record was siuec esulul, awino a note 
from ie. Wdisen explaining hin present understanding of the 
arrangenent. I think you had batter keep these for future refer 
ence, in case the question ever comes up again. tie. Bdison has 
endorsed on lir. Wkavorth's Letter a note to pay him an additional 
$5,000.00 on accom t ‘of the patents, and I wish you would make 
arrangements with Mr. Edison to have this done. The moncy will 

be pid by the New Jersey Patent Co, F.L. D. Enc-= 

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Feb, 25,1909, 

Prank L. Dyer, Esq., 
o/o Marlborough~Blenheim, 
Atlantic City, N.J. 
By dear Mr, Dyor:- 
I have the honor to report that Mr, 
Aylsworth has already put into practice the vecuum method of 
withdrawing records from the molds. He believes that it is 
a thonoughly practicable conmercial operation, This is being 
done, however, without the polygonal cores, but he is working 
on these cores, although he does not believe that it is practi= 
cal commercially to use them, 
Yours very truly, 


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Tlounss Say Dr. J. OC. Dadosra, IR., Looat, anp' Lona Distancy 
0 To 12 a.m. 1022 Srrvon Street, TaLRrnonn 

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Dear Mr. Edison:— 

; I am writing to enquire whether it is practicable to record 
1 by the phonograph the various sounds of the heart and of the lungs; to 
magnify these sounds so as to render them audible in a lecture-room; and to 
' use such records for teaching purposes, to illustrate to medical students 
the various types of cardiac and respiratory findings obtained by means of 
auscultation with the stethoscope. The sounds to be recorded, though not 
intense, are fairly clean-cut and of a comparatively simple character;they 
can be readily magnified, with an amplifying stethoscope (phonendoscope) 
before their direct transmission to the blank record of the phonograph. 

. If you regard this scheme as feasible, anxious to 
undertake the recording of a series of both normal end pathologic sounds of 
the nature above specified, and will be grateful to you for any advice you 
may care to offer as to the technio of so doing. : 

With thanks in advance for your trouble in this matter, 

Thomas A. Edison ip wtON BLY pe 
Orange, N. 6 ian 'S 

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Yow that the New York situation hes been closed 
up, To think va ousht to gab vin to were asuinst price-cutters 
in that State to prevent the diserse from spreading. I recollect 
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pone Minn., 


Kindly pardon me for the liberty I an taking 
in addressing this letter to you. The reason I write is 
that I have a plan for a machine in which your Bhonograph 
will play a most important part. : 

One of these machines could be installed at every 
Penny Arcade, Amusement Park and other public places. 

It is on the slot princepal but will be oapable of earning 
twice if not four times the amount taken in on the ordinary 
slot machines using Song and speach records, 

It is some thing that would surely TAKE and it would 
be worth your while to investigate my plan. 

In return for my plan, providing you can use it, I 
will want in your first letter a written agreement that 
you will give me free of charge One Edison Home Phono- 
graph , Combination Type. and every thing to go with out- 
fit priced at $52.50 complete. Also 100 Edison Records 
my own selection. 

On receipt of such an agreement properly signed I 
will write you explaning in full my plan which I am quite 
sure will not only be a good money maker for the Edison 
Company but also for those in whos places this new machine 
is installed. 

I have given you the first chance and if I don't hear 
from you inside of ten days I will make some other Company 
the same offer. 




Mr. Thomas A. Edison, 
Orange, N. J. 

Dear Sir:- 

Very truly yours 


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BOSTON, MASS........... AVE 0-9..20.5..1909 6... 19 
Thomas A. Edison, Esq., 
Orange, N.d. 
My dear Mr Edison:-— 

In regard to the diamond tracker , I 
would say that I have been experimenting with it since I 
wrote you. I find that they can be made complete ror 
about $3.50. Of course, you are well aware that it is 
almost an impossibility to put a fine polish on a dia~ 
mond bali. We can put an extra polish on a diamond 
cup and bring it up to a very fine edge. I would suggest 
that you make a diamond cutter to out your roll;I think 
if it is properly made that it will cut vour roll so 
smooth that it will not wear your sapphire ball. 

In stating the above price, would sav 
that $3.50 would be for large numbers( of course, a small 
number would cost more) and this would give you the thing 
complete already for the machine. 

I would like a small piece of the 
material to experiment with,~- that is if you have no 

Yours very truly, 

WK Wiley 

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POD Pos Ge fer oS 

i. ee Sept. 22,1909, 

Mr. Dyer:- 

In re. your memo. 869: Hr. Wrady wishes to know 
the phonograph which you recommend for the purpose of record- 
ing the language of some Asiatic Tribe, which he is about to 
investigate, and after consultation with Messrs. Hird and 
Zaremba, I think he should be advised that a Standard machine 
with a recording horn and reoorder, would fill his require- 

He makes certain other inquiries as to our Asiatic 
records, which I can answer, but he also wishes ifr, Edison's 
photograph and autograph for the purpose of inserting it 
in a book which he igs about to publish. Shall we give him 
these latter? 




Cante Aoatesst” ZYMOTIC,NEW YORK" 
‘es 1352 STUYVESANT. 




Soa NATIONAL FHONOGRAPH CO. on sferonies: 


10 FirtH AVENUE. 


BATES NUMBERING MACHINE ev Mae hy (aA {WY KC Oct. 12-1909, 

Mr, J. F. Scull, 
Legal Department, 
Orange, N. J. 
Dear Sir:-- 

In accordance with your instructions, I have tow 
day ineteua ted our Custom Brokers Messrs. Niebrugge & Day, to pay 
the advanca duty on the ‘Sapphire Blanks under protest, and have ad-= 
vised them that we are placing the matter in the hands of Messrs. 
Comstock & Washburn to contest same for our account. The 
last mentioned concern‘ are willing to handle the matter upon the 
basis of the usual contingent fee ( 50% of the amount recovered). 

T enclose herewith, copy of communication ‘received from 
Messrs. Wiebrugge & Day, also copy of a letter received from the 
Treasury Department addressed to the Collector of Customs, having 

reference to this matter. °° 

Rarity aah Yours vary a); i 

ence/ i ees ee, ie Department. 



Hiebrugge & Day, 

New York, October 8th, 21909. 

Mr. Yalter Stevens, Wanugor, 
Yoroign Departnont, 
National Phono. Co., 
New York City. 
Dear Sir:s- 

‘Te beg to enclose herewith copy of decision of freasury 
Departnent dated October 6th rolative to your Sapphire blanks. 

“e obtained an opinion ?rom tiie Collector as follows:=- 

Hexrchundise not being seni precious stones-vwould not seen to 
be covered by paragraph #112 a 50% Advaloren. 

Kot being suitable for use in cannufnaoture of Jewelry: donb 
lets, artificial synthetio or reconstructed pearlo, rubies or other 
precious otones, would not oeom to be covered by pnragranh £449 at 10 
or 40% Advaloren. 

Not being ready for ueo as parts of phonogrephn, gyramaphones 
graphophones and similar artioclos vould not seem to be covered by 
paragroph #468, at 45% Advaloron. 

Sho proper rate would seen to be 35% advalozen under paragray 
495 as arvicles~--composed of--minerul subataneas<-not deaovratad. ®he 
Appraiser roported as Lollovs:~ 

"Value and beauty make prosiours stones. There ts no herd an 

fant rule as to what to prectong or secisprocious. Thig norchandise te 

unfit for u gem stone and in the opinion of this office Paragraph #112 




is proper olassification". 

In viow of the decinion of? the Treasury Departnent vill you 
kindly take tp the matter of placing this in the honda of your legal 
department or Comstock & Washburn upon the basis of usual contingent 
fee as it seoms to be clearly intimated by the Troastry Departrcnt 
that the matter will have to be trrashed out in the courts and it is 
advisable to have tho protest oxzamined by thé attorneys be fore Piling. 

Until final decision dutieo will be assessed at the rate of 
50% advaloren. 

Yours faithfully, 
Niebrugge & Day. 




90969 69186 

treasury Department, 

Office of the Socretary, Yeashington, Oatober 6, 1909. 



fhe Collector of Custons, 
Now York, N.Y. 


fhe Departuent is in receipt of your letter of the &7th ultimo. 
in whioh, transmitting consular invoice #1753 covering cortain sapph- 
ives said to be intended for use in the construction of phonographig 
instunent you invite gttention to the appraiser's return of tho merehan: 
dise as "Mfrs. Sapohires - 50% - Par. 112". 

You suggest that sapphires are procious atones and are accomingly 
dutiable under paragraph 95 of the tarif? act of August 5,1909, which 
provides for articles composed wholly or in chic? value of oarthy or 
minoral substances, it being adsitted that the sapphires in questton 
are not suitable for nse in the menufaature o? jewelry. 

“hile the dopartuent concurs in your view that ;rocious stones 
are dutiahble either méder paragraph 95 or paragraph 449, it is not 
seti:fied that the sapphires under congidoretion are in fact precious 
stonea, and by reference to the Board's docision of July 16, 1903, Gv. 
5362, T.D. 24677, you will observe that it was held that sapphires were 
dutiable as procions stones oithor directly or by sinmilitude. 

If these stones are only dutiable as precious stones by sinil- 
itude und are not in fact precicus atonos, there is sono merit in 
the return of the appraiser as secdprecious stoneg under paragraph 112, 
anc to the end thnit this questicn may be roviewed by she board, and if, 
deexed expedient, by the Courts, you are hereby directod to aesess duty 
upon tho sapphi:es covered by invoice #1763 under paragraph 112 at the 
rate of 50% advulorem. 

The inclosure of your letter ig herewith returned. 
(Signed) C.D. Hilles, 

4eting Socretazy, 

(1 inclosure) 

SOV». /Pert-es 

Mr, Dyer :- 

October 13, 1909. 

Your memorandum herewith: On June 15th, 
1909, Mr. Wm. Pelzer, Mr. Westee and yourself, were 
elected directors d the La Compania Idison Hispano 
Americana, On the same day you were elected Bresi- 
dent, Wm. Pelzer, Vice-president, and Mr. Westee 
Secretary and Treasurer. 


Tt wd eee 

aul October 19th, 1909, 

Mr. Wilsonie 

I return you herewith correspendence in 
reference to the duty on sapphire blanks. ‘The duty of 
50% fixed by the custonna authorities has been protested 
and the matter is now in the hands of Comstock & Washburn 
on the usual 50% contingent fee. 

In reference to your query as to the duty to 
be charged on rough sapphires, 1 consulted with hr. 
Wiebrugge, one of our custom brokers, and he hus assured 
me that rough sapphires would come in free, under Para- 
graph 555, "diamonds and other vrecious stones, rough or 
uncut and not advunced in condition or value from their 
natural state by cleaving, splitting, cutting or other 
process, including glaziers' or engruvers' diamonds not 
pet." I agree with ir. Niebrugee. 

lt sees probable that tne best we can do with 
sapphire blanks would be 55% ad valorem. 

G. FB, Soull. 

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My Mitral Value. 

The doctors tell me that my mitral valve has got a little leak, 
That the hinge is old and rusty and it has a little creak. 
They tell me that the blood regurgitates 
Because my little valve don’t closely shut its gates. 
They tell me that my heart is big and crowded out of place; 
That I must go it very easy and slacken up my pace, 
They tell me to go so slow and easy and to keep so very cool 
That the world will look in wonder and take me for a fool 
They tell me, and sad is it to relate 
That if I live to be an hundred, I'll die as sure as fate. 
O, these doctors are so funny and yet so very good. 
They wouldn't hurt your feelings, not even if they could. 
The substance of their story when plainly, frankly told 
Is, they gently want to tell me that I am‘ growing old. 
Well, I'll admit the facts and allow them to be true 
But it does n’t cause me worry, nor does it make me blue; 
I've had many years of labor, I’ve had many days of fun, 
And the years I've left behind me, they number Seventy-One. 
And the years I have before me no prophet can foretell 
For I'm feeling young and kiddish, yes, I’m feeling very well. 
And so my little valve, just do the best you can 
While I conceive and formulate a plan. 
You have been so very faithful and been so very true 
That I'll go a little slower, and try to favor you. 
Yes, I'll go a little slower, I’ll not run up the hill 
When I travel on the level, they'll think I’m standing still. 
Whatever that I do, I'll not do it to excess 
But will imitate the schedule of the B, & A. express. 
If I’m due today I'll be along tomorrow, 
If I’m not on time no trouble will I borrow; 
But be assured my little valve, I will do my level best 

: To be a little lazy and let nature do the rest. 

WR. Wills. 
179 Summer Street, 
Boston, Mass. 



Nr. Harry FP. Lier: 


ORANGE. N. de 


In connection with tiie perscnal contract betwecn Mr. Bdison 
and Fred K, Eavson, which you have on tile, Mr. Babson has vilready 
advenccd $10,000 for Mr. Edison's account and has asked me to 
have this’ acount pold. Please Let him have a cheok of your early 
convenience. Tove explained the matter to Py. Edison and be 
approves of this payacnat. 

BLD /TV i. Lb. De 



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MEMO. 1076 TAE, ee ¢ 
Mr. Weber: 12/15/09. 

The following is Mr. Edison's memorandum on the subject 
discussed this morning; which you will please keep most confidential: 
1. Use top floor of Glen Ridge factory. 

Re Start up boiler for heat. Get a fireman who is an engi~ 
neer, so that when we want power he can run engine. 

Be See that there is a Lighting dynamo there when we start 
power plant. 

4. John Ott will design graphiting machine. 

5. John Ott will mkke drawings for copper-plating apparatus 
from instructions of Albert Wurth. 

6. Walter Miller to give John Ott sketches from which to 
design a good recording machine. One will be made, and if 0. K., 
make six more. 

7. Walter Willer will make all experimental masters at 
Glen Ridge. 

8. Design three styles of regular machines, one of which 
shall be mounted in a cabinet of a different type from the Vic- ; 

9. Edison to keep at diamond points. 

10/: Either purchase the dise machinery of Leeds & Catlin 
and ship to Glen Ridge; or if not possible, purchase accumulator 
and one press and probably rolls and mixer for regular diso stuff 
for experimmt only. 

11. Edison and Aylsworth to work up diso with new material. 

12. Aiken to be in charge at Glen Ridge, calling upon Pettit 
for expert advice and assistance. 

As to points 2 and 3 above, I wish you would give them 
immediate attention. As to point 10, I am looking up the advis- 
ability of purchasing the machinery now and if unsuccessful I will 
let you know so that you can order the mohinery direct. 

be. LL. D. 

(Copy to Mr, Wilson) 

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1909. Phonograph - Edison Business Phonograph 
Company (D-09-41) 

This folder contains correspondence and other documents relating to the 
Edison Business Phonograph Co. Included are items pertaining to company 
stockholders and directors, taxes, and sales. Also included are memoranda 
concerning research and development and a circular by Edison explaining the 
motor sold with the business phonograph. Among the correspondents is Frank 
L. Dyer, president of the Edison Business Phonograph Co. 

Approximately 80 percent of the documents have been selected. The 
items not selected consist primarily of letters of transmittal and 






Board of Assessors of Cook County, 

Chicago, Ill. 
gentlemen: = 

This Company has recently paid taxes for the year 
1908, on the valuation of $5000. I write this letter to inform 
you that since September 12, 1908, the Wdison Business Phono~ 
graph Company has not ween engaged in business in the State of 
Illinois, and since that tine has owned no property in that 
state, having disposed of all its assets in Chicago, which 
were all it had in the State of Illinois on the date I have . 

I would thank you very much to acknowlddge receipt 
of this letter, and also to let me know if your reoords have 
been changed to correspond with the facts above set forth, 80 
that ‘there will be no assessment against this Company for the 
year 1909. 

Yours very truly, 



Jan. 27, 1909. © 




Har. &, 1909. 

Thomas A. Elison, Wsq., 

LT anclose report on the Edison BSuginess Phonograph 


the mouth of January, 1909, shoving net profits of $601.32. 

Of course aba Loss, but there to be a larger 

prorit sn total sales of over JL 3090.00. iore and more T an become 

dng convinced that in owt cagarness in She pest to meet the ice of 

improvenents without corsespondineday 

ank vy mldin: 

Rnorcusing bho sel#ine price we 

otfering too umeh or te moley 


and offering dealers sutfteiont profit to cuuble thom to 

SLL the 

evorsPfulle Apndle the business. Tt is eas: cnough te s 


machines, put the diffieulty is to keep them sold after they are 

once pus out. 

Yours very truly, 







Mr. Dura 0 3/15/09, 

O vou herewith a memorandum from Mr. Walle r’, 

br ing up PB algce sion of Mr. Westee, that the Edison Business 
onogray eco. should be brought back as a department of the National 
Phonoggl is Co. You will remember the separate corporation was 

a in order t aa with various State laws when we were ~ : i 
Fa rat in cee in different cities. The necessity for 

a sepafifte company does not now exist, but my personal opinion 

Fh Baas although we might save so-e expense, it would be unwise to 

nge back now. However, I would like to have your views in full. 

yp FLD/TW . Fei. Dey. an 
\eyy ih 

Enc- Ms 


“Myr. Dyer: 
Some time ago the matter of discontinuing the Edison Business 
Phonograph Co. and simply making this a Department as it was 
Me bugger kL 
previously. “ir. Westee asked me whether anything had been done. 
I believe the idea is that this would do away with a lot of book 

keeping and other separate records, thus reducing expense. 

3/10/09. I. W. W. 










Cini GE VB June the 7th, 
__C.L.H. st ee f “a ate 

Mr. Frank I. Dyor, 

As the proposition which has 
peen offered me by another coanpany seens 
to be one in which I can wake e much larger 
Selary than T am now making, and where it 
will undoubtedly benefit me physicully, I 
wish to tender my resignation to txuke effect 
next Saturday. 

I am sure you will not blame me 
for taking this step, as it is a watter of 
money with me just at present and bright 
prospects for a good investment. 

Thanking youn for the way you have 
treated we in the past, and sincerely trusting 
that you will heve tne sane friendly feeling 
toward me, I beg to ramain, 

Yours very truly 

Row $40 


June 9, 1909, 

i, Charles =. Hibbard, 
My dear ir. Hibbard! 
Your letter of the 7th inst. has been received, 
aa, as you have evidently made up your mind at'ter careful consider- 
ation, to sever your relations with us, I will have to accept 
your resignation. | N 

Iovish you svecess in your new field, and an, 

Yours very truly, ‘ - 
PLD/IWY - President. | [ 

Oct. 21,1909 rece fe 
Mr. Frank L. Dyer: 
Desr Sir;- 

I_ quote from a letter just received 
from E. C. Barnes, Chicago dealer. 

"I understand that the New United 
States Phonogreph Company (lr. Hibbard) are 
ready to put our their eight minute records 
within thirty deys. They have elready begun to 
Solicit for commercial machines in Chicago, 
Are not promising delivery but just saying 
"Wait for it", I haven't seen the men nor have 
I heard his name, but several of my customers 
have told me about it, " 

In this connection I would like to Bey 
thet certainly as we have discussed it before 
we should have a man designing a complete new 
machine for us realizing that it will take a 
long time for us to satisfy everyone in regard to 
& new Model and try it out, 

Is there any hope of heving a person 
detailed on this work? 

N.C Durand. 



Cable thes CctisomNeEYorhe.” 


— Lome GF Odlisore 

Qnanges Mp December 15th, 1909, 



The Universal Electric Motor sold with 

my Business Phonograph has been designed 
to operate on any class of commercial a 
lighting current--whether direct or alter- 
nating—-110 or 220 volts without the 
substitution of sevarate wire resistances 
for different electrical conditions. By 
means o€ the one resistance on my Uni- 
versal Motor having a sliding contact to 
vary it,. all conditions are taken care 

of making the motor strict? universal. 
Under all of these electrical conditions 
the amowmt of. current ordinarily con- 
sumed by the Universal Motor has beon 
found to be less than one quarter of 
anvampere, which is about half of the 
current consumption of former motors 
Sold with the Businoss Phonograph. 

{ - me if ae 

, a“ 
— Decenber 17th, 1909. 
Hire Frank L. Dyer, 
Dear Sir; 
I understand frow “Mr. Schiffl that he 
is about to remove his work to the Laboratory, end 
will await instructions from vir. Hdison or yourself 
in regard to new work that he is to underteke. 
Nothing kas been done es yet upon-my new 
Business Phonograph, end I mention this to you so 
that one of his first tasks vill be to £0 on with the 
design of our new machine. 
Yours very truly, 

HOD/aL ny) 

re ors 
lu | 


IN x6un REPLY ORANGE. Ne be 
4100 iis 
Mr. Durand: coo a 12/27/09. 

I hand you herewith a memorandum from Mr. Dyer Smith, 
dated December 24th, in which he reports on the patents relating to 
alternating current motors. He reaches the conclusion that no 
patent exists that contains claims which would be infringed by the 
manufacture by us of the motor that Mr. Bliss hes invented. He 
refers to a number of patents in his memorandum, and I suggest that 
you have him order copies of these patents and submit them to Mr. 
Bliss for his examination. _ Possibly Mr. Bliss may be familiar 
with them. In view of this memorandum, I do not see any reason why . 
you and Mr. Bliss should not go right ahead and formulate your 

plans, and after you have done so, bring them up to me and we will 

| (2) 

: talk them over. What I mean by this is that you and he want to 
drav up a complete report as to exactly what you propose to do, 
what typos of motors you propose to build, how much machinery 
you have to buy, the number of employees that wild be necessary _ 
and the character of dravings which will have: to’ vo made; and when 
you have done this we can take up the matter for ‘Pinal and definite 
instructions and then submit the whole thing’ to ur, Edison. 

FLD/TWW Pe Le Ds A - 
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J Cah an, Poel eres 
) é \ 
\ yy? 

Deo. 31,1909, 

Mr. Dyer:= 
Your meuo. No. 1093; I find that according 

to the by-laws of the Business Fhonograph Company, the vice- 

president must be a director, and therefore, a stockholder. 

The only stockholders of reeord are yourself, & shares, 

Mr. Wilson, one share, and ‘fr. Westee, one share. The eas- 

jest plan to make ifr. Durand vice-president would be to 

have ‘ir. Wilson's share transferred to him, and have lr. 

Wilson resign as direator, 28 yell as vice-president. If, 

however, you wish to eaeaeh Mr. Wilson as a director, we 

ean either nomend the by-laws , which san be done by vote of 

the directors on thrae days! notice, to ereuide fora 

fourth director, or we can remove the condition that the 

vice-president shall also be a diractor. nder the laws 

of lew Jersey, tha President must be a director, and though 

nothing is said of the vice-president, it would seem that 

unless you wish Mr. Durand to be Viva=prabident in name only, 

he snould have the some qualifications as the president, in 

case it should be, necessary for him to act as, president. 

I would advise that either ny first suggestion that 
fr. Wilson resign as director, or my second suggestion, that 
four directors be vrovided for, he adopted. 

G. I. Soull. : | 
GFS/ ARK. * 

1909. Phonograph - Edison Phonograph Works 

This folder contains correspondence and other documents relating to the 
business of the Edison Phonograph Works. Among the items for 1909 are 
memoranda by Peter Weber, superintendent of the Edison Phonograph Works, 
regarding shop orders, production schedules, and specifications; letters by 
Frank L. Dyer, general manager, concerning stockholders; and a list of 
storekeepers by J. M. Zaremba, manager of the Stock Department. 

Approximately 40 percent of the documents have been selected. The 
items not selected include routine memoranda regarding shop orders and 
routine letters of transmittal and acknowledgment. Also not selected is 
correspondence about labor unions and proposed employee liability legislation 
in New Jersey. 


. ; é Jan. 14, 1909. 
Ur, Watersant Foy Dhow : = Nov : 

F - Beginnin; at once, arrange Lor +he Folloring schedule 
of maciinas, atsacimants ana partsi- 


> Garry 1,000 saecrines in stock, produce parts for 750 ma~ 
chines (but go slowly on those parts siiat may be changed on a new. 
model) and basa tne asserbling of maci:ines on the snipnent of pren~ 
vious ‘sak. 


This machine will be superseded by tie Hodel C (The Model 
C machine is‘ also to be furniaied on orders from the Tecnnical Sup- 
ply Company). =- . S : 

: .- Hereafter, all top plates for iiodel CG machines saall be 
drilled for the comoination attaciment, so thot the Hodel C can be 
converted into a Hocel D macnine at any tins. 

Arrange tol bring up the regular stock to 1 000 machines, 
produce varts for 500 machines, and base tie assenbling on previous 
week's siipment. ; 

; : 2 

Carry in stock 7,500 machines. Produce parts for 2,000 
machines per week, and govern the asserbling by previous weoelk's 
shipments; so that wns stock of 7,500 zaci.ines pneall be kept in- 

The storelseper sust arranrse tie stock of maciiuines in 
suc. a manner ‘M® the oldest mactines will be taken out first 
for snipment. 


Hold MoDaL B: 

Wa now have 700 of these in stock. Discontinue making 
new main shafts, as we neve a large stock on wand, and we expect 
& great many refurned in exchenge for tne 2°87 attaciments. Also 
discontinve ‘drilling bodies. : ; 3 

The following parts are used exclusivaly on the Hodel B’ 
machine, and the Assexvly Stock Room has tne following quantities: 

Swing arm contercenmsc mene 300 . 
Hain shalt centernsenennenccr= 1,000 

Lils levers tren =~. 5,500 
Tift lever screws & washers-~~10,000 
(Taese screws and washers are 
also used on tne Business 
_ phonograpn) nak 
Locking devicennsrtet errr rr 2,000 
Locking device springs-~r---2> 1,500 
Locking device studsecs--995> 300 
Back rodiennw cer cssssecsrr cen 500 ; 
Discontinue assembling until stock is reduced to 500; then base 


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ir, Watarman: Jan. 14, 1909.: 

the asserbling on aninmients of pravious week, to keap tris stock 

The production of rarts nas. to be governed by tie orders 
for oxtra Farts, in addition to sia n ber of machiuinas sizipyed. 

. Acbumulats a stock of 100, auc maintain dts. 

Carry a stock of 3,000. machines. roducs parts for 1,560 
machines. per week, and basa the asservling on pr eviews. veel? 8 Bhip- 

Storekeener also arrange is stock so tuat the oldest ma-~ 
chines. will be the first snipped out. 



We hava in stock 139 machines. 
Discontinus pater re ing or. making parts. until stocl: is re- 
duced to 25, unless the filling of repair orders renders it neces- 
sary t> make varts heroes G cat tine. 

Carry 25 in stock, and only. make parts Sor rapair orders. 

Carry 500 in stock, and bring tlroug:. parts for 200 ma- 
chines par week, and base asseiubling on previous week's snipnents, 
Bo as to maintain a stock of 500. 

Discontinue asseribling until stock is reduced to 20,000, 
Bring parts tnurough for 5,000 nar week, and govern tha asseribiing 
so that tne ‘stock of 20, od0 attaciaents shall be maintainsd. 

Gat vp a stock of 10, ,;000, then produce parts at ture rate 
of 2,500 pay week, and base assembling on siiprents of previous 


Get stock ux to 1,000, then produce parts 1% the rate of 
500 Der weelt, and asserble bo raplecs srisnents oz previous week. 


Carry 25 in stock; and base tgmoork asselbling on sniv- 
ments of provious sveolc. ‘ 

——~—- | 

Jon, 14, 190¢ 

llr. Vaterpionie 
HODID FH MEP ie wis: 
ee “A ee 
Mg We nara avout 30 000 in stock. 
. Assalivla at rave ost 5,000 a week. 

Bring parts threw at tha rate of 7,500 ner week. 
TODS C Reser onue 375: 
Keep up 2 stock o2 10,000, 

Ges out borts at tho rate of 5,000 nar week, and base 
assertpling on previous wets: aeons e.” 

ea oe 

SEUL Dovel AP TwsEs O'CLOCH OF SATUTDAYS, and in casa tio schedule 
of any of tiiese machines or parts sl.ovwld 2 larga: tlien can be car- 
riec out o1 a strictly day-work basis, Lorevien vill please advise 
ma abouts it. 


tte y 


P. Wainm. 

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Cop; to all Loreen, iessrs, Yowrens, hee: ‘is, Hird, Van Winkle, 
Zarariba and Rodfearn. 

' Also to Messrs. Dear and ilson, ' 



Not found 

Mr. Bradley 
ir. Dishaw 
iy. Moore 

Mr. Hopper 
Mr. J. Hooper 

ir. Norris 

Mr. Holer 

Mr. Cuenin 


JAN. 25-09, 


from Nos. 1 to 4 ind. 

" 5 "2250 (8 
i 12521 " 2500 " 
2 2501 "3750 " 

" 3751 "5000 " 
" 500 =." 6250 "| 
" 6251 "7500 " | 
" 750L "8750 
" 8751 10000 " 




Jan, 29, 1909. 

This is to advise you that I have appointed ir. C. 
Schiffl my essistant in all engineering work. : 

Hereatter all designs of articles nanufacturad will 
be made under ‘ils supervision in the Enginesring Dept. 

All experimental work must be done in strict accord- 
ance with drawings or other instructions supplied by Nr. Schiffl or 
myselZ, and under no circumstances snould changes be made in experi~ 
ales work until such changes have been recorded by him and approved 

y me, 

As soon as the experimental :iodel has been finished 

and accepted, a manufacturing or production order will be placed in 
. the shop covering ‘the quantity to be manufactured. 

All work necessary to manuzacture products of any 
kind must be done in strict accordance with drawings, specifications 
and assembling lists furnished by the Chief Dravghtsman, by. HT, 
Oliver. : 

Should 4% be desired to make any change in.a model which 
is being manufactured, tne matter must ba taken up With moe The 
change must not be made, however, until you receive from slr. Oliver 
a nev drawing, specification or List showing the change. 

' PRTER Weber, 
Copy to Messrs. Dyer and Wilson. — 



909 Fob. 2, 1909. 
{ om eas ys (VWQopree 

Referring to the factory schedulo for machinss and 
parts called for by my memorandum of January 14, please note that 

the same is hereby withdrawn and that tho following schedule takes 
its place:- 

Mr. Waterman! ~ 

Gif PHONOGRAPHS: Carry 500 in stock, ready for snipment, 
and 500 more in Testing Departmant, ready to be daliverad to Stock 
Rocm when required. Carry finished parts in stock sufficient to as~- 

Berible 1,000 machines, but go slowly on such parts as may be changed . 

when the combination machine is’ adopted. Base assembling on ship- 
ments mads during previous week. 

STANDARD PHOMOGRAPHS, i10DSL C: Carry 500 in stock, ready 
for shipment, and 500 in Testing Departn2nt, ready to be delivered 
to Stock Room when required. Carry finisied parts in stock, suffi- 
cient to assemble 2,000 machines. Base’ asseribling of machines on 
shipments made during the previous week. 

- STANDARD PHONOGRAPHS, WQDEL D: Carry 1,000 in stock ready 
for snipuent, and 1,000 in Testing Department, roady to be delivered 
to Stock Room waen required. Carry finished parts in Btock, suffi-~- 
cient for 5,000 machines. Base assembling of machines on shipments 
mads during the previous week. , : 

HOME PHOMOGRAPH, MOD B: Carry 150 in stock, ready for 
Bhipment, and 100 in Testing Department, ready to be delivered to 
Stock Room when required. ‘Garry sufficient finished parts in stock 
to assemble 1,000 machiness Base assembling of machines on ship- 
ments made during previous week. : 

HO? PHONOGRAPH, MODAL C: Garry 25 in shag ae | ready for 
shipment, and 25 in Testing Department, ready to be de ivered to 
Stock Room when required. Carry finished parts in stock, suffi- 
cient to assemble 250 machines. Base assembling of machines on 
shipments of previous week. 

HOM PHONOGRAPH, MOD#L D: Carry 1,00f) in stock, ready 
for shipment, and 1000 in Testing Department, ready ‘to be de~ 
livared to Stock Room wien required. Carry sufficient finished 
parts in stock to assemble 5 000 machines. Base assembling of 
machines on gaipmantsof previous week. 

TRIUMPH PHOHOGRAPHS, MODEL B: Carry 25 in stock. Base 
assembling and finished parts ¢n shipments of previous week. 

_ TRIUMPH PRONOGRAPHS, HODSL ¢: Carry 10 in stock ready 
for shipment, ard 10 in Testing Departient, ready to be delivered 
to stock waen required. ‘Carry sufficient Pinished parts in stoc 
to asseuble 100 machines. Base assembling on snipments made dur- 
ing previous week. 7 : : 

TRIUMPH PROSOGRAPHS, HODEL Ds Carry 100 in stock, ready 
for siipment, and 100 in esting Department, ready to be. delivered 
bo stock Wien required. Carry sufficient finisbed parts in as 
to assenble'1,000 machines. Beno-aaseubling on shipments ma 
during previous wealce : 


ere Oe oman 

ewe ew 

. ‘ (2) 
Mr. Waterman:- Fob. 2, 1909. 
STAHDARD ATTACHYENTS: Discontinue assembling altogether. 
until present stock of finished attachnents is reduced to 5,000. 

Then baso assembling on weekly shipments. Carry sufficient Pinished 
parts in stock to asserble 10,000 machines. 

HOMH ATTAGIZIEITS: Discontinus assembling altogether until 
present stock of finishad attacimants is raducsd to 5,000. Base 
assembling on weekly siiipnents. Carry sufficient finished parts in 
stock to assemble 10,000 machines. 

TRIUHPH ATTAGIENETS: Discontinue assembling altogether un-~ 
til prasent stock is reduced to 500. Base assembling on weakly ship- 
mants. Carry finkh&nod parts in stock, sufficient to assemble 2,500 

machines. ; 

RAPRODUCINS, MOMd, C: After providing for all machines 
complete excent reproducers, We nave a stock of 10,472. This is 
sufficient for zrasont require:ients, therefore, the quantity to be 
gotten out weekly sould ba based on shipments, so that the amount 
in stock can pe kept up to 10,000. , 

REPRODUCERS, MODEL H: After providing for all machines 
and attaciuaents conplate excapt reproducers, we have a stock of 
9,979. Tais is pufvicient for prasent requiranents, therefore, the 
quanthty to be gotten out weekly snovld be based on Buiipments, s0 
that thus amount in stock can be kept up to about 10,000. 

In arranging to carry and accwiwlate the diffarent quanta~ 
ties of machinas and attacimien 
tities already in stock should be taken into consiceration, and if 
thers ava more in stock than the number called for, no more sould 
be assoeriblad until stock is reduced to quantities specified, or if 
thera im are less in stook tnan called for, only a sufficient addi«. 
tional numbar suould bs’ adsenbled to bring the total quantity up 
to the amount specified. Ags quantitios galled for, to be kept in 
stock, ara neducad by waekly shipments, additional ones should come 
tarough to keep the stock up to the specified numbsr. 


Copy to all foramen and Hossrs- Hird, Zaremba, Leeming, Youmans, 
Redvearn and Van Winkle. 

Also Measra, Dyar and Wilson. 

ts above specified for stock, the quan- 


alg San 


‘Please note that the fol 

rea Sat | 

ba closed February 28, 1909. 

b TAE, One. —Or9 
1909 Feb. 26, 1909. J 

lowing shop ordars will 

tee ee 

The name opposits avery nunber signifies to whom the order 

bearing that number was issued:~ 

3388, Brodie, 
3389, Jamison, 
3390, Schiffl, 
3392, J. Riley 

722, Driscoll 
Driscoll, 723, 
732, Goodwin 

733, B. L. Williams, 52 
734, Driscoll, 

736, J.Riley, 
Schize1, 737, 
738, A. Wurth, 
739, A. Wurth, 
740, Nehr, 
74%, Nehr, 
742, Nonr, 
743, Sturm, 

144, Sturm, 

745, Sturm, 
746, Sturm, 
747, Sturm, 
748, Sins, 

2291, Driscoll, 
2408, Gall, 

2487, Baldwin, 
2488, Luhr, 

2492, Loder, 

2517, O. Weber, 
2518, O° Weber, 
251.9, QO. Webar, 
2520, Watsrman, 
2521, Watorman, 
2523, Goodwin,’ 
2524, Goodvin, 

2525, McCulloch, 2953) NeCullouch 



5593, Dishav, 
5594, Brodie, 
5395, Brodie, . 5410, Dally,” 

2396, Brodis, 3411, J. Pelzer; 


3597, Googrin, 
3398, Dishaw,. 

749, Digshnav, 827, Nehr, 
"50, ¥ H. llier, 842) Yurth 
rol, VW. E. Miller, ee Goodwin, 

V. H. Miller 847) Goodvin 
53) Mehr, i 853, Goodwin; 
"54, C0. Payne, 856, lHcCullouch, 
"55, Goodwin, - : 860, Dempsey, _. 
"56, A. Wurth, 870, B.:L. Williams, 
57, HeCullouch, bie Ni das er 
‘59, Byrnes 87 o Le ¥ ems 
a, ten, i 3 875; one y : 
é2, Wurth Bl, Goodwin 
"41 Wy H, Willer, 85, Hird, ’ 
poe HeCvlioucn, Hn ao 
VE, EROS 2) Sins 
"66, Aylesworth, 896, Nottie 
"OL; Walter iiller, | 899) Driscoll, 

r93, Moyar 
£4, Go odwin, ; 


900, Goodwins 

2640, Requa, £887, Dempsey, 

2¢47, Nehr, 2890, Lubr, | 

é739, Nehr,. 2391, Luar, 

2799, Nohr, 2894, 0. Weber, 

2847, Dr. Tessier 2992, Driscoll. | 
2849, buhr, 2903, B. lL. Willaams, 9 
6935, Ajleacorth 2904, Traghagen, 

2947, Bil. Williams, £909, Hepworth, 
9948, 3. L. Willions, 2913, Driscoll, 

2249, B. L. Witiona, 2017, W. Willidns, | 
Z9SL; NoCullouch, Basa) Lahr, 

2350, Dero 

2952, NeCullouch, pe eas 



. (2) Feb. 

2526, NeCvil1 ouch, 2978, Tlivbard, 

2527, >riscoll, 2595, Driscoll, 
2528, Dempsey, 2522, Wurth, 
2529, Helone, 2633, Nottie, 
2530, Parkuarst, 2630, “aserman, 
2552 Parkhurst, 2638 HeCullozeh, 
2533, Parkhurst, 2656, 0, Webor, 
2554, Barber 2662, Goodwin, 
2535, 2679, Oliver 
2536) 2685, Driscoli, 
2537, 2690, Goodwin 
2538, 2696, Lune, 

2540, 3 2697, Otto Veber, 
2541, 2 2710, Eilar, 
2542, | 2728, O3t, 

2543, 2729, Luor, 

2544) 2738, Lodar 

2545, 2745, 3. 2. Willians, 
2546, 2750, Baldwin, ; 
2547, 2757, Schifs1} 
2548, 2764, Scnirs1, 
2549, i 2767, Reaua 
2550, Heri2ton, 2772, 0. Waber, 
£551, Bradloy 2786, Baldwin,. 

2553, 3. I. Wliiiaw2788) Nenr, 
2554, NeCxllowc:, 28207 Halot 

2555, intwistle,' 2824). tuenstor, 
2559, Doda, 2833, Goodwin, 
2561, Traphagen, 2835, 0. Veber, 
2565, Requa, 2850 Driscoll, 
2564, Disuay, 2842, Luhr, 
2577, Gall, 2862, Coodvin, 
2636, Barbor, 2363, Luhr, 
2637, Raqua, 2872, Nottie, 
2639, iorris, 2880, Baldvin,. 


26, 1809, 

2963, Driscoll, 
2965, 0. Weber 

2967, Goodwin, 

2973, 0. Wobar 

2976, 3, 3. Wiliiene, 
2984, HeCullouch, 
2985, Luur 

Ly _ 8012, Espvorth, 

30L6, Gall; 
3026, 3. I Willians, 

3042, BT. Williaus,. 

3054, Otto Webar, 
3057, Goodwin, 

4002, Lodar, 

4003, Sins, 

4004, Driscoll, 
4006, 3. I, Vellans, 
4008, Loder, 

4020, 3. T. Williams, 
4014, Waterman, 
4015, Goodwin, 

4016, 0. Weber, 
4020, Driscoll, 
4021 ,. Oliver 

4026,. Driscoll, 
4029, Driscoll, 
4050, Driscoll, 
4034, Driacall, 

In future, no Labor or material ean ba charged on. the . 

ZL0p ordars enumorated anova. 

If any ong or riove of theso shop orders B20uUld not be 
closad,, 12 the work coverad by any of these shop orders 
has not yet den conplatad, notify this offics at once. : 

Also turn into this oftics all other Bop orders that 

you may 
plotad and wiich can be closed, 

ava in vour possession on waieh thea work has been com 

Strict attonsion mast %3 given to the abova. 

Gan!l Supt. 



7 od 


a pr nee oe 
REFER TO THIN NUMBER AR Shine. eltrenedgs 


Mr. Westee: 

Regarding the attached Letter from 
of New York, EI suggest you write Mr. Ney 
and saying: 

"It does not appear from the buoky/of the Edison Phonograph Works 
that the Guevantee Trust Co. of New Y4rk is a stockholder of record 
and hence no stautgasnt of ow Lincikglal condition coula be properly 
given you. I would sey, however, /that since August, 1907, no 
such statement has been issued, cfeept to the reguiar Cormercial 
Agencies, from whom you can obtsuAén s copy of thea renort, or, ve 
would be glad to send youfea coyY ahould it appesar that you represent 
a bonn fide stockholder ." 

Do you see ay ovje 
Street having a report o 
undoubtedly get a copy f 
you, let me know, 

%O saying the above? Dur and Brad- 
e Works, the Guarantee Trust Co. could 
them. If any objection occurs: to 

FID/TW! Boi. De 







October 29, 1909, 

Frank L. Dyer, Esq., 
Edison Phonograph Works, 

Orange, HW. J. j 

FRANK Lo vysy j 
Ly dear Mr. Dyer:~ | - went 

I am preparing some affidavits in the case of the 

_ Guaranty Trust Company vs. Lynch relating to the Edison Phonograph 

Works stock and desire the following information: 

What are the numbers of the stock certificates 
representing the 1440 shares, which were held by the Guaranty 
Trust Company prior to January, 1909? How many were there of 
them and how many shares did each represent. 

You will nave no difficulty in giving me these numbers 
with reference to 1430 shares and the other ten shares were 
represented by two certificates, one of which was issued to Paul 
C, Morf and the other to E. D, Phillips, each for five shares, 

I have learned that the gentleman, who came and demanded the 
transfer of five shares to himself and requested a statement 

as to-the condition of the company, is an employee of the 
Guaranty Trust Company. Inasmuch as you have issued this 
statement showing generally the condition of the company to 

these people, I see no reason why I should not ask you to send me 
a copy of it. I desire to inspect it so that I may discuss the 
matter intelligently and I do not want it for the purpose of 

using it in any contemplated action against the Edison Phonograph 

Pe ee 


The matter of adjustment with the parties involved of 
our respective interests so that a sale may be made of the Works 
stock is proceeding slowly and I am a good deal discouraged over 
it. Any you can possibly do this for me to-morrow, so that I 
may have it here Monday, I will be grateful. 

Very truly yours, 

~ “a 
FA —Hited HMK 

a Fk 

any Arcepebagebons Qo wn, 

ie foul, Vaan if Ss oy / / 7. Cgern fony ha 

Poe Jee ifiiae we Ne J23 

D3 Pheer, a 4 > a?) 

Form 21 


Francis Fitch, Esq., 
3C Broad Street, 
New York, N.Y. 
My dear Mr. Pitchi- 

Yours of the 

D OW, oe i 4 

29th ult. was duly 

received, but I was away from the office on Saturday 

and could not answer it then. 
shares of Edison Phonograph Works stock, standing 

in the name of the International Graphophone Company 

I find that the 1430 

are divided into two certificates, the first Mo. 77 

for 520 shares, and the second No, 84 for 910 shares. 

Certificate No. 119 was originally issued to Mr. 

Paul C, Worf for 6 shares, but wae cancelled and a 

‘new certiticate No. 127 was issued to George R. Kissan. 

Certificate No, 120 for 5 shares wos issued to H.D. 


in giving you this information, I do so 

with the understanding that it is not to be used for 

the purpose of any oontemplated 

Edison Phonograph Works, but solely for the purpose 

of effecting, if possible, an adjustment of the stook 

action against the 

question, concerning which we have already had some 


Yours very truly, 


_.. General Manager 

~~ a 

1909. Radio (D-09-43) 

This folder contains correspondence and other documents relating to the 
technical and commercial development of wireless telegraphy or radio. The 
items for 1909 consist primarily of correspondence with the Marconi Wireless 
Telegraph Co. of America regarding the renewal of notes held by Edison. Also 
included are letters of inquiry and items pertaining to former Edison associate, 
Patrick B. Delany, and his "telepost" system. 

Approximately 40 percent of the documents have been selected. The 
items not selected include unsolicited inquiries and most of the 
communications of the Marconi company. 

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wcerenMARCON'. Ladi bourt Building, TELEPHONES, 2243 } BROAD. 
1ON AND A.B.cC, 4 Vaya 4 yy e 5546 
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Thomas A. Edison, Esqe, ik . € we | i » 
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Llewellyn Park, fb yy ; \ 

Orange, Nede Q ee d 4 

Dear Sir: (\pue a : 

When in October last I wrote you aekend that the note of 
this Company held by you and due November lst, should be extended 
for a year, I fully expected that long ere this certain work, par- 
tially arranged for by Come Marconi and which would have brought 
in a large amount of money from the equipment, would have been com= 
pleted, and that therefore no trouble would have arisen in meeting 
this note due May lst, 

For reasons which it is not necessary to give to you, as 
an inventor, my expectations have not been realized, and while I 
am about able to take care of the running expenses of this Company, 

extra matters, such as your note, are today slightly beyond me, 

/ I am therefore writing to ask if you would kindly renew this note 

TAB, -2= 

falling due May lst for one year, provided that interest is paid 
at the rate of 6% per annum. 

The equipment which I spoke of above is, for the present, 
not a matter to place on paper, but if you desire I will personal- 
ly communicate it to you. 

As I expect to be called to England and to be away dur- 
ing the month of April, I write at this early date so that I may 
be apprised of your good will prior to sailing. 

Yours faithfully, 

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He ‘ @) Sept. 20,1909. 



fir. A.C. Clebel, 
Old Curiosity Shop, 
Vauchula, Florida. 

1 Dear Sir:- 
Mr. Dyer has received yours of the 15th inst. 
‘in reference to the value of shares in the Marconi Wireless 
Company of England, and directs me to say that Mr. Edison 
is not interested financially in either this company or the 
corresponding company of the United States, although he has 
sold them an invention. Myr. Dyer is of the opinion that 
the value of the shares in the Wireless Companies is largely 
a speculative one, although of course, there is a possibility 
of large a6eaene if the plans of the promotors work out 
successfully, the risk in regard to this, however, being 
a large one. 

Yours very truly, 

OfPresident . 

GPS/ARK. .” 

SpSea Ee dig _ i eer 

Neca PN oe cette tine tee caees 

aAanacalarhe ese Sib Seka a 

1909. Reiff, Josiah C. (D-09-44) 

This folder contains correspondence by Josiah C. Reiff, a longtime 
associate of Edison who was involved in protracted litigation (George 
Harrington, Josiah C. Reiff. and Thomas A. Edison v. Atlantic and Pacific 
Telegraph Co. et al.) arising from Edison's telegraph work during the 1870s. 
Among the items for 1909 are requests for loans and other favors from 
Edison, as well as updates on the progress of litigation. Some of the letters 
contain marginal notes by Edison, agreeing to loans or discussing other 

Approximately 30 percent of the documents have been selected. The 
unselected items consist of letters from Reiff that duplicate information in 
selected material or that discuss the progress of the litigation but do not 
involve Edison directly. 


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Mr, Dyer Smith: 6/5/09. 

Regarding your memorandum of yesterday, I suggest 
that you telephone Mr. Reiff that Mr. R. N. Dyer is not doing 
regular work for us and therefore wo have no control over his 
time and that I do not see very well how he could be asked 
to look into the matter for Mr. Reiff. 

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1909. West Orange Laboratory (D-09-45) 

This folder contains correspondence and other documents relating to the 
operation of the West Orange laboratory. Included are items regarding drilling 
equipment, other instruments, and chemicals and supplies, as well as letters 
from suppliers acknowledging the receipt of Edison's notes in lieu of immediate 
payment. . 

Approximately 10 percent of the documents have been selected. The 
items not selected include statements, price quotations, acknowledgments and 
receipts, bills of lading, and routine correspondence pertaining to supplies and 

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We Deg to advide you that we have thie~day receizad e 

shipment of carbon on which we quote the fellowing: the 

ere tal 

1 karat ~—— $40. per kt. Coew C 
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13 &@12 kta. 60. 4 18 

2 to 3 " m2. " 

Your attention is respectfully called to the fact that while 
these price 8 are positively know by us to be from ten to fifteen 
dollars a karat lower than others are selling these same goods for, 
we wish particularly to impress upon you that they are équal in every 
particular to the very best that oan be had and, in proof, we should 
gladly submit for your approval a parcel of such sizes as you may 
feel interested in. 

Trusting to be favored with your future orders, we are 

Very truly yours, 


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SwoStundred and Siteen Market Street” 

Lelephone No 530 

February 234, 1909, 

Mr, Peter Brady, 
Edison Laboratory, 
Orange, NH: J, 
Dear Sir:- 
We will be pleased to furnish 

2 bill heads, form 10, not padded, for $4.50, 

Loy! Form 1, Daily Time Tickets 

padded in 100’s, for $12.50, Subsequent lots 

Hoping these prices will bo 
satisfactory, and we shallbe favared with your 

order, we remain, 

Very truly yours, 



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Orange, NJ, 
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Wa bez vo aclnowledge receipt of your favor of the 8th inst., 
and no & tnat you have forwarded notes maitioned to Mr, Edison, at 
Florida, forhis sig mture, and trust the same will arrive sip rly, 

Yours very truly, 

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Orange, I. J, : 

Gentlemen; ant 
We have your letter of the 19th by Nr, Miller 

and observe note has been sent South to Mr, Edison for hig 
Signature, We ‘hope this will come through. quickly, As 
Stated in our letter, we wanted to use this naper Saturday, 
We have some heavy metal bills to pry this week and we hope 
you'will be able to let us haye it ut the firat possible 

Yours truly, 
Ete hon TSH 

Phra: Beak 

Chamber of Commerre of the State of New Pork 

Founded April 5th, 1760, Incorporated by George IIL., Alarch 13th, 1776, 
Re-Incarporated bg the State o& New Pork, April 13th, T7B4; 

J. Epwann SimMONS, President, 
Conne.ius N. Bi1s3, Josern H. Cioate, 

WiLttam ButLen Duncan, Gustay H. Scrwan, 
Sern Low, GroraE F, SEWAnp, 
Joun Crospy Brown, CLEVELAND H. Dovag, 

WILLiaM Bavarp Curtina, JAMES J. HILt, 
Gxronoe F, Barn. 

Wittiam H, Ponren, Treaaurer. N ris Pork, 24th March 1909 . 

Sereno 8. Pratt, Secretary. 

‘Dear Sir: 

IT beg you to accept our thanks for your letter 
of March 22nd, with enclosures and information concerning 
the samples of sapphire handed to you some time since. 

We have written to Mr. P. J. Monahan of Clermont, 
Australia, and suggested that he communicate with the 

National Pnonograpn Company direct. 

Yours very Of, 

H. FP. Miller, Hsq., Secretary 
Laboratory of Thomas A. Edison, 
Orange, New Jerseye 



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PHILADELPHIA, Paw kivvch 30, 1909. 

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Orange, N.d. 
Dear Sir:- 

Referring to our invoice of Februucy 27th for accowt of? 
Thomas A. Zdison, and agreement to accept three and four months 
note thirty days after date of invoice, we hope it will be 
convenient for you to let us have these by Thursday, as we have a 
number of heavy abiipabiona to ineet, and would like to discount 

the paper on that date. 

Youry very truly, 


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Dear Sirs: 


two fractions in their cnstiniatlf per ae tee peing thd itght oll, orf shat | 
Which is of a lighter gravity tna 3 Sr) ey the ses being taken off 

as creosote or heavy oil. A small amount of coal ta present is being 
distilled with three fractions of the oil; in these cases, the first part of 
the heavy oil is collected separately, Kindly advise us whether these are 
the oils of which you wish samples. You must bear in mind in this work that 
these oils would vary considerably, depending upon the tar they were dis- 
tilled from, and this woulda depend on the works from which the oils were ob- 
tained. Therefore, a sample of these oils obtained from us at this time 
might not represent the materials you would obtain at some future date, if 
purchasing in large quantities. We await your further advice before send- 
ing you any of these products. 

Respectfully yours, 

ys 57 Asst. Mgr. 

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and refer fo the Writer, ALLENTOWN, PA. June end/09. wg 

Mr. Thomas A. Edison, 
Orange, N.J. 

Dear Sir:~ 
We acknowledge receipt of note dated May 22na 
due August 20th-09 for $1028.97 and note dated May 22nd 
due Sept. 20th-09 for $1054.04, same'to take care of° 
invoices of April 15th and 22nd and interest on notes 
at the rate of 6% per amum until the maturity of seme. 
We have credited this remittance to your account 
with thanks and appreciate very much your prompt response. 
Very truly, 
Peg One 
Assistant Treasurer. eer 




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Orange, NeJ. 

Dear Sire: 
We bez to acknowledge receipt of yours of the 4th inst., ex- 

Plaining the substances which Mr, Edison is anxious to obtain in order to 
do further work upon, 

While these substances may be in the tar and the fractions of oll ob- 
tained from it, yet the quantities are probably small. We do not believe 
that any work has been done upon American oils to show the various amounts 
present in them, and could give you no idea along this line. Some of these 
products are high boiling ones, and would come principally from very high 
boiling Creosote Oils, more properly called Anthracens Oils, <A very small 
amount of this oil is Obtained in this country, and our branch at Johnstown, 
Pa, Probably has the heaviest oil of any. We should be pleased to send 
you whatever quantity Mr, Edison may need of our Light Oil and Creosote Oil, 
and suggest that you obtain the heavy Anthracene Oil from our Johnstown 
branch. Kindly advise whether you wish 20 gallons each of Lignt O11 ana 
Creosote 0i12, as mentioned in your original letter, 

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1910. Automobile - General (D-10-01) 

This folder contains correspondence and other documents relating to the design and 
operation of automobiles and the use of storage batteries in electric vehicles. Among the items for 
1910 are documents pertaining to Edison's research into the number of electric vehicles on the road 
and the experience of their owners with lead storage batteries. Other letters deal with Edison's 
promotion of trucks using his storage battery. At the end of the folder is an undated draft in Edison's 
hand of a circular for an “Electric Automobile with the New Edison Battery." Among the 
correspondents are Frank L. Dyer, vice president and general counsel of the Edison Storage Battery 
Co., and William G. Bee, sales manager. There are also numerous letters by automobile 
manufacturers such as Babcock Electric Carriage Co., Electric Vehicle Co., Studebaker Automobile 
Co., and Waverly Co.; and by individual owners of electric vehicles. Invoices and account sheets that 
pertain to the upkeep of Edison's automobiles can be found in D-10-42 (Glenmont). 

1910. Automobile - Anderson Carriage Company (D-10-02) 

This folder contains correspondence and other documents relating to the use of Edison 
storage batteries in electric vehicles made by the Anderson Carriage Co. in Detroit, Michigan. 
Included are notes by Edison regarding the weight and efficiency of the vehicles, as well as 
correspondence with William C. Anderson, president of the company, about the outfit, performance, 
and promotion of its Detroit Electric automobile. 

1910. Automobile - Lansden Company (D-10-03) 

This folder contains correspondence and other documents relating to the business of the 
Lansden Co., a manufacturer of electric wagons in which Edison possessed a controlling interest. 
Included is an audit report prepared by the accounting firm of Lybrand, Ross Bros. & Montgomery. 
Also included are memoranda and financial statements and a summary of orders completed and 
received. In addition there are numerous documents pertaining to the promotion of Lansden 
vehicles. At the end of the folder is an undated draft in Edison's hand of a promotional article 
regarding the use of the Edison storage battery in Lansden wagons. Among the correspondents are 
Frank L. Dyer, president of the National Phonograph Co. and vice president of the Edison Storage 
Battery Co.; Leonard C. McChesney, head of the Advertising Department; and John M. Lansden, Jr., 
and other officials of the Lansden Co. 

1910. Battery - Primary (D-10-04) 

This folder contains correspondence and other documents relating to the primary batteries 
produced by the Edison Manufacturing Co. The items for 1910 pertain to the manufacture and design 
of batteries and to sales arrangements with licensed dealers and agencies. Among the 
correspondents is Frank L. Dyer, vice president of the Edison Manufacturing Co. 

1910. Battery - Storage - General (D-10-05) 

This folder contains correspondence and other documents relating to the commercial and 
technical development of Edison's alkaline storage battery. Among the documents for 1910 are 
numerous items in Edison's hand, including a 20-page draft letter to Samuel Insull urging him to 
promote the battery among "our central station people" and a memorandum regarding the proposed 
guarantee on his battery. There are also documents pertaining to the manufacture of batteries and 
the finances of the Edison Storage Battery Co., along with letters concerning the use of the battery 
in submarines, buses, streetcars, railroads, and other applications. Some of the letters refer to the 
proposed use of the battery with the Klaxon automobile horn invented by Miller Reese Hutchison. 

Also included are numerous unsolicited requests for information about the battery, some with 
marginal notes by Edison. At the end of the folder is an undated typescript containing "instructions 
for the proper care of Edison storage batteries" and comparing the Edison battery to the Exide 
battery manufactured by the Electric Storage Battery Co. Among the correspondents are Frank L. 
Dyer, vice president and general counsel of the Edison Storage Battery Co.; William G. Bee, sales 
manager; and business associates Ralph H. Beach, Cornelius J. Field, Miller Reese Hutchison, 
Samuel Insull, Frank J. Sprague, and Walter E. Holland. 

1910. Battery - Storage - Federal Storage Battery 
Car Company (D-10-06) 

This folder contains correspondence and other documents relating to the technical and 
commercial development of battery-powered streetcars by Ralph H. Beach and his Federal Storage 
Battery Car Co. Included is correspondence by Edison, Beach, and Frank L. Dyer, vice president and 
general counsel of the Edison Storage Battery Co., pertaining to streetcar design, performance, 
manufacture, sales, and promotion. Some of the letters express Edison's concern about the 
exaggerated claims made by Beach regarding the life of the Edison storage battery. 

1910. Battery - Storage - Foreign - General (D-10-07) 

This folder contains correspondence and other documents relating to the patenting, 
manufacture, and sale of Edison storage batteries in countries other than the United States and 
Germany. Some of the letters refer to the marketing of storage batteries and the promotion of the 
streetcar business in Japan. There is also a reference to the battery business of Edison's former 
secretary, Alfred O. Tate, in Toronto, Canada. Among the correspondents are Herman E. Dick, John 
T. Morrow, H. F. Parshall, J. P. Morgan & Co. of New York, and Morgan, Grenfell & Co. of London. 
Also included is correspondence with W. R. Grace & Co. and Agar, Cross & Co. regarding sales 
tights for South America. 

1910. Battery - Storage - Foreign - Bergmann, Sigmund (D-10-08) 

This folder contains correspondence and other documents relating to the manufacture and 
Sale of Edison storage batteries by Sigmund Bergmann and his Deutsche Edison-Accumulatoren-Co. 
Included are items pertaining to machinery and material for the batteries, the outfitting of the 
Bergmann Electrical Works, the finances of the Deutsche Edison-Accumulatoren-Co., and the use 
of storage batteries in streetcars. Among the correspondents are Frank L. Dyer, vice president of 
the Edison Storage Battery Co., and O. A. Rogers, who was sent to Berlin to assist Bergmann in 
preparing machine tools for the improved battery. 

1910. Battery - Storage - Foreign - Moyes, John W. (D-10-09) 

This folder contains correspondence and other documents relating to John W. Moyes of 
Toronto, Canada, and his negotiations with the Edison Storage Battery Co. for the manufacture and 
sale of storage batteries in Canada. Included are versions of an agreement between Moyes and 
Edison, correspondence between Moyes and Frank L. Dyer, vice president of the Edison Storage 
Battery Co.; and items pertaining to Moyes's interest in obtaining the Canadian rights to Edison's 
cement patents. 

1910. Battery - Storage - Metals (D-10-10) 

This folder contains correspondence and other documents relating to Edison's interest in 
obtaining metals such as lithium, cobalt, and bismuth for possible use in his alkaline storage battery. 

The correspondents include American Smelting and Refining Co., E. Schaaf-Regelman, and Merck 
& Co. There are also letters from individuals possessing information about sources and prices of 
bismuth. Some of the letters contain marginal notations by Edison. 

1910. Battery - Storage - Promotional (D-10-11) 

This folder contains correspondence and other documents relating to the promotion of Edison 
storage batteries. Included are "talking points" and other promotional descriptions, many in Edison's 
hand; advertisements printed for the Edison Storage Battery Co.; and material regarding an “ideal 
tour" up Mount Washington in New Hampshire made by two automobiles equipped with Edison 
storage batteries. Also included are items concerning the plans of advertising executive, Converse 
D. Marsh, to promote the use of Edison batteries in cooperation with electrical manufacturers and 
central stations. Among the correspondents are Frank L. Dyer, vice president and general counsel 
of the Edison Storage Battery Co.; Leonard C. McChesney, head of the Advertising Department; and 
William G. Bee, sales manager. 

1910. Battery - Storage - Tests (D-10-12) [not selected] 

This folder contains reports and memoranda concerning tests made on Edison storage 
batteries. Included are requests for chemical analyses of solutions along with reports of road tests 
performed with electric vehicles. Most of the laboratory memoranda are addressed to Ignacy 
Goldstein, laboratory employee and chemist, and concern the composition and specific gravity of 
electrolyte solutions. The road test reports contain information on equipment, routes, and the 
performance of cells. 

1910. Cement (D-10-13) 

This folder contains correspondence and other documents relating to the business of the 
Edison Portland Cement Co. and to the manufacture and sale of cement. Included are letters 
concerning competitive bids, litigation, and efforts to cooperate with other cement manufacturers in 
controlling prices and supply. There are also items regarding negotiations with John W. Moyes to 
manufacture cement in Canada and a letter announcing the death of the company's president, 
Robert H. Thompson. Among the correspondents are Walter S. Mallory, vice president (later 
president) of the Edison Portland Cement Co.; Frank L. Dyer, general counsel; and E. Meyer, 
manager of sales. Related material can be found in D-10-09 (Battery, Storage - Foreign - Moyes, 
John W.). 

1910. Cement House (D-10-14) 

This folder contains correspondence relating to the widely publicized development of Edison's 
poured concrete house. Much of the material consists of unsolicited inquiries regarding the unique 
nature, quick construction, and low cost of the projected house. Also included are requests to view 
or display Edison's one-quarter scale model as well as correspondence concerning concrete 
construction generally. Many of the unsolicited letters contain Edison marginalia, usually indicating 
that a prepared circular be sent in response. Related material can be found in D-10-32 (Edison, T.A. 
- Unsolicited Correspondence - Business - Cement House). 

1910. Copyright (D-10-15) 
This folder contains correspondence and other documents relating to copyright matters 

involving Edison and his companies. Included are items pertaining to copyright legislation, film 
scenarios, and recordings. There are also letters concerning a copyright dispute involving the title 

of the film /n the Nick of Time produced by the Edison Manufacturing Co. 
1910. Edison, T.A. - General (D-10-16) 

This folder contains correspondence and other documents relating to a variety of subjects. 
Included are documents that deal with more than one subject or that do not fall under the main 
subject categories in the Document File. Among the items for 1910 are general expense reports for 
the Edison companies; minutes of the companies’ centralized Manufacturing Committee; and a five- 
page report sent to Edison while he was vacationing in Fort Myers, Florida. One letter acknowledges 
Edison's donation toward the erection of a statue honoring the French author, the Comte de Villiers 
de I'lsle-Adam. Another suggests a meeting between Edison and Wilbur Wright. There is also a letter 
from Edison's sister-in-law, Alice Stilwell Holzer, announcing the death of her husband, William 
Holzer. In addition, there are items pertaining to Edison's interest in a hearing aid called the 
“acousticon" and documents relating to his attendance at the convention of the Association of Edison 
Illuminating Companies. Among the correspondents are Booker T. Washington, Hudson Maxim, and 
Charles M. Schwab. There are also letters from longtime Edison associates, including Herman E. 
Dick, William K. L. Dickson, William J. Hammer, Edward H. Johnson, Thomas C. Martin, James 
Ricalton, and Charles P. Steinmetz. Related material can be found in D-10-13 (Cement). 

1910. Edison, T.A. - Articles (D-10-17) 

This folder contains correspondence requesting Edison to write articles, correspondence 
relating to books and articles about Edison and his inventions, and letters from journalists seeking 
to interview Edison or soliciting his statements for publication. Among the items for 1910 are 
numerous letters pertaining to the two-volume biography, Edison: His Life and Inventions, by Frank 
L. Dyer and Thomas C. Martin. Also included are letters regarding a proposed biography of Edison 
for young readers, items concerning the sale of a notebook of escapement drawings executed by 
Edison in 1872, correspondence from Hudson Maxim and Samuel tnsull, and a draft by Edison of 
an article on "the flexible wealth of the United States." 

1910. Edison, T.A. - Book and Journal Orders 

This folder contains correspondence and other documents relating to the ordering of books 
and journals. Included are renewals for Edison's journal subscriptions, as well as book and magazine 
orders for members of the Edison family. Among the documents for 1910 are items concerning 
works on religion and spiritualism and on electric railways. 

1910. Edison, T.A. - Clubs and Societies (D-10-19) 

This folder contains correspondence relating to Edison's membership and activities in social 
clubs and professional societies. Among the documents for 1910 are several letters from the 
American Institute of Electrical Engineers, to which Edison donated a diary by Samuel F. B. Morse. 
There are also several invitations to the annual banquet of the Ohio Society of New York, which 
Edison declined on account of his deafness. In addition, there are letters from the National Electric 
Light Association, the Committee of One Hundred of the American Association for the Advancement 
of Science, and other professional societies; automobile and booster clubs; and religious, civic, and 
philanthropic organizations. Some of the items contain marginal notes by Edison. 

1910. Edison, T.A. - Employment (D-10-20) 

This folder contains correspondence from or about employees and prospective employees. 
There are also letters soliciting Edison's opinion regarding former employees seeking employment 
elsewhere. Most of the correspondence consists of requests for employment at the West Orange 
laboratory, some in answer to newspaper advertisements. Among the items for 1910 are documents 
pertaining to the employment of Sydney W. Ashe, Donald M. Bliss, Newman H. Holland, and violinist 
Arturo Nutini. There are also letters concerning the estates of Charles Batchelor and John Kruesi. 

1910. Edison, T.A. - Family (D-10-21) 

This folder contains correspondence and other documents relating to the health, finances, 
and activities of Mina Miller Edison and other family members. Among the items for 1910 are letters 
pertaining to the financial difficulties of William Leslie Edison, the legal problems of his Edison Auto 
Accessories Co., the finances of Thomas A. Edison, Jr., the many charitable and household 
activities of Mina Miller Edison, and the redemption of her bonds in the Edison Electric Illuminating 
Co. and Edison Phonograph Works. There is also material concerning an automobile accident 
involving Charles Edison and the expenses for a summer camp attended by Theodore Edison. 

1910. Edison, T.A. - Financial (D-10-22) [not selected] 

This folder contains routine correspondence and other documents relating to Edison's 
personal investments and other financial interests. Included are letters pertaining to bond 
transactions; the dissolution of the Ott Manufacturing Co.; and Edison's holdings in the Edison 
Portland Cement Co. and its subsidiary, the Pohatcong Railroad Co. There are also items concerning 
the Burroughs Adding Machine Co. and the Edison Chemical Works. 

1910. Edison, T.A. - Insurance (D-10-23) [not selected] 

This folder contains routine correspondence relating to insurance policies held by Edison and 
his companies. Included are requests to inspect buildings, inquiries concerning Edison's life 
insurance policy, and notice of a $10,000 settlement paid for fire loss at Edison's plant at Silver Lake, 
New Jersey. 

1910. Edison, T.A. - Name Use (D-10-24) 

This folder contains correspondence and other documents relating to the use of Edison's 
name, whether authorized or unauthorized, for advertising, trademark, or other purposes, Among 
the items for 1910 are several letters from detective Joseph F. McCoy regarding plans to establish 
a company to manufacture Edison's Polyform. Also included are letters pertaining to storage battery 
trademarks and to a hearing aid called the Edison Electric Ear. Related documents can be found in 
the Legal Department Records. Items concerning the use of the name "Thomas A. Edison, Jr." can 
be found in D-10-21 (Edison, T.A. - Family). 

1910. Edison, T.A. - Real Estate - General (D-10-25) 

This folder contains correspondence and other documents relating to the purchase, rental, 
and sale of land and buildings. Among the items for 1910 are letters by Frank L. Dyer, general 
counsel of the Legal Department, pertaining to the land on which the Bronx studio was built and to 
the phonograph plant at Glen Ridge, New Jersey. 

1910. Edison, T.A. - Real Estate - Factory Location 
(D-10-26) [not selected] 

This folder contains correspondence that Edison received in response to newspaper reports 
that he was seeking a new location for the manufacture of his storage batteries, electric vehicles, 
or electric streetcars. A few items contain perfunctory notations by Edison indicating that those 
reports were incorrect. 

1910. Edison, T. A. - Religion and Spiritualism (D-10-27) 

This folder contains correspondence and other documents relating to Edison's interest in 
religion and spiritualism. Included are letters from and pertaining to the spiritualist, Bert Reese, as 
well as unsolicited responses to published statements made by Edison denying the immortality of 
the soul and expressing other religious opinions. 

1910. Edison, T.A. - Unsolicited Correspondence - 
Advice - General (D-10-28) 

This folder contains routine correspondence suggesting improvements in Edison's inventions, 
asking him for advice on technical matters, or requesting his assistance in improving or promoting 
inventions. Also included are unsolicited letters from inventors about their work. 

1910. Edison, T.A. - Unsolicited Correspondence - 
Advice - Aviation (D-10-29) [not selected] 

This folder contains unsolicited correspondence relating to technological developments in 
aviation and aerial navigation. Many of the letters were inspired by newspaper reports that Edison 
was interested in those fields. Some of the items contain Edison marginalia refuting the newspaper 

1910. Unsolicited Correspondence - Autograph and 
Photograph Requests (D-10-30) [not selected] 

This folder contains routine correspondence requesting Edison's autograph or asking for his 
photograph. Some of the items contain perfunctory Edison marginalia granting or refusing those 

1910. Edison, T.A. - Unsolicited Correspondence - 
Business - General (D-10-31) 

This folder contains routine correspondence from individuals or companies requesting 
agencies for Edison's inventions or seeking to do business with Edison. Related material can be 
found in D-10-07 (Battery - Storage - Foreign - General). 

1910. Edison, T.A. - Unsolicited Correspondence - 
Business - Cement House (D-10-32) [not selected] 

This folder contains routine correspondence from individuals requesting agencies for the 
construction and sale of Edison's concrete house. Some of the items contain perfunctory Edison 

1910. Edison, T.A. - Unsolicited Correspondence - 
Deafness (D-10-33) 

This folder contains correspondence relating to Edison's deafness and to devices for the 
hearing impaired. Included are requests for Edison's opinion of existing hearing aids as well as 
inquiries concerning his plans to invent such a device. 

1910. Edison, T.A. - Unsolicited Correspondence - Foreign Language (D-10-34) 
[not selected] 

This folder contains untranslated letters to Edison. Foreign-language documents 
accompanied by translations or English-language summaries can be found in other "Edison, T.A. - 
Unsolicited Correspondence" folders and in the appropriate subject folders. 

1910. Edison, T.A. - Unsolicited Correspondence - 
Holiday Greetings (D-10-35) [not selected] 

This folder contains holiday greetings received by Edison from friends, family, acquaintances, 
associates, and others. 

1910. Edison, T.A. - Unsolicited Correspondence - 
Personal (D-10-36) 

This folder contains routine personal requests and fan mail. Included are letters asking 
Edison for educational advice, personal information, information on lightning rods and x-rays, 
charitable contributions, loans, and other favors. 

1910. Edison, T.A. - Visitors (D-10-37) [not selected] 

This folder contains routine letters of introduction and routine requests to visit Edison or tour 
his West Orange laboratory. Substantive letters from individuals who visited the laboratory or 
company shops on business can be found in the appropriate subject folders. Some of the items 
contain perfunctory marginalia by Edison, granting or refusing requests. Among the documents for 
1910 is a formal letter of appreciation from the Honorary Commercial Commissioners of Japan, who 
visited the United States in 1909. 

1910. Edison Crushing Roll Company (D-10-38) 

This folder contains correspondence and other documents relating to the business of the 
Edison Crushing Roll Co., which licensed and installed Edison's crushing rolls and collected royalties 
for their use. Included are statements of expenses incurred and royalties due, as well as 
correspondence regarding blueprints, patterns, licenses, and inspections. 

1910. Edison Manufacturing Company (D-10-39) 

This folder contains correspondence and other documents relating to the business of the 
Edison Manufacturing Co. Among the documents for 1910 are items pertaining to corporate taxes, 
advertising, material for primary batteries, and a contract with Nelson Goodyear. Also included are 
comparative statements of general expenses for 1909 and 1910. 

1910. Exhibitions (D-10-40) 

This folder contains correspondence and other documents concerning electrical and 
industrial exhibitions. Among the documents for 1910 are items pertaining to the Ohio Valley 
Exhibition and the Boston Mechanics Exposition, as well as the Panama-Pacific International 
Exposition planned for San Francisco in 1915. There are also items regarding the Japan British 
Exhibition in London and the Travel Exhibition in Glasgow. 

1910. Fort Myers (D-10-41) 

This folder contains correspondence and other documents relating to the maintenance of 
Edison's home and property at Fort Myers, Florida. Among the items for 1910 are letters regarding 
remodeling of the house, storm damage, plantings, and materials ordered. There are also letters 
concerning travel plans and electrical supplies ordered from the West Orange laboratory by Frederick 
P. Ott in Florida. 

1910. Glenmont (D-10-42) [not selected] 

This folder contains correspondence and other documents relating to the furnishing and 
maintenance of Glenmont, Edison's home in Llewellyn Park. The items for 1910 consist primarily of 
bills, statements, receipts, and account sheets itemizing household expenditures in the name of Mina 
Miller Edison or her husband. Included are statements of account detailing automobile parts and 
repairs; cost estimates on remodeling work proposed for the house; and numerous bills for coal. 

1910. Legal Department (D-10-43) 

This folder contains correspondence and other documents relating to the activities of the 
Legal Department, a centralized office for the consideration of legal matters involving the Edison 
companies. Included are items that pertain to litigation or to the organization of companies, as well 
as items that address general concerns of corporate structure and financial and legal responsibility. 
Most of the documents for 1910 consist of letters and memoranda to or from Frank L. Dyer, general 
counsel of the Legal Department, concerning settlements with injured employees, the proposed 
annexation of the Silver Lake section of Belleville to Newark, the organization of an engineering 
department at the West Orange laboratory, and Dyer's personal investment in the Condensite Co. 
of America, 

1910. Mining (D-10-44) 

This folder contains correspondence and other documents relating to mining and ore milling. 
Included are items pertaining to mining property in Canada and mining equipment in Australia, as 
well as correspondence enclosing ore samples or inquiring about Edison's interest in ore milling, 
mines, and ores. Other documents deal with prospecting work paid for by Edison and the progress 
of litigation against the Allis-Chalmers Co., which Edison was suing for infringement of his crushing 
roll patent. One letter concerns the plant at Dunderland, Norway, constructed by the Edison Ore 
Milling Syndicate, Ltd. 

1910. Motion Pictures - General (D-10-45) 

This folder contains correspondence and other documents relating to the production and 
commercial development of motion picture films and the manufacture of projectors. Included are 
items concerning photographic and production quality, advertising, sales, film distribution, and the 
activities of exhibitors. Among the documents for 1910 are letters pertaining to the employment of 

actress Pilar Morin and others at the Edison studio in the Bronx, the facilities of the studio, and 
foreign markets for films. Among the correspondents are Frank L. Dyer, vice president of the Edison 
Manufacturing Co.; George F. Scull, assistant to the vice president; and Horace G. Plimpton, 
manager of negative production. 

1910. Motion Pictures - Censorship (D-10-46) 

This folder contains correspondence and other documents relating to the activities of the 
National Board of Censorship of Motion Pictures. Included are letters between Charles Sprague 
Smith, executive chairman of the National Board, and Frank L. Dyer, vice president of the Edison 
Manufacturing Co., concerning censorship activities, the exhibition of films on Sundays, and the use 
of motion pictures for educational purposes. There are also numerous reports that “pass,” 
"condemn," or require modifications in individual films, along with a statement of receipts and 
disbursements for the period June 1909-May 1910. 

1910. Motion Pictures - Experimental (D-10-47) 

This folder contains correspondence and other documents relating to the technical 
development of films, cameras, and projectors. Included are items pertaining to the experimental 
work on color photography contracted to Charles L. Brasseur; other experimental work conducted 
at the West Orange laboratory by Willard C. Greene; and the development of the "Household 
Projecting Kinetoscope," a small projector for home use. There are also assessments of 
improvements submitted to the Edison Manufacturing Co. by outsiders, including evaluations of the 
color photographic process developed by Florence Warner and John H. Powrie. Among the 
correspondents are Frank L. Dyer, vice president of the Edison Manufacturing Co.; George F. Scull, 
assistant to the vice president; and Horace G. Plimpton, manager of negative production in the 
Kinetograph Department. 

1910. New Jersey Patent Company (D-10-48) [not selected] 

This folder contains correspondence and other documents relating to the New Jersey Patent 
Co., a patent holding company for the National Phonograph Co. and other Edison concerns. The 
items for 1910 consist primarily of routine statements, receipts, and letters of transmittal and 

1910. Patents (D-10-49) 

This folder contairis correspondence and other documents relating to foreign and domestic 
patent applications, patent litigation, and other patent matters. Among the items for 1910 are letters 
concerning federal patent legislation; Edison's involvement in the patent activities of his Legal 
Department; and various storage battery, cement, and phonograph patents. Many of the letters are 
to or from Frank L. Dyer, president and general counsel of the National Phonograph Co. Also 
included is a 21-page report containing abstracts of patent applications abandoned by Edison during 
the period 1876-1885. A draft of this report, in the hand of William H. Meadowcroft, appears in 
Thomas A. Edison Papers: A Selective Microfilm Edition, Part |, 8: 526-547. 

1910. Phonograph - General (D-10-50) 

This folder contains correspondence and other documents relating to the technical and 
commercial development of phonographs. Among the documents for 1910 are items pertaining to 
the development of diamond reproducing points, inexpensive phonographs for foreign markets, and 
disc phonographs. Also included are a general report on the American phonograph market; a 

comparative report of general expenses for the National Phonograph Co. for the period June 1909- 
June 1910; and letters to Edison about the phonograph, to which he responded with marginal 
comments. Some of the letters are by Frank L. Dyer, president of the National Phonograph Co. 

1910. Phonograph - Edison Business Phonograph 
Company (D-10-51) 

This folder contains correspondence and other documents relating to the Edison Business 
Phonograph Co. Included are items pertaining to general expenses, sales, company directors, 
advertising, and other promotional concerns. 

1910. Phonograph - Edison Phonograph Works 

This folder contains correspondence and other documents relating to the business of the 
Edison Phonograph Works. Among the items for 1910 are letters to and from Frank L. Dyer, general 
manager of the Edison Phonograph Works, regarding complaints against purchasing agent H. T. 
Leeming. Also included are shop orders and comparative reports of earnings and expenses for 1909 
and 1910. 

1910. Radio (D-10-53) 

This folder contains correspondence and other documents relating to the technical and 
commercial development of wireless telegraphy or radio. The items for 1910 consist primarily of 
correspondence with the Marconi Wireless Telegraph Co. of America regarding the renewal of notes 
held by Edison. Also included are letters of inquiry and items pertaining to Patrick Delany and his 
"telepost" system. 

1910. Reiff, Josiah C. (D-10-54) [not selected] 

This folder contains correspondence by Josiah C. Reiff, a longtime associate of Edison who 
was involved in protracted litigation (George Harrington, Josiah C. Reiff. and Thomas A. Edison v. 
Atlantic and Pacific Telegraph Co. et al.) arising from Edison's telegraph work during the 1870s. 
Among the items for 1910 are requests for loans and other favors from Edison, as well as updates 
on the progress of litigation. Some of the letters contain perfunctory Edison marginalia. 

1910. West Orange Laboratory (D-10-55) 

This folder contains correspondence and other documents relating to the operation of the 
West Orange laboratory. Included are items regarding the formation of an engineering and 
experimental department at the laboratory and the invention of a drying apparatus for photographic 
plates by Alexander N. Pierman. There are also letters concerning the forfeiture of the charter of the 
Ott Manufacturing Co., as well as memoranda and other items pertaining to equipment, scrap metal, 
chemicals, and supplies. 

1910. Automobile - General (D-10-01) 

This folder contains correspondence and other documents relating to the 
design and operation of automobiles and the use of storage batteries in electric 
vehicles. Among the items for 1910 are documents pertaining to Edison's 
research into the number of electric vehicles on the road and the experience 
of their owners with lead storage batteries. Other letters deal with Edison's 
promotion of trucks using his storage battery. At the end of the folder is an 
undated draft in Edison's hand of a circular for an "Electric Automobile with the 
New Edison Battery." Among the correspondents are Frank L. Dyer, vice 
president and general counsel of the Edison Storage Battery Co., and William 
G. Bee, sales manager. There are also numerous letters by automobile 
manufacturers such as Babcock Electric Carriage Co., Electric Vehicle Co., 
Studebaker Automobile Co., and Waverly Co.; and by individual owners of 
electric vehicles. 

Approximately 60 percent of the documents have been selected. The 
items not selected include correspondence with Cryder & Co. and others 
regarding orders, bills, and automobile parts; letters of transmittal; unsolicited 
inquiries; and documents that duplicate information in selected material. 

Invoices and account sheets that pertain to the upkeep of Edison's 
automobiles can be found in D-10-42 (Glenmont). 

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THOMAD &. SHERWIN, auoTTOR. SAN FRANCISCO April 12, 1910. jax 
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Mr. Anderson, of the Anderson Carriage Company, Detroit, is in 
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San Francisco and represents to me that fie is manufacturing drays and 
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2000 ibs to 2500 ibs.......... 1800 
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Mr. Anderson states that he will be able to deliver these machines 
equipped with your battery as fast as they may be ordered. 

I notice in the pamphlet of the Edison Storage Battery Company 
of Orange, New Jersey, that the Eastern parties are using a Lansden wagon 
and it occurs to me that perhaps the Lansden people have your preference 
in the matter of handling your battery for this purpose. I simply 
write this letter, asking confidentially that you put me right in the 
matter. Mr. Anderson claims to have visited you at the Laboratory at 
Orange, to have talked over his business affairs with you, and to have 
a satisfactory arrangement for the supply of the Idison Storage Battery. 

If you feel at liberty to do this for an oldtime employee, I 
shall very much appreciate the favor. 

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WILLIAM H. ACUFF, Prosident 

THOS. H. BREWER, Third Vico President 
F, P, GREENE, Fourth Vico President 
W. R. COOLEY, Treasurer 
G. B. DRESHER, Secretary 

Telephono Riverside 112 

The Pennsylvania Society 


Mey IOth, 1920, 
Spokane, Casbington, tt 190. 

Mr, Thomes A. Edison, 
Orange, New Jersey. wat 16k MY 
My Dear Sir; -- 
I have read with much interest, the article of Henry . Jevons,in 
May Teehnivel World, in relation to your wonderful success in the Storage 
Eattery StreetCar. Your trials of the Greyhound, the low cost of mainte- 
nence you have secured, ufter the many yeurs of work, the results ere very 
remerkable, By the low cost of overetion, your cers ere well edepted for 
the short lines desired to reach the Irrigetion districts cdjacent to our 
larger cities and towns, If you remember the writer for I7 years wes con- 
nected with the old Locul Telegraph Compeny, or Henry Bentleys compeny, 
and it was my pleasure to meet you and your interesting fumily, when you 
mude your visit to this city lust year, I being one of the Publicity Sec- 
reteries of our lively Chamber of Commerce, and of which you expressed many 
good things. I have always remembered with plezsure your visit to this vert 
of the Northwest, as it showed you the wonderful opportunities existing 
for capital, brains and ective men, I em now ina position to commend any 
amount of Capitel to organize 2 Compsny for any good enterprise, und the 
money is right here, do not have togo Bast for it, and I am writing you, to 
inquire if I can seoure the Pacific Northwest States, under en exclusive 
working contrect for the sale or lecse, as you may detefmine, of your cars? 
The opportunities of this wonderful country are limitless, «nd Millions 

Of dollars 
of Eastern and Middle ¥est men, are coming here for investment, in orchards, 

Executive Comnuttter 

WILLIAM H. ACUFF, President 

A.M. LUPFER, First Vico President 

J. GRIER LONG, Second Vice President 
THOS, H. BREWER, Third Vice President 
F. P. GREENE, Fourth Vico President 

W. R. COOLEY, Treasurer 

G. B. DRESHER, Secretary 

Telephone Riverside 112 


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The Pennsylvania Society 


Spokane, asbington, = t90_ 

Irrigation vlants, Colonization, lurge wheut f.rms, mines end other im- 

provements, The opening of the Reservations lest year brought « lurge 

number of people here,who h&ve gone back home and spread the word, and now 

we ure welcoming » large classof the better educuted men, with money, 

You hhve solved a greet problem for the short hauls, The cost of con- 

struction of overhee# transmission systems, Power Stetions, end equipment, 

is so hecvy, it nesrly prohibits the extensions to the smaller growing dis- 

tricts, which even now ere trebling their populution within five or ten 

years, Within the 

City limits, one gusoline cur, connects the end of an 

electric line with u large sub-division, at « very low cost ner mile por 

pussenger, My long and intimete acquéintance with the leuding finencial 

and commercial men of this City und vicinity, pluces me in « position to 

be eble to curry out your proposition, if 1 shall huve the honour to rep- 

resent your interests in the Northvest country, which we heve ulvays known 

es Washington, Oregon, Idaho and Montana, The Railroad Commissioners have 

told our Chamber, thet the high cost of equipment, etce,., brought from the 

Eastern factories and foudries, has grectlt hendicapped the railroad de- 

velopment of these States. Your proposition will not require & great num- 

be: of interests to purchase from, 

I trust that I shall have the pleasure to hear from you, and learn if I 

cen be of service to you as well es myself, Awaiting you consideration, I 


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Mr. Thomus A. Edison, yt 20 ace 
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Orange, N. J. 

Dear sir: 

We are trying very hard to convince the vinneapolis 
Public that the Edison Battery is absolutely right and ha t : 
you huve solved the storage battery problem to your own Ot knoe 
to the satisfaction of those who know storage batteries best. 

Our competitors in the electric vehicle business here 
are,as you know, not prepared to equip their cars with Edison 
Batteries, and are doing everything in their power to discredit 
the same. Among other things, they are very industriously 
circulating the report that you have not finished with the 
storage battery problem and that the statements ana claims for 
the Iidison Battery made by the Edison Storage Battery Co. in 
their literature and letters, do not bear the stamp of your 
authority. To be more specific, Prospective purchasers assail 
us with the proposition that we have nothing authoritative 
from you on the subject. Under the circumstances, will you 
not write us a letter over your own signature stating that the 
Claine made for the battery in the literature of the Kdison 
Battery Cc. are the claims which you, personally, make for it 
and that you have perfected the battery to your own satisfaction 

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Dear Ur, Bdison:= = gh éearee LOM IY {" ue 
Mr. M. Re Hutchinson fF 0 Chyoh Street, Ton (rom, 
hes submitted e design of a demounteble rim applicable to 

wheels for both pneumatic and solid tires}. . The scheme seems 
J R ue : s& ) OMA. Ar Gey 

to me to be very good. He telis me\that you-hare, seen fo 
wheels equipped with the device of’ four thonsané, pound 

Mr. Thomas A. Edison, 

Worthington oar which bad run up t ‘time he haa show, ¢ hi 
to you some 16,000 miles, nad that you s ated thet he coal 
oY Rn Ge al \ WAe& wuss Ah Bet 

my attention to the thing. As grate? it: looks good to m, 

but I would deeply appreciate receiving y: opinion on the 
subject before presenting the matter Company. «Mr. 
Hutchinson impresses me as being one of the npet gapable nex 

I have ever met. nn i ye % 

‘ert t 
__ ety truly yours, . 



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In Reply Refer to Alex. Churchward, 


West Lynn, Mass. 
June 7, 1910. 

Mr. Thomes A. Edison, 

ORANGE, N. J. Ai. S_- 
My dear Mr. Edison: - Qo 

I am enclosing a list of standard automobile 
motors which we are designing to be used in conjunction with 
your battery. They are the same kilowatt capacity as the 85 
volt motor but have been laid out for 60 volts so that they 
can be used in conjunction with 58 to 64 cell battery. 

You will also notice that we have two special 
motors for use in conjunction with your storage battery car. 

We will send you speed, torque, efficiency ourves 
of these motors very shortly. | . 

Yours very truly, 

tile: Yorpehevetd 

A. Churchward-P, 

The Writer was obliged to 
leave before signing the abov~ 
letter dictated by him. 


85 Volt Stendard Motors. 

G. E. 
G. E. 

me ee as ee ea a ee 

These motors will commutate perfectly with a much higher voltage, viz. 

in case 100 cells of Edison Battery are used in the car. 






Volts. 20 Amps. 
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" 60 
Volts ao Amps 

60 Volt Edison Battery Speciel. 

Speed 2000 RPM. 








650 RPM. 



60 Volts 



28 Amps. 


Alex. Churchward. 




June 10, 1910. 

Mr. Thomas A. Edison, 
Llewellyn Park, Hew Jersey. 
Dear Sir: . 
Generel Healey directs ws to hand you 
the enclosed as he thinks it will be of interest. 

Very truly, 



JUN BAL 191 




Travels From New York to This City 
in Quick Time. 

1 An unusual feat of endurance was re- 
;corded yesterday when an _ electric 
| broughain, welghing 3846 pounds, with 
passengers, manufacturer by Healey & 
Co., of New York city, covered the dis- 
tance of 1041; miles from that: city to 

the Philadelphia City Halt in 7 hours 

ind 15 minutes, with a single Dattery 
charge. .° 

The auto, which is of the ordinary 
stock type erected hy-the concern, was 
driven by Charles R. Phillips, who was 
accompanied on the trip by Wiliam 
padul and W. H. Douglass,. of New 
York. e . . 

‘I'he route covered led througir Staten 
Island, New Brunswick and Camden, 

was made at Hightstown for dinner. 

arriving in this city at 6:30 o’clock, 

! ‘The run, which was made merely for}, 

“test and exhibition purposes, was ac- 

jcomplished with an original charge of |i 
+88 volts In the new type Edison storage [° 

‘battery, with which. the Healey ma- 
ichines: are equipped. At the end of the 
‘trip i€ waa found ‘that the battery till 
{yetained 71 volts, which would have 
enabled It to have gone 15 -miles fur; 

According to automobile men, the or- 

dinary storage battery fs calculated to 
ycarry a machine 45 miles without re- 
jcharging.. - e pay 

and a stop-off of en, hour and. a halt] 

The brougham left New York at 9:40,.|' 

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Wittiameport, Pa. , June 13, 1910. | 

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on a whole Lot of” Veli chew rbot 

fast Orange, N. nee Canad oett ey. ann | by Reueeen, 

My Flsherman Friend: - “tt aT IOs Dhe ubwelsrven Courver on 

I am comtemplating buyin ae Klectric Car, 
o re CAtve an - Olin, Awe 
and every dealer haa given, the fjg0n Battery. ld shoulder 

and have tried to Alagoursge mo in getting a car ery” this / 

Battery. Sn ee C peates GakCirey Ahmet Prolariy 

Mr. Thomas A. Edison, 

I have been yunning a Pope Waverly Electric for ee 
che rf taka Nace a co ey e0r. 
six yoars with good results wi ide Battery, but it/is u. 

idle, Zebtum/ ve 50% 
about time to get a nee car. in lookins up the price, I fina 

(Rec wtame ren, 
the Manufacturers of ued ae ask i 286 HBN0 « GC additional: fog batteries: 

ota ee onn Lan a 
Do you not know of any wa ie te. improve on this {p ice; and _ and what 

quarantea do you givo? Ecetuwm— © aOR. 7 me 
There is no Edison Bdttery in this town and I would 

like to ride in a car ana think of my Fis are Rriend the 

Battery Man. \7hiate wv ae oe unm Baul” 


With kindest regards to es eee Edison jand the 2 Fanti, 

I remain, Bem, carphes G 
Ce haan ae 
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F.L.MORSE., racas“"manacer. 



ITHACA,NY. JN 18 ela 6/15/10 

My. Thomas A. Edison, 
Orange, H.d., 

Dear Sir :- 

We have your favor of the 14th inst, and as we read your . 
, the 
axle at 350 R.P.M., and that there will be four 150 HP motors 

letter understand that the motor is expected to run at 1050 

employed. We regret that we cannot give you a satisfactory trans- 
mission with a motor ranning at this speed, but could give you one 
provided the shafts are maintained in substentieal parallelism with 
the motor running at 750 R.P.M. or thereabouts. Kindly advise if d/ 
motor of this speed is feasible in connection with your work. 

4s to durability, for your information would sey that we 
have sold upwards of 100 drives to the MoKeen Motor Car Co. who use a 
200 HP gasoline engine running from 350 to 650 R.P.M., and driving direot 
from the crank shaft of a sixecylinder engine to the driving wheels of 
their motor cer. These cars are used quite extensively in the West on 
short branch lines, and some of them are now being sent into the East 
for the same purpose, we believe one being run on a branch of the Brie 
Railroad between the main line and Chautauqua Lake. This service woe 
think would be much more severe than the motor drive which you mention, 
provided the shafts are held in parallelism as stated above. 

We are pessing your inquiry to our New York office, 50 Church 
8t-, and trust you will be able to substitute motor of the slower speed 

B CHAU Cor, 


r. ei 

F.L.MORSE, treasm*manacer. 




s0 we will be able to quote on a drive that we feel will be most 
efficient and entirely satisfactory. 

| Very traly yours, 
Morse C¢ 

PLM / AHP » 
Copy to N.Y.) 

wis nee ~_ 
463 MAIN STREET, yw 


dune 15, 1910. 

My dear Mr.Hopkins, 

In accordance with your request I send you a short account of 
my experience with the old Ratton Electric Car that I have used since .1905, just 
five years to this date. The car had been used about one year but had new batteries 
put in just before I bought it. It was good for about forty miles a charge. I put 
in new batteries about every 2500 miles. ‘a ran one car about 2000 miles a year,it 
cost me about $500 a year, but t iad the Satinfaotion of knowing that only the 
wealthy oan really enjoy life,and I took great comfort from the fact that even 
if a five thousand dollar limousine did ‘whisk past me ata forty mile gait, ea 
when I was laboriously doing four miles an hour,still my ride was costing me so 
much more thaa the other fsllow’s that I could look down with disd/ain upon hin. 

For all that,slow as it is,expensive as it is, whenever I get up in a Winter 
night to make a professional call I turn to ths old money~burning snail of an. 
electric, and am at my patients sides before I could have gat my gasoline car in 
Shape to run; and then when I come out there is a cold engiae to orank back 
to life. i ahr AS nbs ort { % charge Mrw- 

Yours respectfully, 
171 Valley Road, 

West Orange. ~ 

V4 ie 

“The Alvord," East Orange, N, J. 

PASTOR'S STUDY... June... LBth.»... LQL0 « 

My dear Mr. Edison:- 

A few days ago, one of your representatdveioaldea on me, 
desiring to know what ginertenos I had had with my Studabacker 
Eleotric. As I know nothing about electricity, I cannot make my 
answer in any scientific form. I do not mean that I have not 
tried to learn, but I fear I am incapable of understanding many 
points, so that certainly I neve had to depend for all information 
and suggestion upon Mr. Hilsinger, of the North Jersey Mortor Car 
Company, at whose garage Mr. Colgate stores my car. 

As you know, my car was a present from Mr. Sidney Colgate, 
and he is kind enough to bear all the expenses pertaining to it. 

Once during my summer vacation, the oar is taken down to the 
factory and the batteries receive attention. dust what that at- 
tention may be, I cannot say. I think I am using new patteries at 


I have had the car five years. It was guaranteed to go 
forty miles on one charge. The greatest run I have ever made with 
it on one charge was thirty-five miles. This year, the greatest 
run I have made was eighteen miles, but that is altogether exception— 
al and special care was exeroised in making the run, the controller 
being in the third notch and the current. turned off whenever the : 
grade was down. This run was made last week to Upper Montolair. I 

was misdireoted and found myself on Upper Mountain Avenue, which 


was a@ pretty good pull on the car. 

If I were asked in a word what is the main difficulty, I 
would say the uncertainty regarding the length of time the car will 
go on one charge. Sometimes this year I have not gotten more than 
eleven miles. That is the main difficulty,— its uncertainty, so 
that the batteries are sometimes charged more frequently than they 
should bee I do not speak of this uncertainty in the light of a 
complaint, for the car has served me very well, because I have not 
attempted long distances. 

Another thing that has been disagreeable, and of course 
necessarily so, has been the effect of the acid upon the mechanism 
of the car itself. Another thing which I have noticed has been the 
variability of the strength of the car. Under equal conditions, I 
have been able to do some days what I could not do other days. I 
mean by that, that the var would go faster. Upon my notification 
to Mr. Hilsinger, no adequate cause could be found, but it certainly 
was true that the current was stronger at one time than at other 

I am afraid I have not done very much to answer the 
questions of the young man. I was very much pleased with him and 
would be glad to give any further information possible. 

Yours very sincerely, 

ET ee tien cermenemns ce ais 

President Vice-President and General Counsel General Manager Seeretary-Treasurer 

y Epison Storace Battery: Co. 

Telephone, 998 Orange ORANGE, NEW JERSEY June 20/10 

Mr. Frank L. Dyer: 
Enclosed please find a list ef 
@lectric autemebile manufacturers, with the name 
ef the sales manager or seme ether of their 
principal efficers: 

ANDERSON CARRIAGE CO. This concern you are familiar 
with. : 

BABCOCK ELEC.CARRIAGE CO. The attitude of these people 
teward the Edisen battery has been very unfavor- 
able, although recently they stated that they 
heped the Edisen battery weuld preve 0.K. Their 
main objection has been that the battery occupies 
too much space and is of course not designed for 
the Edison battery. They bought 60 A-4 cells and 
Claim to have tested them out, but that they were 
not satisfactory owing to the voltage falling off 
at high speed. We have since loaned them 42 A~6 
cells, but up to the present time have not made a 
test. They told our Mr.Doty last week that Mr. 
Babcock was going to put this battery in his own 
testing car as soon as he could have it changed 

BAKER MOTOR VEHICLE CO. They have purchased 6 sets of 
A-4 betteries, 48, 50 and 64 cells. We have a 
letter from one of their customers in New Hamp~ 
Shire, who writes that his battery of 64 A-4 he 
ig very much pleased with. Their New York re- 
presentative is knocking the Edison battery every 
opportunity he gets. In fact, the only agent the 
writer knows anything about who is boosting the 
battery, is their Boston agent. He told the 
writer the last time I was in Boston that he was 
very much pleased with the results obtained. We . 
have never put any into their trukks. The Amer- ae 
ican Express Company in New York, who own a Baker 
truck, have written us this morning that they 
would like to have us figure on putting a new 
Edison battery in same. This shows that the Amer- 
ican Express Company are dissatisfied with the 
lead battery. 

BROC CARRIAGE & WAGON CO. Have never purchased an 

Edison battery. a 
t. oe, Ah Je AAe Stetina lhGsc 2 

S. R. BAILEY & CO. This concern you are familiar with . 

CHAMPION WAGON CO. ‘They have never purchased an Edison 

COLUMBUS BUGGY CO. They have purchased 1 A-4 battery 
of 40 cells. Have never heard anything from 
them in regard to it. They also tested out a 
40 A-6 cell battery in a rig that was sent to . 
Boston for the Boston Edison Co., who report that 
the battery is 0.K., but that they have recently 
had trouble with the vehicle. The Columbus Buggy 
Company have recently gone into the gasoline cer 
business and are not pushing the electric. 

COMMERCIAL TRUCK CO.OF AMER. Have bought one Edison 
battery which they sold to John Wanamaker for 
one of their trucks, and have recently placed an 
order for another. 

COUPLE GEAR FREIGHT ¥HEET CO. Recently sent us an 
order which is not yet shipped. 

ELECTRIC OMNIBUS & TRUCK CO. Have not yet built any 
rigs. Have two or three orders on our books for 
batteries, and will be ready about the last of 
the month. 

ELECTRIC VEHICLE CO. The president of this concern 
mumikiiedt sabes wickie we ware in the wast rex 
muntix is president of the Electric Storage Bat- 
tery Company of Philadelphia. They have recently 
gone into a combination with the United States 
Motor Co., which is the Maxwell-Briscoe com~ 

FRITCHLE AUTO & BATTERY CO. Have never purchased/ 

GENERAL VEHICLE CO. This concern you are familiar with. 
' They have recently placed an order for two more ; ! 

IDEAL ELECTRIC CO. The president of this company com~ 
mitted suicide while we were in the west recently. 
Think they are pushed for money. 

C. P. KIMBALL & CO. They have never purchased any bat- 
teries of us, although Mr.Frayer reports that : 
their attitude is a little more favorable. : 

OHIO ELECTRIC CAR CO. Have purchased one battery. Re-~- 
ceived a letter this morning from the purchaser 
asking for instructions as to care of the battery. 
I have been told that they have sold several rigs 
for Edison batteries, but they have not placed 
their orders. 


PITTSBURGH MOTOR VEHICLE CO. They have purchased two 

RAUCH & LANG CARRIAGE CO. Have purchased 40 A-4 cells. 
uy The writer prove& to them that this battery was 
too small. They then purchased 40 A-6 cells, and 
I understand that this battery is in Detroit. They 
returned the 40 A-4 cells and we shipped them 
anothed 40 A=-6 battery. They really have two AW-6 
batteries, 40 cells each. 

STUDEBAKER AUTO CO. They have demonstrated 64 A-6 cells 
in their truck in New Yor, Chicago and Boston. We 
also shipped them 70 A-4 celas but have not heerd 
report of test. 

WAVERLEY CO. We loaned them a battery. Fizgst put in 
48 A-4 cells. While I was at their factory we got 
them to let us send them 6 cells more. Have not 
heard result. 


WOODS MOTOR VEHICLE Co. Bought one set 60 A-4. Have 
not- heard result. 

HEALEY & CO. O.K.e. They build a special brougham for 
Edison batteries. They recently made a test 
from New York. to Philadelphia on one charge, and 
from Philadelphia to New York on one charge, 104 
miles. They have sold several of these broughams 
equipped with the Edison battery. 

- Very truly yours, 

Ki de 



— —~ Semin 

Avderson verriage vo., 
Niopelle & vUley Sts., 

Detroit, mich, W.C, Anderson, vsdt, 

Geo, Mm, Bacon, Vesigner. 

Babcock Wlectric Carriage 

226 W, Utica St., 
Buffalo, WY. 
B, G. Peck, Designer. 

Baker Motor Vehicle Co., { 
West 80th St., v 
Cleveland, Ohio. 

F.R. White, President, 

Broc Carriage & Wagon Co., 
1665 Hest 40th St., 
4021 Payne Svenue, 
Cleveland, Ohio, 

S.R, Bailey & Co., 
Amesbury, Mass. 

1 O.F, Fisher, Psdt, 

S.R, Bailey, Psdt, 

E.W.M, Bailey, Treas, & G.M, 

Champion ‘agon Co,., 
Oswego, N.Y, 

Columbus Buggy Co., 
Dublin Avenue, W,, i. 
Columbus, Ohio, C,D.Firestone, Psdt. 
Commercial Truck Co, 
of America, 
1222 Arcade Bldg., 
Philedelphia, Pa. E.R, Whitney, Ch. ing, 
F,E, Whitney, Supt, 

Couple-Gear Freight=Wheel Co., 
Grand Rapids, Mich. M,B. Church, Psdt, 
J.W, Brown, Manager, 

Electric Omibus & Truck Co, 
135 Broedway, 
N.Y. City,N.Y. C.J, Pielad, Psat, 

Electric Vehicle Co,, 
Park & Laurel Sts., H.W, Nuckols, 
Hartford, Conn, Secy, & Receiver, 
(Under control of U,S.Motor ‘Sfx Co. ) 

Fritchle Auto, & Battery Co., 
1449 Clarkson St., 
Denver, Col. Oliver P, Fritchle, 

General Vehicle Co,., P.D.Wagoner, Psdt 
Long Island tity, N.Y. @.w, Wesley, Supt, 

Ba ban Sook, Fsdt, & GM, 

O.B,Henflerson, Sales Negr, 
E, Gruenfeldt, Designer. 



and vtomnel, 








and Commel, 




Page =-2~ 

Ideal Electric Co., S.H. Peterson, 
Chicago, Ills, 

C.P, Kimball & Co., 
315 Michigan Ave., V 
Chicago, Ills, Chas.F,Kimball, Psdt. 
J.5, Gorham, 
Lansden Company, 
Newark, NJ, John Lansden, 
F,A, Whitten, 

Ohio Electric Car Co., 
Toledo, Ohio. H.P. Dodge, Gen. Mgr. 

Pittsburg Motor Vehicle 

5722 Ellsworth Ave., 
Pittsburg, Pa, Chas. A, Ward, 

Rauch & Lang Carriage Co., 
2180 W. 25th St., Chas, Lang, Secy. & Treas, 
Clevelend, Ohio, D.C. Cookingham, Supt. 
J.H.Hertner, Designer. 

Studebeker Auto. Co,, / 
South Bend, Ind, Hayden Hames, G.Mer. 
v H, Robinson, 

The Waverly Co., 
139 South East St., 
Indianapolis, Ind. Herbert H, Rice, Vice-P, 
W.C,. Johnson, Secy & 
Asst, Mgr. 

Washington Motor Vehicle 

213 "L" St., S.W., 
Washington, D.C. W.H,Conant, 

Woods Motor Vehicle Co.,y 
2515 Calumet Ave., JLouis i, Burr, Psdt. 
Chicago, Ills. Fred. J, Newman, Designer 
& Supt. 
R, S. Fend. 

Healey & Co,, 
Broadway & 5ist St., 
New York City,N.Y. Gen.W.M,Healey. 




Comme rGial , 

and Commel, 

and Comnel, 






TID gn eet a et ES it a a SS a aed a Fe cee ee 


Epison StTorAGE Battery Co. 

Telephone, 908 Orange 


Mr. Frank L. Dyer: 

of Jersey City have recently equipped one of their 
Studebaker 5-ton trucks with 70 A-8 cells, and while 

work, and wanted to lmow if we could fill promptly 

Frederick Loeser @ Company of Brooklyn have had an 

Vice-President and General Counsel General Manager Secretary-Treasurer 

Edison battery in one of their trucks since last September. 

They recently gave us an order to replace six lead 
batteries. This they did after a very severe test of 
the Edison battery through all the winter months. 

The truck equipped with the Edison battery was the only 
One they could absolutely rely upon to make the trip to 
New York and get back to their store without boosting. 
Loeser trucks were made by the General Vehicle Co. 

Very truly yours 7 


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JUN 22. 1910 

- flor Wise 



dune 25, i949. 

Repiying to vour i roevaraiig lay dxperionee 
with the use of an oliectric antomwonile, would say thas all 

my trovble, when T had ona of those oars, was with she 
batterigg, T am yabisfied that if these tronbiss conld 
have heen elininated at the time, an electric gar vouhi bo 
a greater pieasure to run than any gasoline car, owing to 
the fact that thay vould always be available when wanted, 
less attention required and woudd run nore gL.oOothlLy anc 
nolse Lossly. T am now the omer of two gasoiina carg, 
but Wouid much prefer a reliahle Oleatric, but this can only 
be when the batteriag ara such that they wilh stand un ami 
serye the purpose for which they are intenlad, which vas not 
the case at the tine I owned wy electric. 

I trust that you may gone day mect this roquireamwent and 
then T shall be glial to again consider the purchase of an 

electric car, as may wife could run my slectric car and find 

considerable onjoyment with it, which she could not do with 

a gasoline car. 

Very truly yours, : 


Those A. Edison Esq., 


New Jersey. 
Dear sir:- 

In reply to your inquiry through your representative 
Mr. Hopkins as to my electric run-about would say it is very 
satisfactory except its limited distance capacity with one charge 
of electricity. It has an acid battery and will run on our 
ordinary roads about sixteen miles. I Pind it particularly 
convenient for the lady members of my family who use it with perfect 
safety and without any other attendant. . 

Should the further development of batteries increase the 
one charge distance to say 75 to 100 miles for an ordinary carriage 

seating four persons I predict for such a vehicle a great demand. 

Very truly yours, 
To/V iy as 


June 29-1910 

& Hon, Thomas A. Edison, 
Llewellyn Park, 
Orange, HN. J., 

Dear Mr, Edison:- 

It is a pleasure to have your letter of the 
2end instant and we are interested in the comments that 
you make, That certainly will be an interesting record 
that you are developing with reference to the owners of 
electric automobiles and I am sure it will develop or 
rather it will emphasize the importance of. organization , 

. The Exide people have a strong organization, 
It is their ability and their facility to look after 
the electric car locally that makes their product 
attractive, I do not know what the electric vehicle 
manufacturer would do if it did not have this protection 
back of it, particularly so out on the Pacific coast and 
in the middle west where electric vehicles are occasione- 
ally dropped in for use here and there, ' 

We know from our own experience that the. 
battery of an electric vehicle requires intellectual 
care, and we find all the difference in the world when 
these batteries are looked after by a man who understands 
his business and who gives to it thought and care vs, the 
man who does not care and lets somebody else pay the bill, 
Our experience has brought us in contact with all kinds 
of conditions,even in garages where expert experience 
is presumed available, 

We are making some pretty fine developments 
in New York, but we must confess the battery proposition 
has been more tnan a passing discouragement, lir, Redden 
manager of our automobile department in New York, told 
me some time ago that they were vatching the development 
of your battery that they are now experimenting with 
closely, and of course we all hope for a brilliant 
success, : 

Hrs, Carlisle joins with me in greetings and 
best wishes to you and all members of your family, and 
we often wish that we might have the pleasure of a visit 

from you here at South Bend, ; ary 
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With greetings and best wishes, believe ue, 7 ‘ 
Cordially yours, ; : 
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Jersey City, N. J. 
June 30th, 1910 

Mr. Thomas A. Edison, 
Orange, N. J. 

Dear Sirs=" 

One of your representatives called here to get some 
information regarding batteries. We took on the Waverley 
electric line eleven years ago and received the oars at first 
with the National batteries in. These were made in Buffalo. 
After about four months use the batteries dropped from a 
mileage of about 35 miles to about 9 or 10, After a lot 
of work on the batteries the Waverley Co. exchanged all of 
them for new sets of Gould batteries. These batteries 
gave a little better service but we had the same trouble over 
again and finally the Waverley for half price replaced them 
for Ekide batteries. These gaye us the same trouble as the 
others and at last as you know like a great many ether 
agents we gave up the eleotric business in disgust. ‘The 
-oars themselves were absolutely reliable and we did not have 
any trouble with them in any way. Our whole trouble lay 
in the batteries. The connections between the jars broke, 
the jars themselves broke and the sedement from the positive 
Plates would shake loose and drop in the bottom of the jar 
and short oirouit the cells. These troubles were : 
continually arising from the time the batteries had run 
from a thousand miles up. We delivered about 26 cleotrics 
in Jersey Oity but up to the present time there is only one of 
them left and it is very doubtful if there will be any more 

“eleotrios here for a long time. Battery troubles have left 
@ very bad impression and I think to get any ecleotric cars 
in here you would have to give them to them and allow them 
to pay for them at the end of twelve months if satisfactory. 

Respeotfully yours, 
G E, Blakeslee. 

Cresoent Automobile Oo., 
2565 Boulevard, 
Jersey City, NJ. 


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Mr. Thomas A. Edison, 

Menlo Park, N. J, 
Dear Sir:- 

In response to your inquiry by Hr. Marcus G. Hopkins, 

in regard to my exnerience with an electric automobile driven 
by a storage battery, I beg to say that I did have such an auto- 
mobile at one time and so far as the machine itself was concerned. 
I had ne fault to find with it. The weakness, however, lay in 
the source of pnower which was storage batteries. These batteries 
I found not only very short lived for such service but they also - 
gave considerable trouble on account of short circuiting in var- 
ious ways and indeed they caused me so much trouble that the car 

was practically useless on their account and I felt obliged to. 

Yours very truly, 
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which I owned three years ago. eet 

My experience covered a period of one year with 
a Pope-Waverley, with which I probably covered two thousand 
miles. Since that time I have been operating gasolene 

ears, and between the two motive powers , there is no com— 

The electric motive power is easy manipulation; 
no noise or excitement of any kind while operating; so 
easy of manipulation that after running forty-five or 
fifty miles, that you feel no fatigue whatsoever, which 
is the direct opposite in running a gasolene car. 

I think that the Motor car is an ideal car for 
pleasure trips, and if I could be assured that sufficient 
power could be stored in a car, which would give continuous 
aa from one hundred or one hundred and fifty miles, 

I would prefer it to ali others. ; 7 

I have been interested in reading the artidves 
evidently written by yourself or your representatives, 
regarding the battery which you have perfected for use 
in electric vehicles, and sincerely hope it will »e success— 
ful, as I pelieve the electric power is. the coming motive 
power, not only for pleasure menos ens: ‘but ee other 

Yours. very truly, 

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en Wagons for this: ‘Company a’ use “to which he refered” "in er 
Wis letter of June 254, - ee aac Oe 

In general terms we would want these wagons capable 
of carrying 3,000 puunds, although‘ they ‘would rarely be load« 
ed with very much over one-half this amount. We would want 
them capable of going fourteen or fifteen miles: per hour on 
good roada. We wiuld want the bodies to be of the open express 
wagon type, similar to those of the wagons now in: use by us, 
and last, but not least, we would want the batteries to be 
Edison batteries of: just whatevér type you would recommend 
for this class of service. Bees Wises 

We have figured with the Lansden Company once or 

twice, but as yet have bought ‘no“wagons of them, . They may 

for this reason not’ feel’ disposed to’spend’as much time on 
working out the details ‘of’ our requirements “which they other« 
wise would, Mr. Insull, however, aske me to state to you 
that we will buy two of these wagons immediately from them 
if their price is right. 
As to our service in general, I might for the : 
information of yourself and the vehicle people, say that we 
do a general wiring construction business and also a jobbing 

business in supplies in connection with our Central Station. 

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T. A. EB (2) July 19. 1910, 

This resulta in our maintaining a large warehouse in the 
center of the city and branch warehouses at three or four 
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done between the main store and branches and also to custom. 
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are generally speaking light, and it is very essential that 
these wagons should be able to make the speed referred to. 
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Dear Sir: 
I have had four electric vehicles since 
1900 for ny private use, 

I have two at ny place at Bernardsville at the 
present time, one a& Columbia Victoria and the other 
& Baker Victoria. lis. Kuser and I use them for 
short runs every day during our stay at Bornardsville, 
which is nine months out of the year. 

They have given very good satisfaction and the 
only drawback, if any, that we find with the electric 
vehicles is battery trouble and lack of mileage. ‘The 
limit that I can get out of a now battery is about forty 
miles on a full charge on the Bernardsville hills. 

; oC eee, 

Very truly yours, 

Mr. Thomas A. Edison, 

West Orange, New Jersey. 


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I would report on my visit to the Keystone Vehicle Co., 
at Reading, Pa., as follows: 

The plant is of fair sizc, employing ©85 men. ‘Tne 
Concern i8 maneged by Mz. Joha L. Coxe, who seems very capable 
and intelligent, 

The Saiple wagon way nearly completed, and wald huve 
bean shipped Saturday, had I not given them instructions to put 
on tho signs, which will delay shipment until Monday. 

Vhe capacity of this plent as for as our proposition is 
Concerne&, would be 20 wagens per week, and four weeks to complete 
the first 20, after which 20 could be shipped each week. At 
present they ero quite busy manufacturing automobile bodies. One 
of t+hoir customers is who Yerminel Vaxicab Comany, “washington, 
D. c., who have ordered ten bodies, in thich the Idism Rattery 
is to pe placed. 

These people have made over 1500 wagons for the frand 
Union Vea Company, and 500 for The Great Atlantic and Pacific 
fee Company, all of which are used on about the same roeds end 
under the séno conditions of our scheme. I have brought photo~ 
graphs of these wagons vith me. 

They say that ® saving in freight could be made by 
shipping to difterent points in carlioad lots, end then meke 
distribution from the point The cost of e cer with 

Seven wegons from Reading to Chicago is (55.00. 

It will be scen in the photographs of tho Tea wagons 
thet there is great opportunity for advertising on the side 
panels. This lessens the cost of the wagon to us, and increases 
the advertising valuc , tome, I think we will save about {:8.00 
on each wagon by this Tea Company construction. ‘Tho panels are 
solid, but are finished by putting the lithograph (backed by 
canvass), on the outside. When this is varnished, it is servic~ 
eble and very bright in appearancé, and is certainly ea great 

advertising opportunity. 

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Aug. 6, 1910. 

The Rauch & Leng Carriage Co., 
Clevelend, Ohio. 

One of our salcsmen while recently in Detroit 
hed occasion to call on your agents, Neumen & Co., and, 
without disclosing his identity, sounded them out on 
the subject of the Kdison battery. ie hac made it 
quite clcar to us thet Neumon & Co. ere not making 
efforts to introduco the Edison battery, nor are they 
limiting thomselves to the making of tests, but on the 
contrary ero going out of their way to discredit tho | 
battery end ‘abepicragos t as disparagingly as possible. 
When I was in Clevolend, your Mr. Weiber told mo that 
Neuman & Co. had tho battory in Detroit solely for the 
purpose of tosting it and that thoy had partiouler instruc- 
tions to give it a porfootly fair show and under no cir- 
cunstences to ettempt to discredit it. It is clear 
to us that Noumen & Co. are not carrying out your instruc- 
tions and we must therefore insist thet tho battery be 
roturned to gu at Cleveland, or, if this is not con- 
veniont, returned to us, and we will sive full credit 
for tho same. 

Ieter on Messrs. Neuman & Co. mey change thoir 

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attitude regarding the Edison battory, ond in that event 
thore would bo no objoction to your letting thom have 
ears equipped with the battery; but et the present time 
they are cortainly doing no good for the Rauch 2 Leng car 
48 8 vehicle for the Edison battery. @he fact that 
Newnan & Coe have not sold this single car, while the 
inderson Cerrisge Company ere Selling vehicles by the 
dozon oquinped with Edison betteries is a very go00a indi- 
cation thet your agents in Detroit are enverently not 
making the prope offorts to agvence either your inter- 

eSts or our own. 

Yours very truly, 

pip/ ry Vice-President. 

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Teen : 

Understanding that you are interested in the service 
rendered by electric pleasure vehicles, I em vlad to give you 
my personal experience. 

In key, 1908, after inspecting a number of makes,we 
decided upon a Baker Victoria Pheeton, it being equipred with 
an Exide Battery of 24 cells, 9 NV, and up to dete have not 
regretted the purchase. 

Outside of tire troubles we have hed splendid suec- 
cess, the car has been in the shop but once; in April 1910 
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Dear Sir:- Wo I ponte fue 

In March, 1909, the two reer tires were replaced by 
Dayton airless tires, which, the Beker people claim has caused 
the mileage to decrease, but the added comfort of feeling that 
they at least would not puncture more than makes up for the 
loss of 5 or 6 miles on 2 charge. We had 55 miles, and down 
to 48 before changing tires; since then it has rm down to 
42. For awhile before washing plates we could not get much 
over 56 miles. 

We charge the car ourselves now (for awhile it was 
done at a public garage ) running it up to 61 on high amperare 
end again to approximately the same on 9 or 10 amperes, gener- 
ally discharging to 40 to 42 volts. The Mercury Arc Recti- 
fier (G. E.) has been tested a number of times, but it still 
takes from 12 to 14 hours to charge the car, end as there is 
not an automatic starter it is necessary to keep pretty close 
watch so as to start the rectifier up again whenever the 
Public Service people see fit to change engines or interfere 
in any wey with the current. 

The last of August, 1909, I left Rest Orange on 
account of sickness, returning lest of April, 1910; the car wag 
Jacked up to spare the tires, but was not touched otherwise. 
Upon return, Lir. Platt, of Baker Company, felt sure the bat- 
teries would need considerable attention, but I fed them very 
slowly at about 10 emperes for 25 or 50 hours, and had 33 mileg - 
tried this two or three times, but not for so many hours, with 
same results, after which a mechinist came from the Baker Co's, 
shop, went over everything carefully, but dia nothing seve clean 
aa old oi1 and renew the lubrication, and expressing his sur. 
prise. ; 

We have had 40 to 44 miles on each charge since then, 
and if it did not take go terribly long to get the car ready 
for the road, and coulda get more miles out of a charge, there 

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No, 2. To Thos. A. Edison. DATE 8/6/10. 

would not be the slishtest complaint. ly wife also runs a 
gasoline car, but she clings to the little vheeton as her first 
and best love. 

Yerdon length of this letter, but your Mr. Hopkins 
stated you would like to know my experience and what I thought 
of electric vehicles for pleasure, so I have spun out this tale. 

Yours truly, 


of 46 Chestnut Street, 
East Orange, Il. J. 


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WASHINGTON,D.C, September 19, 1910. 

‘Frank L. Dyer, Esq., Vi 

Orange, N. J. i 

My dear Mr. Dyer: 

I am figuring on getting me a new electric car, and have been 
discussing with the agent the question of buying a car containing the 
new. Edison battery. 

You may remember that I have asked you about this battery 
several times. The agent for the automobile company does not seem 
to have any very definite idea what this vattery will do - about its 
Mileage performance as well as its lasting qualities. 

I am considering installing in this car a battery of the type 
known as "A 6", and I write to ask if you will not have some one 
connected with the company give me information concerning the mile- 
age performance as well as the probable liffe of such a pattery. 

I am voxe by the agent of the automobile company that the 
literature sent out by the nakesfs of the battery give no light upon 
these two subjects, and as the bateeny is a new one, I don't like to 
go to the expense of having it instailed without move information 
then I now have. From what I am told, it would appear that it will 
cost some $600. or $700. more to have the Edison "A 6" battery in- 
stalled than the Standard’ Exide pattery now used in these cars. 

Thanking you in advance for your courtesy in the PESmTnees | 

fore. ae, 
Yours very truly, 

}} ri Sept. 20,2910, 

Jas. K, Jones, Esa., 

621 Colorado Building, 
Washington, D. G, 

iy dear lr. Jones:- 

Your favor of the 19th inst. has 
beon received, If you purchaso on cleetric car that has 
been roasonebly well designed I an sure that you will have 
very satisfactory servico from the Edigon battery. Let mo 
Imow what car you propose buying end I will tell you whee 
thor I think it is all right. If you heve never had any 
experience with storege battories you probably will not 
fully appreciate the good points of the Faison battery, 
but I am sure if the bettery is given proper attention 
that you will heve no occasion Lo rogxet buyine an clectric 

machine, Washington in fact is en ideal city for machines 

of this type. There can be absolutely no comperison betweon . 

the clectric automobile and the 28 car so far as economy 
of operation, convenicnco, cleanliness, and goneral all 
around service are concernod, all of these fectors being 
enormously in favor of the electric machine, With an A-6 
Edison battery on the streets of Washington you ought to 

be able to get a mileage of from 75 miles to 150 miles per 


#e2- Jas, K. Jones, Esq. 

charge, or cven more. Wo heve run Anderson end Bailey 
cers over the roads of New Jersey, encountering protty 
good hills with mileages up to 140 miles and the Beker 
Company rocently opereted one of their cers ovar the 
streets of Cleveland end obtained a mileage of ovor, 200 
miles, We ere gueranteeing the Edison bettory when used 
in commercial trucks to last at least three yearp, and 
Since the service in e pleasure vehicle is not go hard 
on the battery you ourht to get considerably longer life, 
The ordinary lead battery cannot be derended upon for 
much longer than one year, I believe thet then the public 
comes to an approciation of tho Edison battery it will be 
used exclusively in the operation of olectric vohicies, 

Yours very truly, 

PID/ ARK, Vice-President, 



WASHINGTON OSs September 21, 1910. 


Frank L. Dyer, Esq., . p 
The Edison Storage Battery Company, vo 
Orange, N. de 
My dear Mr. Dyer: 

Your letter of Sept. 20th is received. I have had a Columbia 
electric car for about three years - or, to be exact, I have had two 
ot these cars. The one I now have I purchased in May 1908, and the 
garage people teil me I must have a new battery put in. It therefore 
‘occurred to me that instead of putting a new battery in this car, Tf 
would buy a Columbia cay of the 1911 type, which is made so that the 
‘Hdison battery may be instatled. 

The agent of the Columbia car tells me that the lead battery in 
the 1911 car will make about 75 miles on a@ charge. The battery in 
use in the present cay when new will make about 50 miles, but if the 
Hdisoi battery is a decided improvement over the old pattery I want 
to use that instead of the lead battery. It was for this reason that 
I wrote you for the information which you so very Kindly sent me in 

ia your lettor of yesterday. 

na This Columbia agent tells me he can deliver a 1911 carwith an 

-exide pattery which will make about 75 miies on a charge for $1750, 

-" put the same car with the Edison 6 A battery will cost about $2400. 
It would appear to make the Edison battery cost $450. more than the 

J” Exide vattery, though you get more mileage out of the Edison pattery 
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and it would probably last longer. 

I note you state you guarantee the commercial truck for a 
period of three years, and that you think a battery in a pleasure 
vehicle ought to have a longer iife. I assume from this, there- 
fore, that you do not guarantee a battery when in use in a pieasure 

I nute that the Baker people have operated one of their cars 
over the streets ol Cleveland and obtained a mileage of something 
over 200 miles. I do not care for the Baker car, however, but I 
am very partial to the Columbia. It would seem, though, that the 
battery ought to perform in‘a Columbia car fully as well as it does 
in a Baker or in an Anderson & Bailey. 

With many thanks for your courtesies in this connection, I 

Yours very truly, 

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Orange ry NeJe 

reer T am an Fx. Tel. Opr., and several years ago worked with 

you in the Cintie Ofe. (0) I am wanting a good used Elec. Auto. if 
ean find one costing me not over $600.00 and thought perhaps you 
might help me to fing it? IP SO THE KINDNESS WILL ALWAYS BE 

Hoping to receive word from you, I am 
Yours frat? 


Sept. 23, 1910, 

James K, Jones, Esa., 

621 Colorado Building, 
Washington, D.C, 

“My dear Mr. Jones:- 

. Your favor of the 21st inst, has 
been received, So far as I know the Columbia car is oe 
entiroly satisfactory and I understand the 1911 type 
has been built to take the Edison Battory. We have not 
made any tosts with the Columbia car, but I see no 
reason why it should not work as satisfactorily as ony 
of the other cars with which we have made caroful testa, 
I am informed that tho menufacturers of the Columbia 
oar are very closely affiliated with the Exide people 
in Philadelphia, so that I do not think they sre partic- 
wlarly anxious to put in the Edison battery unless they 
have to. If you cannot make a satisfactory arrangemont 
with the agent of the Columbia car in Washington end 
still feel that you would like to use the Edison battery, 
I would suggost that you purchase a car without batter- 
ies end have them make a suitable allowance to you for 
tho battery. An allowance of at least $200 should be 

- Bee thet you receive every consideration, and I am quite 

: I kmow thet you will bo more then pleased with the conormous 

r ‘PLD/ ARK, j Vice-Prosident, 

CE ae ore 

#2 —- James K. Jones, Esq. 

_imade and perhaps more, which would bring the cost of the 

car to you 31550 and perhaps less. You could thon purchase 
the battery d§rectly from us. The cost of forty A-6 colls 
of Edison bettery would be }800, It is a fact that while 

. we guarantee tho battery for use in commercial trucks we 

ao not make a guarantee for use in connection with pleasure 

“. vehicles, for the reason that in tho caso of trucks we 

can keop a reasonably close supervision over the instella- 
tion, but in the case of pleasuro vehicles it is impossible 
to do this. However, in view of our own personel rolations, 

should you purchase an Kéison battery, I would, of course, 

“gure thet you would not be disavpointed with it. With the 

experience you have had in the operation of clectric cers 

‘adventages of the Edison battery. 
Yours very truly, 

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My dear Mr.Edison: . YY peri ; 

I and some of my friends have become ixfter- 
ested in the development of an invention of 3 
Chas,R,Pratt, with whose reputation as mech 
engineer you are perhaps familiar. 

a ~ 
The device is known as, "rotary piston unit", 
and is applicable to all the principal forms of pow- 
er tranamission, among them power driven vehicles. 

I remember when you were here some months ago 
you said something about being interested in power 
driven vehicles for hauling freight, I think Mr. 
Pratt's device would be well adapted to that kind of 
vehicle, He has just completed and is about to in- 
stall a unit for trial on a London bus. 

He would like you to see the device,or his 
drewings,and to have an opportunity to explain it to 
you. He expects to sail for Europe the latter part ' 
of next week. I feel sure that you will be interest- : 
ed in the device and that it would be worth your 
while to look into it. Would you be willing to make 
an appointment for Mr.Pratt at Orange on Monday, 
Tuesday or Wednesday of next week? I will endeavor 
to accompany Mr.Pratt if you have no objection, 

With kind regards, 
Yours very truly, 

iMir. Thos. A.Edison, 
Llewellyn Park, 
Orange, N.J. 

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R.C WHITE ,Preat. Edgewater Park and L.S.& M.S. Ry. ASSOCIATION 

R.C.NORTON.Stcy & Treas. 
0.B.HENDERSON,Satces Maa. 

Tong fondle (.. UL®ow, 7th,1920 


Mr. John R. Anderson,Jr., 
The Edison Laboratory, 
Orange, N. d. 
Dear Sirs- 
Your letter of Nov. 4th at hand. I beg to say that our test Victoria in 
New York is equipped with a 4S volt motor, and I have sent material to our New York 
representative with which he oan inorease the speed of the motor on short notice 
sufficient to obtain a greater number of miles per hour on any test run Hr, Edison 
cares to have made. As I stated to Mr. Edison before, I gladly will consent to 
any test he suggests, and have issued instructions in this respect to our New 
York agent. 
Yours very truly, 

The Baker Motor Vehiole Co. 


November 26th, 1910, 
Mr. Frank L. Dyer. 
Dear Sir:~ 

The Columbus Buggy Company up to the present time have only 
bought one A~4 battery - 40 cells, This they returned to 
us and we sent them in exchange 40 A+~6's which they paid for. 
We know they have made a-.test as our Mr. Frayer was there 
when some of it was going on. They agreed to send us copies 
of it but they have never. done so0 and we have not heard any 
further from them in regard to Edison batteries, and we don't 
expect very mich from them, but if you are in Columbus it 
would be well for you to call on Mr. Firestone, Sr., and have 
a talk with him, and you might mention that we have received 
from Anderson since last February $136 000.00 for Edison 

Regarding the R & L situation. They or their agents are still 
knocking Edison batteries very hard, and they have paid for, 
up to the present time, seven sets 40 A-6's. T have been told 
that they have renewed their contract with the Exide people 
for 1911. Also have been told that Mr. Rauch was @ stock. 
holder in the Electric Storage Battery Co., this may be simply 
hearsay, however. 

Studebaker I think we had better let rest. The delivery wagons 

in Edison batteries, in fact we could not do so to good ad- 

vantage. We have recently refused to accept orders for batteries 

with which to equip their 2,500~1b. vehicles. ‘here are all 
sorts of rumors about these people, some are to the effect that 
they are going out of the electric vehicle business, another is 
that they are going to build a large Plant in South Bend and 
were going to push electric vehicle business. What I should 
recommend is not to bother with them at present and when we are 
in shape to get out our orders promptly then we might push them 
through other channels, viz., Morgan & Co., 

Woods Motor Vehicle Co., I think is out of the question as we 
camot interest them further with Edison batteries; better let 
them rest until the public demand. that they furnish vehicles — 

. equipped with. Edison batteries, 
Strongly recommenda, 1f you go to Detroit, that you call up Mr. 


Anderson on the 'phone with a view to getting a general talk with 

him regarding the situation. 

WGB/p3 ae Gee 

‘ 7 aay 

BN FA - Mae 
Philadelphia, Pa; November 27, 1910, 

‘ Thenas A, Edison sq, 

Orange, No J. (ua 
Dear Sir:- 

A shoxt time ago a Philadelphia paper published that 
you intended to put an Electric Fanily Pleasure Car en the 
market, which would he a car fer the niddle clbs@arcygerle, 
inexnensive te maintain and low in price, 

If I an net imposing tee uuch upon yaur valuable tine and 
genorisity , wauld you kindly let me knew what the selling price 
ef this Electric Vehicle will he, and hew soon yau will put it 
upen the market, how nuch it will cest me to run it, and hew 

many miles it will run before it reay ‘au recharging, 

CN tie as 
ki tf | 

Quem, tol 2 

F.A.BABCOCK, Prasidant & General Manager. FRANK L, BAPST, Vice President HARRY YATES, Traasurer. 

226 W.UTICA ST, 

NY Dec. 7, 1910, 

F. LL. PERLEY, Generar manacer ot sates, 

Mr. Thomus A. Edison, President, 
The Edison Storage Battery Company, ae _ 
Orange, NW. 7. Hep Ee) 

near Sirt-« 

The weiter has just returned fron his vacation of several 
weeks, and notes that vou are doing guite considerable advertising 
in the papers relative to vour battery and the Electric vehicle muan- 
ufacturers that are using it, and we observe that our name is not 
included in the list of those that are ready to install vour hatte- 
ries when wanted, and we feel that this is hardly fair to us. 

We will agree that we have not been able thus far to pro~ 
duce the results with our cars with your battery, that we are so 
anxious to do, but that we are ready and willing to equip any of our 
cars with your battery, is a fact, and we feel that in justice to 
ourselves, the least you cun do is to include our name amongst the 
other makers. 

We assure you that as soon as we can make some changes 
in our electrical equipment (we refer especially to the motor » we 
expect to be able to dispose of a goodly number of sets of your bat} 
teries. In the meantime we are advising our agents and all inquir- 


ers that we are ready to furnish Rdison batteries where wanted. 
With the writer's personal regards, we are- 
Yours very truly, 


ORANGE, Ne ie 


- AGBIS__ 

lr. Boo: 12/13/10. 

When in Detroit on Thursday I met the Treasurer of the 
Lozier Motor Car Co. and had a little talk with him. I mentioned . 
particularly our new sparking batteries and told him that at the 
price the Lozigk. cars were selling thoy should be equipped with 
the very best end highest type of accessories and that they shoulda 
use the Edison baettories. He said that they had thought of doing 
s0, were interested, and would be gled to look further into it. 
I wish, thereforo, that you would errenge to send one or two trial 
sets of sparking battories to Mr. Anderson as soon as possible and 

heve him turn them over to the Lozier people in order to tost 


them out. Of course this wants to be done just as coon as possi- 
ble, and you went to be certain that the betterics are in good 

F. LL. D. 

TON oe momen eae RTE, 


December 26, 191C. 

Mr. Thomas A. Edison, ; 
Crange, lie Je ee ee ae 

HEU toes ae 
Dear Sir:- 

I regret exceedingly that before leaving 
Orange, I did not have an opportunity tc thenk you 
for the much appreciated photcgraph which, thru your 
kindness, reached me by the ccurtesy ef Mr.Hutchison. 

This photograph, as it hangs in my study, 
will be an ever present reminder of the greatness of 
your works, and will add tc my desire tc help make 
the Fdison Battery and the Battery Car one of your ” 
greatest and most successful aids to ccmmerce and 

Your caution, as to not overloading any 
Battery Car installation financially, will be strictly 
observed, sc that our record will consist of paying 
propositions and not of failures. 

Assuring you of my greatful eppreciation 
of your kindness and the courtesy of your assistants, 
“I an, 

Very respectfully yours, 

.  Auadtey 


"THE Waverey (Ompany 


December 29, 120. 

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A very interesting article 
by you appears in the "Carriage & Wagon 
Builder" for December, and I hope you wild 
not take offense if I take exoaption to Y 

the article to thie SEietbeg 

You rebhe 5 CP Wen CR, ioe 1 

delivery wagons a: to the fact that the 
commercial vehicles now being manufactured 
costing from "32,000 to $3,000 each are 

absurdly high in priced, i A s that, 

Mr. Thos. A. Edison, 
Orange, N. d. 

We build our oy, ontroliefs, & 
motors, and in fact nearly wll the ca 
except the battery, but taking the standard 
prices for these articles and addins there- 
to the price of the battery, it does not = 
seem that the time is ripe when a one ton ; 
wagon can be sold for much lessé A really 7 
light car such as you are talking about 
woujd, of course, be considerably less, 
but even then the component parts, in- 
cluding tires, would run the price way 
above $600 or $700. : 

How can we who are trying to 
displace the horse and create a wider 
market hope to do so if such a great 
authority as yourself makes a public 
statement that our prices are too high and 
that it never can be done. Prices can 
only come down as the output is increased 
sufficiently to bring about lower manw- 
facturing costs. It seems to ma the only 

THOS. A. EDISON....0-#2. 

vay that the output can be increased is 
y talking up the present cars until 
both you and ourselves can reduce the 
cost of our product because of our 
greater output. 

I only call attention to this 
matter as one equally interested with you 
in popularizing the electric delivery 

I hope I may have the opportunity 
of meeting you again at Show time. I en- 
joyed exceedingly my call at your labor. 
atory last winter. 

Yours truly, 

EY FS Saba 

Vice-Pres. & Managers 



29th December 1910 

Thomas A Edison Esq 
Llewellyn Park, 
New Jersey 
Dear Mr Edison 
It gives me a grect deal of pleasure to 
acknowledge the receipt of your favor of the 24th instant. 
The garage question has been receiving considerable atten- 

tion, though as yet nothing definite has been done. I 

shall bring the matter to Mr Brady's attention at the earliest 

possible moment. 
You will be interested to know that Mr Brady 

has taken the chairmanship of the Advertising Committee of 

The Electric. Vehicle Association of America. One meeting 

hea been held, from which I am strongly of the opinion that 
the movement is going to be very successful. 

With best wishes for the New Year, believe 
me, | 

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1910. Automobile - Anderson Carriage Company (D-10-02) 

This folder contains correspondence and other documents relating to 
the use of Edison storage batteries in electric vehicles made by the 
Anderson Carriage Co. in Detroit, Michigan. Included are notes by Edison 
regarding the weight and efficiency of the vehicles, as well as 
correspondence with William C. Anderson, president of the company, about 
the outfit, performance, and promotion of its Detroit Electric automobile. 

All of the documents have been selected except for duplicates. 


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Detroit, Mich. seny. 8,1920 

Thos. Edison,Esq., 
Dear Mr.Edison: 

I am much pleased to acknowledge receipt of 
your beautiful catalogue and I have carefully read the same 
and in return take pleasure in mailing you our catalogue 
describing our proposition and illustrating our nine models. 

The writer leaves for New York to-morrow and shall 
arrange in some way to call upon you before returning, as I desire 
to have a personal interview with you and also have both of our 


engineers accompany me. 

ours very truly, 

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Thomas A, Edison,Esq., or Sy 
Orange N.Jd. 

Dear Mr. Edison; we" By 

I am enolosing you herewith a page taken from 
The Central Station magazine and would like to call your 
attention to the manner in which the Electric Storage 
Battery Co. strike us between the eyes. You will note 
every maker of electrics in this country is mentioned in 
this ad. They have kept up this method of trying to 
blackmail us for more than a year because we refused to 
sigm their contract which you are familiar with. 


We are compelled to use a few Exide batteries. 
Last year we paid them about $30,000. but this year we 
doubt if.we will call on them for over $10,000. You will 
note they have exceeded the limit in order to get a long 
list of makers, Below we will estimate for your information 
the number of cars each one of these makers build. 

Baker Motor claim (and I guess it can be depended 
upon) they will make this year, 600; 

Bailey, you are familiar with his output and 
I doubt if he has ordered from them more than 
3 sets of batteries in a year; 

Broc Electric, Possibly, 753 
Columbus Buggy, 500; 
Champion Wagon, possibly, trucks, ‘50; 
Couple Gear, 50; 
Columbia Motor Car, estimate, 100; 
eae. Carriage have never built an electric 

as yet; 

General Vehicle, you are familiar with; 
Ideal Electric, started to build 100 and 
Chicago papers claim they are in receiver's hands; 

Kimball, Chicago, built 9 cars last year and is 

out of business this year, bea | R&L of 


Thomas A, Edison : . Page -26 
Rauch & Lang claim they will build, 800; 
but we doubt if they exceed. 500; 
Studebaker, pleasure end, if possible, 100; 
Waverley, between 500 and 600; 
Woods, 350. 

This advertisement is a strong appeal to the people 
and we are frequently asked why we don'tt use the Exide 
battery, but we determined upon the open door policy ,namely; 
not to tie up exclusively to any lead battery. We are the 
ones they are fighting in their periodical ads,claiming to 
supply 90% of all the batteries used in electric cars. 

They know our output will equal two of the largest builders 
they advertise and it makes them feel awfully sore and it also 
makes them feel sore to think they can hypnotize or tie up 

all of the other makes but the Anderson garriage Co. 

On the opposite side of this page, you will see 
our ad. We regard this as a pretty strong appeal. It isa 
hard thing for them and no doubt makes both the storage 
battery and electric car builders feel terribly sore but 
it is just as the writer stated when down there, you will 
never get your battery on the market unless you advertise it 
and make the public demand the manufacturer to put it ina 
car. We have taken the lead and are willing to do so0 but 
we want your conoperation in every way and you ought to assist 
us to the extent of at least $15,000 to put half page ads in 
all of the leading deéily papers in New York, Cleveland, Buffalo, 
Rochester, Detroit, Toledo, Chicago, Denver, in fact covering 
the whole country. A large well written ad filled with cuts 
of the battery and saying to the world, you are ready to 
deliver batteries. yt need not be stated in the ad, if you 
do not wish it, that we and Bailey build a line of cars that 
will receive your battery,- we are not particular about that, 
but tell the world that your battery is ready and is being 
used by several of the leading manufacturers or something 
along that line, 

Every day and hour that I mix with our home people, 
I am asked the question, what is this I hear about Edison's 
battery? Are they ready to say. it is all right and are they 
ready to make deliveries? The public has been lied to by 
reporters for the last 5 to 7 years to the effect, you had 
built a battery and got it well in their mind that on account 
of its not being followed up and used as it is now being used 
by us, that it was a failure. fake it you are in touch with 
what the public feeling is, A strong well written ad, setting 
forth what your position has been in the past and is at 


Thpmas A, Edison Page =3. 

present, would start up a demand here that would just 
everlastingly stop this nasty talk. jf they cannot stop 
an intending purchaser from buying on the claim you have 
not sufficient voltage and you could not gp up a hill, 
they will start the story now in Summer, that in Winter 
your battery freezes and it is impossible to use it in 
cold weather and so on. They have a dozen or more ways to 
embarrass us and keep us on the defense all the time. 

To review the silly inquiries we received would confince 
you that the public is as ignorant as a flock of sheep. . 

; If my idea appeals to you as being right, 
that instead of spending a large portion of your money in 
tne periodivals, that a good share of this be thrown into 
the public press, would like you to advise me. You can get 
large and extended write-ups in every paper with a fair sized 
ad. Hundreds of thousands of people will see it and read it. 
and it will start them to talking your battery and will toa 
great extent stop the infernal misstatements. A guarantee 
“such as we put out in our advertisement can be so worded that 
it will protect you and protect us. Here in this city when 
a man questions the battery, I immediately say to him, we 
are repponsible and our warranty is good when we sign it and 
we are ready to sign it upon certain conditions, to the effea 
that the Edison battery will give you 50,000 miles without 
expense other than the renewal of the solution, etc. 

Mr. Dyer has been here and looked our facilities 
over and can explain, and no doubt has by this time, that 
we are in a position to handle the business. yf he has visit 
ed the other makers, he can undoubtedly make some compari sons 
that will be of interest to you. Our selling agencies through 
out the country are made up of the highest class dealers and 
we are in a position to give you a volume of business that 
will surprise you. we can just as well sell 100 sets of 
batteries a month as to be selling the number we are now, 
if two things are done, namely; 

A reasonable amount of judicious advertising 
through the daily papers and it is done now and let us 
co-operate with you. 

; Second; Keep us supplied with batteries. The idea 
of our trying to handle our business on a stock order of 25 
batteries is ridiculous. We have lost the sale since I was. 
in Orange and held up shipments of several cars. Only one of 
the three shipments that was booked for us has arrived. 
Orange is located badly for Detroit so far as railroad 
connections are concerned. [t is reported that you have only 
a local depot and it takes longer to get a shipment out of 


Thomas A, Edison Page -4- 

Orange into Buffalo than it takes from New York to Chicago 
not only account of your depot being a local one and but 

one freight a day, but the fact they run them into Buffalo 
and there they are transferred and delayed and held up 

and then they strike another local out of Buffalo instead 

of a through freight. I am going to: have our commercial man 
look this up. our opinion is now that these shipments 
should be routed, now that navigation is opened, via Buffalo 
c/o D & B boats which leave Buffalo every afternoon at four 
o'clock and arrive here the next morning. Furter information 
regarding this we will have sent to your company. 

Hoping this will have yours and Mr. Dyer'a 
careful consideration and we will hear from you by return 
tiail as to what your ideas are in the premises, we remain, 

Yours truly, pee aan els yas wey 

ne ye caste 
Enc(Clipping) “ 

thereby materially increasing the 


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This Car Convinced the Experts 

A more sincere tribute was never paid to the high 
standard of this electric than its choice by fourteen 
makers of gas cars for their private garages. 

The luxurious trappings, the generous proportions of 
the Detroit challenge your admiration ; but these manu- 
facturers demanded more than grace of line—they had 
to be convinced of the mechanical worth of the car. 

The Detroit is not merely a thing of beauty—it is a 

Every one of our:-nine models 
comes to you completely fitted for 
your comfort and convenience. . 

They range in price from $1650 to 

The Wizard used nickei and steel 
and made a battery of lighter weight 
and greater ampere-hour capacity, 

mileage efficiency. 

Good for 50,000 Miles — 
‘The Edison Battery 

Anderson Carriage Company, Dept. CS, Detroit, Mich. 

. eo : 7 
joy to depend on for pleasure and service over town and 

In the Munsey Tour the Detroit, the sole electric — 

entered, won the only official certificate ever issued 
to an electric in a reliability run. The Detroit will 
carry you anywhere an-auto may go with a mileage 
radius on a single charge faster than you will care to 
tour in a day. 

This battery is indestructible. It 
cannot deteriorate or sulphate and: 
may stand indefinitely without re-- 
eheraing: All the care it needs is to 

“water it” and “ feed it” once a year: 
with a solution of caustic potash. 

Let us send you literature that will / 
convince you as {o the possibilities of 
pleasure and service you may get out, 

of a Detroit. ~ : | 



e e e 
Sixty-Seven Million 
to be furnished 
~ This will be the approximate demand made this year upon Central Stations 
for charging current to supply 10,000 Electric Vehicles that will be sold. 
These vehicles ‘are bound to be used in the towns where the greatest c 
efforts aré made to popularize the ¢¢ Electric,’ y 
Many Central Stations have been active in aiding 10 sell «* Electrics’? and 
have earned big incomes from charging them. One station Jast year sold 
“$22,000 worth of current for this purpose alone. Remember the Electric 
Vehicle furnishes an ¢* off peak’? load. : 
“ Here is a list of the leading electric vehicle manufacturers, They all use ace 
our battery——the «¥Exfde” : The “Exide” Battery 
"Baker Motor Vehicle Co., Columbia Motor Car Co., * C, P. Kimball & Co.,” ; 
S.R. Bailey & Co., Inc., Elkhart Carriage & Harness _ Rauch & Lang Carriage Co.,. - 
Broc Electric Vehicle Co., Mfg. Co., Studebaker Automobile Co., 
~. Columbus Buggy Co., General Vehicle Co., The Waverley Co., - 
Champion Wagon Co., - Ideal Electric Co., < Woods Motor Vehicle Co. 
Coupte Gear Freight Wheel Co., ; : 
; Would it interest yeu to know what other Central Stations are doing to push the electric? Write us and 
-we will show you how to popularize the electric in your town. ‘ ee ae oie he Lhad 
1888 PHILADELPHIA, PA. 1910 
New York Boston Cleveland San Francisco Chicago _— St. Louis 
: Atlanta Detroit Denver Toronto 
Busi Builders for th ] i 
usiness Builders for the Central Station 
Can you think of a possible user of an electric vehicle whose 
particular requirements would not be met by one of the ten 
shown in the accompanying cuts? ‘These are business builders ‘ 
for the Central Station worth thousands of electric bulbs, 
hundreds of flatirons and scores of arc lights, 
Why don’t you go after the business? ; 
Exide, Waverley or National Batteries : 
Address for full particulars. . j 
Indianapolis, : : INDIANA. { 


ASF incrric 


Detroit, Mich, May 19th, 1920 

Thos. Edison, Esq., MAY 28 jo10 

Orange, N.J., 

My dear Sir:- 

Since writing you the longer letter enclosed my 
attention has been called to the two copies of advertising which 
the Waverly Company have sent out, which are enclosed. Both of 
these advertisements carry as far as the public is concerned your 
indorsement of the Waverly car. One advertisement is a reported | 
direct expression of yours, and the other, a strong recommenda- 
tion by reason of the fact that youdrive a Waverly car. 

What concerns us in this matter is the fact that 
here is a competitor of ours getting the benefit of your standing 

in the public and at the same time you are getting no benefit. 

from these competitors by reason of their using your batteries. 

We are advertising you and your batteries without a personal rec~ 
ommendation on your part of the Detroit Rlectric being in our 

, We would like to be able to Place your indorsement. 
of the Detroit Electric in our advertisement in connection with 
our indorsement of your batteries. What suggestion have you to 

Yours truly, 




“Now that’s the way to build a controller”--Thos. A. Edison 

This was the exclamation of the veteran wizard of electrical science after cnrefully examining 
the Waverley Patented No-Are Controller. 

Mr. Edison himself is an owner and constant user of a Waverley Electric Carringe at his beau- 
tiful home, Llewellyn Park, N. J. He has two Waverieys, 

‘Fhe Control Js the soul of your safety fn an electric car. It must be instantly responsive and 
absolutely dependable. 

There are four speeds forward and four reverse in the Silent Waverley. The Interlocking Device 
makes it impossible to start the car on any speed except the low, or to reverse the car with the 
power on, 

No tampering with the handle—whlle you are out of the car—no carelessness whatever,can cause 
4 sudden starting of the ear. 

So slmple is the Waverley control that you can learn it with one demonstration. And your little 
girl can run the car as well as you. 

The Silent Waverley Shaft Drive Has 
Years of Use Behind It 

The silent Waverley is the shaft driven electric carringe—the product of 14 years of electric car- 
i tlage manufacture. 

‘ The Waverley High-EMmcleney Shaft Drive (Patent applled for) is In its fifth year of road 
test, and third year of actual use in the hands of owners. 

Let us prove Its efficiency by taking you for a drive about the clty. Let us demonstrate the 
Waverley Silent motor. bullt {o stand the greatest overload—the herring-bone sears with an efficl- 
ency of 99 per cent, against 65 to 90 per cent In other electrics—the Waverley solld one-piece drop 
forged steel front axle made In our own factory. . 

Let us show you the beautiful Waverley bodlea with patented drop sill, and unusual window 
space. Try Its ensy riding full elliptic springs. 

The Silent Waverley is the only electric espccinily designed for solid or pneumatic tires. 

Exide, Waverley or Natlonnl batteries as desired, 


H For 14 Years Exclusive Builders of Electric Carriages 

139 South East Street Indianapolis, Indiana 
i Also sold by HEARSEY-WILLIS CO., 113 West Market Street 

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_ The Car that Tho 

A Waverley Blectric built in Indianapolis. This fact is convincing 

ne evidence that the mechanical and electrical features of Waverley 
construction satisfy the critical Judgment of the highest electrical 

authority in the world, Speaking of the new Waverley Controller at 

a recent exhibition in New York Mr, Edison exclaimed, “Now that is 

ny the way to build a Controller.” 

Thomas J. Fay, another electrical expert, and Editor of The Auto- 
mobile, made a careful examination and analysis of the performance 
of the New Waverley Motor and wrote of the results of his study: 
“A well balanced motor is what is desired; this characteristic as pre- 
sented in the Waverley is of just such a well-balanced motor.” 

The mechanical effictency of the Waverley Shaft Drive received 
u striking tribute the other day when the herringbone gear, which 
is used [n this construction, was adopted by the Westinghouse Company 
for use in marine turbine engines. Some experiments conducted by 
that Company developed the extraordinary results of 98.7 per cent 
as the mean average efficiency of this gear, a result that attracted 
marked attention from engineers and was fully described and llus- 

trated In the Sclentific American, 

Waverleys passing Harrison Mon-. re, 

6 4 
ument, Industrial Parade of nal 

April 1st " 


Mr. Edison's Waverley Leaving Ia Garage. 

ampled satisfaction to its users, 

the use of this gear, 

sUghtest accident or mischance:go wrong. 

ton in the country now building electrics, 
Phone or call for a demonstration, 
Exide, Waverley or National:Batterles sed. ~ 

The Waverley Company 

For 14 years exclusive builders of electric carriages, 

139 S. East St, Indianapolis 

Also Sold by HEARSEY-WILLIS COMPANY, 113 W. Market St. | 

mas A. Edison Drives 

The Waverley experts have obtalned equal resalis from the gear 
In use with their Shaft Drive, a system of transmission that has been 
in use on hundreds of Waverley carriages in the hands of owners in 
all parts of the country for nearly two years, and has gtven wnex- 

The problem of transmitting power from the motor to the rear 
axle with the least possible loss of efficiency (the most important 
Problem of electric vehicle construction) has been finally solved by 

With these high tndorsements of Waverley efficiency in mind con- 
stder the important fact that the Waverley factory {s In your home 
elty. The expert advice and assistance of Waverley engineers and 
electricians: are always at your service if anything should by the 

The Indianapolis owner of a Waverley Electric 1s never at the 
mercy of an inexperlenced or careless repair man, but may have at 
his call the skill, the science, the training of the oldest factory organiza- 


This Is One : 

This is one of the delivery wagons that we are building for the department 
store of the Newcomb-Endicott Co. in Detroit. A number of others of similar 
design are being made for Carson, Pirie, Scott & Co. of Chicago. 

My - fo ; ; ‘ 
(fa Gapary 



The capacity is 1000 Ibs.-the wheel base 84 inches. The equipment consists 

_of our specially designed motor with Edison Batteries. This car fully loaded for 

the entire distance has been run 93 miles on a charge about the streets of Detroit, 
at an average speed of over 12 miles an hour. 

Here are a few advantages of The Detroit Electric Power Wagon for you 


Important to Merchants 

to consider in solving your delivery problem: 



It cuts delivery cost in two. | 

Requires no chauffeur; may be handled by any driver of average intel- 

Does not need a skilled mechanic to care for the car, 

The Edison Battery is practically harm-proof due to its construction of 
nickel and steel. With ordinary care it will outlast the car. : 

It is free from insurance limitations; may be loaded on docks, in ware- 
houses or shipping rooms; and may be garaged on the premises, 

Anywhere that an electric may be used, the Detroit Electric Truck is 
the ideal delivery vehicle considered from the standpoint of low cost, 
cleanliness and care. 

Ask our Agent or write direct to 
Anderson Carriage Co. y 4 


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MAKERS * Peto. 


Detroit, Mich, Kay 2lat, 1910 

Thos. Edison, Esq. ) 

Orange, N.J., May a 

Dear Sir:;- ’ ™ (Of 

We thought possibly you would be interested in the way 
in which we ran an advertisement in a good many of the papers 
concerning yourself and the Hally comet: 

We believe the results of the advertising materialized 
greater than Hally's comet, which certainly goes to make the 
public feel that you are greater than the comet, very one feels 
that you have done more to make light shine upon the earth and 
heen more successful in that regard than the comet Was. 

Yours truly, . 

DIC .C. , 
( ) ; By Ab cictws : 






: battei#y has passed’ even the expectations of its inventor. 

tory and two ‘garages to show you the practical adyan- 
- tages of the Detroit ind the Edison Battery. 

687-689 Woodward Ave. 



‘Thomas A. Edison, with the arts of peace, has done 
as: much to revolutionize the social conditions of - his 
times; as did Napoleon in his day with the sinews of war. i aa 

It rieeded‘a car like the Detroit, of national prestige, we / 
of flawless: construction, to demonstrate convincingly to’ / 
the world the revolutionary advantages of his last inven- 

tion—the Edison: Battery. . } 
The, original nickel-steel batteries tried out. seven ; 
years ago are still giving service with undiminished ef: | 
ficiency. i : 
But the success of the Detroit with this improved yo 

. From all ‘points of ‘the compass—from Shanghai, 
Manila, Berlin—eager inquiries have;flowed into our fac- 
ory- wing the’ world wide interests .created by. anne. 

efforts. fet he 4 ook os PEGS cana tere : 
- Right at_your doors you have the facilities of our fac- — 

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j septate 
Colle Mdress CdisourNuYothe” 

Onange Mb June 2st 10. 

Vy dear Anderson: 

. The copy of a letter which you say 
was sent out by the Manager of the Atlanta office of 
a Lead battery company ioneiveds I wish to say that this 
is a first class sample of the lengths that the. managers 
of modern methods of business will go to in disparaging 
a competitor. For mendacity and untruthfulness this 
Letter may be considered the limit. 

I will, for your benefit, analize their 
‘statements to show you how dishonest it is, and what a 
“silly attempt it is to think they can any longer make 
dishonorable statements to the public without being 

found out. — 

"Anderson Brougham-= 
Weight chassis 1685 pounds, 
Weight with Edison battery "40 A-6 2400 * 

This battery will drive this vehicle 132 miles on a 
fair MacAdam road, with some hills and low grades 

when the battery is fully charged,- and 110: miles over 
the same road when rated capacity is taken out.” 

Now take out the Edison and put in the Lead 
battery of the same weight, s0 that the chassis: shall 
not be overloaded. This wiil be 24. cells of M.V. 11 
plates. This battery gives 6720 watts, which at 96 


JUNE 22, 1910, SEE LETTERBOOK, LB-083, PAGES 216-220.] 

W.C.A. a ee 

watts per carriage mile just gives 70 miles instead 
of 112 at my rating, and 132 full capacity. 
Now what do these people do to make a wiowiee 

nae | 

-{rv comp 
They put in 40 cells of ne battery in their figures 

gud Cann 

knowing ‘iat the motor is only made for 24 Lead cells 
& . 
and such a bettery could not be used at all. Tippee ww 


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- Byen if they could put it in and changed. the 

motor so carriage could be controlled, pir they run 

up against the weight. They understate their weight by 

leaving’ out their heavy trays, put leave them in the 

Edison and make other false statements as: to ‘the number 

of Edison. ‘cells, by ‘making it 43 whereas based 40.are used. . 

Now about the weight!-— 

Raison weight with trays - 14 pounds, 

40 MV 12° with trays e ae 14p0* ah 

Now oe Anderson carriage is right for 40 "A6" metas : . 

cells. “ach putting in 40 Lead cells there would be 2 

676 pounds overload. This is like adding four extra evel ees 

Persons dn addition to the two or three ore Seige 
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Boliier 3 satononte bon =a = : 

JUNE 22, 1910. SEE LETTERBOOK, LB-083, PAGES 216-220.| 

W.CoA. -=3- 

; te Waele © Commnptancor 
Their average efficiency, is about the same over the 

whole. wire of the battery as the Edison gives over 
several times the period of the life of the Lead battery. 

er ~ A Lead battery commences to deteriorate 

Efron we velive fa mechanically the moment you buy it. aaa 

was tonsil make this statement themselves. 

Cer Pyle 
te 4 Whe a Witness Instructions Appended Heretot- 

uss (en Gia ke 

+ at the Under article on "Condensed Instruction for the Operation 
‘ «at ya of Exide and Hycap-Exide Batteries." 
coals * boa n As a battery is used, a deposit (sediment) collects 
en 4" in ‘the bottom of the jars, due to the gradual wear ‘on . 

X. “057 the. (Plates. Great care should be exercised that: the 
be . wie wtf" sediment does not touch the bottom of the plates, 
le Bebe” n 
\ Ket thereby short. -edroudting them and materially | shortening 

: thé life. of the battery. Before this cours, the cells 

(eebee". joeor 

4 lk of # ee shquild’ be cut apart and the sediment rémoved. It is 

” yess eae impossible, to state definitely at what interyala.the 
Asien’ Ms ae ‘sediment ‘should be. removed, 28 this depeng on the work 

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JUNE 22, 1910, SEE LETTERBOOK, LB-083, PAGES 216-220.] 

WGA. a 

bottom one and three-quarters inches high, the sediment 
should be cleaned out when it becomes one and one-half 
ios ek, OY — so, if, after having been charged fifty 
(Ware ws Rae 5there is found one-half inch of sediment, then, 
at the same rate of deposit, cleaning should be done 
» phelaore vo after the battery has received 100 additional charges, 
or a total of 150; but on account of the more rapid rate 
of deposit ‘with age, it 4s necessary to make an allowance, 
- say 20 per-cent, which would mean Cleaning after a total 

of 120 charges. If, after 60 charges, three-quarters 
x “dich of sediment be found, then the battery should be 

“Cleaned after a total of 100, less: 20 per-cent, ox 
stent charges, Cenarty ‘he addition to the ofiginal firty).# 
bases Freee tees nie 

boy a privile eum 
cane never Gonnied oS cannot be. ‘compared. . The. Lead battery is a running 

[hy ere vopreslenlhasbonae, 

ome ot) 
ie ve va Ue carriag The. ‘Badson battery will outlast several Lead 
« aie 

{hs perwetier off sbaaysriony: and, ‘do the. stated mileage for many years; 
weed wy Gh whereas, no ‘dependence whatever can be put on a Lead epehll, 

ae ~<a co fame 
es ps "battery when used in a sarin ph | AR apres 
wart é t wnve Ea Avy rt st 
aes be Lip amat ere So uncertain: are ther,” ‘that Tiffany & Ce, wil, an pan 
a Martti ae rew. them ‘aut, and now Hearn} ‘’ Ge. the large deparseent Poe ; 
he pe 

"Hoganding the cost ef the two batteries. . They 

whereas the EAdegon is an investment like the 

“people manage their business 1 Dereon than . 
Yepartment stores, and this. fact ‘confirns. ae 

JUNE 22, 1910. SEE LETTERBOOK, LB-083, PAGES 216-220.] 

W.C.A. - 5 e 

that I say. ; 

I make it a rule not to attack competitors, 
but this case is 80 outrageous that I really cannot 
help it. | 

Yeurs very truly, 

Te W. C. Andersen, Esq., Pres., 
Anderson Carriage Company, 
Detroit, Michigan. 


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Condensed Instruction for the 
Operation of "Exide and Hycap- 
Exide Batteries 


le SHESE (4) successive hydrom- 

eter readings on each of these 

cells should likewise show no 
change. If they increase, showing a 
rise in the gravity, the charge should 
be continued until there is no further 
rise for two (2) successive readings. 

Note, however, that the charge 
must be temporarily stopped if the 
temperature of the battery gets 
above 110°, and must not be started 
again until it has dropped to 100° 
or lower. 

Keep the level of the fluid in the 
cells one-half (14) inch above the 
top of the plates. When it falls 
below this point, add pure water, 
never acid. 

Do not charge the battery if, from 
experience with the vehicle, it is 
known that the next trip can be made 
without charging. 

On the other hand, never allow 
the battery to stand entirely or al- 
most entirely discharged. When in 
this condition, it must be charged 

If a battery is not to be used for 
several days, it should be fully 
charged before standing. If it con- 
tinues idle for some time, a small 
charge should be given every two 
weeks, using the low rate given on 
name plate. Stop this charge when 
the cells give off gas freely. 

As a battery is used, a deposit 
(sediment) collects in the bottom of 
the jars, due to the gradual wear on 

the plates. Great care should be 
exercised that the sediment does 
not touch the bottom of the plates, 
thereby short-circuiting them and 
materially shortening the life of the 
battery. -Before this occurs, the cells 
should be cut apart and the sediment 
removed. It is impossible to state 
definitely at what intervals the sedi- 
ment should be removed, as this 
depends on the work the battery 
does and the care it receives. 

To determine when to remove the 
sediment, it isadvisable, after the bat- 
tery has been charged fifty times, 
to cut out for inspection one cell 
from the center of the battery. Then, 
from the height of the sediment, 
estimate when it should be cleaned 
out, making the estimate safe by a 
sufficient margin to insure cleaning 
before the sediment can possibly 
reach the plates: The sediment 
should be removed when it has accu- 
mulated to one-quarter (14) inch 
below the bottom of the plates. As 
an example, suppose the jars have 
tibs in the bottom one and three- 
quarters (134) inches high, the sedi- 
ment should be cleaned out when it 
becomes one and -one-half (14) 
inches deep; so, if, after having been 
charged fifty times, there is found one- 
half (14) inch of sediment, then, at 
the same rate of deposit, cleaning 
should be done after the battery has 
received 100 additional charges, or a 
total of 150; but on account of the 



more rapid rate 
of deposit with 
age, it is neces- 
sary to make an 
allowance, say 
20 per cent, 
which would 
mean cleaning 
after a total of 
120 charges. If, 
after fifty 
charges, three- 
quarters (34) 
inch of  sedi- 
ment be found, 
then the battery 
should be 
cleaned after a 
total of 100, less 
20 per cent, or 
eighty charges, 
(thirty in addi- 
tion to the origi- 
nal fifty). 

On applica- 
tion, the Com- 
pany will advise 
you where the 
above inspection 
can be most con- 
veniently made, 
and the battery, 
cleaned when 
which can. (be horse-power in motors 

determined only 

_by an inspection, or, if one of our 

own inspectors should be in your 
vicinity at the time, we will arrange 
to have him call upon you, inspect 
your battery, give you a report on 
its condition and give you general 
information as to its care and 
operation. For this service we make 
no charge. 

GO Bechstein, Ouwner. 

Franklin Baylies, Architect 

The New Franklin-Hudson Building, corner of Hudson and Franklin Streets, 
This building will use Edison Service for 2,000 incandescent lamps and 350 

In case, for any reason, it should 
ever become necessary to take a cell 
of the battery apart, the following 
points should be carefully noted in 
reassembling it: 

The negative group (gray plates). 
contains one more plate than the 
positive group (brown plates). 

Each positive plate is separated 


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General Vehicle Company's Truck Used by a Large Manufacturing Company 

from the adjoining negative plates 
by a perforated rubber sheet and 
a wood separator grooved on one 
side. The rubber shects must al- 
ways be placed next the positive 
plates and the wood separators next 
the negative plates with the plain 
side next the negative plate. 
Throughout the. battery, the posi- 
tive group of each cell is connected 
to the negative group of the adjoin- 
ing cell, thus leaving a free positive 

_ terminal at one end and a free nega- 


tive terminal at the other end of each 
tray, and of the complete battery. In 
connecting a cell into the battery, this 
point must be carefully observed. 

Increasing Use of Electric 

VEN to the casual observer, the 
BE great number of electric com- 
mercial vehicles on the streets 
at the present time must be a convinc- 

ing fact that they are the wagons of 
the future. From a comparatively 



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Petroit,Mich, jury 20,1810 

A. J. Dyer,peq., 
Edison Storage pattery Co., 

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Dear Mr. Dyer; 

I have your favor in regard to Grinnell Bros. 
and beg to say, we were . not grouping in the dark in 
making this complaint to you without knowing exactly where 
we stood. It was not only my friend but Mr. Bacon had a asimi- 
lar experience. It is an absolute fact that the Grinnells 
are not in harmony with your instrument. To give you the name 
of this particular party would in no way benefit the situation. 
Take it from me that it is true. I would not mislead you if I 
could on this proposition. 

WeC.A. LE Lise skced ore 

By oe Srosident. 


Bethe sot 


duly 22, 1910. 

Hr. W. ©. Anderson, 

Anderson Carriage Co., 

“Detroit, Mich. 
Dear Sir: 

Roplying to yours of the 20th inst., regard- 
ing the attitudo Grinnell Bros., ara shoving toward the sale of 
our machines, please accept my thanks for the vory great interest 
you are showing in this matter, which interest should eortainly 
rosult in bonefit to our business. 

. _ I can well understand thet divulging the 
names of your friends might result in some annoyance to them, and 
I believe woe cun handle the situation with the facts you have 
given us without going into details. | 

Thanking you very much for tho information 
provided, I remain 

Yours very truly, 

Prosidont. - 

Crrrtip Coens 

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Y cm ee 
Thomas A. Edison, Esq., ph he 

Edison Storage Battery Co., m “O Leth ue, 
Orange, New Jerse, . ociel by oN OB, aod ed 
My dear Mr. Edison, aN \ on see Gell ‘fel 

Evidently you have not quite _unders oe my Ce ies 
Lay b a) 
tion. The apparatus that you sent me epactiicaos ns on wot 

what there is a large demand on. that Ta iq wan is sea aokd a 

If there is anyway that you could nut some one 
job. and produce a rectifier at a nominal price, it wo | double 
our sales not only in large cities but in small cities. They 
all have electric current and they can. buy it at a satisfactory 
price, but after they buy a car and are asked to put up an 
enormous price for an apparatus of this kind, it stops the 
sale of many a car. . 

I take it you are too busy on other matters to give 
this your attention at this time. Hops you are not working 
yourself too hard and that the New York deal is now going to 
materialize so as to give us all some benefits. 

I await with much interest the papers to be forwarded. 
If we knew what papers had the advertisements in of course we 
Would be glad to subscribe. I wrote Billy Bee on that subject 
and take it he is taking care of it and that we will have’ the 

papers sent us, 


Awaiting a reply, we are, 

Yours very truly, 


WoC. A. 




iar TEL. 9220 SCHUYLER. 


COR.BOT™ ST. NewYork City October 6, 1910. 

Mr. John R. Anderson, Jr., 
Private Labatory, 
of Edison Storase Battery Co., 

(Orange, He de 

Dear Sir:- 

Mr. FP. TF. Plate, Vice President of tie American 
Express Company, 65 Broadway, ll. Y. C., would like some de~ 
tailed information about the Nt. Washington trip. He 
called HeAD on the phone, but I was unable to give him 
enoursh information to be of any value, They are watching 
the Edison Battery, and mey be large users of it. Please 
play this up in the very best way, and give the "DETNOIT 
ELECTRIC" a boost. 

Mr. Louis A. Voorhees, of 111 Carroll Place, New 
Brunswick, N. J. has written us asking for details of the 
Atlantic City, Philadelphia, Port Jervis run that was made 
with a "DETROIT ELECTRIC" and Edison Storaze Battery, also 
information of the run over the Ideal Tour. 

If you will write these parties, it will be 
greatly appreciated. 

Very truly yours, 



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Thomas A. Edison, Esq., 

The Edison Storage Battery Co. ehr Vv) AX 
Orange, N. J. : wy, (eal oe rN 
Hy dear Mr. Edison, we a 

When I was last with you, you will recall hai A 
I left with you a letter and copy of Mr. Weatherby's 

letter, which was simply somewhat of a model that I wished 
you to write, and you laid it on your desk and said you 49 

would write him a letter that would be pleasing and answezx*, 

the purpose. Therefore, if you have not done so, the yY % 
sooner you can drop this into Mr. Weatherby's hands th ef ow 
better. This man Harris is certainly. working his head 7 Ay 
off, and has in view several sales. Therefore, just the 

simplest little letter as coming from you, will simply 

urge him to work his head off, as the saying is. 

You also suggested that you would write me‘a pe 

letter to the effect that you were not a user of a 
Wavebley electric, or something that we could use to 
counteract the advertisement that he is handing out to the 
people. Every periodical in the country has a long story 
about what you said of the controller and that you are a 
user of two of his cars, etc. : 

I should think a letter simply stating that a 
number of years ago you purchased such a car and you have 
added to and improved it, etc., would answer. We do 
not want anything very severe; we simply would like 
something to counteract this in some small degree if 

Of course if you do not think it possible to 
do it, we shall acquiesce in your thoughts. 

Hoping that thie will find you well, and that 
your developments are coming your way, we are, 

W.C. A. 

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c/o Edison Storage mioey Co., (aoe 
Orange, N. 

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Subject; Your “Le 

You will pardon us for hurrying you on 
this proposition, but it is’ really a serious one as we 
see it. To iltustrate: We have under construction a third 
station in this city in the alternating current district, 
The garage gas a capacity of 40 cars+ To equip this new 
with the present apparatus, the investment totals not less 
than $3500.00, and it not only applies to this garage but 
to several others that are now being built in other cities 
under our supervision and advisement. 

My dear Mr. Edison:- 

It is our plan first in making an agency, 
to get them interested in an exclusive électric garage, and 
what stops many from going into the proposition is this 
nasty investment for the equipment changing the alternating 
current. Now, if your rheostate are going to come forward 
and are a success, it would make an entire change in this 
proposition, and it would be the most helpful thing that 
we can imagine for the electric car, and would aid us in 
getting more agents to handle our car, as the investment would 
cut down considerably more than one-half. This would aid us 
in getting a little more interest in the electric car. 

Now, I appreciate that it is hurrying matters 
to urge you for a definite statement on this matter, but I want 
you to write me by return mail advice in the matter, Shall we 
go on and buy this expensive equipment, or can we afford to wait, 
and in waiting is it a sure thing that you will have the equip- 
ment for us? That is the point, you will note, we want settl- 
ed if possible, 

: Yours very truly, 
W. OG. A. 4 


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Mr. W. G. Bee, Manager of Sal 
The Edison Storage B $ 
Orange, N.J. 

Dear Sirie 

satan eis letter gf the 23rd, enclosing 
us the copy of tn. advertisement /which you intend to 
run in the Chicago, “Deriverand! Kansas City daily papers, 
would say that we ‘hear$!ly;appréciate the benefit that 
this ad would be to “the-Edisor Storage Battery cause. 

There are only a few suggestions that we 
would make in the wording of the ad; for instance: 
in the first paragraph where you use the word "cheap" 
lead battery. We believe the ad would be stronger if 
you left the word "cheap" out of it, as then it would 
not be referring to anything but a lead battery, and 
that is exactly what you are driving at, whether it 
is cheap or expensive. The lead battery people might 
very reasonably say that they did not make a cheap 
lead battery, but made the best there was, and for this 
reason your advertisement had no bearing on their producte 

The expression "half the mileage" might be 
changed to read "a great deal less mileage", because 
we often sell an Hdison Battery to people who do not 
get twice the mileage that they have known lead batteries 
to furnish. 

There are other features that you could put 
in the ad which could be of a positive nature, rather 
than state the exact comparison between what an Edison 
Battery will give on a mileage basis and a lead batterye 

In the next paragraph you might make it read 
stronger by substituting the word "first" cost instead 
of "total" cost, and inserting the word "first" before 
the word cost, making it read about: "is first cost: 
the only thing?" eto. 

THE ANDERSON CARRIAGE CO, PAGE 2 oonte «= Nove 26, 1910. 

Mr. W. G. Bee, 

The strongest feature of the Edison Battery 
is the saving of the upekeep of the car from the 
battery standpointe 

In the paragraph where you refer to the 
seven years that Mr. Edison has been working on the 
battery, it might be well to write this to show that 
these seven years were spent on a battery that did 
not have lead as part of its composition. It is only 
by inference in the closing remarks of that paragraph 
that a person who does not know what an Edison Battery 
is made of, would catch the idea that it did not have 
any lead in ite F 

The writer's experience is that there is 

a great amount of ignoranceamongstthe public to-day 
as to what is in an Edison Battery, and for that 
reason, if this advertisement were illustrated with 
some of the plates of an Edison Battery with the 
expression to the effect that no lead to deteriorate 
or sulphate were used in its construction, it would 
possibly show the situation up stronger. 

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1910. Automobile - Lansden Company (D-10-03) 

This folder contains correspondence and other documents relating to the 
business of the Lansden Co., a manufacturer of electric wagons in which 
Edison possessed a controlling interest. Included is an audit report prepared 
by the accounting firm of Lybrand, Ross Bros. & Montgomery. Also included 
are memoranda and financial statements and a summary of orders completed 
and received. In addition there are numerous documents pertaining to the 
promotion of Lansden vehicles. At the end of the folder is an undated draft in 
Edison's hand of a promotional article regarding the use of the Edison storage 
battery in Lansden wagons. Among the correspondents are Frank L. Dyer, 
president of the National Phonograph Co. and vice president of the Edison 
Storage Battery Co.; Leonard C. McChesney, head of the Advertising 
Department; and John M. Lansden, Jr., and other officials of the Lansden Co. 

Approximately 70 percent of the documents have been selected. The 
items not selected consist of memoranda, letters of transmittal, and financial 
statements that duplicate information in selected material. 

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The Lansden Company 
Aub PASSENGHE AEAV ICE cH Electric Wagons 

54 & 56 Lackawanna Avenue 

Newark, N. J. January 10, 1910. 


BILLS RECEIVED: ~ $1935.39 ot 
AMOUNTS BILLED:— $3663.00 sek ¢ 

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Lice Zou, 

Total |! 

i Lil | Ei ! Viste 




One Electrette 
One Delivery Wagon 

One Electrette 2 Complete 
One 4~wheeled Baggage Truck 
One Taxicab 
One Fanel Wagon (Show) 
One Type 46 Express Wagon (Show) incomplete 
One Standard Express Wagon Body 
Three Type 356-A Exp. Wagon Bodies © $147.88 
Two Type 36-H Side Rack Bodies & $192.84 
One Type 46-G Body 
Two Type 46-A Express Bodies @ $187.83- 
One Taxicab Body 
One Type 36 Chassis (Grey Wagon) 
One E. V. Express Wauon 
One Type 56 Platform Body for testing (grey) 
One E, V. Chassis from Macy 
One Type -3 wheeled Truck 
One Type 86-A Ad. Express Wagon 
One Type 167-E Wagon No. 364 (Wagner) 

Instruments and Tools 
Furniture and Fixtures 
Patterns, Templates and Dies 
Drawings and Designs 


Wages due Pay Roll 
Wages due flight Watchman 

Wages due Sotre Keeper 

1000.00 2850.00 















1824.89 | 
1470.00 " 16033.64 

8528.26 19877.15 

34.60 858.60 



2168 1756.63 
2387 1676.12 
2530 1249.46 
2534 260.71 
2542 1077.21 
2546 85.00 
2597 3123.71 
2601 714.32 
2602 2124.24 
2755 108.13 
2766 6.21 
2813 46.16 
R814 6.47 
2821 B32 
2833 48.68 
2834 39.52 
2887 20.40 
2852 29,64 
2854 17.20 
2861 1067.90 
2862 452.78 
2866 7.62 
2869 ald 
2870 015 
2871 5.61 
2877 29.11 
2880 18.59 
2888 68 
2889 1306.56 
2890 230.26 
2891 15.00 
2892 99.40 
2896 30,39 
2906 725.29 
2907 368.08 
2908 565.56 
2909 _ 1y59672 
2910 ' 891.24 
2911 17.02 
2919 6.41 
2922 29.64 
2923 1.68 
2925 13.50 
2926 35.65 
2927 24.63 
2932 12.20 
2935 10.92 
2936 van 85 250 




Ame Wood working live do. 
Ae & Is Me Anderson Mee. Coe 
Lathrop Andoxson 

Ambcewg File 8 Indox Go. 

Ame Rollor Booring: 54 Whol Co. 
Achviillo Bataille & Go. 
Balloy & Alling 

Banista: & Pollard Co. 

The Barlov Pamdry Go. 
Baldvin Ohain & MPE. Go. 
BockvitheChandlor Co, 

de Ge Baitl 

Ae Hall Borvy 

Betton & Bbsen 

Briscoe HLS. Goes 

The BLllingy & Srencar Coe 
Brown Lipe Gear Oo-. 

dno, Boylo & Coe, Ina. 
Bdvard V. Brokay & Broe 

Wane He. Buehler 

Carolina Pine Products Co. 
Cary Springs Yorks. 

Cartay Wnlto Load Go, 

fac Cincinnati Ball Crank Go. 
fhe We tf. Cranc Cawiiage Hdwoe Co, 
Centar Motor Wo. 

Jane Ae Goo & Co. 
Gontinon:al Pibro Go. 

Ae GO, Gourtor & do. 

Ce. Gowlos & Go. 

Potor Cooper's Gluo Facto ry 
The Crosby Co. 

De Forge: Belting Coe 

De Voursnoy BroBe 

Re Ee Diets co. 

Gustav A. Dingolar 

' Diamonl Rubiier Go, 

Drivere-Harriag VWiee Go. 

Thomas A. Fdi son 

Edison' Phonograyh Works 

The Electro Dynamic doe 

Tio Hlesctric Storase Battory Co. 
J03. F. Hherimrd & Son Ince 

Edi ton Storage Batiovy Co, 
Willian H. Edvards 

Bieec., Nalntenance & Rapnaiv do. 
Enapibee Auto Supply Co. 

Tn0 English & Mervaisk Co. 

Tne Envlish & Movsick Lamp & Fdary. do. 
Estate of Willian Havkins 

The Fatrbanks Go. 

Faltouto Ivon & Stocl co. 

Poter A. Pransa & Co. 

Fivestone Tire & Rubber do. 
Gonoral El eotric doe 

THO PeHe Gill & Sons Porge & Meche Vorkoe 
Ge Ae Goldsmith. 

Tuc Goodycar Tlro & Rubbor Co. 
Croebo-Me Govern doe 

Gorton & Lidgerwood Co. 
Hardingo Brotuerse 

Edmund #.. Heath & Son 

Geargo A Hebb. 

Goorge Hoaly 

Holler Brotinrs Co. 

Tho Horseless Agoe 

Tno Fe We. Hortamann Co. 

T. P. Howoll & Go. 

Ue fT. Hungerford Brass & Coppor (oe 
Hyatt Rollor Boaring 00-6 





Zlst, 19096 

Brt Fude -- - = 1784S 6 75 

Jo Je Hockenjos Coe 

Honvy FP, Howard 
Intornational Time Resordint; Go. 
He Ae Jacgar 

Phineas Jonos & GO6« 

Vine Ae Jonos & Son 

Koewffol & Esser Co. 

Re B. Loonard 

Tie Light MP&e & Faye Co. 
The Lockwood Goes 
Ludlow & Squier 

Lybrand, Ross Bros. & Montgomery 
E. Re. HMorvill Spring Coe, 
HMassaciusetts Cnomical Co. 
Mockor Foundry Coe 

Lilllow Hloctric Goe 

Murphy Varn ci 06 

Tne National Lock Wags hoy Co, 
Newark Goar Guiting Hao itine Coe 
Tno New Devertiure MPS. COs 
Tne Hey York Poelephono Co. 
The National Saw Co. 

Newark Dosk Co, 

Howark Glass Coe 

New York Transportation Coe 
Tio Poitasote Cos 

Gnose Re Partdvidge 
Patriarche & Bell 

Hatbhiag Plun | 

Tne Post & Lester Coe 

P, Se GC. or Ne. de 

We Potorcon 

Pratt & Whitney Co. - 

Tho Retlay Salo: Go. 
Riverside Stoel Castin. Co. 
Roo & Gonover 

Tne Roberts Conl Co. 

Re Be Rodcigvws, 

Searls NPg. Co. 

De. FP. Sogolke 

Sler-—Bath Co. 

Singoa Sewing Machine Co. 
Ae Se Shomvood 

Standaz) O41 Co. 

Thomas A. Sandfard Co. 
Strieby & Foote Co. 

Spring Porci CoO. 

Gno Sahtvarg Wheel Coe 

Tne Soovilia & Pook Co. 
Cornoliussten Rick 

Thormoid Rubboy Company e 
20tn Century Auto Touring Coe 
Irving Underhill 

Ue Se Mo Adam:ito Motal Co.’ 
The Veoder Mf&e GOs 

Oo Te VOGLlLar & Sone 

Tuo Westbury Lemp Co. ; 
Weston Hleotric Instrument Joe. 
Ge Ae VWilloy Co. 

The Whitney MP&e Cos 

Frank Ase Whitten 

Ward Loonard Electric do. 



me : 


Adans Expresc Go. & 1930.90 
Adars Voniole Co. 13.50 
Aitken Son & Co. 2.65 
Central Smelting Works 174-,.02 
Ghamberlain Auto Co. Hed 
Dockor Hlootrisal Mfr. Co. 5.20 
Thowas Ae Edison 253 661 
Rdinon Phonograph vVorks 183.66 
Faivfield Dairy Co. 1-79 90 
Javes P, Fesnsy 099 
Janes A.» Hoarn & Son. 101689. 
Ae G@. Hydo & Sons 2625 
Job Re Kinsey é° L 
Lidgerwood MPa. Go. 50 
Re He Macy & CO- "120053 
Jot, de iandary : Lietd: 
Hotropolitan Opava do. 2673 «10 - 
John Hilliken 14.28. 
FP. J. Newcomb Mfg. Co. Bpate: 
Natinn Mtge Coe: . deo 
Nev York Tolepnone Co. ; 10299 
Tho Now York Edison Go. 355. 
New York Hospital 275 10355: 
Mortimer Norden 54,60 
Now York Transpo vtation Co. 15 200 
Pacific Improvement ‘Go. 152098 
Ee He Pike & Broa 3408 
MN. ¥. & Springfield Desap (T. SHEA) 2520.39 
Je le Streat . 5785 
Springfield Waste Coe 5.50 - 
Oscar Taras 6542: 
20th Century Auto Touring Co. 20,00 
Je We Brunbridge (Hotel St. Georga) 435° 
Ue Se Expitoss Coe 58 ef5: 
We Fe & COs Bxproms 6900400 
Wychoti-Church & Partdvige 206250 
Coorge Enrot ; 1,20 
United Blectric Go. of Ne J. 25 000 
” $2285 8690 


Momorendum of F. L. D. for discussion with Mr. Edison. 

Mr. Hansen of the Gencrel Vehicle Company called to see 
mo with W. G. Bee on Friday afternoon, January 21st. He 
first said that personally he had no objection to the Edison 
battery but believed that it had alroady won out, at least 
in some respects. I seid that we mew that representatives of 
the Electric Vehicle Company had made more or less disparaging 
remarks regarding the Edison battery and had called attention 
to the fact that it was practically a new thing, that it had 
not been sufficiently tried out and that its efficiency and 
durebility were not gueranteed. He replied that if these 
statements were made they must have been made by their sales- 
men, ond that they had very little control over what the 
salesmen seid. He asked me if we wented the Electric Vehicle 
Company to use Edison batteries and I said that of course we 
did. He then said that they would be willing to enlarge 
their battery boxes so that the vehicles of the Electric Vehicle 
Company could take the Edison storage battery provided we made 
some concession to thom. I asked him what concession he 
wanted. He said that the Lensdch Wore talcing edventege of the 
publicity and advertising of the Electric Vehicle Company and 
were selling vehicles at a lower price then the Electric Vehicle 
Company could afford to sell them for. I asked him if it was 
his idea that we should raise the price on the vehicles end 
he said it was, although he did not want us to raise the 
price so that the vehicle itself without the battery would 
be the same as theirs. According to his statements, the ve- 
hicles of the Electric Vehicle Company are better then the 

Tansden and show a superior result in practice. I told him 

that we would not change the price but that we did expect to 
go into the business more extensively and do some advertising 
_end general publicity and therefore that his objection would be 
largely taken care of. I said the time would come when they 
would have to use Edison batteries and that it would be better 
for them to meke provision for them now instead of being forced 
to make provision for them later. He then asked if we would 
be willing to sell out the Lansden Company, and I said that 
possibly later on we might do so, although at the present 
time we could not do so on account of contracts. I told him 
I would think over the matter and that later on I might have 
some proposition to mateo to him. 

1/21/10. FP. L. D. 

PorsonoL Oronge, I. d., Jan. a1,1610. 

Mr. dJobn ii. Lonsden, Jr., 
.@he Lensden Company, 

Newark, bi. d. 

Dome Saxe: 

I bog to confirm the suggestion made lest might, ot - 
De. Wdicon's request, thet in ordor thet the business of the 
Bonscnn Compeny mv be cerricd on as economically nc pos:cible, 
ond o satiofaetory showine vwltinvocly mede, all omacrimontal 
work be discontinued ond thot tho work of the company bo 
limited to the production of stock: mechines. Loter on when 
the compony gots in better chore, wo my bo in o nonition to 
teke un oxnorinontel Worl. 

Rogerding tho suggestion made by you ond Ti. Whitten 

thet the conpony chovld trke up a limited line of ndvortising, 

Iwill discuss this netter with te. Edison a: coon ap possible 

ond lot you Imow whet he deeides to do. Yersonally I think 
tho ougcestiongis a. vory good one, snd fron whet he hes said 
tO mo I believo ho will epprove of it. 

' Yours vory trely, 

PRD/ Lu t -Brosidont. 


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GO. ‘Glue. “enee me wav hoes bean done with this mat- 
for om how soon you tlyint: the ectrlogme esn be prevsred. 

po cble te give you cs lot 

Me. “MeChesnoey ¢ 

Yours very truly, 

FuD/ TW ‘ Yrosident. 


e Telephone 840 Branch Brook 
The Lansden Company 

AND PASSENGER SERVICH, pee Electric Wayans 

54 & 56 Lackawanna Avenue 

Newark, N. J. Feb. 7th, 1910. 

Mr. F. Le. Dyer, 
Edison Phonograph Works, 

Orange, N. d. 
Dear Sir:~ 

Replying to your favor of the 4th inst., would say, 
that we have been working on the hansden Oo. catalog for some 

We have in hand now practically: all the written matter 
requtred but we are not satisfied with its present form. We 
are engaged in rewriting now and should think this part of tie 
work mignt be completed inside of two weeks. 

We have a sonsiderable number of cuts already finished 
and are engaged in getting other photographs inade. 

It was our intention to have gotten the catalog out 
in January but we hald back in order to see what sort of a 
publication the Storage Battery Company was going to issue, 
as we did not wish to duplicate their matter in any way. 

You may be sure that this matter is receiving our 

best attention. 

a pce 
Very truly yours, ; je 
y AY 
The Lansden conf I oe 
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Orange, ¥. d., Fob. 8, 1920. 

lire FP. A. Whitten, 
Mho Lensden Company, 
Mewark, UU. d. 

Yours oF tho 7th inst. has been rocoived on the subject 
of the catnlogue for the Lancden Conpanyy. Please keep right 
after this and get oub the cotalogue as somn as possible, be- 
eause iwent to heve the metter entirely finished before Ur. 
Ndison roturns. 

As coon as you got the thing written up you might tale 
it up with liv. NeChesaney, wrose ideas on these subjects ero gon- 
erally very good. If necessary I ern then consider it before it 

Linelly goes to pross. 

Yours very truly, 

PLD/ IW President. 

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: Telephone 840 Branch Brook 
The Lansden Company 

par ae i 54 & 56 Lackawanna Avenue 
, + Newark, N. J. Feb. 26th, 1910. 

Mr. Frank L. Dyer, 
c/o Edison Phono. Wks., 
W. Orange, N. d. 
Dear Sirs- 

We received advertising estimate from the 
Wagner & Fields Company some days ago, but have not sub- 
mitted it, as we Learned from Mr. Me Chesney that he had 
not yet gotten anything from Colkins & Holden. 

Mr. Mc Chesney has today informed us, however, 
that he has received this proposition and we are therefor 
writing to inauire if it will be possible for Mr. Lansden 
and I to have an interview with you on Monday next at such 

time as may best suit your convenience, in order to lay 
this matter before you. 

Not having been able to reach you by 'phone, 
we are weiting, but hope that you will telephone us as 
soon as possible as to what time we may see you so that 
arrangements may be made in order not to conflict with other 

ai ea 

/ 7 \s Po Very truly yours, ; 

{ er e The Lansden Coe, o¢ ' 
E aa + RSE 

Ue Js, Pob. 38, lors. 

ure Thomes 2. Edison, 
Port iyers, Florida. 
Dear ir. Edison: 

It scoms protty tough to nnkko Ing suggestions ro- 
gerding tho Lancden Cormany by reason of which OXponses will be 
inervesed, especially in viow of the rottcan showing this month, 
whon not a single ordor was obboinod. jliot only this, but 
Bencden tolls me thet they did not roeeive 2 single incuiry 
rogording vehicles nor 2 ingle request for printod mother. 

Toam sure that so fur as thoixr cbilitios eo they are doing e121 


thot they en-to got riders, because when I see then they ell, 

fron Lansdnar dom, secon to be nyerchensive and herreassod, and 

I belicvo thoy are really trying thoir best. the situation, however, 
is thet whon orders come they are in relativoly large smounts but 

aro very infrequent cnd they arc obtained only citer herd fighting oné 
much delay. 

, ii. Hanson has resigned from the General Vohicle Co. 

end I havo. scon him a numbor of tines, nd ho has told me sono of 

his ovm oxporionces end the difPicultios in gotting orderg. He 

was tolling ebout he possibility of his taking over tho Lansdon 
Company, putting some eddit: onal capital into it ond trying to 
dovelop the proposition, but his idea vas to have sone sort of an 

exclusive arrangement for a limited period for the “discon battery. 

iain aaa ad ge rg Sh SE OR tues 

@, 4. Rdison. (2) 2/ac/20. 

I told hin to put his vro osition an writing end thet I would cub- 
mit at to you. 

. Rogercding the Tensdon Company, it seems to me that what 
Wo sre up egelinst is lock of public:ty. fhe vercontage of ovders 
obtained from prospeete is vory Lov, cond it is obviously neccosary 
thet + 

20 Vehicles should be brourtrs to the attention of muny more 

prosmoective purchasers. fhe other vehicle peorle erc advertising 

eulte oxtonsively, and Y th 

nik wea should. By dolag some novspeaper 
advertising ond onphasising the Peet thet tho Maison battory if 
used beliove that we would hear Pron a very large number of 
people who may have bean vutting off using cleetric vehicles 

until the Edison battery caue and that we would :1s0 hoor trou 
other poople who would be interosted becouse of the bettory. 

Such persone would be in adgition to prosnects vho night bo intber-~ 
ested in tho olooteie voliicle prenosition alone. Aggmuning this 
Wo would teke up on advertising campaign involving on oxponditure 
of about 431,000 nor nonth, I heave obteine. tyo propositions, one 
from Calkins & Holdon and ono from tho Wognor-Fiold Co., which I 
snd you under separate cover. 

Calkins & Holdon pronogo going into the New York om Lor 
throo months, once a wook, with odvortisoments tives colwms wide 
by twolve inches doop. With this publicity they would continue 
for nino months on oxpensive eircularizing compaign, Which, of 
courso, could bo mado very comprohonoivo at en exponse oF 1,000 
per month. Thoy ovidontly figuro thot by advertising in tho 
Hew York sun for threo months, circular mettor would be probably 

acoopted with intorogst by buoinerss mon. 

ir. 2. . Bdison. (3) 2/28/10. 

Sho Wagnor-Field Company pronvose a more comprohonsive 
phen AMP coing into the Now Youle Timos, the Now York Sun end the 
Brooklyn Regie, with edvortisencents two colume wide ond about 
throo and ono-leif inches deap, end wlso in the Commoreicl Volicle 
and tho Mowor Wagon one page cach month, and fLinelly threo nages 
ner year in tho Hloctrien] Vorld, Carriage Dealors Journel end 
The Carriage tonthly. 

It sooms to we thet the proposition of the Vopner-Piold 

Conpeny ia much more sensible end that by Serrying it out with gocd 

displey motter we ought te bo eble to work vp &® reasone.le cmhount 
or publicity. £ hedicve thet now is the timo to do tixis, becouse 
the publie herve beck hoaring Lor yoors abows iho Buigson battery, 
and with oll the reading mother thet we have been heving recontly 
on tha bettory cay I think that there would be many prosnoative 
purchesers who vould ot lLoeat be muePiciontly intorcsted to mate 
incuiriog. If thin is not done I velieve she dovelovmant of the 
Irnsden Comvany will be discouragingLy slow. Myen if you conten. 
plate polling out ho Lansdon Company, thio advertising would 
probebly vopay itself in tho added valuo to the businoss. 

I wich you would think over those quostions snd lot mo 
have your viota. 

Yours ‘vory truly, 



Mr. Holden: 

At the present time the principal office of the 
Lansden Company is in the Laboratory Building, and Mr. Harry fF. 
Miller is the person named Upon whom service shall be made. For 
business reasons it may be desirable to have the head office changed 
to Newark and Mr. John M. Lansden designated as the person upon whom 
Service shall be made. 

I wish you would prepare the necessary papers to have 

this change put into effect, and after they ‘are drawn up, I oan 

then consider definitely whether or not to put ¢ through. ae 
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5 I hand you horowith two memorandums from lr. Péicon 
on tho Subject of Lensden advertising, snd I have written hin 
to-day that ve have decided to go choad with tho plen proposed by 
Wagner & Plelds, limiting our advertising to nevwepeporsgin nOoW 
York City ond Brooklyn and to one or tro trade papers, the whole 
to cost not more than 31,000. per month. I wish you vould c 
right aheed with the deteiits of the vlan in concwltation with 

ir. Lensden cond Mr- Whitton, kooping mo advised is to progross. 
Pop/ In Po hed. : 



we o Orange, U. J., Merch 14, 1920. 

ily. Thomas 2. Eeison, 
Fort Myers, Plaride. 

Deer on Edison: 

Your two memorandums on the subject of the Lensden 
Comp.ny heave been rocoivad. I havo gone into tho matter ey;cin 
with Lar. MeChesnoy and ir. Eancden, ound wo believe that we should 
adopt the proposition submitted by Messrs. Wegner & PFiclds, 
spenging about (31,000 por month ond limiting tho advertising to 
iow Yorks and Brooklyn papers with the addition of one or tyvo trade 

Lansden always has on hend one or more wagons for. domon- 
stroting, clthough he seys thet prosnective customers seldom ro- 
quire domonstrationg te bo madc.. this annerently moans thet the 
poople Lansdon has 90 fer been in tovch Sotiga heve had sono on 
porionce with olectric wagons cond Imow whet to expect from them; 
but if our cdvertising is effective end results in incuirics, thero 
would no doubt be many concerns who have had ebsolutely no ex- 
perience with motor vohiclos and who msy be very gGled to havo a 
dononstration made. This is undoubtedly tho right idea, because 
lir. Manson told me thet sometimes the Eloctric Vehicle Compeny 
went so far as to actuclly build special wagons end put them in 
on @ month's trial, with the right to return thon if unsatisfac- 

Ordors from James A. Hearn wore roceived a few drys ago 

f. %. Edison. (2) 3/14/10. 

amounting to (321,000, comprising, as I remombor, two S-ton trucks 
and about 15 chessos, exclusive of bodios, Ravag and battorien. 
Hoarn intonds to uso 01d bo&ics Lor thoso chasses and to omploy 

old load battories in thom wtil thoy are worn out and thon to got 

Edison br-ttoriop. 

Yours very truly, 


ete he amet ne ene inna 

orm No, 260. , 

ROBERT C. CLOWRY, President and General Manager. Sane 

24,000 OFFICE 

Recelver’s No. Time Filed 


(Wight Letter) 

SE ND the following message subject to the terms 
& hereof, which are hereby agreed to. : 
ieee fe April 1, 1920. 

‘Thomas A. Edison, 
Port Myers, Florida. 

Steinway sold all horse vehicles and in. markot for ten trucks. 
General Vehicle Company offer to guarantee battories for throe 
years. Steinway probably accept offer unless we make similar 
guerantoe. Do you object Lansden Company guarantooing 
our batteries three years? Even if we did not guarantee we would | 
make good. if batteries failed within three years. Guarantee 
would be based on observance of best treatmont. Think we should 

-do this. Do you approve? . 
( Teetan. ek eee oe : 
Chg. Lansden Co. ar, ; 
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OO This Company TRANSMITS and DELIVERS messages only on conditions Umiting its Hability, which havo been assented to by thesendor of the follow: in ge mi 
Etre r 

my can be Meo ate last only by repeating non, bayou back to tho sending station for com) pariso nn. and the Company willnot hold itself Hable for errors or d. lelays 

Is not presanted In writing within sixty days 

p lf J ( 

Orenge, U. J., April 5, 1920. 
J. ii. Lensden, Jr., Esa., 
She Lansden Comrany, | 

Nowark, UW. J. 

The bearer, wr. Richard 2. Dyer, is my nenhew end is the 
young mon I spoke to you bow some time apo who wents to start 
in ana acquire & busines: exporlonee. . You sada thet you had 
an opening for him, and I will be much obliged if you will teke 
him on and give him something te do. i leave the matter of 

and duties entirely to you. 

Yours very truly, 

‘ BLD/ Ivy 

1 soe etetnataaind hi: be , 

Orango, UW. J., April 12, 1910. 

The Lensden Company, 
54 Lackawenna Ave. , Newark, NH. gd. 
Dear Cir: 

Yours of the Oth inst. hes boen recoived with onclosed 
guarantee Which you propose to make on the Edison battery for 
Steinway & Song. I have gone over this ouarenteo vith itr. Holland 
and we have made a number of changes, as shown in lead pencil. 

As thus changed, I have approved the cuarantec. I think these 
changes will vo anite clear to you end will not in ony way affect 
the effectiveness of tho guarantoe. 

_ It is not cloar »het the guarantee means by the oxpres- 
Bion "Full. working capacity as rated". It might mean that we 
guarantee the battery to drive tho vohicle the rated distance 
por charge and it might mean thet wo guarantee the t:.ttery to 
Give tho rating adopted by the Storago Battory Company. It is 
just as well, hovever, that this indefinitonessa should exist, 

because it gives us the opportunity of adopting cithor intorpre- 

I slso bog to roturn herovith tho copy Of the Steinway 
Yours vory truly, 


SS ee a oe t \ 



SF (5 


t I called up Mr. Whitten of the Lansdnn Company this 

- morning and asked when the catalogue would be finished. He said 
he would heve it ready to submit to the printers in a few days 
80 thet they could prepare a dummy, after which it would take 
about three or four weeks to print up the catalogue. We said 
the deley was caused by the fect that they had to got new motors 
to be operated by the new storage battery due to the lover voltage, 
and that these motors necessarily had to be testod out and new 
ratings obtained with their use. 

4/19/10. I. W. W. 


Report upon Examination of Accounts 

for the period Ist December, to 28th February, 1910, 






Lil CON a. Fiovs Bros. thon “you al? °F 
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New York, 25th April, 1910, 

Mr. Thomas A, Fdigon, 
Orange, New Jersey. 
Dear Sir: 
We submit herewith our report on the 
audit of the accounts of the 
for the three months ended 28th February, 1910, 

While the locs for the last three months has been 
$4,670.30, this is a very material reduction from the loss 
of the preceding three months which was $10,430.77, 

The decrease in loss arises from the fact that the 
volume of business has about doubled, while the fixed charges 
and other general expenses have remained substantially the 
Same as for the preceding period, 

The usual statements are annexed showing the Orders in 
Process and the Completed Machines. It is doubtless under- 
stood that the earlier numbers of the orders in process include 
costs of work which was largely experimental. As these 
orders are finelly disposed of there will necessarily be some 
loss in the process, but this loss will be absorbed in the 
current accounts from month to month, 

A statement is annexed showing the unfilled erders as 
of 31st March, 1910, which aggregate $65,312.50, 

Among the assets appears the cost up to 28th of February 
of improvements at 233 and 235 High Street, This account 
has been added to since, but it is proposed that ultimately it 
shall all be absorbed in the cunrertt operating by charging off 
apart of it from month to month, 

Very truly yours, 

(oe tl eft 

Qa, a ONY 

Sa GNA at 
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Comparative BALANCE SHEETS, 30th November, 1909 and 28th MFebruary,191o. 



28th Feby 
Plan t: 
Machinery . 1. 2. «© «© © © © © «@ 8 & 5,806.11 
Wools, Jigs, &c. . .« « «© «© «© «© «© « 3,096.11 
Office Furniture, &c. . . .« « © « -¢ 3,403, 12 
Patterns, Yemplates, Dies, &c. ., . . . 2,248.62 
Drawings, Blue.Prints, &. . . . 2. . 8,545.12 
Gompleted Machines . . 2. 2. + 5 «© © 15,516.70 
Orders in Process . . . . «© 6 «© «© + 25, 258,39 
Materinls, Supplies and Finished Parts . . 25,212.61 
Accounts Receivable Bs we Abs abr ue GR ee 31,132,13 
Csaoecn, fe G8 eo ee “ae ee. cde Ae ek 1,492.79 
Improvement Account 233 - 235 High St. . . 926,41 
Prepaid Wxpensep . . 6 4 + ew ee 313.55 
Goon Waid. Gar Bs ce Ged Mow ww ae ___ 3,000, 00 
Total Assets $125,942.66 

Notes and Accounts Payable . . . . oo. . $36,960.60 
Accrued Wages, &C. . 6 6 ele le ls 1,370.64 

Louns from .A,Edison and Natlonal Phonograph Co. 93,500.00 

otal Liabilities $141, 831.14 

xcess of Liabilities $ 5,889.48 


Capital Stock Ba Joa was ees. Ca - ae TWA Gy “a a $30,000,00 
Deficit . . . 2... a ae 35, 889, 48 

$ 5,889.48 

§ 3,198.74 
2,210, 42 
8, 524.30 

23,928, 37 

$100, 300,64 

$20,014. 27 

$101, 529, 82 

$ 1,219.18 

$30, 000.00 
31, 219,18 
$ 1,219.18 

rami SA es 


3 Months to 


Valuation put on Finished Parts produced ~- . & 1,960.42 
H * Completed Hachines produced 40,758.29 
Increase in Orders in Process . . . . « « 3,109.76 

$45, 828, 46 


Cost of iiaterial , including batteries - « © $25,540.27 

" “Direct Labor . . 2. .« 5 © 6 2 8,953.32 

Part of kxpenses added to costs approximately 50% 
of direct lebvor and material after cx- 

cluding Dntteries . . . . 2. « «2 11, 334,88 

$45, 828.46 


Sales of Machines . , .o 7 
“ " Yparts, Repairs, &c, a? he 

s+ 6 + $44,352.50 
oe 1,917.27 

Cost of Sales . . . 6 1 ee ee ee 44,202.54 

Profit on Sales § 2,047.23 


3 Wonths to 
28th Feby 1910 30th Novr 1909 

16, 543,195 
2, 846, 36 


$15, 203.45 
5, 924, 83 




23, 839.18 
$ 2,861.32 

Profit on Sales an above, . . . 6 © eh Ue CUS 2,047.23 % 2,861.32 
Expenses, including Salaries, Advertising, 
Maintenance, Experimental, &c, 
as annexed $18,052, 41 $19,327.23 
Less: Part of Expenses charged 
against cost of product 
asp shown in Proluction 
Account 11, 334.88 6,035.14 
Balance of Ixpenses charged off 6,717.53 13, 292.09 
Loss for three months to 
26th February, 1910 $4,670.30 $10, 430.77 


HxperimentaL ,  , 

woin tenance oo. 

Shipping, Reeeiving, 

Rent * 8 . 
Supplian os 8 
Power. , . 
Heat, Light, Vater, 
Insuranes . . , 
Labor... . 
Freight and Cartage 
faxes. . , 

Salnries eo te, te 

Guaranteed Naintenance 

Advertising oo. 
Photographs oe 

Commission es 

Stationery & Printing 

Sales fxpense , , 
Miscellaneous . , 

travelling . 


Telephone and Telegraph 

Fos tage o 8 4 

Discount and Exchange 


3 Honths 3 Yonths to 
28th Feby 1910 30th Kovr 1909 

$1,175.14 $1,346.95 
1,890.93 1, 276,36 
397.74 435.90 
845,00 545.00 
294, 68 338.33 
192,21 272.71 
391,40 235.36 
189,24 181,61 
191.69 157.69 
230,61 132.96 
13.86 25.54 
6,003.07 5,541.53 
1, 662,58 3,586. 26 
549,84 1,849.81 
96.69 862.41 
1,725,295 726.03 
223.36 457.64 
492,30 450,00 
1, 304,00 621,81 
184.05 337.60 
68.99 92.79 
52,25 90.75 

1203.67 40.61 
$18,052.42 $19, 327,25 

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ag at 26th February, 1910, 

Electrette , . . .« 2. « « 
Delivery Wagon. . . 2. «© « - 
Electrette 3/4 complete. . . . 
Four Wheeled hageage truck . . . 
Taxicab ., . 6. 6 «© 6 ew ew 
Panel Wagan (Show) i ae, Ser AB 
Standard Express Yagon Body a as 

Type 46 G Body Agape Nee Che 

" 36 A Bxpress Wagon Bodies © $147.88 
" 36 H Sides Rack Bodies @ $192, 84 
" 46 A xpress Bodies e $187.83 

® 36 Chassis (Grey Wagon) . , 
#. V. Express Wagon . .. «6 «6 « 
Type 36 Platform Body for testing 
BE. VY. Chassis from Macy, . . . 
Yype 34 wheeled truck eo ei 48 

at 167 B Wagon (#364) on al 

Transferred to page 2, 


$ 1,850.00 
1,459, 42 
1,124, 56 
1, 480,90 


ORDERS in PROCESS, 28th February, 1910, 

Order No. Name Amount 
2168 Red Touring Car . . . . . yy, ‘ % 1,756.63 
2357 Disassemble Brown Touring Car. , , , 4, 1,676,12 
2530 lo Taxicab Bodies. , , . . ee ee 1,249.46 
2534 ll Taxicab Chasses . . . | | ( , 260.71 
2542 5 Chasses Type 46 , , , | : hPa 1,077,21 
2597 Taxicab Test Car , . een at eis Yat eh Ga 38 3,123.71 
2601 1 taxicab Body - F, L, Dyer ae “is epee 714,32 
2602 1 " Chassis " Mel gee en a ee ag 2,124, 24 
2755 1 Body for Runabout , . , Bb meow “108,13 
2891 Body for J. CG, Meyers Co, a? gues +O, cas Ch. & 259.24 
2892 Chassis ., . , Wl WOR sty Wiig Oe. tae a. Poa 880.96 
2895 Repairs on Wdison Blue Car Pat ey eee 262.92 
2927 25 St. Gear Sectors ., , , Re ode, Ol Ge? 144,4 
2936 3 Chasses for Higbee Company . . . . 4 3,534.71 
: 2937 3 Panel “lagon bodies for the Higbee Co, < 717.75 
' : 2938 2 - 3 Wheel Industrial Trucke for 
i Hamburg American Line aS 26% Lae. Ves Pe 2,771.13 
2944 Chassis for Robert Gair, , . Bee ok 896.41 
2945 Body " " Meee fat Se0 ct ah doe yh ae 298, 26 
2946 Chessis for Columbia Storage Warehouse Co, 549.46 
2947 Body " rf " ' 4 126, 30 
2973 1 Chassis for wdison Chemical Co, ghee 866.64 
2975 10 Chasses for Abraham & Strauss . SN tn oe 1,074, 36 
2976 10 Bodies 4 a " Nose am at Ae 185,74 
Miscelianeous , ., , . . . . lle 579.53 
$25, 258,59 

transferred to page 2 , 



Unfilled orders and contracts 31st March, 1910, 

Columbia Storage Warehouses, N.Y.City 
1 type 36 EB Panel Wagon & 2,817.50 

Edison Chemical Works, Silver Lake, N, J. 
1 Type 46 G Truck 3, 450,00 

Abraham & Strauss, Brooklyn, WN. Y¥. 

10 Type 136 i Ponel wagons 29,000.00 

Otis Elevator Co., Yonkers, N. Y. 

1 Type G Warehouse Truck 2,200.00 
2 W " " 3,050.00 

Jas, A. Hearn & Son, New York, N. Y, 

2 Type 66 H Trucks 4, 395.00 
16 " 36 Chasses 16,800.00 

Steinwny & Sons, New York, N. Y, 
1 Yype 46 H Piano Wagon 3,600.00 




CAIRO, ILLINOIS, JUly 5, 1910, 

Mr. Thomas A. Edison, 
Edison Laboratory, 
West Orange, Neds JUL 8- ig{9 

My dear Mr. Eaison:-— 1/4 

Leaving, Newark last Saturday a few days before I had 
expected I wan not able to see you regarding a letter to Mr. 
Samiel Insull, After a short visit with my relatives here in 
Cairo I am going on to Chicago and I think it would be well 
to have our man there meet Mr. Insull, If you will give me a 
letter of introduction and forward to me here in Cairo, I will 
call upon ure Insull with our man Klingelamith, who has a number 
of good "prospects" in Chicago, 

I expect to be back around the middle of the month. 
Incidentily, cairo is not the coolest place for a visit, but 
was & g00d town in which to receive returns of the recent, 
mich lamented prize fight. 

Yours truly 

Mies Da Seth oe wt. 

Yiu ێ2 ace 
Are Cw ihy Lo hae ae 

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rtd Yung aa | R anf ene e 

ae deca GleBCpve eae willie tes 6. y 
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Bitwter, Gates & Lk etn. rm wl h ae tone: enon! Stas ef ty~ 

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Novembor 4,1910, 

Mr, Holden: ~ 

Referring to my memorandum of Octobor 21st 
to lir, Churchill, you will note that lir, Lansden has 
now carried out all the conditions of the Original ar- 
rangement with Mr, Edison, so that I can now transfer ss 
the stock I hold as trustee to Mr, Edison. Please see ; 
that this is done. Of course, I want to retain at least 
one shere to qualify me as an officer end director. 
After the stock has been transferred to Mr. Edison, 
please return the original letter to lir, Miller, dated 
August 31, 1908, The matter of contknuing Mr, Lonsden 
as general manager will be held in abeyance. 

FR. 1. D 



Financial Statement at Close of Month Ending December 31lst, 1910. 5 

ASSETS Paes z = an 
Cash . || ray 090. i : | a anal 
Accounts Receivable , £006 CHS. } J b NS . ae 
Notes Receivable aa : | | i | “ 7 eu 
Plant 289 CAPS. | ae ne 
Company's Machines 285000. a : ! H 

: -poralie 

Materials and Supplies 

Orders in Process . 

Complete Machines . 

Premiums on unexpired Insurance 
Undistributed Taxes 

Improvement Account at Hifh Etreet 
Frahk LL. Dyer, Trustee 

| i i : 
Accounts Payable i 76q321¢.. | mine oy one 
H i | i { , 
Notes Payable il 7 1.000, Oo} |. | 
J ae if | 1 
P . sok d : Accrucd Expense i 4802, | J at 
' . : Capital Stock \ 1300.00.00. ! . | 42 
: ‘ Th pe HL 
Pile t tay 
Hoe ie foi aa ae ropepape 
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soa SUMMARY re nrc reesei are 
_. Assets 
: Liabilities | : 
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eee pohassn ed 
~~ es en ee 


New York Edison Company . 
| Hamburg=Anoriean Line 

@. 0. Olson Cartage Co. 

Rorle Varehouse & lype 


Storage Co. 
Brooklyn, ye Y. 

Yew York, O. ¥. 

4 Type 
Nobolron, Ue Je 
1 Zype - 
Chicugo, 121i. ; 

i Type B6-E Ve.gon 

216-% fiagon 

606-G Doc Prueks - 

AZ6-6 Panel Vagon 

[s a 
Unfilled Orders and Contracts : “ ; Pe eta : 
oe eae A “| gidado ||) 
-. Home Geos Parsonea .. 1 Type. 616=8 Car + | @25000 , neces 
Ly aH Cairo, Tlie. a LPS ta hy el 
°4" Robort Guiry COs 1 Sype 3-E 6 ton truck 1 GBAOO LLY ah.. 
a Brocklyn, N. Ye eu eee 
'« _ Gimbel Brothore 4 fyp0 WVG-F Delivery Wagon. 1060000) |) |) 
Yow York,5.¥. 4 Typo 136-"% Delivery “agon. 1110710 OO.) |i | : | 
7 ; 4 Type 1362) Nelivory “agon 10 20,000: ee 
Rugene =. idee . 1 fype B6-Avagon 7 te 
oot... .. *hiladolphia, Yoo “ 2 
Pioneor Verehouses 1 Gyno 216 Checsis 
is Broozlyn, H. Ye : 
is f. He Orton . 1 ?yre Baker Vegon . 
7 ae Bridgeport, Conn. _ 
Boston Rubber “hoo Co. L Syve 46—4 Truol _ 
~ Malden, Meso. —_ 
Goorge Ehret ee. &, Habuilt Truoke 
i How York, le Yoo: |. 
| Armour & Company 1 type 66 Chassis 
hs Chicago, Ill. 



One Electretta 

One Delivery Wagon 


One 4 wheeled baggage truck 

One Luxtoab. 

One Standard Express Wagon Body 

One Type S6H Side Rack Body 

One Type 46A Express Body 

One Type 36 chassis, Grey Wagon 

One E. V. Express Wagon 

One Type 3 wheeled truck ; 

One Type 36 Platfarm body for testing 
One E. V. Chassis (Hacy} 

Type 136~-H Rack Truck somplete #455 (Shov) 
Type 168-J Patrol Wagon Comp. #476 (Phila) 
Type 136-E Panel Wagon Comp. £446 (Boston) 
One Type LS6@E Panel Wagon Comp. #448 (Chicago) 
One Type 256-M Truck Complete 7454 (Cleveland) 
One Type G wheeled truck "Kelly" Comp. (Show) 
One Type 3 wheeled truck (no battery 
One Type 136 Chassis 124" wheel base (no Batt) 



Instruments & Tools 
Furniture & Pixtures 
Patterns, Templates & Dies 
Drawings & Designs 


1000.00 $2850.00 










200.00 ’ 
1534.94 no batteity 





1548.44. $24008.47 

4257 89 
8540.32 $728984.85 

Interior Buildings ,fittings,ete.. at High St. 

Wages due Pay~-Roll 

z "  Night-watchmen, Janitors, Ete. 
4 " Store-keepers 

¢ " Garage-man 

wT ’ 

Demonstrator at Chicago 

878.06 $878.06 



25.71 $1480.62 


2357 . $1676.12 
2530 1136.66 
2634 261.88 
26420 600.00 
2597 $123.71 
2601 714.52 
2602 ; 2124.24 
2756 108.13 
2814 | 1828.60 
3252 142.38 
3328 764.59 
3330 . 2863.54 
3331 Z : 568.01 
3400 e 254.86 
3461 1724.11 
3459 87018270 
3460 5.65 
3465 185.18 
3464 Boe 201.15 
3490 11465.70 
3517 . 313.37 
3518 1926.95 
3529 : - ..1-LQ 008 
3547 4002.86 
3562 588.36 
3570 217.35 
3579 28.10 
3580 25.51 
3581 155.69 
3585 — a 57.04 
3586 162.12 
3588: 96.99 
3589 ; 86.33 
3590 - 33.78 
3591 Rin - 66.39 
3592 © sgt” 112.82 
3600 : 17.56 
3602 233.93 
3603 Ss 1169.13 
3605 — fo 1860.07 
3609 a 6.24 
3610 6.24 
3615, 51.03 
3614 ; 154.92 
3617 . 7 3Be65 
3624 468.37 
3627 | ys 457.51 
3628 | .. 1271.09 
3637 180.74 
3662 « 5.85 
3666 107.05 
3667 1044.80 
3669 171.61 
3671 817.67 
3676 2,20 
3679 1.15 
3680 12.06 
3681 52.40 
3885 3.93 
3684 | 525.74 
3685 126.00 
3686 18.31 
3687 3.40 
3688 095 
3689 4.28 
3690 6,03 



Abraham & Straus 38.01 

The Acme Garage 8,85 
Adams Express Company 39.90 
Adams Vehicke Company H.H. & Phila. 194.33 
Adams Vehicle Company Ind. & Rochester 50.06 
Adams Vehicle Company 3.¥. & Washimton 1307.00 
The Arlingtom Company 3.00 
Bayonne Hospital : 3000.00 
Balievue & Allied Hospitals 1.50 
California Electric Garage Co. 2,85 
Central Smolting Works (Samuel Rosen) 174.02 
Chamberlin Auto Company 27.55 
Carew Manufsucturing Co. 6.00 
Columbia Storage Warehouses 3260 
PF. L. Dyer 32.65 
Thomas A. Edison 306.94 
Rdison Chemical Vorke 169.44 
Edison Phonograph Yorks 122.98 
The Empire State Dairy Co, 1.20 
Fairfield Dairy Company 53.420. 
Federal Storage Battery Car Co. 18.35 
Firestone Tire & Rubber (Go, 76 
Forbes & Wallace 4.05 
Gimbel Brothers 56.20 
Robert Gair Company 10.00 
Globe Storage & Carpet Cleaning Co, 9.20 
Green Car Sight Seeing Co, 7225 
The Halle Bros. Go, 147 ,45 
Homburg~American Line 39 435 
James A. Hearn & Son 402.17 
A. G. Hyde & Sons 14.15 
A. Luchow 096 
R. FB. Macy & COs 319-11 
Nondel Brothers 2960.00 
John G. Myers Co, 4.50 
New York Telephone Company 15.46 
New York Transportation Comp: ny 11.50 
T. Shea (U.Y. & Springfield Despaton) 19,16 
Eiegle Cooper Co, 28.05 
J. Ie Street 60.60 
J. He. Small & Song $100.00 
Spaulding & Co, 135.00 
Springfield Waste Company 4.80 
Steinway & Song 61.01 
Paiess eee ‘ 96.10 
nite ectric Company of New Jorse 
United States Eaveesa Consens m ree 
Wells Fargo & Company Express 166.63 
The Williams Printing Co, 3262.25 
Winchester Repeating Arms Co, 34.50 
“vight-Dickinson Hotel Company 3500.00 
¥. d. Newoomb Migs Cos 8.00 

TOT A L+--~~--§80066.43_ 


i ey 

Aome Drill Co. 

Amberg File & Index Co. 

The Berger Msenufacturing Co 
Achille Bataille & Co. 
Banister & Pollard Co. 

The Barlow Foundry Co. 

Baldwin Chain & Mfr. Co. 
Bettes & Ebsen 

Briscoe Ufe. Co. 

The Billings & Spencer Co. 
Brown-Lipe Gear Co, 

Edvard V. Brokaw & Bro. 

Cr Spring Works 

Carter’ iinite Lead Co. 

The W.T. Crane Carriage Hardware Co. 
James A. Coe & Co. 

C. Cowles & Co, 

The Crosby Company 

Deforge Belting Company 
Diamond Rubber Co. 
Driver-Harris Wire Co. 

Thomas A. Edison 

Electric Motor & Equipment Co. 
The Electric Welding Products Co. 
Joseph F. Eberhard & Son Ine. 
Edison Storage Battery Co. 
Empire Auto Supply Co. 

The English Mersick Co. 
Paitoute Iron & Steel Company 
Peter A. FPrasse & Co. 

The Firestone Tire & Rubber Co. 
Freight Handlera'& Railway Clerks' Journal 
General Electric Company 

C. A. Goldsmith 

The Goodyear Tire & Rubber Co. 

Groebe-NcGovern Company 
Habne & Co. 

The Halle Bros. Co. 

Walter J. Harper Yo. 

Edmund BF. Heath & Son 

George Healy 

The Hess-Bright Nanufacturing Co. 
S. B. Howard 

T. P. Howell & Co. 

U. &. Hungerford Brass & Copper Co. 
Hyatt Roller Bearing Company 
Jd. Je Hockenjos Co. 

Industriel Wire & Metal ‘orks 
International Engineering Co. 
International Time Recording Co. 


RCEMBER Slst, 1910. 


73.85 | 




Hy 4. Jaeger 

Phineas Jones & Co. 
William Af Jones & Son 
Ve. He Kemp Coe 
Keuffel & Esser Co. 
The Kuebler Foundries Inc. 
Lebanon Steel Casting Company 
E. B, Leonard 

The Lockwood Company 

Ludlow & Squier 

Lybrand, Rogas Bros. & Vontgomery 
Manhattan Electrical Supply “Oe 
Massachusetts “hemical Yo. 
Miller & Company 

Murphy Varnish Company 

Nanz Clock Company 

Newark Machine Company 

The New Departure Mfg. Co. 

Naw York Telephone Co. 

The National Saw Company 
Newark Glass Co. 

New York Transportation Co, 
Eugene E. Nice 

The Hoera Manufacturing Company 
The Oelkers Mfg. Co. 

oi K. Orton 

Charies R. Partridge Lumber Ca. 
Public Service Electric Company 
Public Service Gass Company 

We Peterson ; 

Rising & Thorne 

Riverside Steel Casting Co, 

Roe & Conover 

Royal Ribbon & Carbon Co. 
Royal Typewriter Co. 

R. E. Rodrignez 

Sangamo. Electric Company 
Searls Manufacturing ~ 0. 

D. F. Segelie - 

Shaw & Potter P 

Singer Sewing Machine Co 
Standard O11 Co. ea ta 
Thomas A. Sanford Co. 

The Standard Welding Co. 
Strieby & Foote Co. 

Spring Perch Company 

The Schrars Wheel Company 

The Scoville & Peak Co. 

J. He Sliker 

Frederick N. Sommor 

S. A. Stephens 

The Rea Resy Co. of Newark, He J, 
Tolar, Hart & Co. 

United Manufacturers 

The Veeder Mig. Con 

QO. T. Vogeler & Son 

The Wagner~Pield Co, 

Warner Instrument Co. 

The Whitney Mfg.Co. 

Magnus Wilson Company 

Joel H. Woodman 

Orlando W. Young 


POD A Ty mmm one! 

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The makers of the Lensden wagon weve the first to 

realize that no permanent business could be built up in their 
line if success depended on a battery euploying the lead sul- 
phuric acid combination. That the dissatisfaction expressed 

by so many owners using this kind of battery radiating out in 

éll directions opinions that the electric truck was not a success. 
sut upon the advent of the original Edison battery they reslized 
that if the battory soul accomplish what the inventor pear 

or come anywhere near it that a permanent busiviess could be built 

up based upon the "satisfied customer" idea of doing business. 


At the time the Lansden Srothers antered the field 
there were only three or a nenuzecturers of eleotric trucks 
end most of those sold were soon abandoned by their ovmers not 
on account of the vehicles themselves at the uncertsinty and 

excessive cost of maintenance of the lead betteries: some few 
of the trucks continued to give fuir service where a firm head 
Several in use, end employed an expert and took care of the 
batteries in their owm gerage ~- but ee majority in isolated 

places were in almost all cases abandoned. The vehicles, while 

well made and Serviceable, wore too heavy end stiff; the idea of 

their desiener probebly being thet the moce rigid end solid the 

construction the longer they would last. She Lansden urotners 

perceived thet tiis was an entirely wrong view , thet no mechinery 

gets more jolts end jars than a repid moving truck heevily loxud- 

ed and. thet elasticity of construction with a derge factor of 

sefety, wes the key to the construction of dong lived vehicles. 

The extreme lightness of weignt of the Edison Battery was a great 
advantege in such a construction. 
The Lensden Compuny were the first to use a deep trussed 

frame, in fect trussing of #rames is even now not used in auto- 

mobiles, elthough universal in every reilway car- bridge 

roof) or construction where strength and lightness is required. 

.gein, the Lansden Company never used driving gears 

on their vehicles, only cheins sre used, geers cennot be kept in 
v & 

pitch line excevt in rigid constructions, end this class of 

construction has no plece in vehicles. The high and violent 

stresses which must pass between the teeth of a small drive gear 

is too much for any metal, they in meny cases reach the tearing 

point, the gear wears, gets out of pitch line end becomes noisy, 

and finally breaks, generally the construction is such that it 

ceunot be put in where the accidont occurs, hence it must be haul- 

ed to & gerege. Vith ohein driven vehicles you have the elas- 

ticity of the chain to reduce the sudden high stress to one 

spread over a longer time. ‘The grein engages several large teeth 

in the sprocket; no amount of stress will break these teeth and’ 

the only thing to break is the Chain - when this occurs a new link 

can be put in anywhere in five minutes. This practice is now 
after many years followed by our competitors. In the sesolene car 
most of them are shaft driven by a bevel gear Simply beceuse the 

public wented the car more noiseless, but oy high power and racing 


. Mechines the chain is still used. 

Again, the Lensden Company have nade but never sold 
trucks heaving bell noamhawe on their axles - and the reason is thet 
tests heve shown Just the contrery to the popular belief that 
there is no gain from their use, but on the contrary there is a 
complication. Ball bearings are good in their plece where the 
pressures are not high, but on the axles of an electric truck 
they are of a positive disedvantege. Tt is probably assumed 


thet because two vehicles, one i as one without bell bearings, 


the former is easily pushed across the gerage floor, while the 

latter requires considerable force, that there is a great advantage 

in ball bearings. They forget thet with the plain bearing the 

metals are in contact at these slow speeds and only when running 

does the oil lubrication come into play. Then, owing to uneven- 

ness of road, oil lkbrication is at its best, which explains where 

two vehicles of exactly the same weight, one with and one without 

bell bearings, the one with plain bearings will give the greatest 

mileage for the same power. They also assume that the pressure 

on the ball bearing et all times is only the weight of one-fourth 

of the vehicle. This is very far from the case. If the vehicle is 

going over & rough road the blow delivered to the solid rubber 

tire and wheel, and thence to the bell bearing gives high stresses 

amsunting at times to many times the whole weight of the vehicle 

end load. Under these stresses the balls deform because they 

' are hérdened and under ereat internal strain, and the Supposed gain 

is not made, but becomes a source of trouble. The proper place for 

ball beerings , if used, is on the: motor or jack shaft. 

The letest steel cars of 100,000 pounds capecity, now 

so largely used on railways, for heuling coal, weigh only 39,000 

pounds - which figures out one pound of car heuls two-and a half 

pounds of load. While the Lensden Company have not reached this 

point, they have come fairly near it, more so than one of its com- 

petitors who have built for one concern 25 vehicles each weighing 

4,000 pounds, and which, owing to the nature of the business. conduct- 

ed by the concern could never by any probability be called upon to 

cerry over 500 pounds. If this factor was used on the coel car 
bpagey & 
we would heve 39,000 pounds of car Nenling pounds of coal.® 

Take the Lansden one-ton truck which is designed to carry 

60 cells of the Edison A 4 battery rated et 10,800 watt hours and 


weighing 870 pounds, a load of one ton , we get a mileage of 

X aan s 
: 9. get fissures ~ 

If we substitute a light weisht lead battery of 56 cells, giving 
12,000 watts and weighing 1550 pounds, ea eves losd the vehicle 

the difference between 870 pounds EDESEREY pounds, to-wit: 680 
pounds. Evidently, if we are to keep our stresses the same we oan~ 
not cerry a ton but only 1520 pounds - but supposing we overloaded 
the vehicle 680 pounds, end the vehicle with Edison battery weighed 
2 tons, then at eee per ton mile we shall get a maileeee from 
the 10,800 watts of 54 miles; whereas with the substitution of the 

lead bettery, we get with 12,000 watts a-mileage of 51.2miles - 

but if the vehicle was strengthened on the principle that one pound 

of vehicle pulls a pound of freight, then the vehicle would heve to 

be increased 680 pounds, and this, with the 680 pounds <a bettery 

gives 1360 pounds to-use tue lead betteny, it would weigh losded 

5360 pounds instead of 4,000 pounds, and the mileage would be re- 

duced from 54 to 44.7. 

4s the present prices of cms vary from 70 to 90 cents 
per pound, and as 680 pounds of extra Geeks must be built to carry 
the extra weight of the lead battery, it will be seen that the low 

price of the battery is only apparent - as a matter of fect its 

first cost, taken in connection with the extra cost of the vehicle, 


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1910. Battery - Primary (D-10-04) 

This folder contains correspondence and other documents relating to 
the primary batteries produced by the Edison Manufacturing Co. The items 
for 1910 pertain to the manufacture and design of batteries and to sales 
arrangements with licensed dealers and agencies. Among the 
correspondents is Frank L. Dyer, vice president of the Edison Manufacturing 

All of the documents have been selected except for routine 
memoranda concerning orders and a payment to Eben G. Dodge, general 
manager of the Edison Storage Battery Co. 

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EY Orange, County—of Hos New York, U, S,A 
Dear Sir, a 
Y beg to hand you a repring of a publication relating to my 
Primary Dry Cells I have also w nice arrangement for Accumulator 

Plates’ which reduce the weight about 15% and more,+~-~ 

The primary cell however is fully experimented and finished 
and is 30% in advance of every maker in the world in capacity, 

The construction is cheaper and: more convenient, 
t havedbhe German and American Patents, 

Could you help me in your Country? ,, 

Yours faithful ly, 

~Larheel Peers | rou Greeny . MIRAI ASE Lecownt: 
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Messrs. Hudson= Leaming- Jubsrt- Rieshl- Redfearn- Eckert- Burton. 

Mr. Rishi will take inventory on Juno ist of the raw matsrial on 
hand at Silver Lake used in ths making of batterius. Genaral expenses 
iteu wili not bs included. 

From June lst all material with ths exception of sxpynse items 
recsived at Silver Lake will be charged to "Silver Laks Btock" for 
which an account will be opened on tha books. 

Mr. Hudson will receive a daily report of material used which 
will be entered and priced on Material Transfer Sheats. Upon come 
pletion they will be feurwarded to the Accounting Department to ba 
vouchsarad, Silver Lake Stock boing credited and Battgsry account 
cnargod. . 

Mr. Leaming wi1l furnish Mr. Yudson with a dally list of bills 
passed through his department, showing material, quantity and pric? 
of goods charged to Silver Lake. This information is for ths purpose 
of pricing the Material Transfar Sheets. 

If Mr. Rishl racsives goods from stock at BMIXWSOOE Orangs 
such items as belonging to the Manufacturing Co. will be entered on the 
Material Transfers crediting Battery and charging Silwer Laks. 

ALl requisitions for material required at Silver Lake will be 
forwarded by Mr. Rishl to ir. Hudson who will approves same and pass. 

on to Purchasing Department. 

5/280. WY. J. Bushisr. 

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July Sth, 1910. 

Mr. J. We Aylaworth: 

I return, herewith, letter to you of the Sra ultimo, 
from Mr. He. Ge Aylsworth, of San Francisco. 

Tha matter was referred to Mr. Hudson, who raports 
adversly on the proposition. I, therefore, cannot do anything 
in the matter, and wish you would write Mr. Ayisvorth to this 
effect, explaining the situation to hin. 

Mr. Edison suggests that if the storage batteries 
for sparking purposes develop in future, this night be a thing 
thet Mr. Aylsworth could get something out of, in connection 
with Mr. Nestor. 

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sae Pete sneha at nt 

June 20; G 919s oar 
AGMST tad | 

MR. F. L. DYER: - 

Vith the return of the attached letter from the Aylsvorth 
Agencies Company, San Francisco, I would advise that I would not consider 
it good policy for us to make an arrangement with any manufacturers’ 
agency to handle our business on the Pacific Coast. Our Pacific Coast 
business was hendled in this manner about ten years ago with decidedly 
unsatisfactory results. The chief objection ta this kind of an arrange - 
ment is that we are dependent almost wholly upon the activities of the 
manufacturers' agency to develop the business in any perticuler terri- 
tory, and it frecuently happens thet such concerns are unable to do busi- 
ness with some of the biggest buyers, for personal or other reosons, and 
that the manufacturer is unable to get the business direct because of 
guth agency arrangement. Furthermore, we are at present doing business 
with railroad companies, large gas engine manufacturers and jobbers on 
the Pacific Coest, some of whom buy through headauarters in the Rast, and 
the methods of hendling the business are go complex that it is @ifficult 
to have the business handled by an agency in just the manner desired by 
us. ; 

It would be necessary to allow a commission of from 5% to 
7-1/2% on all sales made by such an agency, and, as our business on the 
Pacific Coast is rapidly approaching the “100,000 mark, we could put a 
representative in the the territory, representing us exclusively, at a 
smaller cost than if the business were handled through a manufacturers! 
agency and with much better results, as we would then be in direct con- 
trol of our business and would not be so likely to lose our grasp on it 
as if it were handled through an outside concern. I believe further 
that the larger jobbers with whom we are doing business would prefer to 
deal with us direct, especially if we had a representative on the Coast, 
than to place their orders through an agency. 


“4° ey 
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(Copies for Messrs. Wilson & Hudson) 
Oct. Lith, 1910. 

Messrs. Edison & Dyer:- 
Herewith you will find Photographs of the New 

5 & 7-Plate Pocket Type Battery, and also data relating to the same, 
including list of parts and the approximate manufacturing cost of 
assembled elements: A 5-plate cell of 400 A--H capacity consists of 
the following: 
Noe 1. One Suspension Plate 1-7/16" x 1-5/8", soft cold rolled steel, 

copper-plated, with rigid riveted brass threaded stem in same. 
Ho. 2. Two Interchangeable Porcelain Separators. 

No. 3- One Iron Zinc-plate Suspension Bolt, 2-7 /_" long, copper- 
plated and amalgamated. 

No. 4. Pour Iron Nuts for No- 3, copper-pleted and amalgamated. 
lo. 5. One Copper Washer for No. 3, amalgamated. 
No. 6. One Vonnection Wire for No. 3 (size #11) copper, tinned, 

covered with rubber insulation, the latter being stripped 
from the ends, which are amalgamated. 

Hoe 7. Iwo Outside Zine Plates, each with copper hanger, amalgamated, 
270 grams zinc, net, each. 

Noe 8. One Inside Zinc-plate with copper henger, amalgamated, 400 
grams zinc, net., 

No. 9. Two Oxide Pockets consisting of iron. wire frame with end of 
stems threaded, beidge piece; the whole copper-plated with 
perforated sheet steel retainer; pressed in frame and ribbed; 
the same containing 350 grams of roasted copper scale, net, 
in each. Bach pocket is treated by being dipped in caustic 
soda bath and baked. 

No. 10. our Iron Nuts, copper~plated for No. 9, two for each pocket. 

No. ll. four Thin Copper Washers for No- 9, two for each pocket. 

The finished renewals, consisting of above perts assembled and 
ready for shipment, cost approximately, per 100, as follows: 

Cost of Cost of Foremen & Total 
Material Labor Inspection 
Zine plates complete with 
Separators, bolt, nuts, washer 

and wire, . 1... 6 1 ee 26.95% 2.462 232 29.66 

Pockets with frame, nuts and 

washers, loaded with oxide, 

pressed, ribbed, dipped and 

baked, 2 05s ew bw 6 ew 23.86 4.62 48 28.96 

Suspension Plate & Bolt, 1-34 48 005 1.87 

Assembly, . 2. . 1 6 «1 4 oe «50 *05 255 
Total, -.... 52.155 8. 06g sole 61.04 

One 5-plate renewal thus costs approximately 61d. 
In comparison a BSCO 400 A--H renewal assembled with suspension 
bolt costs 43%¢. 
Both cases being without soda, oil, Jar, cover, and suspension 
bolt nuts. 

(Page #2) 
A Y-plate cell of 600 A--E capacity consists of the 
following parts: 

No.» 1. One Suspension Plate 1-7/16" x 2-11/16", soft cold rolled 
steel, copper-plated, with rigid riveted brass threaded 
stems in same. 

No. 2. Three Interchangeable Porcelain Separators. 

Noe 3. One Iron Zine Plate Suspension Bolt 3~31/32" long, copper- 
plated and amalgamated. 

No. 4. Five Iron Nuts for No. 3, copper~plated and amalgamated. 

No. 5. One Copper Washer for No. 3, amalgamated. 

No. 6. One Connection Wire for No. 3 (size #11), copper, tinned, 
covered with rubber insulation, the latter being stripped 
from the ends, which are amalgamated. 

Noe Ye Two outside Zinc Plates each with copper hanger, amalgamated, 
270 grams of zinc,net, each. 

No. 8. Two Inside Zine Plates each with copper hanger, amalgamated, 
400 grams of zinc, net, each. 

Woe 9. Three Oxide Pockets consisting of iron wire frame with end 
of stems threaded, bridge piece; the whole copper-plated 
with perforated sheet steel yretainer,pressed in frame and 
ribbed; the same containing 350 grams of roasted copper 
scale, net, in each. Hach pocket is treated by being dipped 
in caustic soda bath and baked. ; 

No. 10. Six Iron Nuts, copper-plated for No. 9, two for each pocket. 

No. 11- Six Thin Copper Washers for No. 9, two for each pocket. 

The finished Renewals, consisting of above parts assembled 
and ready for shipment, cost approximately, per 190,as follows: 

Cost of Cost of Foremen & Total. 
Material Lebor Inspection 

Zine plates complete with 

separators, bolt, nuts, washer 

and wire,. . - « 6. © «© 6 6 6 3%.70 3.22 31 41.23 
Pockets with frame, nuts and 

washers, loaded with oxide, 

pressed, ribbed, dipped and 

baked. 2 2 6 6 6 2 es we eo ow e) 635679 6.93 072 43.44 

Suspension Plate & Bolt, 1.45 «54 -06 2.05 

Assembly, / .. 6 1. 0 1 a oe 075 .07 82 
Total, -..... . 74,94 dle T.16 T. 

One 7%~plate renewal thus costs approximately 87i¢., i 
the same being without soda, oil, jar, cover and suspension bolt 

As the 400 A--H BSCO Battery is the largest size at present manufactured, 
there can be no comparison with this new 7-plate cell as regards 
cost. j 

Both the 5 and the 7-plate assembled elements are designed to be used 
in connection with present stock sizes of jars. 

(Page #3) 

The estimate outlined herein indicates that the new 400 A--I 
assembled elements cost approximately 17 cts. per cell more than. the 
corresponding size of BSCO, considering labor, material and the same 
percentage for overhead expense. 

In addition to the marked improvement of these new elements over 
the present BSCO, as far as mechanical construction and appearance 
are concerned, the following advantages of the new type were indicated 
in a report sent to My..Edison by ir. W. H. Holland under date of 

1. Oxides of the loaded type have great mechanical strength, so 
that the heavy losses due to breakage (both during manufacture and 
afterwards) will be entirely overcome. > 
ge This construction mekes possible the building of oxides as thin 
and as large as is desired, and thus makes the multiple-plate design 
3. The oxide plate,being practically integral with this support, 
precludes the possibility of bad contact between the plate and the 
4. The rigid support of plates in the new design allows of spacing 
the plates closer together without danger of short circuit. 

1. Uniformity. Oxides made in the new way, being machine loaded, 
will necessarily run very uniform in weight and dimensions, and there- 
fore will have’ practically identical electrical characteristics: 

This is decidedly not the case with the present oxides; as the factors 

of weight, moisture, pressure, baking temperature and surface reduction 

all vary considerably, making a great difference in the quality and 

electrical working of the product. 

Page #4. 

2. Reliability. Great trouble is experienced with the present 

BSCO cell because of reoxidization of the copper layer at the surface 

of the oxide plate. This reoxidization occurs when oxides are kept in 

stock too long, and also in assembled cells when used infrequently or 

allowed to stand some time without use. It has been found by experi- 

ment that the loeded oxide plate absolutely eliminates this bad 

feature; the perforated container performs in a positive and reliable 

manner the functions of the copper surface layer, bringing the CuO 

in all parts of the plate into good metallic contact with the connect- 

ing support. 

3. Experiment has shown that at constant temperature the capacity 

of a given volume of the caustic soda electrolyte, that is, the ouan- 

tity of zine which it will dissolve, depends unon the current rate per 

square inch of active zine surface. In the 5~-plate cell the active 

zine surface is doubled, and in the 7-plate cell it is trebled. 

Therefore at the same discharge rate per cell the current per square 

inch of active zine surface would be one-half regular in the 5-plate 

and one-third regular in the 7-plate. This makes it possible to 

realize much higher capacity in a given size cell. 

4. With the same spacing of plates the internal resistance of the 

5-plate cell would be about one-half and the 7-plate cell one-third 

of that of the regular type with vlates of the same dimensions; but 

it is possible with the new construction to diminish the distance 
between plates to two-thirds of the present standard, thus decreasing 

, the internal resistance by one-third more. 

5. The working voltage of the multiple-plate cells will be much 

higher than the regular at the same discharge rate, on account of 

their lower internal resistance; or, to put it another way, these 

cells can be discharged at a new high rate and still maintain good 

Page #5. 

voltage. AS voltage is the weak point of the Lalande type of cell, 
this increase is very desirable. It is large enough in amount to 

allow of replacing a 16-cell battery with 15 or perhaps 14 cells. 

Ge On a 4 ampere discharge of regular and multiple-plate cells 
all in "SS" jars with 4 liters of 20% NaOH each, the results compared 
as follows:- 

Ampere Hours, (to saturation of solution): 

Regular 363 4-H 100% 
5-plate 452 " 124.6% 
Y-plate 533 u 146-8 

Average Yoltage. 

Regular .518 VY. 100% 
5-plate .570 " 110% 
7-plate .587 +" 113.3% 

Watt - Hours. 

Regular 187 100; 
Biplate 258 . 13873 
7-plate 313 167. 4i 

Consideration of plant maintenance and losses in manufacturing, 
show to the advantage of the new type cell. For instance, the present 
method of manufacturing oxide plates for the BSCO requires a series of 
special ovens designed to withstand the high heat necessary to bake 

the plate (about 1570° FP.) with a limited period of usefulness, 
necessitating the rebuilding of ovens at comparatively short periods. 
In addition a loss of plates running as high as 60% has been met with, 

the defect being in broken plates, buckled plates and a non-uniformity 
: . 

Page #6. 

in shrinkage. Also the consumption of fuel necessary to produce and 

maintain the high heat is an added expense. 

In baking the new type pocket an ordinary japanning oven will be 

used requiring heat of from 250°to 300° P., unlimited life to the oven, 

and a period of approximately but four to five hours for the baking 

process. The dipping of the plates preparatory to baking requires but 

about £0 minutes; and as it is anticipated to place about 24 pockets in 

a crete, dip same and load 16 crates on a truck, which it is intended 

to wheel into the oven, a great saving in time can be made in thus 

finishing the oxide plates. In addition there will be no loss of plates 

as all plates loaded and baked will be assembled. 

The following is a comparison between time required for 5 x 5 BSCO 

Oxide Plates and those of the new type, in which it is assumed that the 

grinding, mixing and pressings of the former about equal the loading and 

pressing of the latter and that the oven for handling each type occupies 

“the same floor space. 

Number of plates handled, 2400. 
drying on steam table after 

pressing, » »-........ 20 Hrs. 
hoading oven, ......4- 
Baking, 40 to 60 Hrs.Average, 50 " 
Cooling oven preparatory to 
unloading, ......... 8 " 
Unloading, ......+.s.. 2 * 
Soaking, Reducing, Burnishing 

and Drying, ....4..+44. 48 
Total, 150 Hrs. 
No- of pletes per hour, 16. 

4 loss of 50% in oven would further 
reduce the rate as the periods of 
loading, baking and cooling, also 
unloading, would be factors involved. 

The condition of the new cell is 

New Type. 

Number of plates handled, 2400 
Period of soaking, dipping, 
loading on trucks, wheeling 

in and out of oven and 

cooling, .......... 2 Hrs. 

Time in Oven, ..... 210 
Total, Te 
umber of plates per hour, 200 

such that orders for the necessary 

raw materials and machines and equipment for plant may be placed, also the 


lay-out of plant prepared and the requisitions issued for making the 
special machines and handling appliances, etc., mentioned in memo. to 
aire Dyer, under date of Sept. 16th, if, in view of the cost, it is 
decided to start manufacturing the elements substantially as the 
photograph shows. 

. G. Schiff}, 

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ity. Holden: 12/21/10. 
Referring to your momorandum of the 19th inst., I 

heave gone over the proposed agreement with the Waterbury Battery 
Company and so far as I can sce this agreement is correct. 

I presume you observed the point thet the Watorbury peorle 
will have a license after November 1, 1915, but will not be 
bound to any amount for minimum royalties. Assuming that 
the agreement is approved by Mr. Hudson and yourself, please 
make the necessary arrangements to heve it executed by Mr. 
- PLD/IWW PF. L. D. 


Primary Batteries 

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: Made by the 

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1910. Battery - Storage - General (D-10-05) 

This folder contains correspondence and other documents relating to the 
commercial and technical development of Edison's alkaline storage battery. 
Among the documents for 1910 are numerous items in Edison's hand, 
including a 20-page draft letter to Samuel Insull urging him to promote the 
battery among "our central station people" and a memorandum regarding the 
proposed guarantee on his battery. There are also documents pertaining to the 
manufacture of batteries and the finances of the Edison Storage Battery Co., 
along with letters concerning the use of the battery in submarines, buses, 
streetcars, railroads, and other applications. Some of the letters refer to the 
proposed use of the battery with the Klaxon automobile horn invented by Miller 
Reese Hutchison. Also included are numerous unsolicited requests for 
information about the battery, some with marginal notes by Edison. A sample 
of these letters has been selected. At the end of the folder is an undated 
typescript containing “instructions for the proper care of Edison storage 
batteries" and comparing the Edison battery to the Exide battery manufactured 
by the Electric Storage Battery Co. Among the correspondents are Frank L. 
Dyer, vice president and general counsel of the Edison Storage Battery Co.: 
William G. Bee, sales manager; and business associates Ralph H. Beach, 
Cornelius J. Field, Miller Reese Hutchison, Samuel Insull, Frank J. Sprague, 
and Walter E. Holland. 

Approximately 50 percent of the documents have been selected. The 
items not selected include letters and memoranda regarding company board 
meetings, purchasing, and inventory; reports on the use of lead batteries in 
submarines and streetcars; unsolicited requests; letters of transmittal; and 
items that duplicate information in selected material. 

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By J. H. Adams. 

: 66 HAVE Téund the mietaty” said Thomas 
A. Edison, “and the problem has 
oo [ been. solved." : bd 
nee The great inventor was speaking 
to me of ‘his wonderful new battery which is des- 
tined to revolutionize transit facilities and drive 
horses off the streets of all large cities. ae 
Running the gantlet of the high fence about the 
laboratory, the guard at the «wicket gate and the 
humerous Sentinels in the form of workmen who are: 
always on guard to keep’ the intruder from en- 
‘croaching on the time of the busiest inventor in-the 
world, the writer bearded the lion in his den up ‘on 
the second floor of the great. laboratory at West 
Orange, N. J., and after persuading him that the 
world was anxious to learn of his latest discoveries, 

eSpeclally in the line of storage batteries and cement. - 

Mr. Edison talked with: great freedom. 

“Singularly -enough,” ‘said Mr. Edison, speaking - 

of the battery, “after years of study and hard ta- 
bor, to say nothing of.the enormous expertise, it 
all came out’ right one day and now it is an ac- 
complished fact. ‘1 have found .the metal; that 
solves the problem." ' . : 
Mr, Edison was speaking of his new cobalt pro- 
‘cess, which .has produced a metallic compound 
that, revolutionizes the: making of electric ‘storage 

_ batteries, It ‘was to find the necessary ‘cobalt’ 

that “Mr, Edison made his recent extensive journeys, 
especially in the South: -* bed aa yk : 

_. Water Does the Trick: ¥* ™ 

Tn the Edison battery the ‘aetive materials are, 
oxides of nickes and of iron respectlvely in the 
bositive and negative electrodes: tho’ electrolyta’ 
—the Hquid in which the electrodes aye tm- 
mersed—being a solution of caustic potash. in, 
wator. The retaining cans aro of sheet stent 
electro-plated ‘with nickel, fused so that they 
are practically one’ metal. The battery is prac« 
Heally unlimited in {ts life. As only the water in 
the potash solution evaporates, so only water 
need be added to keep the electrolyte in the right 
condition. ‘There are no acid fumes to destroy 
the fron work of a’ truck or wagon and eateat 
away,, 18 in tho old style hatterles whero sul- 

“phurle acid is used, The Edison battery weighs 

about half-as much as a lead ‘babtery for the 
same output, and, in addition <iq; this, it wiu 
save about fifty per cent. of its weight In tho 
construction af tho truck itagit. “ePhe - battery: 

dak Bi atlary 
cannot be injured by overcharge eae not 

deteriorate when. left disehac’ ‘otters acces. 
sibillty to each ecli, makes “ble ‘tor ahy 
cell to be romoyved, and’ giv ¢ twiee the 
output or mileage of a leatl:; of the sate 
welght. : 7 i 
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Tee Mans. ae lowe ~—(F <7) 


Pennsylvania Packet, 1771: Daily Advertiser, 1784 
United States Gazette, 1789: The oldest Daily 
Newspaper in America 


January twenty-first 

Mr, Thos, A, Edison 
West Orange 
New Jersey, wee ft 

Dear Sir: 

We believe you wil] be ins 
terested in the attached clipping 
which appeared in our issue of 
January the twenty-first, 

Please accept same with our 

Yours very truly, 


A! 7 ey / 

eee UD, & OX de Ar LL rl aed 
Advertising’ tlafiager. 



‘Edison Pfedicts ft Will Supersede 
' ‘Trolley System En- 

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Special Dispatch to The North American. 

“WEST ORANGE, N. J, Jan, 20, 

Testa wore made today of Thomas A. 
Edison's storage battery car on the 
tracks of the Publ Servica Company. 
Among the interested observers were a 
number of men of the Public Service 
trolley systems, and thoy agreed with 
Edison thet ho has made great strides 
toward the perfection of o street car 
that can bo run cheaply and practically 
without the use of current wires, 
When tho first tests were mado Edison 
was not present, so confident was he 
that .ho would get a favorable report 
from tho mon who ran the car. He 
told them to go ahead, and he would 
not leave his work. in the Jaboratory, 
Later, however, ho visited the scene of 
the experiments and took a ride in 
the car, ‘ : ‘ 

As he rode over tho stretch of track 

Edison waa tooking out of the car wine 
dow, He saw two youngsters pointing to 
the car going along without a trolley pote, 
Edison siniled, and turning to the men 
who sat nt his site, satd: /Whon you 
were a kid Ilke those your eyes were just 
as big when you saw your first car going! 
along tho street without horses, /Those , 
youngsters will Hve to see the day when i 
thero will be no cars but this kind on the! 
tracks of street railways,” < ‘i 

The,car attained a maximum speed of- 
twenty ‘miles an hour, and reaponded fn! 
every way to the tests put upon {t. The! 
experimental car ts twenty-six feet long | 
and soven fect six‘ inches wide. It is | 
equipped with two 7%4-horgepower motors, | 
and charged to the full capacity of the 


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batterles {t will ruin 150 miles without a 
renewal of the charge. Edison's car 
weighs five tons, or halg of that of tho! 
ordinary trolley car. The cost of opernt- { 
{ing the new car is extimated by Edison | 
jte be 1 cont a milo, | 

Nits Pee 


c. J. FIELD * 

New York, Jan.21,1910. 
Ur.Thomas A.Edison, 
Orange, N.J. 

My dear lir.Edison; 

In accordace with my understand- 
ing with you on the building of electric onmibusses 
to operate with your storage batteries I have about 
completed the organization of my syndicate to back 
me in the matter. We are going to push the building 
of the first demonstrating bus and hops to havo it 
ready for your inspection and test by the first 
part of May. 

I have found it necessary, in order to 
satisfy the interests, to incorporate a small com 
pany vhich we propose to call the "Electric Onmibus 

and Truck Company" wrtese—yorswere——het. 
wowcall it the lidisonElostuicOmibuc Company. 

Awaiting your favor and approval of these 
matters I am 

Yours respectfully, 

c. J. FIELD 

New York, Jan.21,1910. 

My.Thomas A.Edison, 
Orange, N.d. 

My dear Lhr.Edison; 

In reference to the bus motors I 
understand from Nr.Beach that you propose later to 
take up tho building of the motors for the cars and 
busses for us. 

In the mean time I assume that I will have 
to purchase G.E. or other similar motors for our 
first bus. 

The size motors I have settled on have a 
normal capacity of 30 Amperes and 75 Volts at 
730 RPM, with 200% overload capacity for a half 
hour. This is the size and type on the plan I last 
presented with two motors for a bus with direct 
drive by single chain to each wheel. 

Yours respectfully, 


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Jan, 24, 1910, 

le, . h, Boach, 
lo Pifth Ave., 
Now York City. 

vear Mr. Reach; 

I hand you horewith letter from Mr, 
William J, Rich, the Examiner in the Patent office 
who has charge of the Storare Rattories, and vho 
hes acted on almost all of our Battory Applications, 
he has always been thoroughly interosted in the Edison 
patterics, and I wish therefore, if you have any reports 
or printed matter that I could sond him rolating to 
your experimont you will let mo have thom, end I will 
forvard thom to him, 

of course I do not mean anything personal 
oy confidential in cheracter, but anything thet you would 
be setisfied to have the genorel public Imow. I think 
it elways wool] to cultivate friondly relations with the 
Petent Uffice Ufficials, 

Yours vory truly, 

Vice President, 


= ing St, 

\ a Jen, 24, 1910, 

Mr, Williem J, Rich, 
Room 175, Patent office, 
Vashington, D.C. 
My dear Mr, Nieh; 

Your fevor of the 22nd inst, hes beon 
recoived. I havo not kept very close track of the 
experimonts Which have boen made in installing Edison 
BZattorios in stroot cars, and I only know very genorally 
what these experiments are. 

I underotand however, that Mr. Edison 
hao been able to construct a streot car of such great 
lightness, that when equipped with « full supply of 
Edison Batterics, tho entire outfit weighs only about one ° 
half us much as an ordinary motor car. And this is dono 
without o sacrifice of strength and durability. A number 
of Railxoad Companies hava shown © great deal of interest 
in this enterprise, and the ontire proposition seema to 
be one thot appeals very strongly to them, 

Ihave referred your letter to Nr, Beach 
who hes charge of these experimonts, and have ceked him 

to'lot mo have any renorts or publications relating to the 

Page 2, 
Mr, William J, hich, 
Jan, 24, 1910, 

same, and if ho doos so, I will sona them down to 
you. I Will give Mr. Raison your good wishes, which 
I mow he will appreciate, 

Yours very truly, 

Vico Progident, 



Le 5 Now York , Janz, 28, 1910 
Caldwoll, Ne J. 
Hy DEar Sir: 
. Mrs Faison has referred to mo for attention 
the clipping sent him in reforonce to yoar proposed Omtbussos 
aromd Caldwelly 

‘.¢ ‘The writor is in charge of tho building 

of busses operated with the Idison battery for the service you 

require and I would be pleased to take the matter un with you. 
I could meet you at my office by appointment or #0 out to Caidwoll 
and meet you and your people with the plans of om busses’ 

We have just what you want . Capacity 25 to 

ar) passengers, & pay as you enter go the moterman can operate 

Itsy x 
You have a splonted. dletrict there to operate 
fron & good route & I would bo pleased to take tho mattor up. with 

you at your a convenience 


Yours very traly. 

(signa) Cy Js Field. ; eo are ey 

- 4TA Me 
O Eainon. 

' The Edison Portland Cement Co. 


Taiienaar Siro kamen iieaigine’ Telegraph, Freight and Passenger Station, NEW VILLAGE, N. J. RELAPELEH Ia Pau Arcade Bullding 

W. 8. MAL.orr, vier rnicaiDENnt PITTSBURGH) Fact (inciiosne aging 
Win.ann 2, Tticin, scourrany BOSTON U MABE. Post Office Square Sidg 
TL Fy Muttacit, crisanvient p. o, ADDRESS, SLEW ARTSVILLE, N. J. BAVANNAH, GAs Nathonal Gank Bullding 

February 4, 1910. 

Mr. Frank L. Dyer, 
Edison Laboratory, 
Orange, N. J. 

My dear Mr. Dyer:- 

I beg herewith to enclose a letter from 
Mr. Willard P. Reid, which I would ask you to note and 
return to me, and to keep the contents confidential. If 
Mr. Field is the same one to whom Mr. Reid refers, it would 
be wise for you to have the information. 

Kindly return the (remorse as sonn as 
you have finished with it. 

Yours very truly, 




'Tuoman A, Enison, W. Be Maria, a. RANDOLON, AWWirara Dy laser 

= The Edison Portland Cement @. 

Inte gf ont’ We P, O. Address, STEWARTSVILLE, N. J. 

Telegraph, Freight and Passenger Station, NEW VILLAGE, N. J. 

Peandition ty Nuc) yt wils 

The potlce found ‘that the slot 1. 
had been ‘opencd with o ,heavy bigthy 
amith’s file. . . “Db, 


5 is, a 
+|Company to Employ New. Storage Sys- secalli 

tem Encouraged by Jersey Towns, | Cowle 

2 Special to The New York Times, you y 
MONTCLAIR, N, J, Jan. 31—A. tempo-| OPK, 

rary organization of the Caldwell com-| “Di 
horge, | pany that fs. planning to operate a strent | COW! 

spent | ar line Jn that section, equipped with the} «15; 

well | Edison storage battery, has heen effected | Co 
‘ive In| by the selection of Willlam Shears, a 
contractor, as President; Witbur B, Guild 
1: his} Vico President, and John J. ‘Ottenhelmer | ler's 
gn to Secretary, ‘he interest in the project Is[,"N 
eclde| such that it is sald that $100,000 can be| {hat 

= the | raised 1¢ necessary, St Fletde 2. rop- ske 
¢pera-| resentatlve-of Thomann Edison, Ras | photc 
f municated with Secretary Otten-| Nett, - 
> dis-{helmer saying that Edison can furnish | Gow, 

nflrm j just tho atyle of vehicle required—n " pay- 7 
tlends | as-you-enter’ car which could be pore aid, a 

iy tOl ated solely-by the man In charge of the] “Di, 
hi 3 motor, ¢ | ao a of yo. 
: y Tho Cedar Grove Improvement Associa-| tho plc 
id. tlon has Just been Informed by the Publlo] “1d 

Service Raflway Company: that tho ser-]| Att 
fortys| vice company has abandoned the project} WwW. Hy 
which| to run a trolley railway to Cedar Grove, | tho cc 
1 th and Cedar Grove residents aro - anxious |.by twe 
a the} that the new Hno be oxtended to. their | resont: 
t has| town to give needed connections with| who i 
& Cole! Caldwell, Verona, Montelalr, and other. was o1 

serva-| towns, 7 . | the ot! 
i te 3 destre¢ 
‘R. . .| Makes for health and strength: Quickly miged,j of tho 

Ady. | delicious, pure, and very easily digestod.—Adv.| Tr 

c. J. FIELD 




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New York, 2/11/10. 
iy. F. L. Dyer 

iy dear Sir: 

Your favor of the 7th & #1285 
addressed to Ur, Beach has beon reforred to the writor to ans. 
I enclose you copy of letter sent to Mr. John Oppenheimer of 
Caldwell, N. J. I” references to Busses not cara. 

The matter had been referred to mo 
by ir, Hatann jee you probably Imow that I am desighige an Om 
nidus to operate with the Edison Battery & then going ahead to 
manufacture them the same asm Beach is on the Cars’ lr. Beach 
& I are working in harmony on these matters’; 

I have been working on the mat 
ter for about 3 months & submiting the plans to Mr. Edison 
from time to time & saw him last just befor he left for tho 

ly full name is Cornelius J. Field, 
Thave lived in Brooklyn for a number of years & have been 
connected with the old Edison interests as Chief Ing. of the 
Edison United lifg. Cov then as Mer ~ of the Brlyn Edison Co. 
&& . THe Caldwell people put the article in question in 
the Bimes ,I have been very carefull as to what I have said 
on thse matters. V8 are proposing to put the matter into 
a small Co.’ with the approval of Mr; Edison‘. 

I will go out monday & see y) 

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; Lira Please note 1. NAME, BUSINESS and ADDRESS correspond with your inquiry. 

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CORNELIUS 7, PIRLN--------4---4---- Bo meni ene enna BROOKLYN, W.¥. 

_ 198 Pebruary 25th, 1910...Formerly 1294 Tean St. 
Ne resided at the above address but the house is at present vacant 
and is "To-let." Te is arsed ahout forty-seven and has heen identi- 
fied with various enterprises for several years past and aprarently 
- has not been successful in accumulating means. He was at one time 
of the Field Engineering Co., at 143 Liberty St., New York City and 
was supposed to have owned the bulk of the stock of that corporation 
which failed. From time to time he allowed judgments to be entered 
againet him. In the early part of 1902 he became President & Treas- 
urer of the General Motor Car Co., at 2359 West 50th St., New York 
City, a wew York State corporation capitalized at $10,000. That con- 
cern did a storage and repair business and also acted as selling ° 
agents- In July 1902 he claimed that that company had a paid in 
capital of $10,000 but declined further details. He was at one 
time connected with the DeNion Bouton Motorette Co., of Rrookiyn for 
. several years. We is a mechanical engineer by profession and some 
years ago had an office at 39 Courdtlandt St. On October 18th, 1902 
he filed a voluntary petition in bankruptcy, the schedule showing 
Liabilities of $30,189 and assets of $2,492. te received his dis- 
charge on necember Sth/ 1902. At this time nothing whatever is 
learned regarding him or his affairs or where he is at wesent lo- 
cated and he is thought to have but little if any financial respons- 
(N Q) C.U.M. 



STHED GORNMLIUS Tutt ete Hi Soria eal eee oo BROCELYY h-¥. 
Age wbout 47; married, . Formerly res ided--1394 
; ‘ ; Bean gt, 

we is a mechanical engineer and wag originally in the employ of 
the Mdison @lactric Illuminating co, of Brooklyn ,W.Y¥, severing his 
Connection there in 1889, we hes sinte haen interested in nunerous 
ventures individually .ang with ofhers,nut does not appear £0 have 
me4 with any puccess fo speak of and on a number of occasiong has 
been made u Judpment daptor, He formerly resided ut this address, 
his wife heing the Tepubed owner of the property ,but she recently 
Sold if and the fumily moved away ebouk o jaonth ag0,the only uddress 
he leaving in the neighborhood wus a business one,of the adigon 
ifg,Go. at, 10-5th , Avenue jhe York City ,wrunhattan.. Ke ig aid quite 
Capuble in hig ling ,bu4 repreagents no athuchuble responsibility and 
the wore congervy tive wuthorities would encourege him to buy for . 

C880 SSO A She ea Be ~March 2,1910, 


\ ' 
ce ug baz. SK 

President Vice-President and General Counsel General Manager Secretary-Treasurer 

EDISON haa Battery Co. 

(¥ / 
ORANGE, NEW JERSEY March 8, 1910. 

\ ‘ ’ 
Confidential J hawt aoe Be egg “( 
LAT Pretel — Wom toe 

a = re 
f am ia i 
Mr. Thomas A. Edison, gin al weer 

Fort Myers, Florida. 

Dear Mr. Edison: as cea see oe 

4. never puck ¢ af bos 
You mow, of course, vos oy man ss aaset) oe ornelius 
Sid we Oe 
J. Field is doing some work apparent rere tne direction an& in 
Sie cae: evtun/ CoO 

co-operation with Mr. Beac ‘In the |aeve foondat fe) ibuses for 
use with the Edison battery. He is located a at the 

4 Hew York Office. The enclosed leottor from Mr. Reid, datod 


“February and, to tir. Mallory was sent me with the nowspaper clip- 
ping referred to, and upon receiving at I immediately dic whet I 
could to investigate the matter. You will see that Hr. Reid 
does not have a very high opinion of Field's honesty and ability. 

Upon receiving this letter I- immediately wrote Mr. Beach: 
and asked him if the Pield in question was the. Cornelius J. Field 
thet ‘te: Roid speaks of, and I enclose ir. Field's lotter to, me 
of February llth in which he speaks about himself. 

I also have had a man ateonnt to interview tho men to 
whom Mr- Reid refers, end he found that ex-Surrogate Church 
would not talk on the subject and that Mr. Packard was away from 

town. Mr. Cochen, however, without hesitation and in strong 

lenguage referred to Field as a thief and utterly unreliable and 

unworthy of confidence, and statea that such is his reputation 

with all who havo had business dealings with him. this, however 

T. A. Edison. (2) 3/8/10. 

may be a very biasod opinion, beceuse I find thet the three men 
to whom hir. Reid neues Lost about $300,000 in an Auto-Stage 
venture that Field got them into. 

I heve also had commercial reports obtained, which I 
enclose, ond which are not very favorable. 

To-day while in the New york office I find that Picld 
is receiving mail addressed "Edison Blectric Omibus & Cab Co.” 
and that ho is having stock printed for a corporation called 
"The Electric Omnibus g Truck Co." with $100,000 capital. 

It looks to me es if this man might be a sourge of 
trouble to you in tho future. I cortainly think that it would 
be most unwise to allow him to go ahead and organize @ corporation 
with its headquarterg at our Office in Wew York and with his 
apparently close agsogiation with you as & ready means of dispos- 
ing of the stock. pergonally I do not think that you should 
continue to have him go ahead with the work because a man of this. 
reputation cannot bo a jeuakable person tO associate with the 
Edison battery. 

From what 1 gan hear about Beach he ig none too reli- 
able, but this other man I think is a very dangerous person to 
have around, at least go’ closely associated with us. I feel that 
as sure as fate he will be using your neme to exploit his schemes, 
if he is not already aoing so. ; 

‘If you agree with me I will heve a talk with him and 
tell him thet we consider it Undesirable that he should be lo- 
cated at our New York office and thet he must get an office 
Somewhere else, and I will impress upon him the ebsolute importance 
of standing on his om bottom so far as his work is concerned 

and that he can only announce thet the only relation he has to 

T. A, Bdisen. (3) 3/8/10. 

you is 68 & possible purchaser of Edison batteries when his 
Bus is fully desvelopoed. 

I thank this vould be a very moderate way to treat the 
situation. I 40 not like to say anything further, because I do 
not Imo hew fally you looked into the matter before taking Mr. 
Field on. 

Yours very truly, 

Enc- Peacck ZK. Hipan—> 

President Vice-President and General Counsel General Manager Secretary-Treasurer 

_-Epison Storace Battery Co. 

hasaualaiisictotitatyi: + 
Please refer to 

Telephone, 908 Orange BF cee as Sy oom to ao 

ORANGE, NEW JERSEY March eleven 
1 9 °~«2W 0 

Mr. FP, L. Dyer: 

I hand you herewith your letter of the 28th 
ult., addressed to Mr. Edison, and have carefully noted 
his comments. I understand perfectly what Mr. Edison 
wants, and we are doing all we can to produce flake as he 
desires it. I feel satisfied that there is a slight im- 
provement in each lot that we get out. The loading weight 
on the last two lots of flake has been corredted; lot 31 
was 4.2 and lot 32 was 4.3. I would state that the last 
report from Holland shows that the tubes are higher than 
they have been during my time. 

Ge, fat / 

Telephone, 908 Orange LP 


Bats Fi | Soran 

_, Grenier Vice-President and General Counsel General Manager Secretary-Treasurer 

~Evison Storace Battery Co. 

4y / 

ORANGE, NEW JERSEY Feb. 28, 2910. 

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et i ere. bre. how te ote Contes 
Fort Myers, tae ¥ « Cr at P= TE os Le {" Oo 
Dear Mr. Edison: tt pe ae ee ie mses Os 
Your ee ong o ° Be ese of slat na Plake in 

yet & Gy a.fee 
the battery was duly received, Sat at the time Holland was avoy 

a mas A. Edison 

from the Laboratory for a couple of deys over Washington's Birthe 
aey and in some way or other the matter was overlooked. I have 
taken up this question with Holland end beg to ohelosé his report, 
from which it would appear that the situation is not as bad as 
you feared and: that so far ag he csn tell tho flake is coming ag 
flet as can be expected. 

I also have taken up the matter with ir. Dodge, 2nd he 
has shown me his report to you of tho 18th inst. with your: endorae~ 1 
ments thereon. This report wes evidently recoived by you after 
you wrote mo, end since you do not say cnything reg arding the flake, 
I assume that you are not so uneasy over tho situation. ib. 
Dodge tells me thet he is doing 211 thet he can to get the flakes 
as flet as possible ‘and thet there ip < absolutoly no intention ox 
his part to omit doing anything thet you heva instructed him 
to do. He says that in some of the cells on which you have yee 
celyed reports the poor showing is probebly dus to another odatse, 
Which ho’ will write you about. fully, immodintoly. 

You, gery truly, 

Phere KI POR ass [x 



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fe. Gorneliup J. Mield, 
10 Fi2th Avo 

y dear oir: 


Ioan cdvined by iy. Edileon thet he wanld profor to 

ave you opteblish your office sonewheve else than at To. 10 Mith 

ave., booouco he is af you continnse to be loested thero 

sciscto betwee you end him will not be 


the omict reloatior 
mderstocd by the public, particularly as I widerstand you axpeot 

to form a commenyg for the oxplhoitetion of your cloctric busas. 


undorstend it, the only veletion between you and liv. Taisen 
ac to the omvent thet iv the bur is developed by you and »roves 
to ba a comversinl success ve cre 
batterion for operating the cone. Your ‘boing at Ho. 10 Fifth 

vb Lead the public to umepose that Mr. ndison had some 

closer connection to your onterprise than this. It is very 
imoortant thet his position should not be misinterpretod ond I 
think therofore thet it would bo very mich better if you moved 

your office to somo other placa. Of course such e change vould 

not in ony wey affect tho arrangement which io. Edison hes with f 
~ 4 te 
you. I heve no desiro to bo miduly prossing in the matter, but ba 

I would like to heve you arrenge to movo not leter then April 15th 
Yours vory truly, ff 
PLD/ IN Vico-"rosidont. L . 

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Peestent Vice-President and General Counses General Manager Secretary-Treasurer 

Epison SToRAGE Battery Co. 


Telephone, 908 Orange ORANGE, NEW JERSEY iferch 50, 1910. 


Cave U Ca be ere en, ae Ca o 
~ LA UY Mlk we GHG, 
Fort ilyors, Florida, ~ ~ Ra, [deo Gere 
Dear Mr. Edison: gat pre “f LWA se 

In accordance w- tth your requ page Negte em O- Oud 

Mr. Thomas A. Edison, 

Ur ede lua 
Field. asking him to givo up his quarters at the te pene office 
not later than April 15th. We camo in eae me thet 
tho only people who were interested with nee scheme who 

owmed stock in his company were his father, his brother and tv70 

or three personal friends. He said that they had no intontion 

to attempt to sell stock until the bus had been fully tried out. 
He said it was a very groat convenionce for him to bo located noar 
ir. Beach because he was able to exchenge ideas with Boach and they 
had an understanding betwoen themselves under which Beach could 
uso Pleld's ideas on cars and Picld could use Beach's ideas on 
buses. He also said that his Lottor paper and stationery was 

all printed with the address on it and thet it would pe some ox- 
pense to move. His finel request was that he bo allowed to stay 
at No. 10 Fifth Avo. until the first bus wes completed, which 

he said would not be later than the ond of May. 

He scoemed to have some inkling of what the troublo Wag 
because he said that under no circumstances had he attompted to 
take advantago of your name and had always been most careful to 
explain his exact relations to any prospective purchaser. 

Are you willing thet he should stay until the end of 

f. A. Bdison. ( 



Mey, or shell I insist thet no should leave by Avril 15th? 
I am not supposed to mor why you wentod him to go, 

so that I told him I would put the hatter up to you. 

Yours very iruly, 

FLD/IWy ee, aise ge Ze Fee 


March 51, 1910. 

llr. Cornelius J. Fiold, 
16 Pfth Ave. , 
Now York. 
iy door Sir: 
Wo have just rocoivod a letter to-day from the Dichl 
Manwlacturing Co., of Elisebethport, molcing inquiries concorning 
the Nlectrie Omibus 2 Bruck Go., in which thoy say: 

‘Wo are wider the improssion thet the Compeny is good, 

boing becked wo understand by Ir. Edison." 

This is oxactly tho situetion that I foerod and sihioh I 
presuno Mr. Edison also possibly onticipatod. Tho fect that you 
aro located at No. 10 Pifth Ave. woulda naturelly load noople to 
puppose thet lar. Edison in somo way hed fig root connootion with 
you. I understood from you yootorday that you wore always caro- 
ful in telling ovoryone oxectly what your connection with Mr. 
Edison woo, but you can see thet in thia oase tho wrong impression 
has beon created. i do not think it is foir to Mr. Edison that 
this situation should continue, end acting on my orm responsibility 
I must insiot thet you should male errangomonts for loaving our 
office not later thon April 15th. Of courge you undorstand that 
I heve no po sonal fooling whatover in this matter, but am only 
actuated by e dosire to protect Hr. Edison's intorests as far as 

Yours vory truly, He 

BLD/ TW a _Vioo-"residont.. es 


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10 FIFTH AVENUE SS eroveial : 
NEW YORK ee Aol 

New York, 3/31/10. 
Mir? Thos’ A. Edison, 

Fort Mayer, Flo. 
lily dear Kr. Edison: 

ir. Dyer has notified me of your 
wish for me to chacge iny office from 10 Fifth Ave. I went 
out & talked the matter over with him & he said he would 
write you & for me to do the same. 

I want to appeal to your fairness 
to let me stay hore ti11 I complete the first Bus & try 
it out, which will not be later than the early part of 
June. : 

In reference to putting the Bus °11 
business into a Co. I have only done so in a small way, 
{n order to protect the intereste of these who are backing 
me up in the matter)& privatly.; The ones in the matter 
with me are my Father CV R. Field a retired Real Estate 
operator; my brother, F. H. Field acooporation lawyer 
& 2 personal friends one of whome I introduced you too 

We are not offering the stock outside 
for sale nor do we fropose to till afkesdeveloping a 
successful”. Bus & then only privatly. 

We are running matters on a strictly 
business bassis. Our work is all being done for us in 
outside shops & our assembling also so as not bother your 
works at o1l.Mvery thing is being tammcc ordered in our 
namo.’ There is no connecting you with it in any way, except 
in so far as furnishing the batteries. 

Beach Car business is in a Cov similar 
to mine. We are working together on business & engineering 
matters & it 1s a great advantage I think to us & the 
Battery interests to have our location at tho same place’ 

I have an oppertunity of making a good 
future fo%myself & also a large user fob the EdisonBattery 
& all I ask is an oppertunity to make good on this first 
car & then move my business to the works where I am build 
ing them? It can make no serious difference, as I see , to 
pospone action ti11 I complete & try out the first Bus in 
dune, when I am sure it will prove satisfactory to yous 
Awaiting your further commands, I am, 

Yours respectfully? Fil, ; 




April 1, 1910. 
sir F.L.Dyer, 

Viee-Tresident, Edison Storege Bettory Compeny, 

wy dear Dyer; 

Ihave been thinking over the possibility of c guarantea which 
the Bettery Company could moke to its customers. Cf course i am aware 
of the fret that ir Edison objects to moking cny euarentee at all, and 
I guess it is «© safe proposition to sey that all guerantees rre bad; 
perhaps I might go so far as to say thet they ere the fruitful sil 
in which principally dissension and heart-ache tihrive. 

. However, it is a eustom in the storage battery business to 
moke some sort of a guerantee; in fact it is e custom of tho electrical 
business in general, end I might go further and state that it is the 
practice in 011 machinery manufacturing tredes to meke some kind of 
a guarantee of life and performance. 

I enclose herewith a suggestion as to the form of guarantce 
which it aprears to me es though The Edison Storage Battery Company 
would be perfectly justified in making, snd unless I have mede some 

mistake in the technical wording of this, it does not obligate the 
re) oT 




Company to anything. You will notice that qualified the 

form of guarantee to the effect that the ovmer of the bat tery i 
must follow the instructions as prescribed; this means thet he must 
follow these instructions absolutely; olso that he must show to the 

satisfoction of the Company thet these instructions heve been Lollowed, 
Now, of course, he will not follow these instructions and it will 


See eeeiSaentthts es Ae 

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furthermore be absolutely imvossible for the ovmer to be «ble to show 
or prove that he had followed the instructions, even if he hed, but TI 
am inclined to think that if we could have this snuarantee printed 
end eecomveny every set of battery, it vonld cntirely eclinincte that 
aveful difficulty wider which the selesman now labors. 

I don't want you to think that I on “butting in" or offering 
my “gratuitous advice” in this metter, but I constantly mect this 
difficulty, end chile it is possible to sell batteries end cors without 


Q guarantee, yet the customer doos fecl "that he ought to have something", 

Tohave no doubt but that if the “Yorks sell a battery and it 
should fail to perform every possible effort wowld be inde to do the 
square thing, vhether there was any guarantees or not, but that is not 
the point that Tam considering now. The point is that the Company 
operating a lot of vehicles or a lot of cars, perticularly the Gencral 
Moneagers or Purchasing Agents, must have at least something thet has 
the excuse of « guarantee, in order to satisfy their board of direct- 
ors, President, Stockholders or superior in authority as to whether 
they heave exercised due diligence end serutiny in siving their purchase 
the usual and proper business care. 

I an not much of a lawyer, but this "thing" which I enclose 
Ioen inclined to think vould do the business. It is very much Like the 
Life insurance policies. Ordinarily the average person cannot tell 


what their policies mean. I suppose very few Lawyers would bo able 
tell the true meaning of a life insurance policy, and I suppose as a matter 
of feet the policies do not mean much of enything, except that they satis- 
fy the man thet wants to be insured, end somebody usually gets the money 
when he dies; thet vas the idea I hed in mind in sketching out the 

form for guarantee herewith. I did not intend that it should mean eny- 

. a FID-5,. 
thing, except that it relieves the seller of the battery from that very 
unpleasant position of saying thet he simply cannot puerantee his owm 

Yours very truly, 

(Enels) , ; h 
: barh, 
OD SE io Men 


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OD cece reece eee e cere e eee ee weer eee eb IO bearing the number. ....... ec eee ween 
and hereby guerenteed against e1] defects of vorhmenship ond meterial, 
and are furthermore guarantecé to receive and discherge current to 
their normal rated capacity, which is.............., during © period 

of three (3) years from the dete hereof, provided the printed instract- 
ions vhich secompmy the bettery, end copy of which is attached hereto, 
eve fulfilled. Should the bettery herein described fuil to perform, 

as herein gueranteed to perfor, during the period above nomed, and 
the buyer shows to our satisfection thet these instructions have been 
complied with, this Comvany hereby agrees to replace the batteries 
herein deseribed with new betteries of the same type and snecifications 
as are herein set forth, 

Edison Storage Bottery Comnany, 

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making of’ a sien D very, nial db reey much more 

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store very much ee Sey sloed £ than phe 2 “fe Bast) id. 

understand you tte ie accomplished it cha was gi demonstration a few 

investment in 

gongl er iron Ore in 

quettes. Unf 


days ago in a Detroit Eleotrdo which pleas ery much. I am.told. they 

use your 8 torage battery and that it has a cpfacity for running from 160 
to 200 miles on one charge; that it is prac ically ‘indestructible and 
can be allowed to run down entirely before recharging: or can be recharged 
at any period without injury. 

I would like you to confirm the truth of these claims and ade 
vise me whether I would be wise in ordering one of these machines. I have 
great difficulty dn walking, and it would be of infinite value to me to 
have a machine that met the claims that are put out for this one. The 
price of the car is high. The car 4s: $1700. with $600. added: for veur store 
age battery if used. I would be greatly Andebted to you if you would ade 
vise me in this matter and shall be very glad to own @ machine which is 
the result of your genius. 

Very truly yours, 

ae Oe SRN NE Tee fare tere rome SS Raf ® s 2 A " 2 ae RN ye So I nL a a Oat: ecg epee ae | a2 cat gu arth sate 4 

Anvil 5, 19lc. 

Mo. GR. WH. Booch, 
LO Blfth Ave., 
Tew York. 
iy dear Mr. Beach: 

Yours of the Ist inst. has been received, on 
vhe subject of guarantoeing Ndison batteries, ond I am gled to 
have you veite me concerning this mueitter. AG oll times I an 
amuxious to voceive suggestions end edvice from everyone. 

The form of punrantoe you propose is substanticlly what 
Ihave hed in mind if the time comes whon ir. Edison would be 
willing to make ony kind of a Suarenypo. uy only criticion, and 
in fact the only difficulty I have over hod in thinking over the 
nettor is that the ordinery purchaser might consides the Bucvontoo 
50 guarded os not to be worth vory much. of course I ecennot do 
anything definitely witil In. Edison roturns, but this question 
is bocoming moro ox less acute and IT propose to take wp the matter 
with him then ho gots back. He is so thoroughly acquainted with 
the oxact situation thet I havo no doubt when hoe is convineod that 
a guerentoe should be made ho will hevo somo suggostion that will 
oxactly covor the point. 

Yours vory truly, 

PLD/LWY Vico-Prosident. 



Telephone, 9O8 Orange 


. ant cre : 
ates Shep os fs uA» 

Vice-President and General Counsel : 

General Manager Seeretary-Treasurer 

Epison Storace Battery Co. 

19210 : 

Mr. PL, Dyer: 

There is a slight change in the figures that 
I gave you, owing to the fact that the record of cells 
to be shipyed was dated Monday, and the orders on hand 
dated this morning. The figures now stand as follows: 

Cells on hand...... 7935 Cells on hand 7935 
Shipping In. Orders " " 6391 

structions....e... 1280 

Bal..... .1544 
Bal,on hand........ 6655 

Mr, Barrett of the Adams Express Company tells me that he 
will give me shipping instructions for about 2600 cells 
next week, leaving a balance of 4055, T have promises of 
shioping instructions for about 1000 more cells next week, 
This leaves 3055 cells, which added to this week's outnut 
of 1400 cells, makes 4455 cells on hand, 

Judging by the way the orders have come in this week 
we would be making a big mistake if we cut down the output. 
We have received orders for 2282 cells, and I have every 
reason to believe that we will receive more orders from 
manufacturers next week, which with what we will sell to 
replace lead batteries, from now on we will continue to 
receive urders for more cells than we will produce, 


fatten cele sete a 



April 12, 1910. 

nr Frenk L.Dyer, : 
Vice-President, Edison Storage Battery Co-, 

Orenge, Nd. 

Deer iir Dyer; 

Referrine to your fsvor of the 5th instent; 1 have worked 
out another form of guarentee, which might be better than the one sent 
with my letter of the lst. 

The idea I had in mind in making up this form was to make it 
avrear to be a letter thet lir Edison had written, and it would seem to 
me such a letter vould avnenl strongly to the average buyer as a simple 
end candid statement ond promise on the pert of the Battery Comya ny 
to chsolutcly guarantee the battery, vhereas, in point of fact, it only 
guarentecs the battery vhen the conditions of operation es per our in- 
structions (which would accompeny the guarantee, ere complied with precisely, 

I have consulted a very eminent jurist on this point, cnd he 
assures me that unless the user could prove that he hed literally com- 
plied with the printed end eccepted instructions, he could never recover 
under such ¢ form of guarentee. 

I hend it 4 you Herewith, for vhetever it may be worth, 


m pon very truly, 

Pd er e 
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Dear Sir; 

Ve heve teken from the a-4 Type of Bettery 500 discharges, 
ecnivalent to 40,000, niles, and the bettery has improved in capacity 
about 10 (ten percent). This bettery hes been in use constently 
for two and c half yeers. ‘This result hes been accomplished by a cere. 
ful end Literal compliance with the instructions and directions contein- 
ed in our book of instructions. MThese instructions are readily wder- 
stood end cen be followed by men of ordinary experience in handling 
thines cleetrical. “hen these instructions are thus followed our batter. 
ies will lest three years. ‘This we freely guarentee, ond furthermore 
guarantee the bettery against feulty operetion thereof due to defects 
of workmanship or meterial, end this guorantee will be made good if our 
obligation to do so should erise, by renlacing the batteries sent to you 
herewith with new batteries of the same type and specifications. 

Yours very truly, 

bi ee 

Fre sident. 


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April 22, 1910 

Mr, Thomas A, Edison, i ag 9: 6 

Dear Sir:- Guretprs he 
A sanpany has been formed, of which I am a mem. 
ber, to promote a trolley line from Millville to Ocean City, N. od, 
and we aro somewhat interested in your svorage batlery car, which 
if .practioal we Would Like to install, Gan a committba see you, 
and have ono hour of your time to discuss the matter next Thuraday 
@pril 282 

araiting your faver I an 

Yeurs truly 

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\* ir. Dyer: 4/25/10. 

Mr. Beach stopped in to see you and said thet Mr. Edison 
hed agreed to guarantee the battery for 600 complete dischargos 
and that at the ond of that time tho rating would not be lowered 
more than 10%, If the battery is not completely discharged 
every time, the battery will show up all the better. 

He said that the Railway people figuro that a car runs 
about 25,000 miles a year, but that in reality, the average 
would not be more than about 14,000 miles, so that he figures 
that it would take about three years for tho 600 discharges. 

I. W. W. 

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\w Beo: 5/2/10. * 

I hand you herewith a proposed form o? guercutes thet vag 

wovred out youtorday, the idea boing to adept it in the form of a 
Lattor to be written to any prospoctive user of Rainon battorings 
for commercial trucks and who may require & giarantee, conseanont- 
ly, tho ontroductory part will have to be modified to meot cach case. 
Mr. Edis:n has concluded not to guerantec the betterios 
for use with ploasure vohiclea, beeauso ho believes to do g0 wculd 
result in endless complications, and I ao not understand thet this 
is nocossary anyway. 

) I wish you would take this proposed guarantee and ada 

to it such instructions as are strictly necossary to bo followed 
for the proper handling of the battery. Do this in collabora~ 
tion with fir. Holland. , 

I will be beck fron UVrenton ebewt 5:50 this afternoon 
and I wish you would hevo this done so that we can tele it up with 
Ur. Mdison at thet tine. 

BLD/ IK: Pr. bt. D. 

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Regerding the installation of Bdison Storage Betteries 

you propose using with trucks furnished by the Co. 

the Edison Storage Battery Co. Guarantees that such batteries for 

& period of three years shall be capable of devoloping within 

10% of the reted capacity of the battery (fype A-4 ampere 

hours; Type A-6 ampere hours, and Type A-8 ampere 
hours) when a roagonable ineroase ih the charging current is used; 

and should the battery fall below such guerenteed rating during 


aid period the Comvany will rebate to the pureheser 2 pro reta 
amount of the list price corresponding to the unexpired portion of 
the guerantecd period of three years, provided always, that. the 
following instructions as to the handling and use of the battery 
shell in a11 respects be carricd out, and that eccess to the bat- 
teries shall be allowed ¢o the Company's inspector at all reason- 
able times; and the Company agroes tc renew eny deteriorated ole-~ 
mont of the battery for one-half tho list price of the complete 






certain Edison storage battery No.......,consisting 
Of,eeeeeC@lls Typecsevs> naving a rated capacity of 
vesessampere-hours, shall maintain at all times during 

a period of......years from eee 
192 , an efficiency of not less than. .....per cent, of the 
above rated capacity, provided that the instructions of 

the Edison Storage Battery Company, relating to the care 

and operation of the battery, are complied with and fol- 
‘lowed, and provided further that the Edison Storage Battery 

Company shall at all reasonable times be allowed access to 
the battery for testing and inspection. 

It is understood and agreed that the terms of this 
guarantee will be comphied with by the Edison Storage Bat« 

, tery Company replacing the defective battery with a new 

battery of equal rated capacity. 

It is further understood and agreed that in the event 
of such replacement the purchaser shall pay to the Edison 
Storage Battery Company a pro rata amount equal to the 
proportion which the service obtained from the original 
battery bears to the full term Of. .seeeeyears covered by 

this guarantee, 



Mr. BKcison vishes to heve »a report made on the Battery 
Compeny mede by Mr. Lybrend es of April 50, 1910, and Lybrand has 
been directed to make this report. 

As soon as the report ie received, call a meeting of 
the Battery Company stockholders and put the report beforo them. 

The Battery Company owes Mr. Edison in the neighborhood 
of $1,300,000, secured by promisry notes. Edison proposes either 

(1) That the company's indebt .edness to him be covered 
by new notes falling due in two years, or . 

(2) That the capital stock of the Compeny be increased 
to $2,500,000. This would mean an increase of $1,500,000, and he 
would accept stock at par in payment for his claim. This would 
wipe out this large debt of the Company and would leave upwards 
of $100,000 in stock, which could be sold to provide cash. 
Although Mr. Edison controls 75% or more of the stock, he wents 
to have the minority stockholders perfectly satisfied in this 
matter and wishes to leave to them if possible the decision as 
to which course to adopt. 


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\ ei The ossential purpose of the proscnt meeting is to dis- 

cuss ways end meens for the liquidation of Mr. Edison 's account 
ageinet the Edison Storage Battery Compeny and to agree upon a 
plan for doing so- 

liv. Héison personally controls moxve then 75% of the 
capital shook of the company ond could therefore decide tho ques~ 
tion himsel® end his decision in the mottox could be quostioned 

only in case of fraud. Hevertheless, he dosives to have the 

‘situation leid bofore oll of the stockholders in order that he 

mey have tho bono?it of theiy advice oven though in justice to 
himself? he may not bo eble to agree with their views. Tho 
stockholdexs may, however, bo veminded of the Lact that all of 
tho outside stock, omounting to 25% of the totel, was seoneniea 
by iy. Edison as a bonus in connection with the sale of the bonds 
of the company and docs not represent moncy invostod, at least 
by the original outside gtockholdors. So Yar as the bonds off 
the Compeny are coricorned, Imowing as we do the porfected condi- 
tion of tho Edison battery and tho groat domand 1t must inevitebly 
havo, thore is no roason for the slightoot uneasiness or doubt as 
to the valuo of these socuritios. 

The experimental developmont of the Edison Storage 
Battory involved such enormous difficulties that if Ur. Hdison 
nod had any idee as to their extont he probably would not heave 
undertaken tho work. When the original bond issue was made, by 
which a cash capital of $500,000 was provided, Mr. Edison folt 
confident that that cepital would be sufficient to conduct all 

experiments and put the bettery on the markt as a commercisl 
proposition. It is not necossary to refor to the oxtent of 
those experiments oxcept to say that thoy numbored many thou- 
sands. As is well Imowm, the first form of battery that was put. 
on tho market developed defects which were not anticipated, and, 
elthough thet battery was superior to eny compoting device, it did no! 
not realize Mr. Edison's expectations, and it was therefore with- 
dravm and its menufaeture stonped, excopt to the extent of mak- 
ing replacements. Hollowing the withdrawal of the first tyne of 
battery from the meriket, a sreeter muanber of experiments vere 
made, resulting in the production of the present perfected Edison 
Battery, which hes nov been manufactured and sola for ebout 2 

year ene which hes more then veelisged My. Eé¢ison's most ardent 
hopes. whe intyodnetion of the new bites has no doubt beon 
somewhat affected by the unfortunate experionce with the. cerlicr 
type; and by the very vigorous ond in some cases questionable 
methods of the Jenad Battery pooplo to prevent its introduction. 
Furthermore, most of tha electric vehicles made in this count=y 
were especially designed for lead battories and required modi+ 
fications to fit’ them most effectively for Raison potteries; 
and, finally, wo found that many of the vehicle momufacturers 
were bound by contrects to uso lood betteries only, but these 
contracts are now oxpiring and nono, we believe, runs beyond 
the prosent year. I an gicd to say, however, that the demand 
for the now battory is slowly inereesing, electric vohicile mani 
facturers ond other users are recognizing its morits end cre 
designing thoir present modelo for its use. At the present 
timo the output of the factory is equivalent: to about 160 A-4 
cclls por day, o11 of which ere being sold, and the interest 

Which is belng menifestod on all sides in the battery convinces 
us thet the demand will very largely inercase within a short time. 

Even at the rete of 150 A-4 cells per day, the Leetory is almost 

-eblo to pey its operating and solling expences, including the cost 

of menufecture, so thet with an inereace in tho buginces profiteble 
results may be expectert. 

At the presont tine, theretecre, the situotion of the 
Edison Storage Battery Company is thot it is in possession of a 
perfected storage bettoxy with all the petconts thereon, with 

Seeret processes et its command and with a ‘tremendous oxperience 

' that hes been acquirea during the past nino years together eiso 

with a plont Lully equipped to turn out the batterics at oa suffi- 
cient rato to mnko the business o profitable one es soon ag the 
donend slightly increases. 468 to the ultimato snosees of the 
enterprise woe do not entertain the Sli’ tent doubt. 

The esspense in connection with the development of the 
porfectod battery wo to the present point, including exporiments 
and plont,with ite cauipment and for carrying on the businoss 
Since the introduction of the bottery ebowt 2 yoar ago, has beon 
upwards of 22,500,000, && appeers from tho report of Messrs. 
tybrand, Ross Bros. & Montgomery, cortifiod public’ eccountants, 
for the your onding Fobruary 28, 1910. On that date the Edison 
Storego Battery Company owed ir. Raison $1,544,745.29 on open. 
eccount for money advanced by My. Eéison to carry the enterprise 
on and ovontually to realize something for the vtockholders. 
Since that dete the amount hes incronsed somewhat, so thet on 
Junc 30, 1910, with intorost, 1+ was $1,998,276.86. the 
question now for consideration is, how shall this account be 

liquidated? Two plens hove beon suggestod tontatively by Mr. 

Edison, eithor one of which ho is willins bo accopt. 
{1) @he Company might sive interest boaring notes to 
Mr. Edison for the amount of the’ indobtodness, payable in two or 

threo years Prom date, 
(2) The eapitel stock of the Comony mips be incronged 

acditional issue of 32,500,000 and his debt liqaideted Dy 

Wa og 
Ne a fy paying stock at ver. 

Wo put those plans before the stockholders in ordor 
7 Pp 

that they mey be discussed by then. 
Respectully submitted, 

FID/IvwW Vico-Presi dent. 

May 10, 1910. 

ie. George fT. Dyer, 
Navy Department, 

Washington, D. C. 
My dear Goorge: 

iy. Edison hes requestod me to find out.the names 
of the concerns in this country who manufacture submarine boets. 
Have you any records. in the YVavy Derertment thet would give this 
information. If so, I will be very much obliged if you will 

make a list of these concerns for me. 





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DP LG) yo 
hii boil May 10, 1910. 

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Edison Labratory, 
Menlo Park, New Jersey. 

Gent lemen:— 

Referring to the article by Walter MAY 13 910 
E, Holland in the April 28th edition of the hia Hy 
"Electrical World", we beg to inquire if you 
are now prepared to manufacture or furnish 
Storage Batteries for Industrial Locomotive 
purposes. If so, kindly advise if you could 
have a representative call within the near future. 

Yours truly, 



Purchasing Agent. 


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INO. I. B. OORINLL, Vicz-Pren, & Taran, OSOAR B. SMITH, Ja., Seoerarny 
MORRISTOWN, N. J, May 17th 1910. ; L£ 
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‘.. Ned 
Mr. Thomas A. Edison, see Untra w ne 
Orange, Go hee +s afer 
New Jorsey. f 
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Dear Sir: C fr Tins ag i Se be £ 

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Our local traction company now have a franchis through rae 

one of the main stroets of Morristown ending at the o oat Park " ens ie 
the center of the town. They will soon make apeiaetien for. Vie 

mission to lay their tracks around the park and so onf{to 2 thetest tT 
a. Jeu be al pie 

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in ridding the park and some of the main strost# lof pol oe it is’ 


road station. As the town has succeeded after maby Was! 
cra aed 

ew trt, erry 
the park without the use of poles, and we beg Boone ro the ae oe 
a & 

demonstration of your storage battery has . provedpracticable for 

ce pence. 
very much desired that the company shall operate their sah oraf nd fe L . 

this purpose and what the cost of installing a car with such ar- 
rangement would be. 

Thanking you for your kindnoss and any exprossion of 

Very tr yo ; ' 
cé-. resident. 

opinion or suggestion, we are 


ERIE Raitroap Company 

New Yonrk, SusQuruanna any WesTern Rarnnoa 
ND a D Co. TUR Sew Janse Yr AN 
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Own ‘Disa PRost FULTON BuILpING, HUDSON Terwiwar 

Futon St. Sunway STarTion 50 OnuRcH STREET, . 
Coyr.anntr St. "LL" Srariong : A CORNER FULTON. 
NEw Yori 


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Mr. Thos. A, saison, ote e 
Yalley Road, wa® 

west Orange, Ned. 


Dear Sir:- 

Mr. Underwood has deteiled to me your conversa- 
tion With him with rererence to your storage battery propos- 
ition. He is very much interested in it, and I also feel 
a considerable interest in it and wish that your hopes may 
be realized. I shall be very glad to go over with a 
suitable representative and Look at it on any day it is 
convenient for you. Any day next week will be satisfactory 

to me. 

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May 28th, 1910, 
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Mr. Thos. A. Edison, 

Llewellyn Park, Ce, ae Oe CY Fs oil 

Orange, Nwd. ‘ 
erate - 

My Dear Mr. Edison:- : Cea 

On my return home to-day I find your 
letter of May 23rd, and have noted the contents. 

Replying to the suggestion that I might 
be too 014 to take up such a subject, I have only to 
say that if an old fellow like you can invent or pro- 
duce a battery, I guess I would be in the running if 
I undertook to sell it. However, I would be barred 
from attempting to become interested in it, since I 
am already very largely interested in the best lead 
battery ever made, and it is my purpose to give the 
energy necessary to make this a success before I would 
tackle any new proposition. 

Do you remember in one of our talks in 
the long ago at old 65 Fifth Avenue, when I asked you 
your opinion of the storage battery you replied that 
you did not mow much about it, but that you never hed 
"much luck with wet electricity". That suggestion had 
the effect to keep me out of wet electricity for a great 
many years, but now that I am in it and from your letter 
I find that you, too, are dabbling in "wet" electricity, 
the incident struck me as a little funny. 

IT am going to accept your invitation to 
come over and look at your battery and have you, person- 
ally, tell me the story of its possibilities, but the 
real purpose of my visit will be to see and talk with 
you. Do you expect to be at the works for any length 
of time, or will you be scurrying away to some seashore 
or mountain resort ? I am going to make this trip over 
there very soon, that is, within the next two or three 
weeks, and if you are not going to be on the job your- 
self, advise me, and I will postpone the trip until such 
time as I will be sure to meet you. 

Hoping that your health and behayjor ea 
good as that of myself, I remain, 

Very truly yours, ( ie SS 
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SANTA BARBARA, GHIH., MEX, VELARDENA, 0G0, MEX, Meigrdotin » Purengo.. es 
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Edison Storage Battery Gp., © JUN > 1g 

104 Lakeside Ay@., See i 
Orange, N. Tey Hobe de 

T have recently beon advised that you magutpe typ 6 pkapage 
battery suitable to be used for supplying current to an alagtrig tego- 
motive. We have @ narrow guage railroad about 20 miles long, opera- 
ting over 3-1/2% grade at this plant, and if it is feasible to operate 

a locomotive supplied by storage battery mounted on the locomotive, we 

should prefer considering this type of Haulage aqitipment rather than 

the stoam locomotive. We haul about 14 ompty cars up this grade, 
edbhi bY WaLBHing abort 22,700 1bs. We use 40 lb. rails on a 36" 


Yours very traly, 

Cnr Od. 

A’Gtotant Manager, 

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George: J Kittredge; 

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Dear Sir: 


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from cur President, ur. i. CO. Brown, 
and myself have been instructed to 
make a report us to the merits of the storage 
developed by you. 

name a dey, probably the latter part of next 
for you to see us? 

Yours truly, 

Ze ee 

Chief Engineer. 

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Dear Mr. winters 
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A Ge ot One. 

Permit me 
favor of the 31st timo , We, ave no Boison a service, on 

acadd & ual Rae eae 
the New Jersey side of the North River; 4 p voen 
Gleam Le Blown. 2. 
under consideration A avn pas of the 1 a g saetide 
ths ben eu cng.) 
plants in Jersey ‘City. is But mee availablé a large 
Wea Canecd Ci onl, war, 2h G4 

supply such as that “fo tnd youlzeter. a ss V slg : 

If you will kindly give me some furthér Rae “ody 
I shall be glad to submit the matter to our Vice ae, 
Mr. N. F. Brady. As you know, Mr. Bradf\is greatly 
interested in anything that concerns Mr Bender 0" 
am sure he will be glad to make eyere |personal effort 
carry out Mr. Edison's wishes. 

I am sailing for Europe next Thursday - the 9th - 
ena would therefore very much like to get this information 
@8 s00n as may be convenient. 

Truly yours, 
Irvtax Witharne 

AW/BR General. Inspector. 


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understand these reports if you would insluda the eplis under the 
headings “Orders received to-day", "Orders vooelved thie nonth 
to date", "Unfilled orders", "Average shipments to date", 
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ures reduced to equivalent of A-4 cells. Also advine me concorn= 
ing the cells on unfilled orders. Cen you include somewhere on 
tho report the cells thet ore ordered with definite shipping in- 

structions, to distinguish thom from orders that can be asuneelled? 
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Thomas A. Edison, Esq., Fy 00 
Orange, NJ. JN L 
My Dear Edison. 

I received from my friend Merz an 
inquiry as to the Edison storage battery, and have 
sent him a letter, dated the l4th, copy of which I 
enclose you. Would you let me have your personal 
criticisms, in your own hand writing, of my letter 

to Herz? 

Yours truly 



June 14th, 1910, 

Charles H. Merz, Us8q., 

C/o Messrs. Herz and McLellan, 
28 Victoria Street, 
Westminster, London, S. VW. 

Dear Mr. Merg:- 

; I have your letter of June 3rd, relative 
to the Edison Storage Batteries, Mr. Edison is undoubtedly 
going ahead very energetically in the manufacture of batteries 
and I hear much that would indicate that the battery promises 
very well. I am not informed as to just what progress is 
being made in the development of various types of batteries, 
but apparently the most progress has been made in developing 
those suitable for use with electric vehicles. 

The most concrete information I have is some obtained 
from six months experience with two batteries used in operating 
light traffic wagons for this Company. These wagons have been 
in daily use. The batteries each consist of 70 cells at 1,2 
volts each, The entire battery weighs 1200 pounds. 

The lead batteries which we are using in other 
vehicles, doing the same work, consist of 42 cells, each 
Giving two volts. They weigh 1600 pounds. ‘The output of the 
lead battery is 140 ampere hours, and that of the Edison 225 
ampere hours. At present the batteries are very expensive. 
The price of the Edison Battery is approximately $1400. or 
$1400.00 whereas that of the lead battery is about $350.00. 

We estimate the life of a lead battery at approximately three 
years, although during this time it was necessary to renew all 
of the positive, «nd some of the negative plates, so that the 
repuirs during this period amount to nearly the first cost of 
the battery, or an expenditure of, say, $700.00 in all for the 
battery, first cost and up-keep, during three years, On the 
other hand, my people think from wll indications, from the six 
months use, that the life of the Edison Battery will be very 
long and thet the repuirs would be probably lower than in the 
cuse of the lead batteries, 

My people report one performance which may interest ' 
you, where an Edison Battery went without being charged for : 
three days, giving out 287 ampere hours and giving a vehicle 
mileage of 67 miles, on a wagon where the use of electricity was 
not particularly efficient. It probably would have gone as high 
as 100 miles on some of our most efficient wagons, 

As to the performance of electric vehicles, I am 
sending you under separate cover a reprint from one of the 
January issues of the "World and Engineer," the information 
contained in which was obtained from traffic wagons operated by 
this company. 

Yours truly 
(Signed) Samuel Insull, President, 

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Since returning to the office I have looked over mdre 

Dear Sir: 

carefully your letter of June 14th to the factory and find that 
you mention that the car mounted on 33" wheels will have an ap- 
proximate speed of 350 RPM, whereas in talking with you last Fri- 
day it was my impression that you advised that the car would trav- 
el at the rate of 50 miles an hour at times which woulda bring the 
chain somewhat above 500 RPM. I probably was wrong in my under- 
standing but before Proceeding with further details I woulda like 
to be advised more definitely as to this point and also whether 
larger sized wheels on the car can be considered. 
Very truly yours, 

CWT : M7 CLO Wet ha» 

Lelifihone oe Cow Mabie AO , Cable hederass Ghrayolec 

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Of course for such work as I outl4ned on the Southern 

Orange, UW. J. FE 
My dear Edison: 

I have yours of June 16th. 

Pacific, which requires a continuous heavy draw bar pull for 
hours in succession, nothing but direct supply could fulfill 
the extremely arduous conditions, but the possible applica- 
tion which I had in mind which ought to be studied is the 

A locomotive deriving its supply primarily from 
working conductors, say the third rail, but carrying a high 
discharge battery of fair capacity and moderate weight, so 
that it could move over the tracks in freight yards and the 
complicated lay-out of a terminal station on battery power 
alone, the battery to be charged directly from the third rail 
whenever standing on any convenient siding; the battery also 
to float upon the line when running, principally supplying 
the motors because of drop in track potential yhenever starting 
at any distance from a sub-station, then dividing with the line, 
then being charged from the line whenever the track potential 

rose above the critical point. 

Thos. A. Edison -- #2. 

The special work in terminals and yards is costly, 
no matter whether overhead or third rail, but actual power 
used is moderate. It is quite possible that here may be an 
important field, but it depends, of course, largely upon 
the size and cost of batteries. The use proposed would 
probably increase the load factor of sub-stations, as well 
as reduce the investment there. 

Very truly yours, 

o—osaa Rees chy eee { 



Department of Coumerce and Labar T. C. MARTIN 
Washington NEW YORK Ne Ys 

June 25, 1910. 

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T. A. Edison, Esquiros, (\\ / 

Edison Laboratorios, 
N. J. 
Dear Mr. Edison: 

The U. S. Bureau of the Oensus has just issued the 
Streot and Electric Railway Report of 1907, embodying data for the 
whole country of that year; while the text brings the development 
of the art and industry down to 1909, I haye asked the office 
to forward you a personal copy direct, which I trust you will have 
receivad. Owing to my own share in this work, I am naturally 
interested in the issuance of the report, and shall be greatly 
obliged to receive from you anything that suggests itself to you 
in the way of remark, comment, or oritioiam that would be helpful 
to the office or myself in handling the data for 1912, 

Bolieve me, : 
Yours truly, 

OC hat 

Expert Special Apgont. 

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Frank L. Dyer, Eso., 

New York, 30th June, 1910. 

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New Jersey. 
Dear Sir : 

We are sending you herewith reports on our 
work which we have recently done for the Edison Storage 
Battery Company. 

As mentioned to you in our telephone con= 
versation it was our understanding that prices to be placed 
on all. property and plant items were to be at their present 
value, but we found that all items of real estate, build=- 
ings, machinery, and equipment have been priced at origi- 
nal cost, As we understood that all losses from op- 
eration up to 28th February, 1910 were to be carried as a 
Lemporary asset which might, at some future time, be cap= 
italized, it would seem that the omission of depreciation 
of machinery is defeating that purpose as it would only 

mean that, at some future time, the machinery and eouip= 

FLD. 2- 
ment would have to be depreciated and charged against the 
earnings of the coming years, You will notice in our 
report that we have thrown all the losses from operations 
and experimenting, &c., into the ‘adjustment account’ which 
has been carried to the balance sheet as an asset, accom- 
‘ panied by an appropriate note, 

We would like very much to have your views on 
the matter of depreciation, . 

Very truly yours, 

WB/B Carnal Oferel bor Thereby 


' Wew York Uity, June 30,4920 
Mt, Thomas A. Edison, z ; 
West Orange, N.J 

Hy dear Mr. EBdison,- 

I have just returned from a most interesting trip to 
Annapolis wnere I made a series of tests of submarines for the 
purpose of adapting inv Beso arer Tachometer, now adopted by 
the U.S. Navys 

I took down with me, Mr, Cosgrave, Editor of Every- 
body's Magazine, Wr Dinwhddda, War Correspondent for the Herald 
and World, Mr. Johnston of the New York Herald, and several 
other interesting gentlemen, 

We engaged in submersion tests as far down as 90 
fest, torpedo practice, etc, 

» Cette I am vary much interested in this type of vessel for 

pest defence work, and considerable publicity is to be given 
this subject very shortly by the newspaper men J took down. 

I was struck with the greatest danger now existing in © 
submarine work, and which can be entiraly ovbiated by your 
battery. fhe "majority of accidents to submarines thus far have 
been due to collision and breakage of some part, thereby admitting 
salt water. Riven a ginall volume of salt water gets busy with 
the acid in the storage battaries. that are only covered over by | 
a flimsy flooring, and asphyxiation of the entire crauw,is 
naturally the result, 

The submarine Officers state that running on the 
surface with hatches open is far more dangerous than diving, 
because of the liability of shipping asea, i 


I am thoroughly posted in this submarine, , and it 
eccurred to me that I could be of some service to you in regard 
to the adapting of your hattery Which would, of courte, over= 
come danger from gas, 

In divingw, the buat goes down by the head or 
astern over 14 degrees, the electroltg(Z-is now spilled from the 
batteries, amt ap it is a very difficult’ matter to kéep the boat 
on “an aven keel and unddér water when submerged or coming up, 

The doat I was on tilted 12 degrees before we could stop here 

Mr, Raison * 2 June 20,1910 

, tte 
There ‘is always some bilge water gt: the keel ,whon 
the acid slops over or a jar ROIS beet nee? is trouble PDQ. 

If you would like to have! run over to discuss this 
matter with you, kindly drop me a line, , 

A large number of subaaries are going to be built 
very shortly, and I think there is a splendid Lield open hore 

“for your batteries, 


Yours sincerely, 


In Reply Refer to 


New Yor Orricr, 30 Crourcy Srrerr 
June 30, 1910. 


li. i. BF. Willer, Secretary, Wye Ar 
Thomas A. Hdison Laboratory, 

Orange, it. J. 

Dear Gir: 

Complying with your requost of June 29th, I am sending 
you wider senarate cover a file of bulletins covering various 
railway motors manufactured by this Company, also control equip- 
ment. These bulletins give general description of the various 
size motors as well as sonoral dimensions. 

I trust that the bulletins I an sendine you will give 
you all the information you desire. If we can supply you with 

any further information, however, kindly call won us. 

Yours very truly, 


In Reply Refer to 


New York Orrice, 80 Cuurcy Strerr 

July 1, 1910. 

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Mr. Thomas A. Edison, Wy v 
Orange, New Jersey. 

Dear Sir: 

In reference to your recent inquiry as regards the equip- 
ment for storage battery locomotive for the Brie Railroad, would 
advises that wa give below a short summary of data on vhich to base 
the approximate size of battery required: 

The service outlined we believe is too severe for any 
type of equipment, as the stops are too frequent and the schedule 
speed too high. We have, therefore, estimated woon makxine a sche- 
dule speed of 27 1.P.H. with 7 stops in the 26 miles; this is about 
equivalent to making the run in one how instead of 52 minutes, at 
the same time making fewer atons. If 1” stops are made the schedule 
speed will be about 20 11.P.H. 

In order to favor the proposition as much as nossible, we 
are estimating upon an equipment much smaller than would be furnished 
with a 40 ton electric locomotive, since it will be necessary to 
charge the batteries at each end of the line, which will allow the 
motors time to cool off. ‘the voltage of the battery proposed is not 
mentioned but we have assumed that it will be 500 volts. 

Approximate speed time energy curve eiving speed, amperes 
and distance is attached and shows the demend upon the battery. The 
weight of the battery asswned in making these calculations has been 
roughly estimated between 7 and 10 tons. 

We have also estimted that a bassage car capable of sup- 
porting this woight and holding the prower number of cells will 
weight approximately 40 tons, including trucks, body and electrical 
equipment less storage battory and battery accessories. 

A brief swmary follows: 

Locomotive proposed for Erie Railroad. 
Length of road 26 miles. 
Average grade Level. 
Averace leneth of run 5.75 miles. 
Duration of stops - each 50 sec. 
Schedule speed pronosed 27 MP. 
Maximum speed with 100 
tons trailing load * 40 MPs. 


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Maximum treiling load 100 tons 
Avproximate weicht of locomotive ; 
exclusive of battery - 40 tons 
Watt hours per ton mile 36 
Munber of motors per locomotive. 4 

H.P. rating of motors, each 100 
Type of control Tywe li 

Avrrox. woight of motors & control 21,000 lbs. 

You may prefer using 250 V. motors. - The speed time 
energy curve will remain the same as shown, xcept that the cur- 
rent values will be twice as great. We have no standard 250 Vv. 
motor which would be satisfactory for this work and we believe 
that there will be some difficulty in providing a control which 
will satisfactorily handle 3,000 arms: without being very ex- 
ponsive and considerably heavier than the 500 V. control. 

These figures are submitted as a preliminary estimate 
for your consideration and susrestions. 

The cost of a car to carry your battery and the necessary 
equipment to porform the above service, wo estimate you should be 
able to buy for Approximately ——-- awn nnn 2, 000. 

Ow Znrineers have given this batvery locomotive quite 
alittle study and have suscested that an electric locomotive 
could be built for the service required which would contain only 
the motors and control equipment, the same as the present type of 
electric locomotive, and that 2 small trailer cer could ve used to 
carry the battery. By this method, the locomotive could be kent 
in service practically all the time by uncoupling the trailer at 
the end of a mn and coupling on a trailer with batteries fully 
charged. : 

If you care to go into the details of equipment of the 
above mentioned service.fwther, we would be glad to arrange to 

have one of our engineers visit your works and go over these calcu- 
lations with you. . 

Yows very truly, 




Adouws Lethe af, ssong § faa) 

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Mrelers , 

July 11, 1910. 

Thomas A. Edison, Hsq., 

Dear Sir: . 

I have carefully consi derea the quest ion esked me 
as to whether it would be practicable to permit the Jeffrey oe 
Ma nufaoturing Company to market an industrial locomotive \ 
equipped with your batteries under the name "Jeffrey-Edison 
Locomotive”. I think it would be most unwise for you to. 
permit this use of your name, because in @ measure it would 
nullify all of our offorts made in the past to prevent the 
use of your name by others. No doubt if your consent in this 
case was given, there would be many other roquests from people 
who use our producta for permission to use your name, and it 
would be difficult to adequately explain why the request, 4f ) 
granted in one case, should not be granted in all capes. The 
rule thet has been adopted not to permit your name to be used 
in connestion with any enterprise except thoge which you cone 
trol and for which you feel a personal responsibility, is 8 

safe one to follow, and I think you would be meKing a great 

. mistake if you departed from that rule. 

- Yours very truly, \ 


_ ~‘RLD/ARK, 

Part - Sulina aed, 



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New York city, naa a Aor 

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Mr. Thomas A. Edison f 
West Orange, Nd. Poe 
My dear Mr. Edison,- ly 

As a result of the Edison Rattery talk I gave the 
Officers of the First Submarine Division in Annapolis, on June 
28tn, followed un by several letters from me to the proper 
Washington Officials, the Navy Department has ordered Lieut. 
McNair, in command of the First Division of Submarine Propeller, 
Annapolis, Md., to proceed to New York on Friday afternoon. 

I quote his letter in detail. 

"Cuttlefish, Annapolis, July 9,1910. 
Dear Hutch,- 
Have just come from the Department, 
Orders will be issued this week for me to 
proceed to New York and study possibilities 
of Edison Battery for Submarine work. Am 
leaving for Solomon's Island Pautuxent 
River in half an hour for torpedo practice, 
and return here Friday noon. Will try to catch 
the Congressional Limited, leaving Baltimore 
at 5 pem. 

I therefore wish to make an appointment to take McNair 
over to your Laboratory Saturday morning, 

He is a bright young man, thoroughly posted on submarine 
work, and quite an expert in lead batteries, 

; I trust that, as a result of my strenuous activity in 
HRdison Battery nehalf, I will succeed in landing them in every 
Cepae ment of the Army and Navy in which storage batteries are 

I have already started the ball rolling, 

Yours si 1; 

Cather, nabroe 
Tn Reply Refer to 

New York Orricr, 30 Cuurcy Strerr 
duly 14, 1910, 

iy. Thomas A. Edison, b= 

Oranse, WN. d. 

I would ac! ee ngmet your letter o %. Ord 

12th in reference to battery locompt\ive for Erle@tailrond De Ay a 

service. Caw wll pe 

There is no question but what this service can be AG 
performed with two smeller cars and eight motors instead a a 
large car with fow motors, the principal auestion, on ‘30 ol 
will be which is the most economical. 
If you would live to disenss the Mid 

of this proposition, I will be glad to arrango to have on Lf 
our engineers from Schenectady co over this matter with you. 

Yours very truly, 



In Reply Refer to 


New Yorx Orricr, 80 Cuurcn Srrerr 

July 14, 1910, 

Lr. H. Y. Miller, Secretary, 
Thomas A. Edison Laboratory, 
Oranma, We. de 

Dear Sir: 

I ackmowledsa receipt of yow letter of July 9th 
asking for dimensions, etc-, of clectric driven air compressors 
as well as contactor boxes, rheostats, ote. I find it necossary 
to refer to our Schenectady office for this informtion and will 

forward same to you at tho earliest possible date. 
Yours very truly, 

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ew York Uity, July 19,1910, 

Nr. Thomas A, dison 

West Orange, Nod, 


r. Wdison,+ 

Fnclosed herewith data on the @dison Battery, as 
applied to sUubuurines, whieh I have Worked onl as a result of the 
conference, vesterday, 

Tt wouldseem that the Proper conbination vould be an 
engine of one~nalf the weleht, gviasolene or alcohol, preferably 
the latter, of one-half bheg capacity, and an Edison Rattery of 
1713 KW iirs., ¢ 

A cruising radins of 540 knots would be available, 
This, of course, aupivsing tat one-half the present gasolene 
tank canucity would furnish gasolone for 125 fiep. engine for 
SO hoars, 

J have no data at the moment on the consump tio? of 
&«s80lane per hip. honr of large marine engines, but I will call 
MeNalrts attention te this and let him alter this figure if 

Brom present indications, T think we will have liitle 

. ’ 
aitficulty “in landing the Rdison Battery on @1ll submarines in 
tnis Nave, 

Yours sincerely, 



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TELEPHONE Cenrrar{ ed Ss 
. Chicago, July 20, 1910. % 
Thomas A. Edison, Esq., / 
Orange, N. J. ae’? 4 
Dear Sir : Gu, “@ 

1, © 
We have been referred to you by Mr. Lucien Wheatly a, 

and W. W. Wheatly of Charleston, Ill., who desire to rent 

space in one of our buildings for the purpose of promoting the 

sale of Edison Storage Batteries. Any information you may 

feel at liberty to give as to their general character and finan- 

cial responsibility will be considered strictly confidential : 
end will be greatly appreciated by us. i 

Yours very truly, 
Estate W772 Ze rs a 

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July 26th. 1910. 

Mr. Geo. Meister, 

Please note the enclosed letter with Mr.Edison's 
remarks. Will you kindly have these remarks written on Mr. 
Edison's letter-head. 

LIN Ferund - \ewleboaarn 


we a York Uity, July a 
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Mr. Thomas A. Edison 

West Orange, NJ. 2 
My dear Mr. rdison,- 

Referring to the data I mailed you CO 

In the middle of the third page, yowf will fin i 
that I stated there is a 20% loss between charging and 
discharging of Edison Battery, 

I understand the loss is approximately 40%, This 
works out that it would take 32 hours to charge the battery 
with the 75 KW charging plant. 

I assume this is correct. If it is not » kindly 

advise me, 

Yours sincerely, 

Stora sem Settee) - Testing 

New Yo ric Ui ty, July 25, 1910, 
Mr. Thomas ice Rdison _ : 

West Orange, Ned. /é C 
My dear Mr, Rdisonj- |” 

When Mr, Hartford received the storage batteries I sold. 
‘him for you, being impattént to put them to work in the ahsence 
of the awiéeh board which has not yet been received, ne connected 
all cells in series and threw them on to his generator, © The ; 
boltage of the batteries was greater than that of the gencrator, 
causing reversal of polatity in the generator and a few fire works 
from tne switch board, . The fuse blew all right, but bless my soul, 
if he did not do the same thing again a couple of days later, pute 
. ting the polarity of the generator back where .it belonged, so he 
is right where he began, This goes to show that althouth your 
battery is pretty well fool-proof, you certainly need in conneot- 
ion therewith a Selective Charging Switch which will prevent the 
positive of the line from being connected to the negative of the 
batteries, and which will also protect against ‘discharge of the 
batteries through the armature of the generator, or thru the 
laws, motors etc., on the circuit if the steam pngine or 'gapolene 
engine Lies down.” 

I am enclosing herewith aleten aging in Bees form, 
such a protection switch; which embodies the following features, 

First: The charging circvit can be connected to the terminals 
of the veh: vehicle or switch board irrespect ve of polarity. 

Second: The battery can be connootad to the terminals of the. 
charging switch trrespective of polarity : F 

third: When the current comes on the charging line, the 
fields—vf—the little motor:are energized being connected in par- 
allel on the line, ‘This causes-the attraction of the pon Sie 
which chases the. cireuit from the battery through the armature of 
the ‘motor. ‘The -motor tien rotates the proper direction to, throw 
. &hdouble pole double throw, switch in the prop er: @irection ‘to give 
you plus¢the line to. Phus the battery. - ceo 
If the current goes off a. double spring tanator. device 
on ‘the ‘shaft ' of the motor will ‘automatically ‘restore the switch to 
poet on midway.’ ‘between the contact idrabag a Shaneby* eee the 

the fields of Saks denewetoe being. dead, tne neanstte 
* switch will gQopen,. thereby ' opening the” otiroult ;from She battere 
-des-into the: armatures - ‘of the motors * «> 

If: the current comes on reversed, the device wotld au-.. 
tomatically selvet polarity and operate. accordingly. 

‘peferring £0: the ‘Diagrant: 

- vontrorton 1s 

Connects on 4: i - 

ae sockets. | 

. fies, “which.T, tut 

T.Adison 2 July 25,1910 | a 

_A and B are the line terminals. 

G | and D the Dae tery terminalia. 

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‘Suppowe' A ap sie. a Co ‘is’ luce The fields. of the 
motor are énergized, switch 1 (is closed,.am- the: motor rotates 
in a contra-clockwise ‘direction: until. knives’, H-F° of ‘double 
pole,. double. throw-switch\a're \forced into. connection. with blades 
G-H. The current ‘then flows \over wire Ip Bele GnB~ 49 5-C~ through 

the battery = Ds6-7 ToH-F-8-9 aoe 



‘ siphose oe “4s ‘minus and. CG 4s ‘plus’ * Rotation. of 
the armature’ in’ clock-wise direction, current then flowing. from 

‘BeQ- 8=FoInde5-US bheenin the, battery: - /D=6-7 [Ke Be2-1-A,, 



If A ty plus” ‘and’ Cc is minus: Rotation. of “+a. arna- 

eae clockwise. “Current flows from’ A-I- 2-E-K+7=6-D-= through the 
. hat tery! > U5 *A~JHF=829=B' , 


“lf “A “Fs. minus - “and . oC is amines Rotation: of the ‘motor 

Acoutnane Wounen, “Current flows from BePOGePriie7= 6=-D- through 

the battery “ (UnAnB2Ge Ee Palak, 

Team designing, this. switeh ; up: inte: four, pines, ta earry 
15- 60- 90° and - 120 BInperes. respectively. 

2 oe axpect -t bo, use the motor T-am ising ‘on my eiasan horn, 
wound for the proper, resist ance, © On the end ofthe motor, I 

will -locate the switch términals and: eae 80° ee the: entire” 

apparatus wld be omali and compact. BEC eM GCE a, 
eon BEE “tnd pi Tiwi: make ‘the. switen. 46, cnabeees ini oL1,, The. 
whole ‘thing. ‘wi12. bé, very. compact,. and could: ba: installed, in’ an * 

outrof=thanway corner, of, electrical, yenicless cee 

: With. ignition tat tery: a ‘Wab. ti uring: ‘on ‘altashing athect- 

dy. to. the ocket, “but, ‘upan second thought, concluded. this, would: 

not ‘ao, as ten. canperes. wourd. es ‘too, much * THOj. nut: ‘Shrough" ordinary, : 
4 oy 4. 
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bry foe 

are’ ag6 Tt dadiensa, up an” ‘ele olytic. Poe 
Gan be used to: good d vantage “ Lith your teni- 
tion batteries Ate ‘adesigned.’’ As! goon. ‘as"T ‘have a few: ymqments., I ; 

Sev oak : 

ees! ‘Look over: at. ‘and - ‘send. you gone ‘data, : 

Me's daieay atitomobiliet. fis up: aga sine ‘the aliernating 

scan prepooitien, and. AL” née has “gomet ning invhis baTAge which: 

itincheeesies : Aechert : ‘ ee ee er ee Teer | 


he can use to charge. gis’ storage: battery. from ‘the. alternating 
current circuit, I think a great many of, then will be sola, 

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New York Uity, July 23,1910. 

Mr. Thomas A, Edison 
West Orange, NJ, 

Dear Mr. Bdison,- 

Iam in receipt of a letter today from Lieut. HeNair, 
stating that he personally made a verbal and written report 
upon the Fdison Battezy to the Navy Department on the 24ty 
instant, and wnich-was very favoralW received. 

I think we will hear from that quarter very Saini: 

now : 

Yours sincerely, 






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In Reply Refer ta: 


Schenectady, N. Y., July 26th, 1910, 

Mr, Thomas A. Edison, 
Nest Orange, N. J. 
Dear Sir: (attention Kr. Herter) 

Since our conference in Mr. Edison's office on Monday 
morning, I have estimated the size of motors for the storage battery 
locomotive proposed for the Erie Railroad. Realizing the efforts you 
are making to eliminate as much weight as possible in the design of 
the mechanical part of the locomotive I have made a special effort to 
obtain for you the lightest possible equipment which we believe will be 
satisfactory for the work required. 

The motor we are recommending is a 250 volt motor which 
we intend to run at 500 volts, It is not ia: coimmtating pole motor , 
but the commtation will be very satisfactory since there will be no 
interruption in the supply of power such as there is with the trolley 
car caused by the trolley wheel partly leaving the wire when passing 
under. hangers. We believe you will find that a commtating pole railway 
motor will not be required, and we are therefore recommending the GE-53- 
250 volt non-comutating pole motor in order to avail ourselves of about 
500 pounds per motor saving in weight. This motor is also considerably 

cheaper than the GE~210 conmutating pole on which you have been estimating. 



Truck makers' diagram showing the outline of this motor, 
speed time energy curves and characteristic curves of the motor are 
enclosed. It is proposed to run these motors with ventilating covers. 
Also, if it 1s desired to increase the duty , it will be possible to 
devise some means of forced ventilation in order to keep the motor heat- 
ing within safe temperature limits. 

In regard to the control for this locomotive, we would 
recommend for the first locomotive one of our standard controllers which 
places the motors progressively in series and parellel with series resist- 
ance in circuit rather than to attempt to series parallel the batteries. 
In order to furnish you with a controller which would series parallel the 
battery we would have to develop a new controller which would take several 
months to deliver and would be very expensive, as new patterns, dies and 
drawings would be required. The details of the control could be better 
worked out after a trial of the equipment, and we cannot see such a great 
advantage between . series paralleling the batteries and series 
paralleling the motors using resistances in series ,such that the success 
or failure of the system as a whole will be much effected by the type of 
control employed. ‘We have had very little experience with controllers 
which series parallel the battery, but we heve used the series resistance 
method in a number of our storage battery propositions and find it worksve 
very well indeed. 

The weight of the GE-53 motor complete with gear, gear case, 
pinion and axle liners is about 2800 pounds. The controllers will weigh 
approximately 200 pounds a piece, with control wiring, rheostats, eta,, 

possibly 500 pounds. 



If you desire quotation on our standard controllers we 
will quote you on 2~ K-34 controllers suitable for controlling 4-— 75 

HP motors. 

Hoping that this information will be of assistance to you 

in laying out your locomotive, I am/ 

Yours very truly, 

Railway & Traction Eng. Dept. 








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M. R. Hutchison, Esq., 
50 Church Street, 
New York City. 
Dear Sir: 
Enclosed herewith find newspaper clipping 
regarding the submarine Cuttlefish, with Mr. Edison's 
notation thereon, as follows: 

"Why did the batteries run out? 

Kindly give the same the attention you deem 

necessary and oblige, 

Yours very truly, 

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Thomas A. Edison, Esq., 
The Laboratories, 
New York. 

Dear Sir, i POE 

Some months ago, We had the pleasure of correspond- 
ing with you respecting the Rritish representation of your 
BHlectric Accumulators, for which, unfortunately, we were too 
late, as you had already settled this business. 

As We are very desirous of handling some recent 
American invention, which in consequence,of our influence 
with the Government, and our connections with almost every 
branch of Comuercial.Engineering, We are peculiarly fitted 

to introduce, we feel that we are justified in reminding you 
of our exsistance. 

If you, or your friends, have anything Which you 

think might interest us,may we ask you to bear this firm in 

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Mr, Thomas A, Edison aan; 

. West Orange, NJ. 
Dear Mr, rdison,= 

I notice the account of the CUTTLEFISH accident, and 
neve taken up tne matter with the view of deternining as to 
just what did happen. 
not eae 
f can.sce how the running out of the batteries would - 
affect the ability of the bout to come in on her own power, a2 
she uses 4 gas engine exclusively on surface, 

‘the Chances are, something else happened and, for 
reagons which you and I can best understand, the plane’ wag laid 
on the bat teriase- 


Those submarine bova are dead crazy to got Raison 
Batteries on the bouts, and I think we can expect very ungatis- 
factory performances of the lead cells from now on, 

You casnot well blame them when thev are taking their 
lives in their hands every time they make a dive owing to the 
‘constant dread of chlorine gas, It is the only thing on the 
boat they do fear, : : 

I expect. to hear from tcNair shortly as to the real 
cause, and will Let you knows I an doing a food deal of inside 

work which I think “wild, prove productive of. results very shortly. 

If you receive any moce visita from the Hlectric Boat 
Co. or the Lake Company, suggest your betenhoning ma go that I 
can be present at the interview, 2 

I am now in position to talk intelligently on this 
motter huving made a study of it of late, and if there is anything 
you want to aHONs I think I’can furnish the informat ton promptly. 

I am at work on the Automatic Chatging Switch, and hope 
to have something you very soon. 

Yours sincerely, 


Batley « 

August 16th, 1910. 
Wwite be hoped Le ide orn 
Thomas A. Wdison, Esq., eee Y weet 
Edison Manufacturing Company, ace ; a 
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Orange, New Jersey. /f; iia 
Th Stl Ocemap treme 
Dear Sir:-— 

Lye newalicus Cran ben 

Since I saw you the shes er Yer Co atime 
sede Ge G ort 

lighting of buoys by wireless, I have been eres over your. 
aan clan 

remarks concerning the use of a souhd bo ecubine abit Ce efi 
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to Gy 

to the Klaxon horn as a fog signal, 

Snel nee about 

a year ago, I saw a man in the Netropolitan Lire Bij4iding who 
claimed to have invented the Klaxon horn, and we had some con 
versation about using it, but at that time there seemed no way 
to get the power without a good deal of complication, nor did he 
have any helpful suggestions regarding the acoustics of tne pro- 
per horn, etc. 

Your new storage battery seems to be a way out of the 
difficulty, and I believe that I will have no difficulty in 
getting the Government to take this up if we can produce a 
satisfactory sound producing device, but as you suggested, it 
must be of a type to wake the dead. At best, the present 
sound signals which are used, i.e., the bells and fog whistles 
actuated by wave compression on the old Courtney principle, do 
not carry very well, especially to windward or in a calm, 

Now, when a vessel is on a lee shore, a device that does not 

carry to windward is almost useless. Some of the worst fogs 

ils RS Oe Mya hanes emt Na nae a 

NELSON GOODYEAR ING. August léth, 1910, 

Thomas A. Edison, Esq., #2. 

and the greatest of shipping hazards occur in calms in crowded 
port entrances like New York's Lower Bay, and under those 
conditions a wave actuated whistle is quiet, Another import— 
ant advantage of the electrically driven Klaxon siron would be, 
that we could give it definite churacteristics, a feature which 
is very urgently needed, as you will appreciate, jhen a vessel 
is coming in on dead reckoning, she may know her approximate 
location, but almost never knows it exactly, and as these buoys 
will be used in great numbers, it is not only desirable that 
their light has definite characteristics, that is, so many 
seconds light and so many seconds dark, alternated perhaps with 
different colored screens, or different numbers of flashes, but 
they should be distinguished by different sound characteristics, 
i.e., a long and a short blast, or two short blasts, etc., up 
to a number which would serve for buoys, perhaps tor 100 miles, 
when the system. could start over in the reverse order so that 
from | Shaeadeewer ie to characteristic there would be a distance 
of say 200 miles, or whatever the lighthouse men think advisable, 
This buoy business which I started 4 couple or years ago 
has proven most interesting, and presents a great many very 
fascinating problems, and I have wondered if I could not get 
your interest to the extent of your assisting us with some of 
the electric problems which are out of our line, particularly 
as it would seem that your battery would be the biggest step 
toward the solution of the problems. The buoy shown in 
the enclosed cut, carrying 3500 lbs. of carbide will burn about 

nine months; the small one about six months without any attention 



NELSON GOODYEAR INC. August 16%,1910. 
Thomas A, Edison, Esq., 73. 

By floating a storage battery on the line, would it not 
be possible to get a wave actuated electric generator which 
would keep the battery charged, or would it be simpler and 
more practical to use a large enough battery to last the entire 

I trust you will pardon the length of this letter, but I 
assure you we can do a very large volume of business if we can 
work out a powerful sound signal, and the importance of the un- 
dertaking seems to me to warrant my writing you at such length. 

I hope to have s revolving apparatus to represent the 
weight of a revolving flastlight at your factory in due course, 
as this is also an extremely important thing for stationary or 
shore aids. 

Yoursvery truly, 

Dic. N.G.---k. 

Dry EIS 

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Thomas A. Edison Esq ., tf ELK ar a i oa 
Orange , Ud. Maes | é 

Dear Mr. Bdison:- ; C/ 

Referring to our recont interviews and the desire 
which you then expressed to meet a couple of able steam railway 
men who were experienced in railroad engineering practice and 
traffic conditions, would say that if agreeable to you I shali 
be glad to bring over ir. A.R. Whaley,Assistent General Manager 
of the Hew York Centrel, and Mr. B.F. Wood , Assistant Chief 
Engineer of the Pennsylvania Railroad,to meet you next Monday 

I have already talked over this matter with ur. 
Beach who has kindly arranged to bring us ont in his auto. Should 
this particuler date not be entiroly cdénvenient for you, shall be 
Gled to meke the call at some other time . 

With kindest regards, 

Most sincerely yours, 

Doakler, . 4 and 

Contractors to H.M. Orrice oF Works. On ApmirRALTyY ano War OFFice Lists. 



einen es: Sra September, 1910, 

Telephone No.—WESTMINSTER 6167. 

PHN/J. (Ann at Finspury Pavement House, £.C.) 

Thos. Edison, Esq., he, aga ee 
The Laboratory, cay Vas | 

New York. Ch ee Excgl Lond Gut a 
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Wr ape Wtene ban, Vi Getic chow. 

Weare much obliged to you for your raSSur of the 
15th ultimo, and in reply beg to say that with regard to the 
question offthe Rritish Government taking uv your batteries 
for the propulsion of submarines, we gather from your letter 
that you do.not at present Wish your invention to be published 
as a Patent: Specification, or in any other way in this coun- 



Dear Sir: 

We take it that you have, either not yet anplied 

ee a Patent in the U.S.A., or that if so, you do not intend 

applying in this country until your U.S. Patents are ready 
for allowance. There is, however, no risk rin of publication 
even if a applied for in this country. . 

Tn cases Where the Government is to he anproachedad, 
the course adopted is for the inventor, whether a subject of 
this country or not,to apply for a Patent in Great Rritgain 
in the ordinary way, -iust before the invention ts submitted 
to the Government. Immediately the Government takes the 
invention under consideration, the inventor applies for hia 
Patent to be made a secret Patent,in Which case the Patent is 
not printed when accepted, and the invention is not vublished 
in any Way, and its secret is carefully guarded by the Government 

In addition, ine Specifications of such inventions 

are not examined by the ordinary examiners, but go to a special 

department of the Rritish Patent Office, so that there is no 
possibility of anything leaking out. In the event, however, 
of the Government not taking up the invention, (which we trust 
in this case Would be unlikely), the Patent may simply be I 
dropped, if no publication is desired, and then the invention 
never. becomes printed as a ‘snecification, and nothing conse- 

‘quently can ever become known about it, unless the inventor 

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choses to make the matter public himself. To arop a Patent, does 
not hinder the application for a fresh Patent for the same 
matter at a later date. ; 

We hope that you will decide to take out a Rritish 
Patent, and let us introduce the battery to the Admiralty, which, 
as We have said before, We are in a favourable position to do, 
and We shall be pleased to hear what arrangements you are 
prepared to make with us in connection With this business. 

We are quite aware of what the Admiralty are doing 
with respect to Accumulators for Submarines, and are of the 
opinion that your invention should be placed before them at 
the earliest vossible date. 

Vours faithfully, 


nn 71: ne en OL eS oO 

New York Clty, September 3,1910, 

Me. Thomas A. Fdison 
Frontenac, N.Y 
My dear ur, Hdison,- 

; A representative of the Lake Torpedc Boat Go. called \ 
this morning to discuss the battery matter, having gotten wind 
of it from Lieut, Ellyson. ; 

He agsicad for and received from me, a copy of tha report 
I hended in, compiled fvom conversation between Ellyson, McNair, 
Warren and ourselves, in your Laboratory in July, He states 
frankly that: the lead cell ig totally jnadequate, and was much 
impressed by the discharge curve #38, dated coptenber 1910, 
forvarded to mt by Mr, Bee vesterday, 

The Laka Uoupany ara building ani exnect to have ready 
for the water within two montha, a.ocat for deannstration pure 
DOBESe . e 

They prem inclined to offer thésuse of this boat to 
try out a practical submarine battery equipment, 

I explained tnat I could see no reason why the Edison 
Battery Company snould axpend a large amount of money to equip 
a boat, when a practical test could be conducted on a Tow cells 
in the Govornmmeant Experiment Station, 

TI teld tue representative, nowever, I would put this 
matter up to you for your consideration, 

I expect Sliyson down this afternoon to spend Sunday 
with me, and will uwdgise you if J succeed in getting any further 
information of volue. 

I am expecting Mr, Lake to call on me noxt week for 
the purpose of discussing the matter of refinancing his company 
and placing it on a satisfactory basis, both from the standpoint - 
of sudficient working capital and influence at washington, Will 
advise you further. in this connection. 

I hope you are having a pleasant time. 

Yours sincerely, ‘ ; ; i 

e} Bre therry ~ . 
eB 4, h-0/7 . 7 
Conese Sept. Sth, 1910. 

lir. Edison: - 


I have made a preliminary run with the small single 
commutator rectifier on a 60-volt battery. There was no difficulty 
in maintaining synchronous speed or securing a steady charging current, 
but I have found the following effects due to the high voltege of the 

battery which did not show up on the small test cells. 


It is not practicable to use soft carbon brushes under the 
above conditions. The commmteator seems to get coated very quickly 
with an imperceptible film of high resistance, but unstable in charac- 
ter. For instence: with the battery switch off and running free 
the voltmeter will show at first 60 or 70 volts; within a few minutes 
this will drop possibly as low as 40 volts at times; though when the 
battery switch is closed and the charging current is passing the voltage 
immediately arises to 65 and remains steady. The effects, however, of 
this coating on the commutator is to. render it liable to flash over in 
operation. It is not so marked if the carbon brush is connected to 
the negative terminal of the battery. 

I find the best results so far by using a composite brush 
recently put on the market by the National Carbon Co., and composed 
largely of finely divided copper with a small percentage of graphite 
or carbon. This is much more stable in operation and does not show 
the same tendency to flash as with carbon. 

This first commutator was intentionally made with the active 
segments embracing an are of 45° so as to take in the whole wave of 

alternation» I believe, however, it will be better to make this 

(Page 2) 

active segment narrower, as shovm in Sketch, Fig. J; the width of this 
active segment to be governed by the voltage of the battery to be 
charged. For example: if the battery voltage igs 60, as shown im 
Fig. il, the active segment should be relatively of the width show in 
"B", so that contact will be made and broken nearer the zero point, 
or balancelly vol tage oi the charging wave and battery. 

AS I have already stated, I believe it will be advisable to 
use two short rectifying commutators,in series, on the plan in Pig. 2; 
So that we will have four gaps in series at the point of breaking the 
circuit, and the total gap will be made at e rate four times as great 
as the speed of the alternation or current wave. 

I heve written a déscription and made sketches » complete, 

for Mr. Lewis of the Legal Dept. so as to prepare patent application 

covering the above points and also some other details. 

D. M. Bliss 


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el Sept. 12, 1910. 

ilr. Boe: 

Referring to the attached lettor from The Rauch 
& Long Carriage Company at Clevelend, this soems to have beon 
overlooked, so Il wish you would sive ig the necessary data 
right away in order that I mey ba sble"to answer it. 

Wheat ebout the amount of attention the battery 
roquires and the cost incurrod in charging? low do these 
compare with the lead batteries? 

Wheat about the cffeet of tho battery solution 
on the varnish of the car? 

chey vefor in theiy letter to the guezantoe we 
have givon thom in the past. Wheat euerantee was this? 
; I was undor the improssion that tho battery 
the HermamCompeny hed, had boen returned to Rauch & Lang. 
Do you Imov whethor this is so or not? 

let me have tho ncessary dete es to the mile~- 
ase of pleasure cars that they want. 

I want this information right away so thot I 
can conswer thelr letter. 

. de dD. 



Posto, Sf, 



CHARLES E.J.LAN -treas4 2 (Rap Ly FACTORY : MOO W. 29 th ST. 

. June ist, 1910. 

Edison Storage Battery Co., 

Gentlemen: = 

We have before us a copy of the Detroit 
Journal of May 28th, 1910 containing an ad.of the Ander~ 
son Company with a guarantee over its president's signa~ 
ture of 50,000 miles service with a drop in battery capa~ 
city per charge of less than ten percent in the A-6 
battery provided the solution be renewed once a year. 

He makes a further guarantee that if the 
vehicle is kept in one of that Company's garages and 
fails within twelve months to keep up its rated capacity, 
they whll replace it with a lead battery, refimd the 
difference in cost of the two, thus making no charge for 
the mileage obtained from the Edison battery to date. 

. This guarantee we think must certainly be 
influenced to a certain degree by what you are willing 
to do for the vehicle manufacturer. One of our agents 
has one of your 40 cell A-6 batteries in service now and 
if we knew just how far we oan go in guaranteeing tho 
battery we would be in better shape to do our share of 
the business. 

Very truly yours, 

JHHeL i 

“‘'Me Rauch & Lang Carriage Co-, 


duno 7, 1910. 


Cleveland, Ohio. 

Your favor o£ the 1st inst. hes been received, and in 
reply I beg to advise you that the guarantee of the Edison stor- 
age batterybby the vrostdent of the Anderson Cerriage Co. is 
based onticely on his ovm responsibility ond was innno degroe 
influenced by oursolves- Wo might sey, howover, that where tho 
Edison bettery is talzen cere of in a proper garago end the in- 
structions for its un-keep are obsorved with reasonable care 
wo think from our ovm tests end experience that this guarentco 
is porfectly sate. We do not make such a guarantee oursclyes 
pecause after the bettory loaves our factory we have practically 
no control over it, but in tho caso of e manufacturer maintaining 
an vp-to-dete garage we bolievo that such a guarantee can be 
safely made. 

Yours vory truly, 

BLD/ Dav ; Vice-President. 

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Mr. Bee: 

Replying to your memorandum of the 12th inst. 
I wish you woulda answer the letter from C. B. Heynos 
% Company of Richmond, Va., and tell them that we will 
let them handle the Edison ignition battery along the 
lines you suggest. Moke it perfectly cloar to them 
that we will give them jretection so long as we are 
satisfied that they doing “the businoss properly, Any 
orders in thoir territory will bo reforred to them. 

FP. i. Dd. 
FID. ARK, ; 


New York Uity, Sept.21,1910, 


Mr. Thomas A. Edison ; 
Edison storage Battery Uo, ao) 


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My dear Mr, Edison,- 
Herewith please find blue print of sketch showing 
Principal Dimensions of Storage Battery Tank for U, S, 
Submarine Torpedo Boats - 
Kindly keep this sketch covered up on your desk, 
as it would not do for any battery people to see this, 
These plans are all exceedingly hard to get hold 
of, and it. could not be done very well if the Bureau nad not 
been instructed oy the General Board several years ago to 
give me any blue prints I may call for, to be used by me 
solely in original work, and be treated as confidential, 
I have just returned from a trip West, and have 
several interesting things to talk over with you regarding 
batteries, Will try to Get out the latter part of the week, 

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Ur. Smith:- 

; Replying to your momorendum of September 12th, 
I have discussed the question with lr. Edison as to the 
expense of using bismuth in the nickel pockets, As I 
understand from him, the swelling whon nickel alone is 
used is very great, and thet when bismuth is employed the 
swelling is somewhat reduced, but even with the mixture 
of the two materials the swelling is so greet that flat 
pockets cannot be used. Hence, the employmont of tubular 
pockets is necessary. I do not know whether under these 
circumstances it will be worth while to apply for a Cannd- 
ian patent on the tubular pockets using a mixture of 
nickel ani bismuth, but since the examinations at Ottawa 
are not very close, it might be worth our while to make 
the attempt, If you conclude that this ought not to be 
done, let me Imow, and I will discuss the matter with you, 

Ro OD, 

ME. THORNTON, President. Mrs. EC. THORNTON, Treasurer. 

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My dear Mr. Edison,- 

October 19, 1910, 

ite. Thomas A. Edison, 
Edison Storage Battery Uo., 

Orange, N. J. 

Enclosed herewith please find letter from 
Lieutenant Howe with specifications for storage batteries for 
gun firing and sight lighting. 

I am enclosing copy of my Lettar to 
Lieutenant Commander Upham. 

If you nave a few moments I wish you 
would read these specifications B80 as tO become familiar with 
them and I will discuss the matter with you as soon as I hear 

from Mr. Upham, 

‘Yours sincerely, 

AND at a NO, 

: Ne \Y October 18, 1910. 

My dear Hr.Hutchison:- 

I regret very much this delay ia answering 
your letter regarding the requirements of marine 
storage batteries, but the delay was caused by 
rush of work in the office which prevented me 
getting around to get the specifications; and 
again, by the absence of the officer who has 
cherge of this when an effort was made to get 
the same. 

The Navy is interested greatly in improved 
storage batteries, and I trust that your efforts 
to improve the quality and diminish the weight 
of the marine storage batteries will be a success. 

These specifications I think will give you a 
sufficient guide as to the character of storage 
battery desired. 

Any further questions on this matter had bet- 
ter be taken up with Lieutenant-Commander F.B. 
Upham,U.S.i3., who has the direct charge of this 
work in the Bureau of Ordnance. 

Nishing you all success, I aya; 

Yours sincerely, 

Asante wS.N. 

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I have been very ort interefoed pods pny) {y 

Past two years in quite a remarkable co pound cal sd Vo Voltax, 

The Pennsylvania Railroad is using it Vee neg Serie eh 

steel bridges and other metal work, en, seems to abso 

prevent rusting, is an excellent insulator, will stand variations 

in temperature, alkali solution etc, 

It occurred to me it might be a fa Plan to 

try this dupound on the battery jars instead of the grease, 

If you can heat the jar to about 135 degrees and immerse in 

Voltax of the same temperature, the resultant thin coating would, 

I think, Prove valuable from rust proof and insulating standpoints , 
I am asking the Voltax.people to send you 

@ gallon of this compound in case you desire to test it out, 

Yours sincerely 




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Cee Oklahoma City, Oklahoma, 

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October 25, 1910. 
Mr. Thomas A. Edison, 
Orange, N. J, 
Dear Sir:-- 

The Citizens Traction Company of Oklahoma City is a corpor~ 
ation having in operation a street car line from the oity limits to 
& large city park four miles therefrom. The company is desirous of 
entering the city either upon a regularly constructed electric trolley 
line or by making connections with some sort of an auto bus line. 

The officers of the company have been noticing from time to 
time that your batteries have been used in connection with a street 
car for paved streets without track and trolley, and are desirous of 
gaining all the information they can upon this subject as to cost of 
installation and other matters that might be of interest under the 

We have had some correspondence with the Beach Electric 
Car Company, but we are particularly interested in the trackless and 
trolleyless side of the question, so that a car could be operated 
from the end of our line into the heart of the oity and around the 

business section on paved streets. 

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We would be under obligations to you for sending us such 
literature as you may have on hand in regard to this matter, 
Respectfully yours, 

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5S. C. CLARK, instructor In Chemistry 

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Washington, Ds Co, Oct. 28, 1910, ; 

Mr. Thomas A. Edison, 
West Orange, Ne Je 

My dear Mr. Edison: 

In caso tho nature of this communication is not of interest 
to you personally, please be so good as to refer it to the corporation, or the 
persons, who are concerned with the dovolopment of the "Tracklass storage bat~ 
tery car," which is, according to the Sci. Amer. for oct. 22, 1910, page 311, 
middle column, paragraph 6, "Another step in the evolution of suburban travel," 

When we came here about a year ago to accapt a position on the scientific 
staff of the Department of Agriculture, our family decidsd, in accordance with 
the advice of many of our colleagues, to try living in the suburbs. The retro», 
spect of our childhood on the farm has, for a number of years, causod my wife 
and myself to long for an opportunity to give our children also the benefit of 
the happiness and training for usofulness that generally results from life ona 
farm. Accordingly, we spent considerable time, as much as we could for soveral 
months, viewing the various suburban possibilities about Washington and finally 
we chose a place a little off the usual boaten paths of suburban travel. This we 
did for soveral reasons among which are the following: 

1.The region, located on the wooded hills overlooking the potomac, is one 
of great natural beauty and picturesqueness and the soil, as evidenced by oc 
casional well kopt fields and orchards, seems to respond gonerously to intolli+ 
gent treatment, The locution is aimost idenlly adapted to the needs of a subure= 
ban villago; provided adequate means of communication with the city could be 

2» The Chain Rridge crosses the Potomac at a distance of about 5-1/2 mi, 
from the centers of business and departmental activity. It lies at the end of 
the excallent Canal Road, which affords casy access to the city and its suporb 
streets, The old Georgetown and Leesburg "Pike" starts on the Virginia side of 
this bridge and runs up the river hills toward Langley, Fairfax co., Vae Glen 
Isle, our little patch of 20 A., is about 1-1/2 mi. from the Chain ’pridge. Thes 
rdad:for this:distdnceyiscexteodingly rough and difficult, although the bed of 
the "Pike" is good and very durable and strong. The road is much in need of re« 

\ surfacing and repair. It is, however, passable at all seasons of the year, An 
Offre automobile should be able +o make the bridge from the city in 20 min. and the 
climb up the hil to Langley (3 mi.) in an equal period or less, 

3. The prices of land along the "Pike" have not as yet beon inflated by 
realty operators and there is chance for a cooperative community to be formed, 

- Hence you soo my deep interest in the article mentioned ubove. Please send 

: full particulars concerning the car and your estimato of its aduptability to our 

= (conditions. It is possible that we might arrange to try out a car ag the Edison- 
Beach car was tried out on a surface line in New York recontly, The nearest elec 

soeetrical current is at the Chain Bridge and the noarest “trolley! about 2/4 mi, 

zs beyond, also up a hill and somewhat difficult to reach, 


It seems to us that there could hardly be better conditions, thanthese, for 
C2 proving the merits of a "Trackless storage battery care" 








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Mr. Thomas A. Edison, 

Orange, N.J. 

Dear Sir: 

In accordance with your letter of Aug. Slst, I had ex- 
pected to hear from you last month with reference to the matter 
of submarine batteries, but so far I have heard nothing. I beg to 
call your attention to the matter and trust that you will be able 
to take it up at an early date. As submarine orders are separated 
by periods running from a year to a year and a half, a few months 
delay in preliminary work involves over a year's delay in results. 

In connection with tne matter, I am enclosing you copy 
of the results of the tests made here on five cells, Type B-4. 

If the results obtained here are abnormal, I should be very glad 
to have your views in explanation of the matter. 

I have in hand now for certain European countries two 
different designs of submarine boats in which other conditions 
limit the battery space seriously go that they are peculiarly 
suited for your battery. In the one case, the large cell would 
be required involving development work; in the other case, I be-~ 
lieve we could use a cell practically identical with your Type 
A-8. In that connection, will you be kind enough to give me the 

following information:- 

ifr. Thomas A. Udison. . ’ Nov. 2nd, 1910, 

1. Have you a European factory and if so how does the 
European price compare with tne American. 

2. What discount can be obtained on orders involving 
large numbers of cells. 

3. If you have no European factory, could you quote 
~ special export prices, and if 50, at what reduction 
from American prices. 

As the possible use of the A-8 cells is urgent, I would 
be greatly obliged for early information on the subject covering 
not only the inquiries as to prices, etc., but also the question 
as to whether the cells would be free" -the defects shovm by. the 
B-4 cells as indicated in the second and 3ra paragraphs of the 
memorandum herewith. 

Trusting that you will be able to give the matter your 
early attention, I beg to remain 

Very truly yours, 





In our tests of five cells sent to us by the Edison 

Storage Battery Co., the following results were obtained:« 

First--On the normal discharge rate (15 amp) the 
cells gave the capacity in ampere hours claimed for them, but 
the average voltage of the working part of the curve is 1.13 
volts, instead of 1.2 volts as claimed. 

Second--On discharging the cells at 25 amp. imue-~ 
diately following a charge, the reduction in ampere hour 
capacity below that at normal rate was not excessive, but the 
averare voltage was 1% lower than that at normal rate, being, 
about 1.05 volts. The reduction is due to the high internal: 
resistance of the cells. ‘This high internal resistance not 
only causes a heavy drop in voltage but also causes the cells 
to heat. The rise in temperature of the cells during dis- 
charge was 38°F. 

Third--When the cells stand sometime after charge, 
before the discharge takes place, a very material reduction 
in both ampere hour capacity and in average voltage occurs. 
Even when the time of standing idle extends only from one day 
to the next, the reduction in ampere hour Capacity is over 10%. 
On standing 3-1/2 days, the ampere hour cupacity was reduced | 
26%, taking the minimum voltage at .8 volts per cell. Not 
only was the ampere hour capacity reduced, but the average 
voltage was one-tenth of a volt (11%) lower than in the for | 
mer case, On standing one month after a charge, the ampere | 
hour capacity was not only still farther reduced, but the | 
voltage curve assumed a complex form. When 35 ampere hours | 
were taken out of the cells, the curve commenced to bend dow 
as ‘though the end of the discharge was near. After a tine | 
the curve bent the other way, and did not again bend sharply 
down until 60 amperes total had been taken from the cells. 

The voltage at this part of the curve was low, being only 


i -63 volt. 
Yourth--The curve of temperature rise of the cells 
during discharge is practically a straight line. “Since all 
the voltage curves which we have obtained from these cells 
are lower than those sent us by the Edison Storage Battery 
Co., and also the fact that heavy local action occurs .when 
the cells are doing no external work, we conclude that the 
chemical reactions which take place in the active material 
are complex in theignature, and cannot be depended upon to 
return the energy delivered to them. This is shown in the 
discharge curve of the cells after they stood one month after 
charge. This curve indicated that there were two chemical 
reactions taking place, one giving a higher E.M.F., than the 
other, The fact that the temperature rise curve during dis- 
charge is a straight line would indicate that a large portion 

of the internal resistance is in the metallic support. 

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Mr, Thoman A. Adison, 
Oranya, il. od, 

My dear Mr. fdiscr,y- 
Horevith cony of Letter to Rear~Admiral | 

Mason, Also copy of lettec to Bee in reply to his letter of the 

second instant, 

battery 2s mach as possinle. 

I pbomised the Tews VW. B. Pindlay, 699 

-Ontario, Toronto, Canada,to remind ycu to send to him photegraph, 

as per your promluc,e 

. "he other gentlenan whe intreduced Dr. 
Vindlay also wishes « pnotograph. I cannot at the monent 
recall his name, 

Yours sincerely, 





November 3,1910, 
Mr. Janes Ki, Anderson dr. 
CY Edison Laboratories, 
Vest Opange,N.d, 
Dear iit. Anderson:— 

Sometime ago the Civil Service Comission 
held an examination for chauffeur examiners and among the 
questions asked was one which read something like this: 

"What is the specifie éravity of the solution 
used in batteries of electric vehicles?" 

There seens to be a difference of opinion 

as to the ans wwér, which I contended was twelve hundred and 

Willd you Be Kind enough to advise me regarding 

this and greatly obili Ge, 

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Mr. Tf. OH Flliott, Esq., 
Touring Club of Aue rica, 
Broadway & 76th Street, 
New York City. 
Dear Sir: . 
In reply to yours of the 3rd inst, regarding specific 
aravity of Electrolyte in Storage Batteries, 
In the Edison Battery the Electrolyte consists of a 
21% solution of (K.0.1.) Potash together with a small amount 
of Lithium, The specific gravity Of a normal solution should 
be 1,210 and should not be allowed to fall below 1.160, This 
specific gravity would correspond to 26 degrees Baume's Hydrometer, 
In the Case of the Lead Batteries where Sulphuric Acid 
ie used the Specific Gravity of a battery fully charged should be 
1.300 )34 degrees Raume) though a variation from 1.275 to 1.300 
is allowable, 
Hoping this will answer your question, I remain, 

Respectfully yo urs, 

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NEWPORT, Nov. 3—Lient. Baldwin, | 
_ commanding, and tho twelve men of the’ 
jerew of tho submarine boat Octopus, | oO 7) 
inarrowly escaped suffocat{on, by tho ; ye hes, 
fumes of sitphuric acld when she wag 
subnierged in the bay yesterday, 
Coming to the surface, the Octopus 
signaled for assistance and was towed 
in. Five men wero lifted out of the 
| craft. and hurried to the naval hospital 
| Two were quickly revived; one seemod 
in very sorious condition. All will: re- 
cover. i : 
The Octopus, which has no tender, hag + 
been practising ahd experimenting In 
these waters, While she was diving yes- 
{terday something went wrong with her 
, batteries and the choking famos of tito 
neld in them quickly Dermeated tho 
craft, ‘In response to her algnals of dlsa- 
tress a Inunch specded out from the 
torpedo station and towed In the Octo- 
pus. Commander Bristol hurrled out in 
isTitinch and medical asalstance was 
sent from the hospital, 3 


November 7, 1910, . 

Mr, Thomas A. Sdison, 
Orange, N. J. 

My dear Mr, Kaison,- 

in conference today with the Lovell-McConnell 

Mfg, Co., manufacturers of my Klaxon horn, I suggeated in our 
literature and among our salesmen, we recommend the Jdison Battery 
to operate Klaxons. 

The battery you gave me last Spring is still 

on the car, has been operating my Xlaxon all through the Summer, 

amd has not yet been chargdéd since 1 raceived ib. From present 
indications, it is good for at least six months more without 

. The factory wants +o make a break-dewn test 
to determine how ete times the battery will sound the Klaxon 
vefore it is necessary to reehhagge, and I think it would be a 

wise plan to send them two complete ignition vatteries Lor 

similtaneous testing, 

T do not think it would be advisable to put 
out anything but tne Bismuth Battery on this work, because Klaxon 
takes about eight amperes, and the battery when operating the 
Elaxon, doas not rat enough discharge work te warm it up. As a 
great many Klaxons are used in Winter, "there are ahout 35,000 in 
use altogether today," I am afraid the regular battery would not 
be on the job in zero weather, 

Yours sincerely, 

November 7, 1910, 

Mr. Thomas 4. RBdinson, 

My dear Mr, Edison,- 

I am now dasigning a motor-cycle Klaxon, 

I want to run it from a storage battery, 

Onvidisisy the regular ignition battery 
could not be carried.on a motor-cycle, , 

Do you contemplate making up a size bateany 
baat canine uees in those small portabls lamps, such as you 
have on your dent? 

If so, T thanic a large number of tnese could 
be sole for sparking moter-crycles and operating Klaxons thereon, 

Tf you will get un this tape battery, we 
will gell the motor-cyels Zlaxon somplete with battery. 

Thares arog thousands of motor-cycles in use, 
and as yet, there is no adequate horn for them, I will therefore 
anticipate very large sales for a motor-cycle horn, 

Yours slacerely, 

Sanuk 7 ‘ : 
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NEW YORK \ AD November 10, 1910, 

ur, Thomas A. Edison, AN 

Orange, N. J, 
My dear Mr. Edison,- 

I am in receipt of letter and clipping from the 
Boston Edison Company. The clipping is an embellishment of the one I 
sent you, but with appended detail of results without stating the 
cause of the gas. 

This trouble was due to elther of two causes: 

First: When cruising on the surface with hatches open, 
and running before the wind, the exhaust gases,rising to the 
surface from the exhaust pipe of the engine, pour down the hatches 
and concentrate in the long compartment aft of the engine. The 
engineer feels the gases first, but enough fresh air comes in to 
enable him to disregard the gas. When the hatches are closed, and 
the boat dives, this volume of heavy gas rolls forward, The lighter 
air rises to the pockets formed by the wells of the hatches and 
conning tower. Hence, the man forward, at the elevating and depress-« 
ing rudder gear, is the first one seriously effected, The danger 
zone then extends aft, as the boat ceases diving, and comes to a 
horizontal position for sub-surface cruising. Even when cruising 
on the surface into the wind, the back draft produced by the 
conning tower and shape of the boat, drives the exhaust gas into 
the after hatch, ; 

Second: Chlorine gas produced by leaking jars, or slopping 
over of electrolyte in too abrupt diving, will, as you know, produce 
the same results, the man forward getting the gas first, because 
een and salt water flow toward the bow of “n6 boat. as she is 

“Thug I am unable to attribute the result to 
either of the above causes without official information, which I 
hope to secure in a few days. 

I am returning the letter and clipping to you, 
as you request, 

Suggest that you start a submarine clipping book, 
for reference, as I will forward all clippings that come to my notice 
to you, and can lock them over in the laboratory, when occasion arises 

Yours sincerely, 




ir, Thomas A. Edison, 
Orange, N. J. 

My dear Mr. Edison,- 


My conversation with Mr, Bédell of Me 

Holland Boat Company was more or less disjointed hecause of th f é 

derailment of the Beach Uar by the defective frog.., and the Ps 

fact that I had nineteen people of more or less prominence in the i 

party to look ‘after. fi 
Summing the matter up: The Holland people 

are very anxious to learn the performance of the proposed yf 

submarine type, the plates being made up in such size as will 6 4 

enable them to replace the presenr lead cells in boats already q 

puilt, with the new cell, They have a definite space available 

for batteries, and wish to fill this space as full of Edison wi, 

Cells as it is possible to get it, \g 
Would it not be possible to turn out simply 

one positive and two negatives for preliminary tests? I realize 

that the proper machinery must be made for making up the tubes, 

filling etc., but I hope this ean be done and the three plates 

turned out in less time than the. five months you' me, 

The Holland Boat Company's contract runs out 
with the Exide people very soon, and I think they are figuring on 
using Edison Uell exclusively, Mr. Bedell seemed exceedingly 
anxious to get little more definite data than is at present 

I am enclosing a letter received from McNair 
today, which kindly return after reading, 

The friends I took out on the Beach Var 
Saturday predict for it a very brilliant future. Mr. Alfred I 
duPont came over from Wilmington to look into the battery matter. 
He wants to design up some electric locomotives for hauling 
through his powder works, and also batteries for lighting his.’ . 
residence, I am putting Billy Bee on his trail. 

Yours sincerely, 
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¢ Nov. 26h, 1910, 

uésore Edison and Dodge: 
, In the new, regularly-assembled, "A8" plate 
groups which you sent me I find the metallic resistances and resultant 

volt losses to be as follows: 

Nickel Group. 

Total resistance from pole top to eight mid-points of 
the parallelled plates: .000189 ohm. This resistance is divided 
up as follows: 

Pole, 35% 
Rod & Washers, 15.2% 
Plates, 49.8% 

Iron Group 
Total resistance from pole top to nine mid-points of 
the parallelled plates: .0002187 ohm, divided up as follows: 
Pole, 50.2% 
Rod & Washers, 17.2% 
Plates, 52. 5% 

Adding the resistances of the two groups the total motallio 
resistance is found to be .0004074 ohm, or about 20% of the average 
internal resistance (.0019 ohm) of the "A8" cell. 

' According to these figures the metallic resistance 
(Maximum) in a new "48" cell woulda cause volt losses a8 follows: 

(Page 2) 

At Normal At 4 x Normal 
Rate Rate: 
Volt loss in poles, «0079 ©0317 
OP "rods & washers, 20040 0159 
nO " plates, - 0125 0502 
Total, per cell, 0244 -0978 

In percentage figures, the metallic volt losses would be: 
‘At normal rate, 2% of average voltage. 
" 4x normal rate, 9% " ss 

In a 60-cell battery of AS cells this would amount to: 
1.44 volts at normal rate. 

5-76 " "“ 4x normal rate. 

I have also made measurements of metallic resistence of 
groups taken from an "A8" ‘eell which had had 3 or 4 discharges, and 
then was given a severe lateral Jolting treatment, and have found in 
this case that the contacts had deteriorated greatly, . showing increased 
of resistance of 18% in the nickel © group and 57% in the iron group. 

_ These results show that metallic resistance is a considerable 
factor in the case of ‘the "A8" cell, and also that the contact system, 
‘now used, ‘is liable to much deterioration. 

_ The: conductivity of the. poles, plates and connecting rods 
shoulda be inoreast as much: AB ‘4a feasible. ‘Also, I would urge the nec~. 
cessity of improving ‘the present . contact, system, and would suggest that 
autogenous welding of the tubes and pockets with their. -respeotive grids 
and of the grids with the connecting. rode, “aif found practicable, would 

produce ideal conditions, both as’ to condiiotivity and as to permanence 
of contacts. 
Welter ‘E. Holland. 




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Dear Mr. Edison, Vv 

About a week ago, while in conference with Geo. W. Young 
and Dr. Ricketts, of the well known firm of analytical chemists~ 
Ricketts and Banks, Br. Ricketts said ne has in his employ a very 
bright man, a chemist, who has succeeded in extracting nickel from 
nickel<copper-iron ore etc., in a perfectly commercial manner. 

At the time, owing to the other matter in hand, I did not 
realize the importance of the statement. This afternoon, while talk« 
ing to Ralph Beach in Young's office I suddenly remembered, and 
called up Dr. Ricketts to verify the statement. 

He says it is true. I then said I thought you would 
propably be interested in learning of it, as I understand you are 
paying a pretty stiff price over the cost to produces af per 
pound, and furthermore own a nickel mine. 

I have asked Dr, Ricketts to go out to the Laboratory 
when convenient to talk this matter over with you. He says he can 
make it early next week. 

Do you want to see him? If so, I will arrange a daye 

I returned from Boston today and am arranging my data to 
report to you the result of my trip to the Electric Boat Co's yard. 

Will be out Thursday afternoon tomorrow. 


[DECEMBER 1, 1910] 


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-| Dear. Mr. Edison, 

nog g, the. following is a report of my visit to the Works | 
of the Bleatric Boat Co., Quincy, Masu., Nove29, I9TO. 

- -<TlIave no ‘ship-yvard of their own. Lo¢ated in yard of 
VoresRiver Shipbuilding Co, to whom they uublet contracts 

| for all, heavy. work on their -hoats on -AtLlantic-Uoast, with 



yinilar arrangement with concern on Pacific Coast. : 
eee Present building about T25! X 06", 2 storien, ano. 
Pwnich is Located their large drafting reom( aooub 25 dratts= 
men), their generat. orfices, and a machine shop ( about 

6O men) Yor asuembly of svialler party, ALL ocritracte tor 

908% of their parts let to outside shops, 

‘they are building two large submurines for U.S.Navye | 
Mach about 135 feet Lotig, Will be launched sonetine next _ . 
Sumner, WALL soon start to muild three more of sane type on 
Paucitic Coaht, which will be launched sometime during Spring 

TOP TOU Bg rrr rr rn re res per oenaon Lees 

fhe batteries are installed in one of ‘the two boats 
budidings..and. contranted for ow other -one. Nhe three on: ---c ce 
Pacific Coast could be equipped with Wdison battery if 
,data oan he procured incorporate an. final design. 

this, no doubt, owing to 

WWwiLL supercede these ngelish ansines. lt aE 2 cycle) 
y vhey seem very’ anxious: to procure the best of every- 
hing Zor their product...Very. progressives Do.good work. 

Spear in the businesu head aud Lobbyist. Bedell 

sot Xe bout” hall oriiinedr Mid halt wisatioss man- protty ehrewd 

meee et nee a a ed oe BAD 

“tup to her work 


fi- evar -talked-withj—thoroughLy-ou- to-his-—jobj-rery-anxious-~ 

ery | Ree en Cert ee ee eee Eee een = ete me 

indavidual. Ndgar is electrical enzineer, ana one of the best 

to use Hdiuon cella; prolific in new ideas regarding Hdison 

(Gell improvenents; thoroughly understand tM ~ lone nn 

general lay-out of the cell; has designed’ large cell to 

neet subrmerine requirenents,’ wased on $" cube negatives etce 

they"have another nan Who is their expert on tuning a boat 
after completion. : 7 

iat occa ot cy At pe gt en ney cot i ee ae tn fem Amr 

Didnt, succeed in finding out very mich about this. 

Bedell remarked they expect to increase their capital soon, 
to take care of a new works they are building near/Quincy, 

: and asked me if I thought you would be interested jn 
investing in their Company, I: told him you never go into 
outside ventures es you have your hands full with sour 
own ideas, I told him I might be able to passist bh m if 
they desire.( I could get the money together for them if 
they will let in enough to make it wortn while from the 
standpoint of a voice in adopting Vdison Battery exclusive~ 
Ly without calling on you for extlusive rights to Edison 
Cell Yor eubmarine work), He said he would communicate 
with ne later reparding this, 

at ve eee J. have Aganey investigation as 
. to “their utanding. Sugeest you do this, or I will it you 
desire. _ ‘ 

POLICY: a ' They seem cery anxious to avoid antagonizing the 
peter “"Mawy Depurbtadit in cvany wey, because ain the-hesginning: the------ 

ik virine wes looked upon with disdain by battleship adheren 
- Tits. intradusts. on. elie heen Diatnnens work, which 

lead 0: televise and. _ganolene | engines. The ponte th bay h 
peen built have been Poreced on the Navy hy Concredy iA 
poking appropriations for their construction. Shis| has veen 
“ace onplished by the expert Lobbying of Spear. Hut the 
Nepartnant hae avakened to the poss vibilities ov the bube- 
twrine, and thezr advance. wilt henceforth be more. rapid. 

SATTDARY “ART RM che ready market fur the EBdieen battery Lies in 
renewals for boats already in service in Bnflana ahd Amer~ 
dea. About twelve of the U.S. boats will soon need) new 
battery equipment. The Cuttlefish and -taruntula need then- 

(-- -thiw Winter but Io may be able “to"persuade Admiral! Cone to 
wait until next Winter on ail renewals. Lei oeecbnrtes 

It wag to meet this reudy denand that Edrear 

.-. up the cell, “blveeprints of vhicn Bedell gave you. 
detehil remarks under Propoued Submarine ype Batt 

( see 

It takes but Little readin: between the Lin 
‘Fine eo Pirm dapreunioen iv. the -ninds- of--those peopl 
& very large devand will soon come trom South Aerio: 
Countries for submarines. In tropical. waters, av fy 
it is next to impoynible to operate lead batteries. uae 
my former report), So the succens of the submarine very 
‘largely ‘dévends on the Bdison pattery, and nobody kppreciates 
this fact more than the EVB.Co. They asked me at Least 
-a dozen times to impress om-you-tho daportance. of. jearly. 
data to then on which they cen base their calculations. It 
gee fa Waa. very anusing Lo wee their abterps. to hide their anxiety 
on thin point. ‘ 
FEELERS: ~ as ” Bedell auked ne what” our ideas were ‘rerardinig 
tying up with then exclusively. Wishing to evade the ques- 
tion, IT replied that we want -to. see what can. be. produced 
in the way of a cell suited for tie work before’ considering 
the business side at all. In other Wo ras I want toe let them 
keep at work advising us in adapting the battery to submae 
rine work, without commiting ourselves on a business 





He then asked if any of their competitors had appro- 
.ached us on the battery subject. to this I replied that 
no other submarine company ssened as tsuch alive to the 
| importance of the Hdison Cell, doubtless dve to their not 
having -foLLowed: “the-aubj ect up- aE ‘sLosely-as~ ‘the hh. BsCoe: 
iI told him that practicaily all the ened are keenly inter-. 
euted and.constantly asking Lor sore.details, which were 
heing given them in general terms, Thia seemed to increase 
| their desire for ready data for caleulations. 


Z cannot impress on you too gtrongliy the nucenuity — 

} for covering up everi- ‘important detail of construction of 
this sublmarine cell, an it developed, vecause I think J. 

/ inclination. on. he-part-of the db. .Co.-to-attenmt to 
,erowd in ahead of you on some of these. the guestion or 
‘viveting the nine A nize plates to the lar, ateel bu 

|piate cane up. Thia coils Yor several hundr 
plate. Hdear sakd he had evolved a cheap method of doing 
‘thin, which -he-could not divulee to me untii-he had talked 
with Srear, because it is patentable. Hu also culled avten~ 
| tion to. the. date.of his. dvawing..of. ausenbled cell, snowing. . 
what he clains is an improved vas vent and vallane ing 
over present practice. I told him there are a eet ed 
Pdivrerent ways ot attacning A ‘plates to Larcg 
hat the combined Salling bung and yas urap was one oF 
Virst-things-you-thoughtof-yearn-aro but deeded against 
on vehicle batteries tor prac tional revsons. (At the vane 

pand Final Liquid trap dooks pretty good bor thie yurpoue) 

.  Wdear surpested that it you decide to retain the 

hn ‘tube nerative plates and prevent A’ Deaths both thick- 
ened “Up an the plates, - the: CELT be oulled tine AATS Type; . 
because each’ plate would ne corposed of $,~A positive 

-OT. Neeat dre--plates,- and-I6 -pusitives. per. “Call. -ALeo -that- it 
you. use the ure tubes, you call the cell:. a¥pe Yrh-52 the 
jlast. nu ber depending ym NUEDe Lr of pouitir 3 SOU, Bet ane. 
While this is “unimportant he. laid stress on at for sone 

~ Hhe Gell: “eis 7 The! dew Signed itis of correct width,” and 
.the new cell wust.not be even.a, sixteenth of ean sued. wider, 
tau he eant sat the- oath mein -O1--Celig -in existing 
battery tanks uboard boats’ service. The cell can be ; 
pan higher over all, ir “TOGeHSATY,. aud # little thicker. They 
have got to ‘get twice ag many Mdsson Cells in the seme space 
lan they have Lead cells, to get. the requisite voltace for 

increased very much. ; 

wee Nhe _}/P_.choun-an—_oblong_—opening—in—top- or COLL Ha oe 
his is a flat tuhe extending .te. bvettom Of. cell,, between 
side of Jar and end. plate, and. rn 
jnut, of courne, ie thinks. such. an ‘arrangement will facil~ 
itate taking electrolyte out when necessary to renew, Some 
such’ a een ne WLYL nave to “be mnades he: troponred vo “stop 
bhi tube up by hammering, into the top a rubber stopper of 

fly tae: This kind of nubterfuge is not Bdison Batiery practice, 

}proper~ shape ;- a lene these: utoppers- when-renewing eLlectro- 

holding plete, 

-tine, that combination. helias worked out, with.iwo seruens. 01. 

préaant equipment; and thererore we th seknewe yuye Tot" pen 

the _thiimer than. the end... 

but I Let it pass without corinent. : 
: They support their cells now on moulded el 
“pleces which dove-tail together end on, alternate 
provided with tuyers to perait' flow cf any frea e 
“Lyte that mignt have-slopped over into the tank. 
supports wre aoout I" high, 2" wide and 8" long e 
oo are placed-acrosy: the pot tor ot: the-jar--at right 
to plates. Boley proposes to use somewhat’ sinilar 
supports for Hdison cells. . -this-point needs. loo 
The Jars of present lead colla are placed 
ments rede up of I" wood vourds, -painted with aci 
“Cornvotnd.” ALL the” positives are "noaked ‘Gn Loa’ ro: 
extends to the resatives of the cell ahead and vo 
“connections thug-run-fore-and-aft- of-the coat, th 
‘alin athwartesahip. ae prevents the vate r-herane 
of thc. ECE CTO. fie on. the sides of the. Jace wer 
piteohes: in a nea, or dives. Alto does not was 
- tive material Lroin the piales ag rapidly. 
eS ev Ure Ste ne on placine Bdison Geils 
: plates athrarteship, ¢o their connestions will re 
Eases their: sbandard: for-und-aft-s ects They- eidnt- state dius 
Propose to sepurate the jars. Whigs point veuds ¢ 
E - .AbTUntLon wag called: tothe 2a¢gt 42: he 
they desiened up wan on current density procurabl 
“L" tubes and the cell witb bove-to he’ rerculoulist 
“outs Yer the E tuhas. 7% Min As obvions, 

INFORHATION DRGTRED: 7605 2 - i eaten emt asic eae. fa 


yen and 


King into. . 
n corpurt= 
d proot(' 9) ) 
which ~ 
One ALL 

q plates 

y effect 
ihe boat 
t the ace 

“ALLL te | 

t how they: - 

fra the 

dd thr Ou alls 

They want ae Guaelag A 2G >» Neini bie, the Tolidwing data: 

Hesis of. 4" tubes, Plates..o. A. size yak 

sige 8 high(aa 3 3 ct ont cin their KA 
e+e charging rate: 
(i) Pischarpe curves of “Tr, 2, aré 3 hour 
(2) Proper spacing hetwean plates 
x C8} ‘Blectrolyte e quantity and welent 
(4) -‘Tenyerature curves at I,2,and_ o hour 

raten, coll -oing-ercased. in. suc 
‘tors ag you propose to use seas 

Torm to operating conditions. ALJ in 

temperature off apuroximately GO 
(S$) Tenperabuse cirve of charse under san 

oe und - 

YH popara.. 
to cons 


ee Salir. 

onda + 
tions Torour-eva s$iang: jallenonthor: imebaotacrorapedppueaten 

as you recommend. 

PRICE: They seemed anxious to leam: sovething ut 

nite ap 

to proposed price, Tried to convey the iupresgion tiat they 

‘expect # cheaber price then the: lead tatiery euqi 

< tohd then it as rather early to talk prices, un 

ra ‘circumstances, but that I~ didnt see that the pric 
' especial difference wien the cifferenee inthe -be 


er the 
by riade any- 

» oo... dg considered and -Ospecialiy. LP? tne battery should ve _ 

‘specified hy the variour davies, : 

Io was a good Lietener: 

Sincerely, ~ ee ge 

ad. a 
Sere pe (Sather y 

December 2, 1910, 

Mr, Thomas A. Edison, 
Orange, N. J, 

My dear Mr, Edison,- 

I find I have several curves of the special 
cell No, 6, naving 1/8" tubes, which in some way were filed without 
being brought to ny attention, 

T am forwarding one of these curves to the 
Holland people teiav, with statement that actual results of 
manufactured cell wilt eclipse this performance by fron 2555 to 



: tan leaving for Washington tonight, and will 
report reeult of wy trin Mendav. 

Aa a raminder, plesan get the poo wou were 
going «6 put my varioun reports in for lonation, near your deBx. 

You promised me one of those large photo« 
graphs of yourself at work in tha Laboratery, such an Js nanging 
in the library fear the statue, T wish vou would write on this 
"Zo Hutch ~ fhosig 4.) Nddeon," T want to have 44 framed ana huang 
in my ofvice along with sample board of Edison Cell, which Billy 
Bee is going to send me, , ay 

I have sense enough to see that the devotion 
of a great deal of time to the Edison Rattery and Bdison-Beach 
Car will prove vary remunerating, and am therafora giving these 
matters precedence over all others, I have, after years of affort, 
built up quite a formidable array of financial ahd personal, 
connections which J can use to great advantage on this wor, and 
want you to feel that whatever I undertake for you will be given 
the very best attention in my power. I have not tackled anvthing 
yet that I have fallen down on, and want tc have this record ob-' 
tain in my work with you. 

Yours sincerely, 

f : ; Dec. 6, 1910. 

Messrs. Dodge, Bee, Wakeman, Golgstein & Christiansen: 

An important change in our present practice has been 
approved by Mr. Edison, namely, thet 25% KOH and 15 grams LLiOH per 
liter be made the Standard Renewal Solution, tobe used in all 
cases where cells in service require refilling due to their solution 
becoming weak. 7 

Thits change has nothing to do with the first filling of 
cells, but only affects the present practice of refilling. 

The supply of 21% KOH end 20 grams L1i0H per liter now on 
hand may be used up for refilling, but thereafter ita use is to be 
discontinued entirely. 

< The ‘nortial ‘spedific gravity of the new Standard Renewal 
Solution, at the different temperatures met with in practice, is 
to be determined by ttre. Goldstein and reported to the vapaoud de- 

partments interested. 

Walter E, Hollend. 
W.EAL rm 


December I3, I9I0 

Dear fir. Edison, 
. There are over 40,000 users of Klaxon today. 

Every one of them is using some kind of battery. 

There is no reaspn why all of them shonza not use Edison 
Battery, and the majority of them would do so if they knew of the 
wonderful performance on ny care . 

I am enclosing herewith a letter which I suggest you 
publish in all the automobile papers with vroper additional matter 
to bring it out . You wiil find it will pay to do ga. A copy of 
it, with literature of Edison Rattery, should be mailed to every user 
of Klaxon. I have, a record of all purchasers, with credit rating. 
Perhaps it will come in handy. 

I am in this Battery job heart and soul, and am following 
out your request to cali your attention to anything I think of 
which may prove valuable, in lines outside of my submarine depart- 
ment. , 

Now is the time to ram the ignition battery hard, for next 
Spring's business. 

- Sincerely, 



Edison Storage Battery Co., 

West Orange, Ned. 

On May Ist.,I9I0, I placed one of your Be4, 5 Cell ; 
Ignition Batteries on my automobile, for operating my Klaxon 
Warning Signal. 

Since that time, now practically eight months, my car 
has been driven approximately I2,000 miles in daily service, 

During this entire period I have never put a drop of 
water in the batteries, AND HAVE NEVER CHARGED- THEM, 

They have never failed to operate the Klaxon, and are 
today up to full voltage and evidently good for several months 
mores before re-charging will be necessary. 

I consider this a wonderful performance and, as the 

inventor of the Klaxon, cannot too highly recommend your battery 
for use therewith, 

Miller Reese Hut- 
chison invented the 
famous Klaxon Horn 

May we send you a for automobiles 
Catalogue and other saa a 
information about the ~ Read what Mr. Hut- 

new Edison Storage : 
Battery? chison says about 

Edison Storage Battery Co. ' the Edison Storage 
101 Ashland Avenue, 5 Batte ry. 

Orange, N. J. 

ih pak 
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i é % , Dear Mr Edi son be "Ae as pe . 
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Mr WH norfenl: 'st\baper } 

Baers before the meeting of, 
the Electric Vehicle Associatior 
of America, Tuesday t recat og f 
al admirable. It cannot recel vg sth . 
wide publicity. 
I cannot but thin! thagh 
_ with your battery Pintsch cae - 

% lighting on railroads can WalMe 
rot tirely displaced. Is not the be 
re 4 et moment "psychological" for a 

 & _wad! Suggestion from you to the,fail- ij 

# road manarers. 

it / Very sincerely 

Q } J tacoma Wetad ee 

‘ > | el Wishing yowthe Compli- rat 
§ PR of "ts Sat, 
sad a ny, 

Form 1048 




‘This gals Company De punted mined byrne Messages ares guly on conditions limiting Its lability, which have been assented to Se tho following m 

hgoins ting am to the sending station for com ison, and the Com, wil) ‘old Itself Hable for orrorsor delaye 
in trannies ordollvery o! thot eaced M coningon aos, beyond ae aes tolls paid id thereon, nor iu any caso where thoelaliy is ‘within sixty daya 
aftor th lon, 

is od with thy 
Th eas UNE Boe ee 

at 4 and Ind {s dolivered hy request of tho sender, undor tho conditions named above. 
ROBE. oT C. CLOWRY, President and General Manager. 

A Sp 

DEC 29 Gi ‘= 

December 22, 1910, 

Mr. Thomas A. Edison, 

Granga, %. J. 

My dear Mr, Peisan,- . 
Herenith please Sind letter. fron Captain 
Bartieht which kindly return after reading. 

Have just spert an Interesting 45 winutes 
with dear of the Rlectric Seat Company, Tald him we do not feel 
juntified in tying up with any boat. company now, and furthernore, 
do not fasl shat we would be deing juwtic: to ‘ie £, V. Company, 
by recommending thas they tie up with us at preannt,. To dvelt 
on tis fact thas wa nave not made tha sulmexine pottery yet, and 
while lt mav be perfectly satisfactory, vou have to be shown on 
a thing before you will dacide ona way or the other about it, I 
then asked nin why thav do not make their own lead batteries in- 
stead of 43 up with anyone, as pasted plate ¢s an exceedingly 
simple acticla of manntachura, and would lnava them fraq to 
purchase our battery op any other bathery they might desire for 
special surdoses. Ha tried fo pin me down to a statenent ag 40 
waether or nok wa would care to connider tying up with tries at 
sone future time, andi T wan very careful to state we would come to 
no dzcigion regarding tnat now, He was not nearly so bombastic ": 
and dictatoré41 today as he was on Tuesday, and finally wound up 
by saying he would try to keep the bars down, so that they yould 
be free to hook up with us if we denlre thea tc do so at any 
Future time, Ssemead rather disappointed nut antagonastic, and 
offerad to cooverate in any way they can meanwhile. I think the 
matter gtands ina very esate condition now, and that we are playing 
save no matter what way the cat jimaps§ 

. ' Wishing youa very happy Uhriatmas and many 
more of them, I cemain, 

Yours sincerely, 


(Wee | 
of oe 
Se ce 
Wks ) 
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Bottiny SY, 

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Mr. Dodge having resigned as General Manager of the 
Edison Storage Battery Company, on and after January 1, 1911, 

Mr. George F. Scull will act as General Manager. 

12/27/10. Vice-President. 

Sate, es iris SO TRE TaN 


1 + perforated stock before use in tube machines, to ascertain 
if holes are open, if the size of holes have not changed but 
follow a stancard gauge, to see that the holes next to scam aro 
smaller than those avay from seam so tube will not split by a 
swelling of mixture, to sce that the thickness of the stock is 
the tame within agreed linits both for iron and nickel tubes ~ 
Test the tensile strength of the perforated strip crosnwise one 
inch square. Test the nickelphating to see if right angunit: 
put on = test if the nickol 1s welded perfectly to the steel 
af a check against having too low a temperature in the anrieal- 
ing pot. Test wicth of ribbon which should not very between 
agreed limits. test the grinding of the burrs so that the 
hole shall not be too small or too large. Test if the grind= 
ing has been even across the whole width of the strip not more 
on one side than the other, producing large and small holes, 
Soe that the width of the perforated portion of the strip 1s 
always the same, so as to catch any mistake in using a now 
master die. Inspection must be hourly or as often as will 
prevent making any great amount of waste: stock. The steel 
strip 158 very expensive, and any mistake should be auickly 
ascertained to save waste aS well as to insure proper tube 

Tubes should be inspeoted on end to see if proper 

lap, Af proper length and diameter both ends, inside and out, 


if lap is right length of spiral right, and if properly cleaned 
for final use, and this done hourly from machinos. 

That cups are proper as to size and shape and properly 
cleaned for ute. 

Tubes after ends flattened inspected for cracked ends and 
insufficient length for clamping in Grid, or not flat, also 
Spacing of rings, tightness, otc. 

A certain number daily of the tube rings from each batch 
daily must be tested in test machine for tensile strength, 
inspected for niokel plating, calliper thickness of stock, 
burrs, width. : 

The caps used in ends of tubes inspected for calilper, 
plating and cleanliness, | 

The ends of the tamps in tube loading machines inspected 
to be sure they are not wearing noticeably and thoy are to be 
replaced if worn beyond an agreed amount, also if the contour 
of the end is appreciably worn, or if the end has roughened 
as if not polished, it broake the flake and makes a bad tube. 

The calliper of the molds should be inspected at least 
twice a month to see that the ‘holes are not worn in spots or 
aB a whole. 7 , 

The Company will fnspect the filling machines even if 
worked by contractors, the Company furnishing a traveling ine 
speoctor to pass along machines and see that all are feeding 
right and call contractors attention to sticking tamps and 
bad feeds, The night inspector to be under the day inspector 


and both under the Inspection Dept. The contractor has no 
control of these inspectors, they are on tolled for this 
specific job. I propose Walter Archer for this job, as he 
has had seven years experience. 

Twenty or more finished tubes are to be taken each day, 
the nuniher to be agreed uyon, aut ‘open and tested for eya and 
@lectrical contacts. 

A traveling inspector will test for aalliper, ete., all 
parts being made by screw machines, other machines te stop 
instantly any preduction of bad parts by wear or displacement 
of tools, Alay punchings, crid, ate., can in course cf 
manufacture, welding. ALL parts made in shop are to be brought 
into the inapector's room daily and inspected upon zgreed 
gauges ‘and turned into the stock room - probably same system — 
as is now in vogue at Phonograph Works ~ don't want to delay 
inspection to find several hundred parts wrong before it is 
found out. Every inspeotor onalil have his mark either to go 
on ihe article or on the box, showing that he has passed it, and 
nothing goes into stock room without mark or slip that it is 
passed and in 0. KX. to be given out.» 

All assembled tube plates finivhed shall be inspected for 
tichtening of tubes, for cracks in leaf holding tube, for 
rights and lefts, for spacing of rings, for spacing of tubes, 
for flatness of tubes, which must not exceed a cortain amount, 

as it makes short circuits possible, for calliper of grid, etc., 


aS ERT EST Le EEE EET a eee ORS ol 
On I ge pe ee me 

and particularly burrs on holes in erid where connected to 
poles. Sane to apply to tron plates if pockets not loose, 

for pockets badly fitted, for proper corrugating and prosaing, 
for flatness, for thickness of pockets, which must not excead 

a certain amount, otherwise there is danger of bulging the 

can, a& the several irons when too thick bulge the whole CRBC 
of grids, especially if tubes are hot flat enough, and makes 
assembling difficult. 

Tho iron pockets after filling to be inspected as well 
for weight, soft ends, and flaws in cups, closing in, oto. 

It is very essential that the hole, both in iron and 
nickel grids, through which the pole pieces pass, shall be freo 
of burrs and very fiat and that the washer also should be very 
flat. Othorwise, when a cell is asnembled, the area of con» 
taat will bo lessened, and if there is any burr or the wapher 
is not flat and smooth, the contact or current will only pass 
through a fow points and as current on a hill is very heavy, 
thene points will heat and the resistarioe of the cell increased 
enormously, and in some cases fail to Grive the vahicle, This 
is one of the most particular parts of the cell, 

Many dismantled cells of old type show that instead of 
grid touching washer all over, it only touched in a few spots, 
All parts of the cell should be inspected for perfect 
nickel plating, and what is as important, that the welding ane 
nealing prooess should have been carried out at such a temperae 
ture that there is a good weld. I have found several cases 
where tubes have not been through the annealing process and 


in one case where ‘they have never been nickel plated. 
~ Inspection of the knives for cutting flake 

should take place constantly; also the squares should be 
inspected for pure (if the knife gets dull it makes a 
bur and then it isvery difficult to separate the flakes 
after copper has been eaten away). ‘hin in a very im- 
portant point - sharp kni¥es - no bur. 

All flakes should be inspected before given out - 
inspected for books and loading weight. 

All nickel hydroxide should be inspected for 
dirt; for sizing. Alno the crushing devices inspected 
50 that too much fines are not made, as these must be 
returned to Chenioal Works to be worked over again at 
considerable exymsen, without the crushing and sizing 
devices are constantly inspected = these fines will run 
up +. Also, the drying of the green must be inevected, 
the green should be perfootly dry before use. 

The green should not show any fine float dust 
after rendy for maghines, as this prevents green from 
flowing even in the chutes. : | 

All rubber parts as received from factory must ; 
pass thru inspection dept. to am agreed guuge - as well : 4 
as the separators which should be returned to inspection 
dept. for inspection as to size. The sheets from which 
they are cut should be inspected as to size before being : i 
given out for cutting. the cutting machine for outting : i 

separators should be watohed for temperatures and sharp- 


ness of knives so there shall be no bus. 

All rubber parts should be treated in the hypo- 
chlorite sal und sy stem devised so that no rubber can 
get into sian to be worked up unless it has been treated 
in the hypo-solution. It is parti qularly necessary to 
have a full assembly gauge to gauge the side hard rubbers 
to see that the slots are in proper po sition and to hold 
the rubber prople up to an allowed vari ation, as they 
are very liable to change their compound and temperatures 
of vulcanization and give us distorted pieces which 
makes ussembling of cell difficult und makes a bad crook- 
ed bunch of plates with liability to short oircuits. 
Rvery week one sample part of each large shipment should 
be sent to Goldstein for analysis to see if they are not 
putting in deleterious substanoes,. 

Every bunch of cell plates before putting 
in the can should be passed by an inspector and finally 
before welding the top on, inspected ugain. Also ine 
spected for ponition of separators, side pieces and see 
if pieces are marked right, if bottom piece is in, if thin 
sheets me in position, if plates are sorewed fast, eta. 

All cans should be ins oted, tested and pass- 
ed before the elements are put in. 

One of the most dangerous things ip the use of 

wrong solutions in cells. we kinds of solu ion is now us 


ed, 219% KOH with strong Lithia for new cells, and 25% 

KCH with weak Lithia, to send out for renewing nolutions 
of cells already out, if by mistake the strong lithia 
“solution is sent out for renewing the cells will be ruin- 
ed. Hence, there must be devined a system whereby this 
never can take place; muarking plainly whut is in the can 
does no good, os renewal solutions have been shipped 

from Works with 42% KOH, and notwithstanding the fact that 
the can was marked Ss as ~ 4195 KOH. 

i suggest all renewal solution be shipped from 
the Laboratory at present, wnd always shipped in small 
cans and thut an inspector from the Works comes over, 
tests the specific gravity and gee it put on wagon for 
shipment, and that only one grade of KOH be sent to battery 
vorks - if there in any mistake, ve wan then spot ‘ite 

The machinery for the new tray will be ready and 
ve set up;in about three weeks in a month we should be 
making them. Whese will ve ‘ade’ in jigs and special 
machinery. thepaerts as being made should be inspected 
and the trays aft@ finishing, should be insp ected and 
no crate-of cells ev & shipped out without the inspec- 
tor's mark thereon. | 

We will furnish 9 tank and material ‘to dip the 
parts of the tray before assembling. Your tool room 
should make the dies, etc., for the von parts connected 
to the trays¢ - 

~ Je 


l have rigged up a temporary place for mamfag- 
turing the dope and will furnish it from the Laboratory. 

4t is essential that the goon noua be thorough 
ly seasoned, if not it changes our dipping so it eannot 
be used. 

The Aickel hydroxide varies considerable in 
cupacity - some batches give high capacity und some low. 
lience, when a set of cells hae been tested they should be 
aesorted as to capacity as near as possible so sxamkx all 
the cells of a group should be alike. 

fhe test cells should be filled to o predeter- 
mined point and allowed to soak for «a predetermined number 
of hours, then any water put in shoul d be put in by the 
signalling filler, so they all Have ths same height, 
thus reducing the slopping out of solution and reducing 
the srecific grarity. Heretofore, cells hwe been ship- 
ped out with varying specific gravities - this should be 
stopped and nu predetermined method adopted so they will 
go aut with not less than 20% KOH. ‘he tops while teste 
ing should be kept clean. 

: The connectors, poles, und lugs should be thor- 
oughly inspected and watched all through the shap, and 
finally in the test room for good contact and detection 

of any changes by wear of tools, which should lower the 
area of contact and thus produce heat and loss of voltage 
on heavy discharge. 


As soon us the new crate is fully adopted, the 
operation on the cans of the boss on the sides and also 
the indentations on the bottom can be given up, but not 
until the new trays receive general approval outside. 

the iron parts on the tray need not be nickel- 

plated as the dope prevents rusting. 


I suggest that the two principal men who have charge of 
the preparation of the tube and cup stock be given a contract to 
Prepare this stock and have all supplies and labor charged to them, 
as well as the steel and tool room work, so that they shall be, in 
fact contractors and pay for all spoiled raw stock, That we set 
a price 40% lower than what the cost is now to us, and then 
Guarantee wages and agree that this price shall hold for one year ,- 
and they to make all they can above wages; that the work must be 
in quality as per inspectors instructions and that any excess 
earnings be paid for monthly, 

All stock they use to remain in stock room and they only 
take out what is daily needed, which is charged to them, Work in 
progress will be inspected by our inspector, but this not to relieve 
contractors from being charged with bad work, 

That if contractors desire some special device to cheapen 
work, that it will be made at cost and charged to them and paid for 
out of their profits, and if it is successful the Company will 
refund the money when the contract expires, If the contractors 
fail to improve and cheapen the work the Company to have the right 
to rescind the understanding on giving thirty days notice, ‘The 
Company reserves the right to object to any men used by the contractor 
which they have reason to believe is incompetent, or can be replaced 
by a more competent man, All work done in tool room, repairs, 
etc, to be churged contractors with General Expense added, as well 

as cost of stock, 

Note ‘Two 

I think a large saving could be made by having either the 
Laboratory of Phono Works furnish pipe fitters, carpenters eto, 
for particular jobs when wanted, The tendency of each works is to 
keep a carpenter and fitter for odd jobs; when these odd jobs in 
the course of a month might not take a week, Menare taken on for 
arush job and are not laid off, The men always find something to 
hold on to, If any department wants a job done let them make out 
a requisition for man and then, having previously arranged with 
Laboratory or Phono. Works, the job can be done by their men and 
charged to the Company, In this way we can carry carpenters, 
blacksmiths, pipe fitters etc, at one point and keep them all busy. 
It is the same way with laborers, There should be a general 
laboring gung from which each of the works can draw from, for , 
particular jobs. 

I think that the making of tubes and cups should be let 
out to two contractors working together as one contractor-on same 
basis as the strip and that all spoiled work and not passing 
inspection, should be charged them eto, 

If either of. these two contracting gangs want to have 
included as partners of a tool-maker in tool room to insure cheaper 
repairs to them,- they to have the privilege; his wages then being 

charged to them, on their jobs, — 

Note Three 

I think the tube filling job should be contracted out 
to three partners, two on days and one on nights. All spoiled work 
to be paid for, They delivering tubes, ringed and complete to us 
ready to ussemble in batteries. Also they are to pay a set fine 
per 100 tubes when the electrical tests show an uverage varig¢ation 
bewteen the highest and lowest capacity of the tubes, of more than 
75 mil. amp. hours; or in lieu of this, when the percentage of 
split tubes falls below a certain average for flake contructs by 

eye and by electric contact testing machine 

Note Four 

I think the whole can job could be put on contract 
with two partners, 

Ditto:- The screw machine parta, 

Flake plunt including cutting sheets in squares, 
disolving out copper ana delivering over falke to the. Company 
for a fixed alin We charging current and all supplies, the 
quality to be of a certain kind, to be determined by agreed 

tests,- all repairs paid by contractor, 

Note Five 

A complete stock list book should be started for raw 
stock and finished stock bought outside, and a minimum amount 
agreed upon, below which if it falls, it must be replenished by 
new Gedadat This minimum will depend upon the daily output and 
also the time required to obtain new supplies after the stock 

has fallen to a minimum, 

No experimental machine suall be mude at the battery 
works, thismust ull come thru the Engineering Department of the 
general works at the Laboratory. If wu new Machine is proposed 
or improvements in present machines desired it is to be put up to 
the Engineering Department at the Laboratory for solution; 
designing and making and setting up experimenting and turning 

over a completed job. 

Note Seven 

It is my opinion that somebody is stealing nickel metal 
from the Works, Get from Silver Lake all the patallic nickel 
sent to us and those bought outside and credit all the returned 
sorap, Then take stock on hand, as near as possible, and account 
for niokel in cells, as falke and Plating and see how it checks, 

Hereafter charge out the nickel to Plating Dept. and 
credit scrap and flake and see that scrap is kept, so that it 

Cannot be stolen, 

Note Kight 

AS soon as possible, devices for saving the nickel and 
copper, now lost in the wash wuter should be aban ted , If we 
buy outeide anodes for regular plating baths, it should be stopped 
and we should make then diracives: Siiver Lake can manufacture 
the Wicker: Adnbnton sulphate cheaper than we can buy ie. 

We should arrange with the buyer of the Phono, Wroks to 
do our buying, it is folly to buy of dealers instead of first hands. 
We pay 25% more for everything than we should, also we buy the same 
thing in smell lots every month from sinall dealers instead of ffom 
the factory for a fair supply. 

We should buy our oi] from the Standard O11 Co. and find 
out just what grades we want, and don't change, because every oil 
salesman telis us a lot of stuff, When we buy our lumber for 
crates, buy enough for two months and on specifications as to 
seasoning and quality with the right to reject it if not up to 

Every wan in the shop seems to be wanting something all 
the time; lots of things are ordered that are not essential, They 
oredr stuff when it is already in the stock-room, because the stuck 
clerk don't know what he hus from any record, but only from memory, 
All orders should be sorutinized, if seen to that theyare needed 
or something we have will ao, These small orders amount monthly 
to a large sum, as I can see from the checks and bills presented 
to me. 

Our stationary seems to be ordered in small lots without 
bid; this shoud be stopped, I think all our large running orders 
should be presented to the purchasing departmeht of the works to 

Note Tight Page Two 

ket eRe ee ere ete tr eer eran tar a 

see what they can do before we close each contract. That 
department cah charge us for time spent on our work. 

fake up with J, V. Miller at Silver Lake the subject 
of utilizing our scrap from punching grids, can cutting serap and 

tube and pocket scrap, with uw view of utilizing it for making 

Iron Mix for ov113, 



Large amount of mattor printed 
in newspapers and magazines, writ- 
ten by non=technical men, making 
I! olaims for the Edison Battery which 

no electrical engineer would con- 
sider seriously, but which the pub- 
lio accept without question. 

Battery still in experimental 
stage. Never has been used gen= « 
erally by the public. Manufac- 

7 turers new in the field and pub- 
Ke Z- lio unfamiliar with principlos on 
which battery operates. 


If battery develops any troubles 
eS it must be shippod back to the man- 
ufacturers for repairs. 

Past record of the battery 
well known, : 
Used by more than 90% of the 
Electric Vehicle Manufacturers 
who have tested the Edison 
Douory but have not adopted 

Battery has been generally 

used for ton years. Manufac- 
turers have had 21 years -ex- 
perience in battery manufacture. 
Trained men familiar with this 
type of battery scattered 
throughout the country. 

Battery oan be repaired in 
practically every city in the 
U. S. Repair parts carried in 
stock at convenient points. 

——_BEOCK 8 

2 Watt-hour efficiency 50%, Re- Watt-hour officioncy 75%. 
f quires 40% more curront then the 
Exide" to oharge. oo 
a o Average voltage per coll 1,2 i Average voltage per cell 
> volts. 1.96 volts. 
ee reeneanrrane ARITA IS 
é Requires 40 cells for 48 volt Requires 24 cells for 48 
motor. no Vit motor. 
Weight per cell 19.5 lbs, Weight, por -ooll 34-1/4 Ibs, 
7 4 Total woight of battery 780 lbs. Total woight of battery 822 lbs, 

Nena cee te aR PRA TAREE US EUAN es PTH 

Requires flushing (adding water 
& to Eeplace evaporation) twice a 


"Sg ya q Internal resistance of entire 

battery .129 ohms. : 

Loss of voltage due to internal 

D) resistance at 45 amperes discharge 
| rate, 5.8 volts or 11.6% of the 

battery voltage. 

Loss of voltage at 100 ampere . 
discharge rate, 26.9% of the bat- 
tery voltage. 

Roquires flushing once in 
ten days or two weeks+ 

ot. D eeememene nent one emeneadicall 

Internal resistance of en- 
tire battery .042 ohms. 

Ne A ante 

Loss of voltage due to in- 

ternal resistance at 45 amperes 

discharge rate, 1.89 volts or 

3.84% of the battery voltage. 
Loss of voltage at 100 am- 

pere discharge rate, 8.75% 

of the battery voltage. 

C euntRRReeteeeet on neil 

it cv Horse=power delivered to motor 
on 100 ampere discharge = 4.7 

Horse-porer delivered to 

‘ motor on 100 ampere discharge = 



Ampere discharge required to 

: Ampore discharge required to 
develop 5.87 H.P. = 125. = 

devolop 5.87 H.P. = 100. 



Orange, N. J. 


Regarding the installation of Edison Storage Batteries you propose using with 
s furnished by the é 

Company, the Edison Storage Battory Company guarantoos that such batteries for a 
poriod of threo years shall be capable, under normal conditions, of developing within 
10% of the rated oapacity of the battery (type A-4, 150 ampere hours; Type A-6, 225 
ampere hours; Type A-8, 300 ampore-hours); and should the battory fall below such 
guaranteed rating during said period the Company will rebate to the purchaser a pro 
rata amount of the list price corresponding to the unexpired portion of the guaranteed 
period of three yoars, provided always that the instruotions as to tho handling and 
use of the battery apponded hereto shall in all respects be carried out, and that 
access to the batteries shall be allowed to the Company's inspector at all reasonable , 

Experierience having shown that when deterioration in capacity takes place either 
from unnecessary overheating during charge, or from want of care in keoping cells olean 
and free Prom contamination, it is due to the nickel element, the Company agrees to 
make one renewal of the nickel element for one hal? of the list price of the battery. 



NOTZ:This guarantee will not bind the Company unless signed by the President, or Vioo~ 
President, and countersigned and sealed by the Seorotary thereof. 

1. On receipt of battery inspect cells immediately to make sure tho electrolyte has 
not beon spilled in transit, If any oolls are found without solution one-half inch or | 
more below tho platex tops, fill it with distilled water immediately to one-half inch 
above the plate tops and hold it out of commission until new elootrolyte can be obtain 
ed from the Edison Storage Storage Battery Co. The original solution must then be en- 
tirely removed from the celland the new solution put in to the proper height of 1/2" 

+o 5/8" above plate tops. 








Cells are shippod in a discharge condition and must be given an overcharge of 15 
hours at normal rate before using. This overcharge must be repeated after every 
12 or 15 regular discharges, or the equivalent thoreof, until four over charges 
have been given; thereafter the battery must be given the 15 hour overcharge about 
once in two months. 

The rates of both charge and discharge herein referred to as "normal" shall be the 
following: A~-4 type oell, 30 amperes; A-6 type cell, 45 amperes; A-8 type coll, 
60 ampores. 

As to regular charging, if this is done at constant ourront, make the rate normal 
to two-thirds normal, but not lower or higher; except that on a "boosting" charge 
of short duration the rate may be increased to any dosired valuo not higher than 
twice-normal, In casos where a "tapering" charge is given, the rate may be star- 
ted at 1-1/2 normal and finishing at 1/2 normal if desired. 

The normal length of charge is taken as 7 hours, but this may be varied to meot 
the sorvice requirements. This should be governed also by the work on the previous 
discharge. Where an ampore-hour meter is used on the vohiole or the output can 

be made from the ampere and time readings, the charge should be made from 20 to 
30% greater than the previous output ( in ampere hours) in order to bring the bat~ 
tory to the stato of full charge again. 

A battery may be discharged continually at any rate up to 25% above normal provided 
the conditions are not such as to cause heating in excess of the maximum allowable’ 
discharge temperature of 115° F, For occasional short intervals of time, as in 
climbing hills or starting on heavy roads, ho harm will result if the rate be in- 
craased to threo or four times normal. 

Do not allow the temperature of a battery to oxcoed 106° F, during charge or 115° 
during discharge, excopt for short intervals. Kegp cells as cool as possible 
during charge, not at a tomporature lowor than 60° F. howovor. 

Use nothing but puro distilled water for filling cells. Drinking wator contains 
injurious impurities and postively must not be used, Fill cells as often as is 

' necossary to maintain solution level at the propor height of 1/2" to 5/8! above 



the plate tops. Do not Pill the cells above the propor hoight, and nevor allow 
the solution to got below the plate tops. aear 

Once in 8 or 9 months of continuous service or tho equivalent length of time of 
intermittont service, the solution must. be omptied from all of the cells of a 
battory, and they must be immediatoly filled to the proper height with the fresh 
electrolyte put up by the Edison Storago Battery Company for this purpose. Special 
care must be taken to renew the solution of every cell because if any cell is over~ 

looked, it will cause subsequent trouble. Never, undor any conditions, must any 
acid be put into a cell. 

The trays and the outside of the rotaining cans should be kept olean and dry at 

all times; otherwise there may be a leakage of current from oan to can, oausing 

an electrolyte action which in time may start a leak in the cell. The tops of the 
cells, also must be kept free from foreigh matter, as the Company cannot be respon- 
ible for the action of any battory which has become polluted with an impurity. For 
this reason the filling apertures of the cells must be kept olosed at all timeo, 
except during the filling operation. Great caro should be taken that nothing leaks 
through the floor of the vehiole on to the battery, whioh might get into the cells 
and produce unknown results, o 


11. An ocoasional inspection for bad contacts at tho colls polos should be made by 
feeling the connector at each pole, while the battery is charging. If any such 
bad contact oxists, it will be discoverod by the abnormal heating of the connector 
and pole. Any poor contact must be remidied by removing the connector and clean- 
ing both contact surfaces with fine emery oloth or sandpaper, as the hoating might 
possibly bo so great as to bring the whole oe11 to an injurious temperature. 

12. If for any reason colls are removed from the trays care should be taken in oon- 
necting up again, that all cells are connected in series; that is with the postive 
pole of one connected to the negative pole of the next, and so on throughout the 
battery. If a cell is put in with the poles reversed it not only does not work 
itself but nullifies the voltago of another cell and also is liable to permanent 

NOTE: To prevent mistakes in carrying out the above instructions, the battories should 
be always placed in the caro of intolligent and competent employoes. 


A 1. Instructions made a part of the guarantee. Any violation of the instructions 
legally relieves the Edison Company from guarantee. 

2. Provision made for a new set of positive plates to be furnishod at 50% of the list 
prices of the entire battery. Evidently this applies only in case the owner of 
the battery by vidlating the instructions, relieves the Edison Company of its 
guarantee but it indicates a tendency on the part of the positivo plates to deter- 

B iorate., The battery must be shipped to the Edison Factory at Oyange, N. J., which 
moans that the owner would be without the use of his car not only during the time 
the repairs are being made but atso during the time the battery is in transit to 
and from Orange. The battery is also liable to damago in transit. 


Taking-up tho points brought out in thoir instructions in the order in which they 
appear we would oall attention to the first paragraph, which states that batteries 
must be shipped with their oleotrolyto in thom and if any eleotrolyte is lost, the 
‘batteries must be held out of commission until new electrolyte can be prooured. It 

is almost impossible to ship any kind of battery containing electrolyte and-be sure 
that all of the olectrolyte will be in the cells upon ite recoipt. : H 

We have understood that it is very dangerous to attempt to operate Edison Batter ios 
when the tops of the plates aro not entirely covered by the electrolyte, since there 
is a tendency for the current to aro are across the plato tops when exposed to air, 
and causes the mixture of gases to explode. This we believe has happoned in a 

ra number of oases. : 

In the fourth paragraph, thero are many times when the exact rates of current, 
specified cannot be ‘omployed; fluctuations of voltage of changing from the end 

of a line will sometimes make it necessary to charge at low rates. The inferdncoos 
from the fourth paragraph is that this must nover be done. 


In the 6th paragraph when a battery is in service it takes ourrent dependent upon 
the load, grade and road conditions, as. well as other factors; as to whether the 
rate is more than 25% greater than normal or not, leaves room for argument to day 
the loast. Also it is not oustomary for the user of an electric vehicle to make . 
regular temporature readings of his batteries during tho time he is charging it in 
his automobile, 


-4- + 



In the 7th paragraph, caution of course could be exercisod to keep the temperature 
below 105° F. by stopping the charge entirely until the tomperature comes down and 
then continue it at tho specified*rate. It will not bo possible, however, under 
the fourth paragraph to reduce the current to a low value, as in the oase of a lead 
cell, : 

The conditions imposed by the 8th paragraph would in many oases be difficult to live 
up to, since water of ordinary commercial purity could not be allowed evon occasion- 

ally. : | 

Tho bother entailed by living up to paragraph 9 will to a greater or less extent 
offset the necessity for cleaning the sediment from the jars of a load battery at 
intervals of approximately the same length of timo. 

Paragraph 10 emphasizes the necessity for keeping a battery assembled in metal 
jars in an insulated condition, 

Paragraph 11 would tond to show that the bolt connectors used in the make-up of 
the Edison batteries aro not very reliable. A contact bad enough to produce a ~ 
riso in tomperature which can be discovered by feeling it with the hand is very 
apt to cause an aro which might explode the battery. 


The caution embodied in paragraph 12 applies to any kind of a battery. 

It has been olaimed that the Edison battory is "Pool-proof", but the instructions 
indicate that it requires more attention and more expert attention than doos the 

There are two most important differences betweon the Edison battery and the "Exide". - 

The in-efficiency and high internal resistanco of the Edison battery is a groat handi~ 
cap in hilly countries. Although the Edison battery is rated at 225 ampero hours as 
against 162 ampero hours for the "Exide" battery (Edison 45-ampores for 5 hours 
Exide 32.4 amperes for 5 hours) yet the high internal resistance of the Edison bat- 
tery so reduces the voltage delivered to the motor that an oxcessive amount of our- 
rent is required to drive the vehicle up a hill.and the spoed of the machine is s 
reduced, in proportion to the reduction in voltage. The net result of higher current 
demand and longer time required to climb the hill ig a dissipation of the excess < ~~ 
capacity of the batteries in a hilly countrios the "Exide" battery will give as much 
or more milage por charge than the Edison and‘at 28-1/2% less cost for current. . 
The same conditions obtain where froquent stopping and starting is necossary; as in 
city driving, An actual test in Detroit, Miohigan, a level and woll paved oity, 
showed that in ordinary city work the Edison battery gave only 6 miles moro per char ge 
than tho "Exide". We frequontly read newspaper accounts of runs of 125 to 160 miles 

.with an Edison battery. Theso wore all made under the most favorable conditions, 
‘On the other hand private owners of stock oars in level cities like New Orleans, 

Detroit, Chicago, oto. are regularly obtaining from 85 to 95 miles per charge and 
in hilly cities like Atlanta, Kansas City, Cincinnati, oto. are obtaining from 50 
to 60 miles with standard "Exide" batteries. On special test runs "Exide" bat- 
tories have made as high as 115 to 125 miles per charge. 

The difference in cost of the two types of battery is greatly in favor of the "Exide". 
Assuming a complote renewal of both positive and negative plates in the "Exide" bat- 
tery to be requires every 18 months and a renewal of sediment evory 9 months - much { 
more than is usually necessary - and assuming that the Edison battery will outlive 

the 3 year period guarantoo without renowal of plates we have the following comparison, 

* Charging. “5+ 

Differonce in first cost 600.00 

Renewal of electrolyte once 

a year for 3 years @ $50. 150.00 

Cost of charging at $7.70 
per month for 3 years 277.20 


In tho above figures we have given the Edison batter 
We have assumod that no repairs would be no 
other than the annual renewal of the electrolyte. On tho other hand, the 
"Exide" battory is charged with two complot 
ings during tho sane period. We know of many instances of "Exide" batteries 

lasting for three years with no ronerals whatever and a still greater number 


Complete renewal of plates 
ence every 18 months for 3 
years, including removal 

of sediment, @ $190. $380.00 

Removal of sediment only for 

3 years at $40.00 180.00 

Cost of ehnygtnis at $5.50 ; 

per mont! 198.00 

y every advantago. 
oded during the threo yoar period 

@ renewals of plates and two clean- 

of cases in which only the positive plates required renewal in that longth of 



1910. Battery - Storage - Federal Storage Battery 
Car Company (D-10-06) 

This folder contains correspondence and other documents relating to 
the technical and commercial development of battery-powered streetcars by 
Ralph H. Beach and his Federal Storage Battery Car Co. Included is 
correspondence by Edison, Beach, and Frank L. Dyer, vice president and 
general counsel of the Edison Storage Battery Co., pertaining to streetcar 
design, performance, manufacture, sales, and promotion. Some of the letters 
express Edison's concern about the exaggerated claims made by Beach 
regarding the life of the Edison storage battery. 

Approximately 80 percent of the documents have been selected. The 
items not selected consist primarily of letters of transmittal, unsolicited 
inquiries, and documents that duplicate information in selected material. 



ive 1. He Beach, 

10 Fifth Ave., 

New York City. 

Dear Sir: 

Your suggestion, that all corrasnondence rolating to 
strect car work and the use of Edison vatterics therefor should 
be enswored by you, is cll right, but, o” course, you must de 
vory corer not to olain to speak outhoritatively for the 
Storage Battery Compeny or to mote ony guerentecs or statencnts 
‘thet we will have to disclaim later. If you have eny douit as 
to whet should do seid, please sec ne. I will be very fled to 
co-operate With you as mich as. possible ané to consult with you 
whenever you wich. 

In this connection, please sce me in reford to the 
Third Avene tangle eas possible. 

Regarding your cuestion es to whet nenc shoulé be siven 
to the car, ir. Edison thinks thet it should be celled the "Beach" 
car or some such nanc, to bo followed with the statenent nipped i 
with Edison Battory". vires Edison does not care to have his namo 
usod in eny othor way. . 

Yours very truly, 

FLD/TWt ‘Vice-Presidont. 

Bobler - re 

Feb 10 1910 
Thos A Edison 4 
Ft Myer aS c 
Fla, ‘ 7 

My dear Mr Edison; 
I have been operationg the car during the last few days on 59th 

st, Not taking fares but to try it out. You will recall that I told you we bent 
one of the axles, This occured last week on Friday in the evening and Mr Lynch 
had allready invited his croud to see the oar in operation and was so scared 
for fear that we would not get the axle in , in case we removed it to straighten 
it that he persuaded me to let it remain as it was until Sunday the time of the 
proposed run, So I did. They all came and we ran over the 59th st line the lst Ave 
line to 125th st and back and forth until they were contented, By setting back one 
of the break shoes so it did not touch the wheel on the beny axle I romoved 
most of the swaying of the body due to the bent axle. The run was satisfactory 
and all complemented me, Senator Clark of Montana was there and was very much pleaded, 

On monday I removed the axle and found it about 1/4 inch out, it was between the 
driven wheel and the sleeve. I am glad to be able to say that the sleeve itsself 
stood up all right. It is now sbraight and in the car and we are running all right. 

I expeot on Monddy next to put the car in regular service on 59th st taking 

Except for the accident to the axle nothing has happened whatever to any part of 
the structure, 
The most trouble I have had is to settle with the various roads the question 
as to who has it first. All want it. I am sure that we have done the right 
thing in letting the Belt Line have it. I did at one time think the 28 st would 
be better but after more careful consideration the Belt line is the best for 
59th st is a broad st, with several curves of large radius , it has one 

6% grade, it runs in a part of the city where good people live. Passes tho 

Plaza and other big hotels and the car is seen by many people who are likely 

to beoome customers, The conditions for operation are good for us , and aford 


; a variety of conditions as above indicated , which of themselves answer the 

questions we have to reply to, All want to know if it will work on grades, ve 
are working on a 6%, We take the curves, so the oar answers the questions better 
than we can, 

Again if we were on 28th st , in oase we should run down we have no means 
of gotting back to the barn. On 59th st are electrio cars to push us in. 

The service is slow and not heavy. Therefore I feel that we are all right as to 
the place. The owners of the road are kindly disposed towards us and want the oar 
to succeed. It is to their interest to have it succeed, 

I meet the old predjudice on account of our light weight , but I feel in 
this respect that we are right, and even we may be able to go lower, 

The motors do not become at all warm. While they look a¥fully small and I find 
it difficult to get used to them myself. They do the business all right so 
ofor the present I will let them alone. 

In case anything turns up that is bad I will let you know . I supposs 
the good things do not interest you muche 

Yours truly. 

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February 18, 1910. 

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Mr Thomes *.8dison, Be 7 a . 

Fort ieyer, Fla. 
ny dear ily Edison; 

I heve your very welcome letter of the 12th instant, end 
note with cere what you heve to say with regerd to tho greater bite 
of the steel wheel; I have no doubt but thet you are entirely cor- 
rect in this, but still there is something clse cbhout the peculiar 
ection of this divided axle thet wo do not kmov. I am not eble to 
prove my view of the matter, but I feel very confident thet there 
is some reletion between the existing tractive force ond thet we 
get end the divided axle, which yet remeinsy to be sccounted for. 

To illustrate; this car vill, on en ordinary track, go 
up a 6% gsrede between 56th end 5eth streets, without slipping a 
wheel, whereas the heavy pey-as-you-enter cars, operating over the 
same track, connected, in the regular menner, with tvo 50HP motors, 
end tho Brill Maximun traction Truck, do slipp e wheel, + have telk- 
ea with Prof.Prior of the Stevens Institute, and he is of the opin- 
ion that there is some relation between the action of the tvo wheels 
of unequal diemeter somethins of this character:- if one wheel heppens 
to have e greeter gripe or bite on the track then the other it will 
of course, when the pover is opplied to it, be the last to slip, the 
one hevins; the lesser pressure slipping first, end it being ettached 
to the first one, adds its momentum to the slip of the second one, 
I must confess thet the thing is not very clear to me, but the fact 
remeins thet there is something queer ebout it. One thing ve sre 
all. right on---the tvo motors gives us all the trection we went, 
and of this I em very glad to inform you. 

I note your suggestion es to the use of kerosene burners end 
heve been trying them; from ol11 I cen see et present it works first 
rate, but I heve been so very busy letely thet I heve not heat time 
to try out the kerosene burners ‘thoroughly, and es _the season of the 
year is nov approaching when we do not need heat, 1 think we can 
let thet go wmtil later, end try it out during the summer months, 
in the meantime I hseve succeeded in finding a hot water heater com- 
yeeros including everything end the total weight is only 150 pounds, 

his seems to be rretty good, although I am trying to get at a reduct- 
ion of weight, with consistent heat efficiency end durability. 

I fully egree with you that we have plenty of opportunity to 
reijuce the current still further; in fect what we do not Imow- about 
this car would fil] e good sized book. The investigation thet I heve 
mode so far have been very crude, end I believe it #oeally impossible 
to get any reasonebly correct data without automoti¢irecording instru- 
ments, and as soon as possible I will get them and put them on the car 




end let them remain for a considerable time. I want to get a re- 
cording watt-meter, and a recording grade meter, as well as a 
recording speed meter. If we cen get an ectual record from these 
three instruments, it should give us the best idea of what we ore 
really doing. 

I believe we will also find thet we have not got the right 
motors; ve must, by working the motor at tho first two steps, add 
a lot of efficiency, end inasmuch as practically all our work is done 
on these two stops, I think we should look carefully to this par- 
ticular point for improvement in the motors. 

In the matter of getting the cer lighter, I lmow now where 
we can reduce the weight by 500 pounds. I do not see how we can 
do better than that now. Yotwithstanding I hope and am striving 
by considerable effort, to continue to reduce the weight. 

I heve carefully watched the action of the body, to see if 
there hes been any starting in ony direction of the lettice stecl 
girder, which you will remember we placed under the soats, end is 
really the "meat" of this car body. So far 1 heve been unable to 
discover the slightest yielding of any of the parts, although I heve 
been driving the cer with a bent axle, vhich of course has subjected 
it to unusual strains, so much so in fact thot it was difficult to 
stand up in the car when the car wes in motion beceuse it syveyed 
so badly. This was done, intentionolly of course, to sce whet the 
steel sirder would do under such rection. 

One point whore I discoyer I made a mistake: I aid not give 
the axle sufficient ond play. <“n_setting the axles into the journals 
I forgot to ellow any end play. This of course made the wheels elimb 
the curves. I wondered about this a good deal, and finally woke up 
to the fact that I had forgotten to give the end play, but I have 
finally teken out the thrust-plates, so as to allow 1/4" end play, 
this beings ebout the usual esmount of play trucks ere allowed. 

The other day iir Dyer got a letter from our mutual friend 
whitridge, which Mr Dyer very Kindly referred to me for reply. 
I enclose herewith copy of my reply to lir hitridge, snd elso 
copy of his letter to tir Dyer. Now of course I did not want to 
offend Mr “hitridge, but there finelly comes a time, in such cases, 
when, in order to meintain your manhood, you have to strike back, 
For the last month he has been continually saying unkind end un~ 
truthful things in regard to myself. I have been particularly careful 
in any communication vith him or his people to remein ever silent 
or when compelled to talk to say only agreeable things, but it seemed 
to me finally thet the situation had gotten at thet point where 
it required something more serious from me, so I wrote the enclosed 
letter. In this letter I heve told the cbsolute truth, and I can 
prove every word of it. JI hope the letter will meet with your epproval, 
It is pretty long and I do not lmow if it is necessary for you to 
roed it, but you will find it interesting if you do read it, 


10 FIFTH AVE, . 

About the business; I have sola three cars. vo to ir Joslyn 
and one to e compeny at Springfield, Ills. I think during the next 
two or three weeks we will sell ton cers to the 28th & 29th Street 
road. This is a very good place upon which to try out the cars, 
and here wo will learn more then we know about them et this time, 

I heve hed o great many inquiries, most of which geen to be of o ser~ 
ious nature, from serious minded people, from which I judge, they 
really mean to buy cars. They clearly indicate e considerable demand 
for this type of car, sna I really believe that you will find it very 
difficult to meet the demand for cnr batteries with your present 
battery plant, in addition to whet you are already doing to meet the 
demand of batteries for other pruposes, 

With best wishes and trusting you are enjoying your stay in 
Florida, I am, 

Very truly yours, 



ao Pv. Be 
rr fone ee * & 4° acts 
: i ie 
Frederick ‘.Whitridge, Receiver, ty “0 
L50th Street and Sra Avenue, New York, Vor, 

Pebruary 9th, 1910, 

Mr Pranic L.Dyer, 

; Vice-President, Edison Storage Battery Company, 
Orange, New Jersey. 

aly deor Sir: 

I have yours of the 8th instent in reply to my letter of 
the 28th ultomo to tir Edison. I do not thinit there is any misunder- 
standing between me end Hr Beach at all, itr Beach came to mo 2 good 
many months ago and proposed that I shoulda try the Edison storage 
battery on my lines. I told hin that I hed been a director in the 
Edison Storage Battery Compeny for some years ag the representative of 
some of your principal stockholders, end I was quite ready to try 
the car, provided he would buila one and give it to me for exyo ri- 
mental purposes end without any expense, I won't underteke to 
enumerate the number of promises in respects to the delivery of that 
car which iir Beach Broke, but they were a srest many. 

Tvo or three months ego he actuelly got to work on the con- 
struction of © car, ly Engineer, iir Mulleney, wes put ot his dispo- 
sition, and I authorized the peinting of the car end the equipment 
of the car with a number of appliances, on the theory that the 
car was to be delivered to me as soon as completed. bout oa fortnight 
ego ilr Beach turned up egain and said that he wanted some money, 
which was not in eccordence with his original agreement. I asked 
him how much he wanted and he saia $6500.00, which I said I would 
pay- $2000.00 on his signature to e contract and the balance on 
delivery of the car. He then asked whot sort of contract I wanted, 
and we discussed the terms, fortunately in the presence of my 
General ienager, lr siaher, end iiy Mullaney, ond Nir Beach acquiesced 
in 11 of those terms; one of thom was that I should have the car for 
& veriod of sixty days to try out. The next day his attorney sent 
on agreement up here which wes in flet violation of everyone of the 
torms he hed sgreed upon the day before, 

Under the circumstences, you will perceive that I cennot have 
eny more dealings with Mr Beach, except to collect from him tho amount 
of money which he induced me to spend upon "his" car. 

I em going sway myself for a few weeks, ond if during my absence 
you should choose to deliver the cer here, lir iiaher, my Genoral Manager, 
will take it in eccordance with our originel understending. I moy edd 
that it has come to my knowlodge that instead of delivering the car 
to me, os he agreed, Beach has mede promises to deliver it to pretty 
much every one else on earth, and most of thewpnersons to whom he 
has agreed to deliver it, neither now heve, nor to the best of my know. 
ledge and belief, cen within any mensurable time obtain ony consider~ 
able sum of money. Of course tho fundamental difficulty with ur Reach 
was that he misrepresented his position in respect to wr Edison. 

Yours truly, 
(Sga) F.W.whitridge, 

“4 Sees 


Feb 1th 1°19 
brodorick  ‘hitridr¢e Recoivor 
Third Ave Railvay Conpany 
180th st & 3rd Avo 

‘Dear Bir; , : 
Your Lottor of the 9th inot to tr Frank L Dyer V P, Fdison Storare 

Battery Borpany , at Orango NJ, has boon refered to the writor for reply. 
Your lot!er seors to require a dotailed anavcr in order to oloar up any 
doubt, a 
It io unfortunate that it requires many vords to male it cloar, but it 
ought to be clear and wo can afford to use a fow oxtra words to male Ait 00. 
As to any ninpundorstanding betweon uas- I do not think that thero io Onye 
. Tha orfiginal understanding was that you should have tho car as scon as it was 
conpleted; that’ was the undoraotanding and all of it, 
No details what over vere steeds agreed upon or even hinted at ecithor by 
you or tho writer, ; 
Your having -boon a dirootor of *ho Edison Storage Battery Company ion beside 
tho mark and doos not onter into this nattor . 
’ You say that it was provided that I should budid a@ oar and “ive it to you 
Lor oxporinental purposes without any oxpenco, I prosume that you intended 
to cay “ oxpenoe eithor to you or to your company on account of ‘purchase of the 
car, ‘ : a 
In this statoment you. ana, Bit only entirely and absolutely wrong, in that 
we uovor , prior to our tast mooting, oven discussed the question of expenco. 
ono way or tho othor or oven renotoly hinted at it, but it goon without saying 
that such would have beon an unhoared of arrarigonont, the vory costly 
manufacture of tho Pirot oar and delivery | to you for no consideration, : 
"In reopeot to the delivory of tho car;z- as to ny promises , which you cay 
you will not undertake to ‘enumorato how many I havo made and brokon, bet that 


they vero vory ONY» r heg to ‘say that no promises wero ever mado , cither to you 

or any voprosontative of. ‘yours or your CORPONY » in nepal to the delivery of thig 

or any othor a ne ne , oxcept that- os soon as eodesiac I would dolivar and n 

rire aay eee ee ee 


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car to you, ad thio promiue ‘was , of course, based upon our moking a fair and 
reasonablo bargain which you have refused to make or cvon concider, 

You oay that threo or four months ago that  sotually got to work on tho oar, 

In fact T was at work on the oar more thon. eighteen rontho ago and carried on, 
at much oxponce, nany exporinonts to dotormine how to build a oar of this 
charactor , at the Edison Vo ke whore it is well known . Tho faot that in this 
statement yeu have plainly orred is sub joot to positive domonstrations , 

You say that your engineor , Lr iullanoy , was put at ny dispos*tion e This is 
the first timo I havo over hoarod of it, I nover asked for hin or his services, 
No did froquentily oall on me both at my office and at the works while I waa 
‘developing the dotails of this last car. Ho hac nover made ono acceptable 
suggestion in rogard to the construction of tho car, its invention or dovolopoment 
-oxce;t to commend favorably tho work as it progrossoed and to sond over to na’ : 
at the works some small supplies which aro standard and sormon to nearly all onrs 
exoopt the tivo draw heads; he also sent over , at his om suggestion, twp 
painters and the paint for the oar, 

‘fou say that about a fortnight ago I "Turnod up" and Wayted some monoys 
This statement whilo it is true is miajloading. It io true that T an aljrayo 
vanting MONOYs The Third Av Railway Company and I aro in tho Bone boat in that 
recspeote : a / 

The facte in rocard to this aros- the evoning before the morning of ny 
lant visit to you, your Mr Mullanoy onlled on no at the works and then and thore 
_ told ne that inasmuch as the car was pragtioally ready for dolivory as it soomed, 
and that you had told him that you were anzious to have the oar and that he was 
authorisod by you to arrange with mo for the dolivory of the car and for the 
payment for it“and that you wore roady to pay the sum of:3000.00 at once. 
and ‘upon dolivery of the oar the balance or $3500.00, 

He invited: me to onli at your office te ‘olone ne tranoaotion ard I did 006 
You asked me how much monoy was wantod “and I told you $2090.00 and tho balance 
of the paynont for the oar or $4500;00— thirty days after the car was dolivorod, ; 

To this you agreed, but you otipulated. that you should have the ex iiiatva 

dentnotl < “£ tho oar and all othors like it or of a oinilar charactor in tho oity 
of Now York aml Westchester count ty for a long poriod of tino, ; 

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Your Ly Maher said tuonty five years, 
This phase of tho mattor had , nover before ’ boon mebtioned cithor by y 
or your engincor or nysolf or any othor porson in any form whatever , as far as Tt 
knows I.asked you why you wanted such an: arrangement , and you said to onable you 
to make a profit by golling to othor ronds, I thon told you of my rolation with Mr 
Edison and that Lefora any such an arrangement could be made 1t was noooscary for 
ma to oonault hin. You did nost of the teling and aa I rocall tho burden of your 
ronarks was to the offoct that lr Edison was a fakor and not to bo trusted and othor 
unpleasant romarks of like character, explanatory , probably , of your suggestion 
of your individual control of tho car. 
I thon loft your offices in oom any with If Mahor, Mr Robinson and iy Mullaney ard 
vent into the offico of iy Nahor where the four of us discussed a possible pian 
whoroby such a control as you dosired could be given you, but without arriving at 
any dof }inito plan. Your position ap receivor, aco rding to your attoyfengy.itr ; 
Robinson , prevented you from ontoring into suoh an arrangonent, Ne suggested 
that a corporation be fo:ned the stook of which you should hold individually, and & 
with that corporation no contract should bo dram giving it for a reasonable 
consideration the control you asl:od for. He oonculted on this with another attopriy 
in ny prosenoe and ropeatod such opinion, The day after tho -conversation above 
roforod to , your Lip Mullaney and Mir Robinson mot said attodrniy and myoelf in 
My Nobincon's office down town and then and thoro tried for somo tine to irrive 
at a plan that would seen to meot your desiros, In this they did not succoed , but 
at Yr Robinson's request it was left for the other attf¢urngy to malo Q propontal, 
tho undor:tanding boing that it should be diacussed and somo cort of workable plan 
arrived at. Tho day following your Mx Moahor vrote a Jotter in which wac statod that - 
you did not care to do business with me, or words to that effect, I have not the 
letter before me and so om unable to quoto it, . 
On tho day following this I called up your Ey Maher with tho’ idea, which I 
oxprocsed to hin over the tolephone, of advising hin and did adviso hin that this 
. propoval from the attobnoy I refor to was as above stated » io for the purpose of 

dovoloping a workable plan. 


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Tho Statenont that you did not care business with me was onough to end 
any relations which might theretofor havo oxistod botwoen us , ; ; 
The noxt day , or if not , shortly thoredfter Mr Mullaney was , 40 my Surprise, 
at the Edison vorke and accompanied mo and oome frionds of nino to New York. 
Uy friends loft ne at 42nd st but ir PEneLey renainod with mo to 92 nd Bbe 
- At the Loot of the stairs to tho L road on 72 st and Columbus Ave. he said to 
ne that a mistake was nade in getting layers into the nogotiations and that ho ’ 
personally ,would make a proposition . I told him that it would be ontertainod 
but he nover mado any: j instead a fow dayo lator Eullanoy called on lr Edison 
and in ny prosonce requested hin to sell to your company battorics for use in 
ctroet oars, lr Edison, after stipulating for a profit to be paid on tho oars 
irrospeotive of tho battorios did agree to this, bet stated tho curs on which such | 
batterion wore to be used should be senate under my suporvision, 
Your atatemont in tho first paragraph of the socond page of your licttor is Paulfy 
in that you do not otate what the torno voro that wo discussed. Your implication 
that i4 woo fortunate that you had your people ‘procont ad witneoses in uncalled 
Your statomont that the spooifio terns of cale wore {2000.00 down on signing 
contract and balance on delivory of car is inasourato, but it ia truo that you 
did agree to pay down $2990.00 and tho balance 30 days after tho dolivery of the car, 
Your lotter clearly shows a faulty memory . In clauce 2 in tho latonr portion of 
it you say that you wore to havo sixty days 4n which to try out the oor , andin 
tho fore part of tho cand clause you say that you were to pay for the car on 
delivory, Both could not be tuo. : 
Now as’to the solleotion ‘of the amount due to y your company, ‘Paynont for that 
4s ready, but tho largost item on your bill, whioh I havo just rocetved in dotail, 
is a charge for $250,00 for engineers aorvicos, Thic will not be paid or evon 
sorlously considered, Your enginoor was nover asked to do anything in the 
construction or doveloponont of thio oar in any manner whatover oxcont to havo 
it painted , which he offorod » and to send over to the shop a few omall , ond I 

think » standard parte such ac bello, foro registers ete, tho ‘one oxception to this 



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. was the making by your company of two forged draw heads, 

I eam now roturning to you the fare rogister and when it is rocoived by you 
kindly oredit tho samo on your bill and you will be sont the amount due , but 
under no circumstancos, will payment bo made for engineers services which were 
nevr had or as!:ed for, 

Now as to your dealing with me. 

I desire to say that if you desire to une this battery oar oui must doal with 
mo, The SMEMAYH right to oonstruot a car on the lines and embodying the 
mechanical contrivences used in this car is exclusive and thoy are fully 
protected by rights that are indisputable. I have no absolute control of lr 
Rdison's battery and nevor claimed to have such a right, on the contrary I told 
you I did not havo such control. The car and its many features that go to make 
it a successful thing are in one control. 

without the divided axle, so far as we now undorstand the art, it is 
impossible to socure a sufficiently high ecomomy of ourrent in a street car 
to pormit the use of any battery, Again the mothod of commitation is so highly 
advantageous that any railway operator would be justly subject to sdvoerse : 
criticism who did not use it. , 

. I personally regret , for your sake, that you poupelled to deal 
with me in case you desire to use this kind of a car but such is the case. 

I oan assure you that I shall , at all times do my best to meet the recoiver 
of the Third Ave Ry Co in a spirit of fairness and to deal equitably with hin ; 
and the interests he represents, to whom I believe this car is at present known 
and the subject of serious consideration. 

As to the amount of money in possession of tho indef finite persons refered to 
in your letter, I heve no knowlodge. There are deffinite persons favorably 
impressed with the car outside of the receiver of the Third Avo Ry, who have 
demonstrated their complete finanoial independences 

Mr Whitridge , you aro the Saasaven of the Third Ave Ry,an important railway 
system. You have given much satisfaction .to its owners and I believe you will 
continuo so to do, People dealing with you are dealing with them and they so 
deal in the belief that you are capable -of performing and. will perform , with 


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tho etaeie idoa of doing for creditors , bondholders and: stockholders » all - 
that lios within your power and that your individunafity and porsonalfity 
are not , at any time , a consideration when thoir interests aro concerned, ' 
The individuality of the sae jhould Tikowise bo negligible, 
I wish you would think thas nattor over calmly and let us try and meet as 
reasonable mone 
You scom to overlook the fact thet in undertaking this impordant, vorlk 
Mr Edison and I wero not trying to make ono or a dozen cara to sell to some ono 
for the little profit there might be in it, but to actually aduance the art, 
and it now looks as though we had‘ succeeded , 
In do'ng this tho public is benofitted and as to tho profit 
wall , I suppose, like most pioneers some other fellow will get that. 
I hope that youwill , as a broad mindod man that I believe you to be, look 
at the real inportanoe of this undertaking and not at somo small part of it 
or listen to small talk from or by irrisponsable people whose ambitions 
‘ro liable ‘in misslead both you ani then. 
Very respectfully 

Oopy to My Edison 
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My dear Sir Edison: ri carat Ke Ta Keeruhd, 
In reply to your favor of the 6th jnstent; nelosed 
les ee oe Lede. a pec hapetereaats 

will please find detailed report of os epfornance of the car ey. 
the days from the 2nd to the 6th of this month, both ine t 

eelculation showing the WH Consumption at bus-ber I°* 

self, based on the efficiency of the battery at 62} ES 1d this be- 

cause the srrengemont for charging was nee eS ip Yoo Te oe 
for us to get ey accurate records. The “to he roodeaep 4 pase 
e tf 

We had in a Thompson Recording sehen ioe were 
each trip. We also had in a Voltmeter and an Ammeter to tom 
also a recording Ammeter, They all check up. There is no doubt but 
that the recording watt hour meter result is accurate. Our mileage is 
correct. Our time is correct. The weight I am compelled to estimate, 
I think the weight ig correct, or nearly so. Of course it is constant- 
ly verying; sometimes the car would contain 50 people, md sometimes as 
low as ten, and I have secn it as low as four, but think it fair to say 
that the average total weight was about seven tons. 

The track conditions are extremely bed; they are bad in 
this respect: the track is very dirty. Thot is the track is made 
so by the general street traffic, md there are not enough cars pess- 
ing over it to keep it clean. I notice there is e great deal of dirt, 
or if the weather is wet, of mud, vhich forms a sort of film over the 

surface of the track at all times, whereas on Broadway and other streets 


where the car traffic is more frequent, the track surface is comparative-~ 
ly clean. This is of course agoinst us. Also we have 49 curves in 
the 4.77 miles. In 36 of these curves the cer enters the curve end 
stops on an up-grede. This is also against us. The method of hendl- 
ing the car by the motormen is just exactly as the trolley cars are 
handled. The tendency is to run on the third step, end in spite of 
all we can do to keep them on the first and second step. I have no 
doubt but that es time goes on we will greduelly get the motormen to 
realize the importance of sterting more slowly. This ought to help 
us on current consumption. 

If you will note the enclosed performance record you will 
see that during the first four days run the current consumption per 
ton mile and car mile is considerably greater than the lest day. 
I was very much worried over the low mileage thet we got, and watched 
the car closely. I noticed the break shoes were wearing more than 
they should, but could not at first locate any structural defect. On 
the night of the 5th however I mede a very careful examination of the 
break rigging, ona found that in between the spring, which releases the 
break and the bresk shoe itself, thore was an accumulatéon of dirt, which 
foreed the shoe out from the spring end up egainst the wheel, so that 
the break shoe was really kept touching the wheel all. the time. My 
attention was attracted to this by the sluggish action of the car. As 
soon as I discovered it, I took off the break shoe: springs, depending 
upon gravity for release, end the immediate results was an increase in 
mileage per charge, and decrease in current consumption per car and 
ton mile. The car responded well and we got good acceleration on the 
first and second step of the controller, whereas before removing these 

springs, we could not eccelerate on the first, and not very well on 


the second step. It seems a foolish thing not to heve observed this 
before. You will perheps not recall the preak Shoe rigging; the act- 
ion of the shoe moving back and forward is not wnlike thet of the jaws 
of a Blake Rock Crusher jaws. The onening was widest at the top, and 
as little particles of dirt amd mud would fall into this opening, and 
the movement of the shoe, back and forth, would gradually work the dirt 
ana mud down into of the wedge shaped opening end pack it. We found 

it packed so very tight thet it was like cement. 

The record which I enclose was made by an independent engineer 
in the employ of the 28th & 29th Street Line, a ir O'Gorman, whom I do 
not know, but he scems to be a very intelligent engineer. treet care 
wos token to get accurate records, and I believe they are accurate. 

I think it is fair to form your opinion of the porformance 
of the car from the run of the 6th, because it was really the first time 
the car wes run under what you could call fair conditions, so far as 
the break is concerned. Assuming the cars condition on the 6th to be 
its normal condition, the watt consumption per ton mile would be 75.7. 

I think you are perfectly correct in assuming thet we are 
very faulty in the motor design. I an quite sure that we are still 
very faulty, md I look confidently to getting a very much more effi- 
cient motor, not that the motor itself will be efficient, “but that 
we will get a better avorage officiency by rearranging the voltage of 
the motor. I have three different firms at work on it now. 

I note vhat you say about lighting, sand will abide by it. 

I would be very glad to use the AS battery if you think it 
possible to do so, as it helps me out with more room in the car. Billie 
Bee seems to think it is the real thing. If you would like to give 
it a test on heavy work, we will tako out the A4 end put in a set of 

A8 end give them ec test. To do this I would necd 100 cells. I can 


arrange this any time you vrish. 

Yesterday we had our first accident that amounted to anything, 
We broke an axle. You will recall thet I wrote you that we bent both 
axles vhile we hed the car on the Belt Line. One of them was bent out 
of allignment about 5/4", The bend was right at the hub of the wheel, 
Ve straightened this axle cold, and put it into service again, Yester- 
day morming about ten o'clock, at the corner of Seventh Avenue and 
29th Street, it parted, st the same point, at the hub. It was a sheer 
break, The break appears to be highly erystalized. Whether there was 
a fracture in the axle I cannot tell; whether the diameter of tho axle 
is too light, I do not kmow, but think possibly it is. It is 2-3/4" 
in diameter. I am having a new set made of 3-1/4". I expect to get 
them in by Saturday. I think perhaps I had in a steel too high in 
carbon, end am now putting in a Lower carbon steel, made by the Taylor 
Iron Works. 

In a general way the railroad people are very much pleased 
with the car. t has appeared in the mein to be very satisfactory. 
fll of the men about the place like it. I+ hendles well, end on the 
vhdle I think we are safe in Saying that the car is commercially suc~ 

Of course there are a number of little things about it that 
are not quite satisfactory; one of them is the noise in the body. 
I have not succeeded yet in finding out exactly what makes this noise, 
It may be the doomed Sheped roof. I think this is the trouble. Also 
the springs are a little too stiff’. I eam putting in soft®énes, 
The stiff springs mekes the body vibrate. The noise is not particularly 
objectionable, but it is more noisy thm other cars, ; 

The car has been taking in about $20.00 per day, as against 
$4.00 per day for the horse cars. 



I em receiving a great many inquiries from contractors and 
mining Senta who want a small lovomotive. What would you think of 
developing a small locomotive for hauling say ten to twelve little 
cars, carrying ebout.e yard of dirt each? The total distance would not 
in any case exceed a haul of one mile, and we could take a truck and 
put on four motors, getting e good tractive effort, md it would not 
cost very much to try it out. I do not see eny reason why we should 
not do it, md if you think it a good idea, I will go ahead on the 
scheme. There would be quite a wide use for such a locomotive; es- 
pecially with the contractors. The particular case in point is up on 
the Ashakon Dam; thoy are compelled to move their track every week 
or so, nd thst prevents their putting in a trolley, and a little sto- 
rage battery locomotive would be very convenient for them, They would 
want twelve locomotives. 

Very truly yours, 

(Enels) wel, 


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Menlo, New Jersey .3 - oe oe 
Gentlemen:- i ae 


ye begn great interested in your new 

storage battery and hafe followed the public press on the sub- 
ject, very closely. 

Myself snd associates are contemplating the 
construction of an electric railway in the State of California. 

I will be very pleased to receive any advence 
information or data you can furnish on the storage battery propo- 

sition and especially relative to railroad work. 

Would it be possible to secure the Pacific 

Coast rights for tle use of your battery, provided we could or- 

ganize a company of sufficient capital to handle it? 

I give you as reference the Merchants National 

Banx, Los Angeles, Ocean Park Bank, Sante Mouica, California, Brad- 
street's and Dun's. 

Awaiting your reply, I beg to remain, 


Yours truly; 

a. es 


reteenreceteneee By eee 
cod MAR 2 1 1910 
We have pont this 
told him that we; 


party a cutalogue, and have also 
are-not--in—-a-position to consider the 

agency or selling rights proposition, and will not be 
for at least a vear, 


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Mereh 28, 1910. 

ur F.L.Dyer, 
Vice-rresident, Edison Storese Battery Compmy, 
Orense, NJ. 
Dear Sir: 

Regarding the small locomotives; I am heving a number 
of inquiries for smell Locomotives, equipped with Edison Batter- 
ies. Technically the detsil of these Locomotives is almost the 
same exactly as the street car. ‘Je would use the same truck as 
in the strect car, except that it would be modified slightly to 
meet the varying conditions. I cen very reodily work out & loco 
motive thet vould do the trick, and I think we really ought to do 
it. A case in point now is for the contractors at Ashokan Dam. 
They went tvo locomotives. A Mc Hinsley is the perty in question, 
He desires tro Locomotives to heul 500 tons of dirt per day of ten 
hours. This would require about 40 A-8 cells, with a car which would 
be built on practically the same lines es the truck in the present 
street car. A pletform would be placed on top of the truck, to carry 
the betteries with a seat for the motorman. We would use tho same 
method of drive thet we have developed for the strect cer, and in 
general the details would be the same as though the device wes to 
be used ine strect car. 

I cen do this ell right if it is egreeable. 

Yours very truly, 



March 28, 1910. 

vr POT.Dyer, 
Vice-President, Edison Storage Bettery Company, 

Orange, iid, 
my dear iir Dyer; 

In reply to your fevor of the 23rd instent in reeerd to 
foreign busincss; it secms to me thet if we send over to Bergmann 
at Berlin just the inquiries as received, that he will find it 
extremely difficult to handle them, owing to the feet thet he 
cannot Imo the details of these cers. 

Nov the facet is that the success we are enjoying with 
the battery on this car is due to two things; first ,thet. we 
have m excellent battery; second, the economical use of current 
by the car, 

It is possible thet you do not Imow that this ear really 
takes, for driving, only about one-third the current required to 
drive an ordinary car of the sane seating capacity. lir Bergmann's 
engineers will naturally doubt this statement, but it is a fact 
just the same, end it seems to me the Tight way to go about this 
proposition is for either cr Bergmann, or one of his engineers, 
to inform themselves on this subject. 

in regerd to the patent situation, application for these 
patents were made long before the publication. of press notices 
took place regarding the car, and I em advised by Mr ‘Small and 
tir Smith thet we ere protected under the International Treaty for 

sufficient time to meke aur applications in other countries, which 


we are getting ready to do, 

Of course we will be very glad to make some equitable 
arrangement with Mir Beremenn for use of these devices in any terri- 
tory he wants. 

If yon esre to heve ie do so, I will glodly send over 
to lr Bergmann full details as to the construction of the car and 
full date as to its operation, ond will take wp, either through 
you or directly with him, the matter of getting him vosted fully. 

Ve have had a number of inquiries; one from New Zealand, 
one from Italy, one from Brence , one from Turkey, one from England 
and several froin Mexico und other central od south ‘mericen 

Yours very truly, 






Merch 28, 1910. 

lir F.L.Dyer, 
Vice-President, Edison Storese Battery Company, 
_, Orange, WJ, 
My dear sir Dyer: 

In reply to your favor of the 26th instant I note vhat 
you say in regard to the use of the curve shoving comparetive 
tests of the A and E type of battery. 

If you will look over the copy of my letter herewith 
addressed to iir Carl P.Schoder, you vill note exactly the form 
in vhich I wish to use the informetion contained in the curve 
as cdvertising date. Of course it would bo necessary to vary the 
wording according to the circumstances, but in a general way I would 
say to proancevine customers that the exverience on the battery is 
that on expiration of so many complete discharges, the battery had 
actually shown the increase in the percentage indicated in the blue 
print. I would not make any reference to the E battery, because 
it would have the effect of confusing the buyer, who Imows nothing 
about it. 

I can see no objection to using the deta in this manner, 
but on the contrary there are many advantages. 

I would cell your attention to a subject vhich ought to 
be taken up at once, it seems to me, as we are now epproaching 
the time when we will begin to sell cars. Some sort of guarantee 
should be provided; I heve talked the matter over with lr Dodge 
end he is of the same opinion. iI do not mean to sugesest that the 

works should make en wnqualified guarantee, But it doos seem 

to me as though the Compeny should make 2 reasonable puarantee 
as to the Life of the battery, qualified of course by the ro- 
quirenent that the instructions for use of the battery are strictly 
adhered to. 

I imow of iir Edison's objections, and they ere very 
good objections. at the saxe time you can hardly expect large 
users to spend lerse sums of money purely on our word. 

I do not see how eny unfair risks woulfd be teken by the 
Yorks in offering to its customers a fair gsuerantee, end one which 
they know absolutely they can meet, provided of course the battery 
receives at oll times proper care and opere tion. 

The worst thing thet could oceur would be that the cus- 
tomer would claim thet his battery would not do the work. Our 
position then vould naturelly be that he hed not followed instruct- 
ions. It woul’ then be incumbent upon him to show thet he had 
followed instructions, end this vould be an extremely difficult 
thing for him to show, if the battery had feiled. I meke this 
sugsestion because it is the bad thing that we will necessarily 
have to meet some day. 

I cannot see how it woulda be nossible for the user of 
the battery not to get the good results which we are ell getting, 
provided he aid follow instructions; therefore the risk in making 

such a guarantee along these lines, would be extremely small. 

On the other hand it vould give us great advantage in 

Yours very truly, : “ . 

the market. 






March 28, 1910. 

Nir Carl I.Schader, 
Suite 500, Currier Bldg., 

Dear Sir; 

Your favor of the 14th instant addressed to the 
Edison Company, Menlo, N.J., has been referred to the writer 
for reply, in vhich ploerse note that I refer only to cars for 
street railway or interurban service. “y connection with the 
Edison Storego Bettary Company is effective only insofar as 
the Battery is applied to street cars. 

Regsrding the sale of theso cars in your territory, 
we ore not yot in position to meke agency arrangemonts, but 
would be pleased to furnish you cars, ond vil] cheerfully fumish 
you with such data ag will eneble you to form an opinion es to 
this method of car propulsion, as compared with other methods, 

You will, find enclosed two reprints, which pives a fair 
description of the 26-passenger ear. This cer is now in aeily 
operation on the 28th & 29th Street Crosstovn Thine in this city. 
The cer is in service in a very congosted district, end under 
extremoly unfevoreble traffic conditions. It mrkes regularly 
62 miles per day, or per charge of battery, over a track in which 
there ore 46 curves, and a Soustently varying grade up to 2-1/2%. 
The car averages about eight stops per mile. In such car perfor- 
mance the current consumption at bus ber is 853 watt hours per 
car mile. 

In tho operation of this car we have mot with no diffi- 



culties whatever, cither in structural dosign or principle of pro- 
pulsion, ond while the car is light, as it necossarily must bo 

to oporate economically with storage bettories, no dofects of any 
kind have devolopod, 

The car accelorates readily, at the rate of about one 
mile per hour per second, vhich is the usual rete of. acceleration 
in all strect cars. 

Wo foel thet we cre warranted in stating thet the prob- 
lem of driving street od intorurben cars vith storage batteries 
has boon solved. 

The question of durability of the battery will naturolly 
arise in your mind; inasmuch as the battery has not beon in con- 
mercial operation for a great number of yeers, we connot advise 
you definitely on this point. Wo do Imow, however, from actual 
experience with the battory in commercial service, thet ot the exe 
piration of 30,000 miles the battery in this car will hevoe inereas- 
ed in capacity about 11%. From actual oxperionce with the battery 
wo emnot state whet its performance will be beyond tho 50,000 miles 
mentioned, but from various tests ond demonstrations that heve boen 
made to determine the 14% of the battery, it is the opinion of the 
Factory engineers ed Mr Edison that the bottery will lest a num 
bor of years; probably ten to fifteon years. . 

However, owing to the fect that the positive life of the 

battery is unknown, we recommend to our customers to arbitrerily 
charge off 15% per mnum from the original price of the battery, 
(which in this case is $13.50 por cell or $2835.00 per set). The 
fund thus reserved you vould naturally retein as no sinking fund : 

for the purchase of new batteries, in tho event of their feilure 



at the end of seven or oight yoars of service, a condition, how- 
ever, not likely to orise. ‘This inflicts no cspecial burden on 
reilwoy earnings, bocause a similar or much larger amount would 
have to be expended, from time to time, if the roed was equipped 
vith a trolley system. To put this to you more graphically; 

the sinking fund thus provided, vhero battery cars aro used, vould 
amount to $ (1-1/2 mills) per car mile, whereas the State 
of Messachussotts reports, for example, that tho avorage oxpense 
of eae maintaining the overhead trolley lines, on all 
electric roads in that state, omounts to $ (3-5/10 cents) 
por car mile. ‘Tho latter itom of course yuries considerably, but 
is as authentic and cheracteristia, for comparison, as cowld be 

The advantages in service of the storege bettory car 
are obvious; there is ono edventage, however, vhich may not appoar 
to you upon first consideration, md thet is the lessenod cost of 
pover production. By use of these cars you got a vory much highor 
power factor on your operation. It is extremoly difficult to get 
better them e 50% power fector with trolloy cars; with buttery 
cars on a system properly meneged, you should get at least a 90% 
power factor. That is your horse power would be reduced, eppro- 
ximetoly of course, by one-helf, md the power cost considerably 
reduced due to the high power factor of a system operating the 
storage bettery cars. 

It would be well, if you contemplate construction of a 
road, to let us have a plan of the system; e rough sketch will 
ansywor the purpose, and we should imow the miloage, schedule and 
maxinum spood requiremomts, number of cars, grades and longth of 

Bane. curvos. number of stops por mile, passenger cepocity of cars, 



end Location of power plant. 
Upon receipt of this information we will very cheerfully 
work out a definite proposition for you. 

Yours very truly, 
(Sed) R.H.Beach,. 



pote, = ; 

April 5, 1920. 

R. iH. Beach, Usq., 
10 Fifth Ave. , 
How Youl:. 
Deer liv. Beach: 

Yours of the 26th ult. has peen reeeived in rovor- 
onee to Loroign business. Under the International Convention 
you have, es I rem her, one year from the dete of the Tiline jn 
ris cowitry in which to file avnlicetions ebrond. t tiuinic 
however, thet ve will have dilliorwlty in obtadiaai: ° netonts in 
Gormany, because the Cexion vatent offiec iS oxtromely illiberel, 
but of course there would ve no harn in trying. 

In view ef tho inquiries you here reccived, it might be 
well to apply for ptente in Groat Britain, Frenec, Belgiun, 
Gormany and possibly Austrie, but I would hardly advice you to go 
outside of these countries, ond as it is, the syplications would 
bo filed puroly as a speculation, wath tho chanees very much against 
your making anything out of the patents. 

Regerding Mr. Borgmenn, I wish you would let mo havo 
full deta concorning the car so thet I can write him end put him 
thoroughly in touch with the situetion. ALL of those Loroign 
inquiries cen thon bo turnod over to him, ond if ho thinks the 
matter is important enoush he might actually mako a dononstrating 
car. lio one is better oquippod than he to do this. of course, 
in turning this matter over to hin it would be with tho under- 

atanding thet as soon as popsible some fair arrangenont should be 

mado under which the proposition could be handlod by luim. T 
telko it for granted thet ho would bo willing to tals up the matter, 

although, of course, ho migitt not be. 

Yours very truly, 

BLD/Le Vico~"residont. 

April 5, 1910. 

ir. R. H. Boach, 
16 Bifth Ave., 
New York. 
Doar ir. Beach: 
Yours of the ROth vit. has been received in refor- 
enco to the curve ch